Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws
John, thanks for the clarification. I was confusing the two for sure. Judy & Libby -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John M. Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:43 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws It is highly unlikely that you need Java installed on your computer. You are confusing Java with JavaScript. The later is a scripting language that is a part of the web browser and enables web developers to do all sorts of zany things and drive us screen reader users crazy. On the other hand, Java is a full blown programming language for developing applications. Most home users do not need Java installed. I removed it from my computers in 2010 and have never had the need to reinstall it. I never install it on any of my clients computers and have never received a call from anyone asking to install Java to resolve a problem with an application that they wanted to run. Java is a security nightmare and unless you absolutely need it, do not install it. If you already have it installed, remove it. If you find that you need it at some point in the future, it can be easily reinstalled. Best, John - Original Message - From: "Judy" To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws > Hi, everyone, I enjoyed reading the info about Java. I always thought it > was > necessary to keep it up because of how they are doing websites these days, > but now Hans says that it isn't and I am confused. Could someone please > update me on Java, what it now does and what is necessary? When I wrote > that > post about a certain site jumping around I was wondering if it had > anything > to do with Java not being updated, but maybe that's not the case anymore. > Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby > > > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters?
Know what you mean! LOL I've had to do that a time or 2 myself! LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Kenny To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters? You are right. It didn't tackle my problem. Had to add some blank replacement references for the characters I didn't want spoken in the Dictionary manager. Couldn't find the characters I wanted silenced listed under the customize punctuation option in the settings center. Guess this will have to do. At least I can read my email in Eudora Pro in peace now. At 08:28 PM 4/15/2017, you wrote: >Hi Kenny, > >As you have probably figured out by now, that setting doesn't do any good >for the punctuation / symbols that you are looking to silence. Here's what >that setting does: >Use this edit box to determine when special characters are announced. Some >special characters are always announced. For example, the symbols for >Copyright, Registered, and Trademark are always read by JAWS. Select Never >so that most special characters are not announced. This is the default >setting. Select Type Echo, Say Char, Spell Word so that most special >characters are announced when typing, when reading by character, or when >spelling a word. Select Also Say Word so that special characters are >announced when reading by word, in addition to typing, reading by >character, >or spelling. Select Also Say Line so that special characters are announced >when reading by line, in addition to typing, reading by word or character, >or spelling. being announced under the conditions in the previous two >options. Select Also Say All so that special characters are announced when >reading using the Say All command, in addition to typing, reading by >character, word, or line, or spelling. > >Take care. >Mike >Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! >Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. >- Original Message - >From: Kenny >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:28 AM >Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended >Characters? > > >I noticed something in the Settings Center under >the Graphics and Symbols option: >Announce Special Symbols When > >I used the spacebar to toggle that option to "Never." > >Hopefully that will get rid of the announcing of >those special extended characters in Eudora Pro. >Thanks Mike for leading me down the right path. > >At 06:02 PM 4/13/2017, you wrote: > >Hi Kenny, > > > >You can do it through the Jaws dictionary, or customize punctuation > >settings > >in the Setting Center default all applications. You're easiest bet is to > >set the punctuation to, Some, rather than, Most, in Jaws quick settings, > >Jaws key + V. > >Take care. > >Mike > >Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! > >Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. > >- Original Message - > >From: Kenny > >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > >Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:30 AM > >Subject: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended > >Characters? > > > > > >Hello, > > > >I've been noticing JAWS speaking a lot of special > >extended characters when reviewing mail in Eudora > >Pro. Starting to drive me crazy! > > > >Characters like ?T and  to mention a few. > > > >I have punctuation set to "Most" for I do want to > >hear characters like quotes and hyphens spoken. > >Is there a way I can stop JAWS from speaking the extended character set? > > > > > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters?
