[JAWS-Users] message rule email, please ignore

2016-10-21 Thread Mike B.
Hi All,

For those that didn't ignore, I just needed an email to create a message 
rule.  Sorry to inconvenience anyone.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


[JAWS-Users] How do I stop jaws from saying errow keys

2016-10-21 Thread Lev

hi listers,

ok, now my question is how do I stop jaws from saying "use errow keys" 
whatever I am on a tree view for example?



I just can't find this particular setting.



--
Hey, shout me louder on the streets.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI VIRUS PROGRAM WITH JAWS?

2016-10-21 Thread Kevin

what operating system are you using?
if you're using windows 10 the built in Defender antivirus is suitable if 
you don't suf the dark side of the internet!



-Original Message- 
From: Donna Hardy

Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 8:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI VIRUS PROGRAM WITH JAWS?

Hello,



I just uninstalled webroot security from my desktop per great FS technical
advice. It was not accessible for me and created havoc with jaws.



I would appreciate recommendations and experiences with anti virus programs.
Definitely need coverage.



Thank you in advance.

Donna



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem attempting to create a Portable copy of Image for Windows

2016-10-21 Thread David Ferrin
Honestly I had the same problem but after a few tries it finally worked just 
fine.


If you continue to have problems let me know and I will look further in to 
the issue.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike O'Brien

Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 12:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem attempting to create a Portable copy of 
Imagefor Windows


Hi

On a Windows 10 system where Image for Windows is currently installed, I am
attempting to create a portable version of Image for windows on a flash
drive using JAWS 18 beta 18.0.1834.  I am using the instructions given on
the JAWS-Users site for the Tips & Tricks item creating a portable copy of
Image for Windows and the Image for Windows 4 item in the audio tutorial
section.  I choose Any Win Builder Project's Apps Folder and receive the
message Warning Unable to find target PE Builder plugin folder.  Please
ensure you have selected the correct PE Builder location.  So how do I find
or obtain the PE Builder plugin folder?

Thanks for your help.



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a Web Page?

2016-10-21 Thread Kenny
I understand, that's why I immediately sent a reply saying please disregard.
I sent the question to the wrong list by mistake.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Moderator
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 4:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a
Web Page?

This subject is "off topic" for this list.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Kennedy" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a
Web Page?


in laptop mode i press capslock shift m to route the mouse then capslock
left bracket to click it.



On 10/21/2016 2:57 PM, Kenny wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Ok, I can't believe the free NVDA screen reader is able to read a 
> clickable element on a web page that JAWS wasn't able to see at all?
>
>
>
> Now my problem is trying to get the NVDA mouse tracking function to Route
> pointer to the browse cursor? In JAWS I would press [Insert]+[- on numpad]
> to route JAWS cursor to virtual cursor and left click (That's if JAWS saw
> the clickable element which it doesn't.)
>
>
>
> So in NVDA, I'm navigating the web page using the arrow keys in Browse 
> mode.
> Then I land on the clickable element which is contained in a table cell. I
> need the mouse pointer to left click it. Tried pressing [Insert]+[/ on
> Numpad] then hitting [/ on numpad] to do this but it's not working.
>
>
>
> Does NVDA have a special way of activating a clickable element on a web
> page? And no, pressing the [Enter] key doesn't work. Must use the mouse
> pointer to left click it.
>
>
>
> The element isn't a conventional link or banner. It's a graphic created by

> a
> JAVA script of some type.
>
>
>
> Am I'm even using the right steps?
>
>
>
> If I'm able to do this successfully, I'm going to think twice before
> investing another $140+ on my JAWS SMA when it expires. It's obvious the
> programmers of NVDA are more in tuned on providing useful functions to 
> users
> of their screen reader in their updates.
>
>
>
> Been using JAWS sense version 2.0 (My serial number is only 4 digits) so
> this definitely isn't an easy decision for me.
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

-- 
mozilla thunderbird email client


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a Web Page?

2016-10-21 Thread Moderator
This subject is "off topic" for this list.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Kennedy" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a 
Web Page?


in laptop mode i press capslock shift m to route the mouse then capslock
left bracket to click it.



On 10/21/2016 2:57 PM, Kenny wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Ok, I can't believe the free NVDA screen reader is able to read a 
> clickable
> element on a web page that JAWS wasn't able to see at all?
>
>
>
> Now my problem is trying to get the NVDA mouse tracking function to Route
> pointer to the browse cursor? In JAWS I would press [Insert]+[- on numpad]
> to route JAWS cursor to virtual cursor and left click (That's if JAWS saw
> the clickable element which it doesn't.)
>
>
>
> So in NVDA, I'm navigating the web page using the arrow keys in Browse 
> mode.
> Then I land on the clickable element which is contained in a table cell. I
> need the mouse pointer to left click it. Tried pressing [Insert]+[/ on
> Numpad] then hitting [/ on numpad] to do this but it's not working.
>
>
>
> Does NVDA have a special way of activating a clickable element on a web
> page? And no, pressing the [Enter] key doesn't work. Must use the mouse
> pointer to left click it.
>
>
>
> The element isn't a conventional link or banner. It's a graphic created by 
> a
> JAVA script of some type.
>
>
>
> Am I'm even using the right steps?
>
>
>
> If I'm able to do this successfully, I'm going to think twice before
> investing another $140+ on my JAWS SMA when it expires. It's obvious the
> programmers of NVDA are more in tuned on providing useful functions to 
> users
> of their screen reader in their updates.
>
>
>
> Been using JAWS sense version 2.0 (My serial number is only 4 digits) so
> this definitely isn't an easy decision for me.
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

-- 
mozilla thunderbird email client


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a WebPage?

