Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

[Mike B]

Hi Merv,

I would appreciate it, as well as many others, if you could throw my 2 
questions at them.  I can tab, arrow & whatever else in the setting a 
schedule option, but I can't seem to get any other option checked besides 
the, Quick scan.  I'm totally blind so, I can only go by what Jaws is 
reporting as checked, but in all actuality, Full or Custom, could be 
checked.  I haven't tried using the touch cursor keystrokes as of yet, but 
I'll have to give them a try.  I know it's been said that touch cursor 
keystrokes are normal Jaws navigation keystrokes, but, the touch cursor 
keystrokes report differently as touch cursor keystrokes, than they do  in 
normal Jaws mode, well at least in my brief experimentation with them.

As far as the quarantine issue, that needs a lot of help, compared to Vipre 
2014, ah hell, so does the scheduling option!.  I'm real close to going back 
to Vipre 2014!
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T 
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: Merv Keck
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS


I need to call them yet again tomorrow. I have a case open with them via
phone and also via email. They recently updated their support page along
with their viper 2016 application. Unfortunately the written instruction are
not exactly screen reader friendly. I had already planned to call them
tomorrow about another issue. I will ask them about this one if I can. If
you look at the support instructions you will see that it advises you to
look for a pencil and click on it to schedule a scan. I really like viper
2016 Internet Security and I am concerned that it has been losing
accessibility with Jaws and other screen readers. I would hate to see it go
the same way as applications such as bit defender. When I had sight I loved
that program. However, it moved to the cloud right about the time my vision
dropped below the point where I could use programs that were largely cloud
dependent such as Adobe and Bit Defender. I still miss Audition. If we can
keep viper accessible I'm willing to go the extra mile to help make that
possible.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

Imost settings are default, setting up a schredule scan not sure I don't use
it.  I think vipre sets one up for you, because every now and then jaws will
announce vipre has started a scan, we're just letting you know vipre is
protecting you!  so you really don't need to change settings, I just
installed mine and forgot it.
in other words vipre has become a install it and forget it.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 12:14 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

Hi JAWS & Fellow Vipre Users,

I just updated to the 2016 version a week or so ago, & I'm trying to get
used to the new interface.  2 questions.
1. I can't seem to get the hang of scheduling a scan, would y'all please
give me some steps to follow?
2. If Vipre quarantines something, how do I tell Vipre 2016 that I want to
allow it?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro & Jaws 15 thru 17 latest.  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck
To: blindt...@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.


No I just checked and there have been a couple of little changes since the
last time I spoke with them. It says progress bar for me. Usually my systems
scans are on a schedule so I didn't notice. If I scan a file or folder
intentionally I check in antivirus history to see the result.

-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:43 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Merv, do you find that you need to use the JAWS cursor a lot?
if you run a scan on a drive, can you monitor it's progress and results once
the scan is  finished?
if something suspicious is detected, how can it be dealt with?

--- Original Message 
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 10:22:14 AM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hi,
I have called and spoken with them down here in Clearwater, Florida. They
are not far from Freedom Scientific and their tech support people for the
most part are very aware of screen readers and how to give support to the
visually impaired. Two of their techs have informed me that the only major
benefit of viper 2016 Pro is that because it is largely cloud based it is
faster 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

[Mike B]

Hi Kevin,

If you're hearing that Vipre has just started a scan, that is because you 
installed it & forgot about it!  Well, I like to have a little more 
knowledge & control about what Vipre might find as Malware or whatever else, 
& I don't want little programs quarantined / removed that I use on a regular 
basis being quarantined / removed without me knowing about it.  &, if they 
are quarantined, I would like to know how to tell Vipre to allow them.  I 
can navigate Vipre 2016, okay, but I just can't quite wrap my head around 
setting up a scheduled scan , or getting quarantined items out of 
quarantine.  I know we all have different ways of operating our own 
computers, but please don't tell me I should just use the default settings 
because you are doing that.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T 
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS


Imost settings are default, setting up a schredule scan not sure I don't use
it.  I think vipre sets one up for you, because every now and then jaws will
announce vipre has started a scan, we're just letting you know vipre is
protecting you!  so you really don't need to change settings, I just
installed mine and forgot it.
in other words vipre has become a install it and forget it.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 12:14 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

Hi JAWS & Fellow Vipre Users,

I just updated to the 2016 version a week or so ago, & I'm trying to get
used to the new interface.  2 questions.
1. I can't seem to get the hang of scheduling a scan, would y'all please
give me some steps to follow?
2. If Vipre quarantines something, how do I tell Vipre 2016 that I want to
allow it?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro & Jaws 15 thru 17 latest.  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: Merv Keck
To: blindt...@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.


No I just checked and there have been a couple of little changes since the
last time I spoke with them. It says progress bar for me. Usually my systems
scans are on a schedule so I didn't notice. If I scan a file or folder
intentionally I check in antivirus history to see the result.

-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:43 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Merv, do you find that you need to use the JAWS cursor a lot?
if you run a scan on a drive, can you monitor it's progress and results once
the scan is  finished?
if something suspicious is detected, how can it be dealt with?

--- Original Message 
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 10:22:14 AM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hi,
I have called and spoken with them down here in Clearwater, Florida. They
are not far from Freedom Scientific and their tech support people for the
most part are very aware of screen readers and how to give support to the
visually impaired. Two of their techs have informed me that the only major
benefit of viper 2016 Pro is that because it is largely cloud based it is
faster and leaves less of a footprint on your local machine both in space
and in resources. They said this will benefit older and slower machines.
However if you are running a jam-packed system with plenty of RAM and plenty
of HD you won't notice much of a difference if any. I called them because I
had received a coupon to upgrade and I was concerned because before when I
had other antivirus suites that moved to the cloud they became unusable. I
was assured by two techs that this was not going to be an issue that the
program itself was not going cloud based like other programs for other
companies have done.
I use Vipre Internet Security 2016 and I have had no issues with
accessibility. Although last night I did go to the support page online to
see how to do something and when I got to step nine it said something like
look at this picture and configure your computer like the picture in this
box. I'm thinking ok who thought that one up? Laughs!
I plan to call them Monday and discuss that one with them even though I
fixed the issue without the picture in the box.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:05 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Chris, what version is it, 2016, 2017 or Pro? I think Pro is cloud based and
it applies only for Internet Security for now, that's 

[JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Ron Kolesar]

For my fellow JAWS users. 
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games. 
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code. 
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge. 
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page 
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge. 
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security 
capture screen. 
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info to 
me. 
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17. 
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us? 
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages. 
Very Thankfully Yours, 
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind Pilot.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

[Kevin]

Imost settings are default, setting up a schredule scan not sure I don't use 
it.  I think vipre sets one up for you, because every now and then jaws will 
announce vipre has started a scan, we're just letting you know vipre is 
protecting you!  so you really don't need to change settings, I just 
installed mine and forgot it.

in other words vipre has become a install it and forget it.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 12:14 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

Hi JAWS & Fellow Vipre Users,

I just updated to the 2016 version a week or so ago, & I'm trying to get
used to the new interface.  2 questions.
1. I can't seem to get the hang of scheduling a scan, would y'all please
give me some steps to follow?
2. If Vipre quarantines something, how do I tell Vipre 2016 that I want to
allow it?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro & Jaws 15 thru 17 latest.  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: Merv Keck

To: blindt...@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.


No I just checked and there have been a couple of little changes since the
last time I spoke with them. It says progress bar for me. Usually my systems
scans are on a schedule so I didn't notice. If I scan a file or folder
intentionally I check in antivirus history to see the result.

-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:43 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Merv, do you find that you need to use the JAWS cursor a lot?
if you run a scan on a drive, can you monitor it's progress and results once
the scan is  finished?
if something suspicious is detected, how can it be dealt with?