You are right. It didn't tackle my problem. Had to add some blank replacement references for the characters I didn't want spoken in the Dictionary manager. Couldn't find the characters I wanted silenced listed under the customize punctuation option in the settings center. Guess this will have to do. At least I can read my email in Eudora Pro in peace now. At 08:28 PM 4/15/2017, you wrote: Hi Kenny, As you have probably figured out by now, that setting doesn't do any good for the punctuation / symbols that you are looking to silence. Here's what that setting does: Use this edit box to determine when special characters are announced. Some special characters are always announced. For example, the symbols for Copyright, Registered, and Trademark are always read by JAWS. Select Never so that most special characters are not announced. This is the default setting. Select Type Echo, Say Char, Spell Word so that most special characters are announced when typing, when reading by character, or when spelling a word. Select Also Say Word so that special characters are announced when reading by word, in addition to typing, reading by character, or spelling. Select Also Say Line so that special characters are announced when reading by line, in addition to typing, reading by word or character, or spelling. being announced under the conditions in the previous two options. Select Also Say All so that special characters are announced when reading using the Say All command, in addition to typing, reading by character, word, or line, or spelling. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Kenny To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters? I noticed something in the Settings Center under the Graphics and Symbols option: Announce Special Symbols When I used the spacebar to toggle that option to "Never." Hopefully that will get rid of the announcing of those special extended characters in Eudora Pro. Thanks Mike for leading me down the right path. At 06:02 PM 4/13/2017, you wrote: >Hi Kenny, > >You can do it through the Jaws dictionary, or customize punctuation >settings >in the Setting Center default all applications. You're easiest bet is to >set the punctuation to, Some, rather than, Most, in Jaws quick settings, >Jaws key + V. >Take care. >Mike >Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! >Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. >- Original Message - >From: Kenny >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:30 AM >Subject: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters? > > >Hello, > >I've been noticing JAWS speaking a lot of special >extended characters when reviewing mail in Eudora >Pro. Starting to drive me crazy! > >Characters like ?T and  to mention a few. > >I have punctuation set to "Most" for I do want to >hear characters like quotes and hyphens spoken. >Is there a way I can stop JAWS from speaking the extended character set? > > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters?
Hi Kenny, As you have probably figured out by now, that setting doesn't do any good for the punctuation / symbols that you are looking to silence. Here's what that setting does: Use this edit box to determine when special characters are announced. Some special characters are always announced. For example, the symbols for Copyright, Registered, and Trademark are always read by JAWS. Select Never so that most special characters are not announced. This is the default setting. Select Type Echo, Say Char, Spell Word so that most special characters are announced when typing, when reading by character, or when spelling a word. Select Also Say Word so that special characters are announced when reading by word, in addition to typing, reading by character, or spelling. Select Also Say Line so that special characters are announced when reading by line, in addition to typing, reading by word or character, or spelling. being announced under the conditions in the previous two options. Select Also Say All so that special characters are announced when reading using the Say All command, in addition to typing, reading by character, word, or line, or spelling. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Kenny To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters? I noticed something in the Settings Center under the Graphics and Symbols option: Announce Special Symbols When I used the spacebar to toggle that option to "Never." Hopefully that will get rid of the announcing of those special extended characters in Eudora Pro. Thanks Mike for leading me down the right path. At 06:02 PM 4/13/2017, you wrote: >Hi Kenny, > >You can do it through the Jaws dictionary, or customize punctuation >settings >in the Setting Center default all applications. You're easiest bet is to >set the punctuation to, Some, rather than, Most, in Jaws quick settings, >Jaws key + V. >Take care. >Mike >Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! >Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. >- Original Message - >From: Kenny >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:30 AM >Subject: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters? > > >Hello, > >I've been noticing JAWS speaking a lot of special >extended characters when reviewing mail in Eudora >Pro. Starting to drive me crazy! > >Characters like ?T and  to mention a few. > >I have punctuation set to "Most" for I do want to >hear characters like quotes and hyphens spoken. >Is there a way I can stop JAWS from speaking the extended character set? > > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] print screen