2016-10-21 Thread Moderator
This subject is "off topic" for this list.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Kenny" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 2:57 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a 
WebPage?


Hello,



Ok, I can't believe the free NVDA screen reader is able to read a clickable
element on a web page that JAWS wasn't able to see at all?



Now my problem is trying to get the NVDA mouse tracking function to Route
pointer to the browse cursor? In JAWS I would press [Insert]+[- on numpad]
to route JAWS cursor to virtual cursor and left click (That's if JAWS saw
the clickable element which it doesn't.)



So in NVDA, I'm navigating the web page using the arrow keys in Browse mode.
Then I land on the clickable element which is contained in a table cell. I
need the mouse pointer to left click it. Tried pressing [Insert]+[/ on
Numpad] then hitting [/ on numpad] to do this but it's not working.



Does NVDA have a special way of activating a clickable element on a web
page? And no, pressing the [Enter] key doesn't work. Must use the mouse
pointer to left click it.



The element isn't a conventional link or banner. It's a graphic created by a
JAVA script of some type.



Am I'm even using the right steps?



If I'm able to do this successfully, I'm going to think twice before
investing another $140+ on my JAWS SMA when it expires. It's obvious the
programmers of NVDA are more in tuned on providing useful functions to users
of their screen reader in their updates.



Been using JAWS sense version 2.0 (My serial number is only 4 digits) so
this definitely isn't an easy decision for me.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a Web Page?

2016-10-21 Thread Josh Kennedy
in laptop mode i press capslock shift m to route the mouse then capslock 
left bracket to click it.




On 10/21/2016 2:57 PM, Kenny wrote:

Hello,

  


Ok, I can't believe the free NVDA screen reader is able to read a clickable
element on a web page that JAWS wasn't able to see at all?

  


Now my problem is trying to get the NVDA mouse tracking function to Route
pointer to the browse cursor? In JAWS I would press [Insert]+[- on numpad]
to route JAWS cursor to virtual cursor and left click (That's if JAWS saw
the clickable element which it doesn't.)

  


So in NVDA, I'm navigating the web page using the arrow keys in Browse mode.
Then I land on the clickable element which is contained in a table cell. I
need the mouse pointer to left click it. Tried pressing [Insert]+[/ on
Numpad] then hitting [/ on numpad] to do this but it's not working.

  


Does NVDA have a special way of activating a clickable element on a web
page? And no, pressing the [Enter] key doesn't work. Must use the mouse
pointer to left click it.

  


The element isn't a conventional link or banner. It's a graphic created by a
JAVA script of some type.

  


Am I'm even using the right steps?

  


If I'm able to do this successfully, I'm going to think twice before
investing another $140+ on my JAWS SMA when it expires. It's obvious the
programmers of NVDA are more in tuned on providing useful functions to users
of their screen reader in their updates.

  


Been using JAWS sense version 2.0 (My serial number is only 4 digits) so
this definitely isn't an easy decision for me.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


--
mozilla thunderbird email client


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


[JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a Web Page?

2016-10-21 Thread Kenny
Hello,

 

Ok, I can't believe the free NVDA screen reader is able to read a clickable
element on a web page that JAWS wasn't able to see at all?

 

Now my problem is trying to get the NVDA mouse tracking function to Route
pointer to the browse cursor? In JAWS I would press [Insert]+[- on numpad]
to route JAWS cursor to virtual cursor and left click (That's if JAWS saw
the clickable element which it doesn't.)

 

So in NVDA, I'm navigating the web page using the arrow keys in Browse mode.
Then I land on the clickable element which is contained in a table cell. I
need the mouse pointer to left click it. Tried pressing [Insert]+[/ on
Numpad] then hitting [/ on numpad] to do this but it's not working.

 

Does NVDA have a special way of activating a clickable element on a web
page? And no, pressing the [Enter] key doesn't work. Must use the mouse
pointer to left click it.

 

The element isn't a conventional link or banner. It's a graphic created by a
JAVA script of some type.

 

Am I'm even using the right steps?

 

If I'm able to do this successfully, I'm going to think twice before
investing another $140+ on my JAWS SMA when it expires. It's obvious the
programmers of NVDA are more in tuned on providing useful functions to users
of their screen reader in their updates.