--- Original Message 
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 10:22:14 AM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hi,
I have called and spoken with them down here in Clearwater, Florida. They
are not far from Freedom Scientific and their tech support people for the
most part are very aware of screen readers and how to give support to the
visually impaired. Two of their techs have informed me that the only major
benefit of viper 2016 Pro is that because it is largely cloud based it is
faster and leaves less of a footprint on your local machine both in space
and in resources. They said this will benefit older and slower machines.
However if you are running a jam-packed system with plenty of RAM and plenty
of HD you won't notice much of a difference if any. I called them because I
had received a coupon to upgrade and I was concerned because before when I
had other antivirus suites that moved to the cloud they became unusable. I
was assured by two techs that this was not going to be an issue that the
program itself was not going cloud based like other programs for other
companies have done.
I use Vipre Internet Security 2016 and I have had no issues with
accessibility. Although last night I did go to the support page online to
see how to do something and when I got to step nine it said something like
look at this picture and configure your computer like the picture in this
box. I'm thinking ok who thought that one up? Laughs!
I plan to call them Monday and discuss that one with them even though I
fixed the issue without the picture in the box.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:05 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Chris, what version is it, 2016, 2017 or Pro? I think Pro is cloud based and
it applies only for Internet Security for now, that's why I ask.
also if you could, give the exact version number.

--- Original Message 
From: Chris Judd
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 11:48:46 PM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hey all,
I just updated to the new viper that just came out, and for the most part,
it is accessible with jaws.  It is a new layout, but it is easy to manage,
once you get the hang of it.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Thanks,
Chris



















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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 17.0.1806

[Merv Keck]

Usually in the touch cursor I only do what I need to do and get out. I haven't 
done much more than necessary. I simply meant that I would experiment with the 
other reading commands when not in the PC cursor and see what the advantage may 
be.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of TheHangMan
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 2:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Hi,
I'm not being argumentative, but those are jaws basic reading commands,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Merv Keck
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 1:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Thanks Mike. There were one or two of those I haven't played with yet. I will 
practice them for kicks.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Hi Jim & Merv,

Since someone will ask, what are the Touch Cursor keystrokes?, Well here you
go:

table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end

Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T H 
E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws
17.0.1806


The touch cursor is how I have been doing it for months. I also use the touch 
cursor with several other applications when the PC cursor does not give me 
sufficient feedback. Since I have been teaching this method for months I will 
go ahead and answer the question someone will ask eventually. 
No you do not need a touch screen to use the touch cursor. Laughs!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 with Jaws
17.0.1806

Hi Jaws Users group.
I have just figured out how to get Jaws 17.0.1806, to read the status of our
w-10 updates.
Just do the following:
1. Press Windows key+I, for the settings area of w-10.
2. Press the Right arrow key or press the End key to, Update and security, 
press enter.
Now the sub category, windows update is already selected for you.
3. Tab one time to, Check for updates, don’t do anything.
4. Press Shift+PC cursor, to activate the Touch cursor in Jaws.
5. Press the left arrow key one time, Jaws 17 should say, your computer is up 
to date, last checked, bla bla bla.
6. Press the PC cursor twice, that is Num-pad plus twice, to go back to the 
regular PC cursor for Jaws 17.
7. Press ALT+f4 to close the settings area in w-10.
I hope this explains checking the status of your w-10 updates using Jaws 
17.0.1806, clearly enough for you.
Eric, from Freedom Scientific,  has already said that they will fix this small 
issue in an upcoming future update to Jaws 17.
So, thanks Eric.
In the mean time you can use the above steps to check the status of your
w-10 Windows updates.
Thanks and I hope everyone has a nice weekend...

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
Jim
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[JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

[Mike B]

Hi JAWS & Fellow Vipre Users,

I just updated to the 2016 version a week or so ago, & I'm trying to get 
used to the new interface.  2 questions.
1. I can't seem to get the hang of scheduling a scan, would y'all please 
give me some steps to follow?
2. If Vipre quarantines something, how do I tell Vipre 2016 that I want to 
allow it?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro & Jaws 15 thru 17 latest.  All help will be 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T 
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: Merv Keck
To: blindt...@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.


No I just checked and there have been a couple of little changes since the
last time I spoke with them. It says progress bar for me. Usually my systems
scans are on a schedule so I didn't notice. If I scan a file or folder
intentionally I check in antivirus history to see the result.

-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:43 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Merv, do you find that you need to use the JAWS cursor a lot?
if you run a scan on a drive, can you monitor it's progress and results once
the scan is  finished?
if something suspicious is detected, how can it be dealt with?

--- Original Message 
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 10:22:14 AM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hi,
I have called and spoken with them down here in Clearwater, Florida. They
are not far from Freedom Scientific and their tech support people for the
most part are very aware of screen readers and how to give support to the
visually impaired. Two of their techs have informed me that the only major
benefit of viper 2016 Pro is that because it is largely cloud based it is
faster and leaves less of a footprint on your local machine both in space
and in resources. They said this will benefit older and slower machines.
However if you are running a jam-packed system with plenty of RAM and plenty
of HD you won't notice much of a difference if any. I called them because I
had received a coupon to upgrade and I was concerned because before when I
had other antivirus suites that moved to the cloud they became unusable. I
was assured by two techs that this was not going to be an issue that the
program itself was not going cloud based like other programs for other
companies have done.
I use Vipre Internet Security 2016 and I have had no issues with
accessibility. Although last night I did go to the support page online to
see how to do something and when I got to step nine it said something like
look at this picture and configure your computer like the picture in this
box. I'm thinking ok who thought that one up? Laughs!
I plan to call them Monday and discuss that one with them even though I
fixed the issue without the picture in the box.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:05 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Chris, what version is it, 2016, 2017 or Pro? I think Pro is cloud based and
it applies only for Internet Security for now, that's why I ask.
also if you could, give the exact version number.

--- Original Message 
From: Chris Judd
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 11:48:46 PM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hey all,
I just updated to the new viper that just came out, and for the most part,
it is accessible with jaws.  It is a new layout, but it is easy to manage,
once you get the hang of it.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Thanks,
Chris



















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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10withJaws 17.0.1806

[Jim]

Thanks Mike,




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 11:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10withJaws 
17.0.1806


Hi Jim & Merv,

Since someone will ask, what are the Touch Cursor keystrokes?, Well here you
go:

table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end

Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: Merv Keck

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws
17.0.1806


The touch cursor is how I have been doing it for months. I also use the
touch cursor with several other applications when the PC cursor does not
give me sufficient feedback. Since I have been teaching this method for
months I will go ahead and answer the question someone will ask eventually.
No you do not need a touch screen to use the touch cursor. Laughs!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 with Jaws
17.0.1806

Hi Jaws Users group.
I have just figured out how to get Jaws 17.0.1806, to read the status of our
w-10 updates.
Just do the following:
1. Press Windows key+I, for the settings area of w-10.
2. Press the Right arrow key or press the End key to, Update and security,
press enter.
Now the sub category, windows update is already selected for you.
3. Tab one time to, Check for updates, don’t do anything.
4. Press Shift+PC cursor, to activate the Touch cursor in Jaws.
5. Press the left arrow key one time, Jaws 17 should say, your computer is
up to date, last checked, bla bla bla.
6. Press the PC cursor twice, that is Num-pad plus twice, to go back to the
regular PC cursor for Jaws 17.
7. Press ALT+f4 to close the settings area in w-10.
I hope this explains checking the status of your w-10 updates using Jaws
17.0.1806, clearly enough for you.
Eric, from Freedom Scientific,  has already said that they will fix this
small issue in an upcoming future update to Jaws 17.
So, thanks Eric.
In the mean time you can use the above steps to check the status of your
w-10 Windows updates.
Thanks and I hope everyone has a nice weekend...