 

Been using JAWS sense version 2.0 (My serial number is only 4 digits) so
this definitely isn't an easy decision for me.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


[JAWS-Users] Problem attempting to create a Portable copy of Image for Windows

2016-10-21 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

On a Windows 10 system where Image for Windows is currently installed, I am
attempting to create a portable version of Image for windows on a flash
drive using JAWS 18 beta 18.0.1834.  I am using the instructions given on
the JAWS-Users site for the Tips & Tricks item creating a portable copy of
Image for Windows and the Image for Windows 4 item in the audio tutorial
section.  I choose Any Win Builder Project's Apps Folder and receive the
message Warning Unable to find target PE Builder plugin folder.  Please
ensure you have selected the correct PE Builder location.  So how do I find
or obtain the PE Builder plugin folder?

Thanks for your help.



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


[JAWS-Users] ANTI VIRUS PROGRAM WITH JAWS?

2016-10-21 Thread Donna Hardy
Hello,

 

I just uninstalled webroot security from my desktop per great FS technical
advice. It was not accessible for me and created havoc with jaws. 

 

I would appreciate recommendations and experiences with anti virus programs.
Definitely need coverage. 

 

Thank you in advance.

Donna

 

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI VIRUS PROGRAM WITH JAWS?

2016-10-21 Thread Joey Lamperis
Viper 2016 but you're going to have to pay for it

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Donna Hardy  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> I just uninstalled webroot security from my desktop per great FS technical
> advice. It was not accessible for me and created havoc with jaws. 
> 
> 
> 
> I would appreciate recommendations and experiences with anti virus programs.
> Definitely need coverage. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

2016-10-21 Thread Maria Campbell
I have the same configuration, and as I said, JAWS 17 doesn't behave in 
the same manner as JAWS 18, which crashes Internet Explorer when 
entering on a link in Facebook from within a Thunderbird message.




Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 10/21/2016 9:36 AM, Kenny wrote:

I'm running Windows 10 Home Edition 64. On my PC, if IE 11 crashes, JAWS v18
does too. It's like they're sharing the same DLL files or something.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Adams
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 6:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I never have problems with jaws crashing but I have a continuous problem
with IE 11 crashing.  I have gone through my settings many times but I can't
find a solution to the crashing of IE 11.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kenny
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I also notice that too. When clicking on the button to display all comments
and so forth, both Internet Explorer 11 and JAWS 18 B3 crash! Very annoying.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Unfortunately, I find my JAWS 18 crashing, as well as Internet Explorer,
when entering on a Facebook link from within a message. This doesn't happen
with JAWS 17.  I'm using the mobile Facebook site.






For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

2016-10-21 Thread Kenny
I'm running Windows 10 Home Edition 64. On my PC, if IE 11 crashes, JAWS v18
does too. It's like they're sharing the same DLL files or something.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Adams
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 6:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I never have problems with jaws crashing but I have a continuous problem
with IE 11 crashing.  I have gone through my settings many times but I can't
find a solution to the crashing of IE 11.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kenny
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I also notice that too. When clicking on the button to display all comments
and so forth, both Internet Explorer 11 and JAWS 18 B3 crash! Very annoying.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Unfortunately, I find my JAWS 18 crashing, as well as Internet Explorer,
when entering on a Facebook link from within a message. This doesn't happen
with JAWS 17.  I'm using the mobile Facebook site.



-- 

Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

2016-10-21 Thread Fred Adams
I never have problems with jaws crashing but I have a continuous problem
with IE 11 crashing.  I have gone through my settings many times but I can't
find a solution to the crashing of IE 11.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kenny
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I also notice that too. When clicking on the button to display all comments
and so forth, both Internet Explorer 11 and JAWS 18 B3 crash! Very annoying.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Unfortunately, I find my JAWS 18 crashing, as well as Internet Explorer,
when entering on a Facebook link from within a message. This doesn't happen
with JAWS 17.  I'm using the mobile Facebook site.



-- 

Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes and Jaws

2016-10-21 Thread TheHangMan
Greg,
I thought the pro was for the life of the computer? Mines has not run good
in a while,

I downloaded the free version and ran a scan and was able to view the report
and find 

 tried to re-activate my pro version with my ID number and key number and I
have the same issues as you, I cannot get the save the report either to
view,
Since, this is an old malwarebytes, I guess I will renew,
Does anyone know how long is the pro version is good for? Or is it a yearly
or good for life of the pc,

I think malwarebytes maybe change their policy, so now you have to buy a new
pro version yearly,
You should be able to maneuver with the tab key only,

Thanks In advance

Jorge advance
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes and Jaws

Thanks, I was afraid of that.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kenny
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes and Jaws

The answer is absolutely not! That's why I didn't renew my yearly
subscription.

It seems that several popular anti-virus programs use this same program
configuration for some reason. They're completely inaccessible to JAWS beta
3. All I can do is [Tab] around and have the buttons landed on read to me.
Nothing else though.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes and Jaws

Iam using Jaws latest 17 on a Windows 10 computer.  I installed the free
Malwarebytes version 2.2.1.1043.  I can navigate the options on the menu to
start a scan and can use control+tab to go to the other headings such as
update and history.  However I cannot read any of the results  using Jaws,
even when I route Jaws to the pc cursor.  Does anyone have a way to read the
results?  Also is the paid version of Malwarebytes more accessible?

Greg Washington

 

 

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/