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 17.0.1806

[TheHangMan]

Hi,
I'm not being argumentative, but those are jaws basic reading commands,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Merv Keck
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 1:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Thanks Mike. There were one or two of those I haven't played with yet. I will 
practice them for kicks.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Hi Jim & Merv,

Since someone will ask, what are the Touch Cursor keystrokes?, Well here you
go:

table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end

Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T H 
E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws
17.0.1806


The touch cursor is how I have been doing it for months. I also use the touch 
cursor with several other applications when the PC cursor does not give me 
sufficient feedback. Since I have been teaching this method for months I will 
go ahead and answer the question someone will ask eventually. 
No you do not need a touch screen to use the touch cursor. Laughs!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 with Jaws
17.0.1806

Hi Jaws Users group.
I have just figured out how to get Jaws 17.0.1806, to read the status of our
w-10 updates.
Just do the following:
1. Press Windows key+I, for the settings area of w-10.
2. Press the Right arrow key or press the End key to, Update and security, 
press enter.
Now the sub category, windows update is already selected for you.
3. Tab one time to, Check for updates, don’t do anything.
4. Press Shift+PC cursor, to activate the Touch cursor in Jaws.
5. Press the left arrow key one time, Jaws 17 should say, your computer is up 
to date, last checked, bla bla bla.
6. Press the PC cursor twice, that is Num-pad plus twice, to go back to the 
regular PC cursor for Jaws 17.
7. Press ALT+f4 to close the settings area in w-10.
I hope this explains checking the status of your w-10 updates using Jaws 
17.0.1806, clearly enough for you.
Eric, from Freedom Scientific,  has already said that they will fix this small 
issue in an upcoming future update to Jaws 17.
So, thanks Eric.
In the mean time you can use the above steps to check the status of your
w-10 Windows updates.
Thanks and I hope everyone has a nice weekend...

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
Jim
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 17.0.1806

[Merv Keck]

Thanks Mike. There were one or two of those I haven't played with yet. I will 
practice them for kicks.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Hi Jim & Merv,

Since someone will ask, what are the Touch Cursor keystrokes?, Well here you
go:

table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end

Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T H 
E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws
17.0.1806


The touch cursor is how I have been doing it for months. I also use the touch 
cursor with several other applications when the PC cursor does not give me 
sufficient feedback. Since I have been teaching this method for months I will 
go ahead and answer the question someone will ask eventually. 
No you do not need a touch screen to use the touch cursor. Laughs!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 with Jaws
17.0.1806

Hi Jaws Users group.
I have just figured out how to get Jaws 17.0.1806, to read the status of our
w-10 updates.
Just do the following:
1. Press Windows key+I, for the settings area of w-10.
2. Press the Right arrow key or press the End key to, Update and security, 
press enter.
Now the sub category, windows update is already selected for you.
3. Tab one time to, Check for updates, don’t do anything.
4. Press Shift+PC cursor, to activate the Touch cursor in Jaws.
5. Press the left arrow key one time, Jaws 17 should say, your computer is up 
to date, last checked, bla bla bla.
6. Press the PC cursor twice, that is Num-pad plus twice, to go back to the 
regular PC cursor for Jaws 17.
7. Press ALT+f4 to close the settings area in w-10.
I hope this explains checking the status of your w-10 updates using Jaws 
17.0.1806, clearly enough for you.
Eric, from Freedom Scientific,  has already said that they will fix this small 
issue in an upcoming future update to Jaws 17.
So, thanks Eric.
In the mean time you can use the above steps to check the status of your
w-10 Windows updates.
Thanks and I hope everyone has a nice weekend...

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
Jim
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[JAWS-Users] Itunes issue.

[Justin McDevitt]

`~~

Hello listmembers,

 

Earlier today, I created a Playlist within Itunes of specific songs within
my overall music file directory. 

After completing the Playlist and selecting the Songs option, the song list
was presented in alphabetical order based on the title of each track. 

 

To re-order the list, I pressed Control X and then Control-V to place the
track at a specific point within the Playlist. However, unlike the many
other times in which I have utilized this command, the titles were not
re-ordered per my objective. As an Itunes user for the past 5-6 years, what
step am I issing here? 

 

Best,  Justin 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not starting at startup, win10?

[Teresa Arroyo]

I had the same problem with Jaws 14 and wasnt able to solve problem. It 
solved it self when I upgraded to jaws 15.
-Mensaje original- 
From: andy.t

Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 12:00 PM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not starting at startup, win10?

Hello I asked the same question the other day and I have tried every thin I
can think of and jaws will not start when the computer does I even called
tech support and still no luck so if any one has any ideas please let me
know.



Jesus died for us why cant we live for him.
-Original Message- 
From: Adam Morris

Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 1:28 AM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws not starting at startup, win10?

Hi all,
Have changed the subject from prior thread.

Ran the repair which was successful.
Jaws still doesn't start at startup.
Have checked the settings, start for this user is always, Jaws speaks at
the login screen as it signs in.
(I don't have a password for my local account).
Have tried comvinations of checking and unchecking the boxes re startup
with the same result.

The shortcut on the desktop is set to run as admin.
What I find strange but maybe normal is if I go to properties to make
the shortcut key it says I need admin permission and by pressing enter
grants it.

Any other ideas on what I can do to get jaws starting at startup?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17

[Dave Carlson]

Kimmer,

See if you can download "Hot Key Detective" and install. If so, it will tell 
you where all your hotkey assignments are, and connected to which files. 
That might help.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Kimberly" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 07:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17


Only one. In fact I have only one jaws icon period since I deleted the 
shortcuts for 15 and 16 while trying to solve this problem.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>
> How many icons called "JAWS 17" do you have on your desktop?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kimber Gardner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 03:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>
>
> I don't understand what you're saying.
>
> I have cleared the hotkey in the jaws 16 properties dialogue, deleted
> jaws 16 from my desktop, rebooted my machine and set the hotkey in the
> jaws 17 dialogue. Still when I perform the key combo control+alt+J,
> jaws 16 loads instead of jaws 17. I was able to set control+alt+7 as a
> hotkey to load jaws 17, but that doesn't really answer my question of
> why I can't reassign control+alt+j.
>
> I am out of ideas and will be calling FS for help on Monday.
>
> Thanks all for your assistance. I will let the list know what happens.
>
> Kimber
>
>> On 4/9/16, TheHangMan  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I have both jaws activated 16 and 17 in my desktop,
>> Since, I had already set the jaws quick key before on J16, it carried 
>> over
>> to jaws 17.
>> There is no need to set it again.
>> The proof is in the pudding:
>> I shut of J17 and preform the quick key and it came back on.
>> Jorge
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 12:57 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>>
>> Likely there were two desktop icons for JAWS, and one was still active.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 08:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>>
>>
>> What's curious in Kimber's case is that after she's removed j from the
>> JAWS
>>
>> 16 shortcut and confirmed that it's gone, control-alt -j still brings up
>> JAWS 16. I can't figure out why that would be.
>>
>> On creation of the shortcut, which it sounds like Kimber knows what to 
>> do,
>> I'd add a little more. Assuming I'm want alt-control-j for JAWS 17, I'd 
>> do
>> as Mario suggests and type just j in the edit field. Then, instead of
>> pressing enter or tabbing to OK, I escape out of the dialog. For some
>> reason, this has been the surest way I've found for making the shortcut
>> stick.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 10:43 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>>
>> Mario,
>>
>> Yes, that's a good point. That way, the actual application is not 
>> invoked.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mario" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 07:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>>
>>
>> Kimber, in my experience, when you attempt to assign the hotkey using
>> the control+alt keys, just press the letter because control+alt is the
>> assumed modifier Windows believes you want to use plus the letter you
>> type. for example, you want to use control+alt+j as the hotkey to start
>> JAWS, just press the letter j when you get to the field to assign the
>> shortcut.
>>
>> if you want to use a diferent combination, that's when you have to press
>> all the keys you want. for example, you want to use control+shift+j
>> instead, press all three keys to overide the default of control+alt+ the
>> letter of your choice.
>>
>> hth
>>  Original Message 
>> From: Kimber Gardner
>> Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 7:32:17 AM EST
>> To: jaws-users-list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I had control-alt-J assigned as my hotkey for jaws 16, but I wanted to
>> reassign it to jaws 17. I went into 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17

[Kimberly]

Only one. In fact I have only one jaws icon period since I deleted the 
shortcuts for 15 and 16 while trying to solve this problem.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> How many icons called "JAWS 17" do you have on your desktop?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kimber Gardner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 03:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
> 
> 
> I don't understand what you're saying.
> 
> I have cleared the hotkey in the jaws 16 properties dialogue, deleted
> jaws 16 from my desktop, rebooted my machine and set the hotkey in the
> jaws 17 dialogue. Still when I perform the key combo control+alt+J,
> jaws 16 loads instead of jaws 17. I was able to set control+alt+7 as a
> hotkey to load jaws 17, but that doesn't really answer my question of
> why I can't reassign control+alt+j.
> 
> I am out of ideas and will be calling FS for help on Monday.
> 
> Thanks all for your assistance. I will let the list know what happens.
> 
> Kimber
> 
>> On 4/9/16, TheHangMan  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I have both jaws activated 16 and 17 in my desktop,
>> Since, I had already set the jaws quick key before on J16, it carried over
>> to jaws 17.
>> There is no need to set it again.
>> The proof is in the pudding:
>> I shut of J17 and preform the quick key and it came back on.
>> Jorge
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 12:57 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>> 
>> Likely there were two desktop icons for JAWS, and one was still active.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 08:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>> 
>> 
>> What's curious in Kimber's case is that after she's removed j from the 
>> JAWS
>> 
>> 16 shortcut and confirmed that it's gone, control-alt -j still brings up
>> JAWS 16. I can't figure out why that would be.
>> 
>> On creation of the shortcut, which it sounds like Kimber knows what to do,
>> I'd add a little more. Assuming I'm want alt-control-j for JAWS 17, I'd do
>> as Mario suggests and type just j in the edit field. Then, instead of
>> pressing enter or tabbing to OK, I escape out of the dialog. For some
>> reason, this has been the surest way I've found for making the shortcut
>> stick.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 10:43 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>> 
>> Mario,
>> 
>> Yes, that's a good point. That way, the actual application is not invoked.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mario" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 07:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>> 
>> 
>> Kimber, in my experience, when you attempt to assign the hotkey using
>> the control+alt keys, just press the letter because control+alt is the
>> assumed modifier Windows believes you want to use plus the letter you
>> type. for example, you want to use control+alt+j as the hotkey to start
>> JAWS, just press the letter j when you get to the field to assign the
>> shortcut.
>> 
>> if you want to use a diferent combination, that's when you have to press
>> all the keys you want. for example, you want to use control+shift+j
>> instead, press all three keys to overide the default of control+alt+ the
>> letter of your choice.
>> 
>> hth
>>  Original Message 
>> From: Kimber Gardner
>> Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 7:32:17 AM EST
>> To: jaws-users-list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble assigning a hot key for jaws 17
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I had control-alt-J assigned as my hotkey for jaws 16, but I wanted to
>> reassign it to jaws 17. I went into properties under jaws 16 and
>> deleted the key assignment, only each time I try assigning that key
>> combo to jaws 17 in the property dialogue, instead of assigning the
>> keystroke it starts up jaws 16.
>> 
>> When I open the property dialogue under 16, it shows no hotkey
>> assigned. What am I missing?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kimber
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>> 
>>