Ok where is that, and how do I get to it? Hi, Try the paint can. Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:57 PM To: 'jaws users' Subject: [JAWS-Users] print screen Hey Gang, My print screen key is where the application key should be on this Lenovo keyboard, so I keep on hitting it. My question is where do I go to delete all the pictures of the screen I took, or does it matter? I have a Toshiba laptop running windows 10, and Jaws 18. Thanks for any help. Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Context Menu Missing From Start Menu
Howdy Y'all, Gotter figured out. I had this turned off / unchecked in the Start Menu properties, Enable context menus and dragging and dropping-OFF & I needed to turn it on / check it. Now everything is good. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Mike B. To: Jaws-Users List Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Context Menu Missing From Start Menu Hi All, Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit & Jaws 15 thru 18. I turned off Classic Shell, then I uninstalled it, & since in either case, I haven't had a context menu in the Start Menu whether I'm in All Programs or not. Does anyone have any ideas to what setting has changed, or how I can get my context menu back in the Start Menu? All help will be greatly appreciated. thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Installing office sounds without previous versions of word installed on your computer
Good afternoon Jaws Users group. When I refreshed my PC, I decided to leave word 2010 off of my computer for now. But I could not stand to not have any office sounds in outlook 2016 or in word 2016. So after doing some searching and playing around with the below steps, I finally figured out how to get the office sounds working if you are just using the latest Outlook or word without any prior office versions on your computer. Warning, first go to file explorer options, view tab, change to allow hidden folders, tab to the OK button, press enter. Now go and download the office sounds from the Microsoft website. 1. Run sounds.exe - it will give you an error message. Don't click this error message away. Just leave the error message opened on your computer. With the error message still up, go to your AppData folder (HDD:\Users\**Your username**\appdata\local\temp, and search for sounds.msi, and run it with Admin rights. *This is where I was confused for a minute. Go to users/your users name/appdata/local/temp. Press Control+E, for the search edit, type, sounds.msi Now tab until you here the full path of the sound.exe file, press enter. Say yes to users account, the office sounds install dialog will now come up for you. Follow all the prompts, close this window and the open error message window message you left open. *Step two. After this installation completes, go into Office or Word, and disable the option "Provide feedback with sound" if already checked, close your app, reload and re-enable it. If already enabled, just enable it, other words, just press the spacebar, make sure it is checked, tab to OK, press enter. * Follow my directions, I just opened up word 2016 and did the following. 1. Press ALT+F, followed by the letter T, for word options. 2. Go to the advanced tab. 3. Faster to Shift+Tab, and go to, Provide feedback with sound checkbox. 4. I pressed the spacebar to uncheck, and pressed the spacebar to check it again, tab to the OK button, press enter. 5. Now close word 2016, open it again, you should have sounds. 6. This is fantastic, I finally have my sounds back in outlook 2016 and word 2016, with no prior word products installed on my computer. Good luck... Smiles. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws
Hi Adrian, Well, it didn't take me but a couple of hours before I uninstalled Java. After installing it I noticed that accessing websites that I use regularly were loding much slower, & my computer was taking longer to reboot or start. So Revo & I yanked that sucker out by its roots! Now, websites are back to loading normally, & my computer is start & restarting normally as well. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws This is one of those areas for a non-expert like me when I'm confused by the existence of opinions at the extremes. I've just done a little Google searching and find the following: Most browsers now no longer need or support JAVA. Unfortunately, Internet Explorer still does. Firefox is apparently phasing out Java. Google Chrome doesn't support it, nor does MS Edge. Many online commentators say that if you do need Java for a specific purpose, it should be fine so long as you keep it updated. However, I find Java's update page completely inaccessible. I wish I could remember why I reinstalled Java after years of not needing it. I vaguely recall the absence of Java often made 'submit" buttons impossible for JAWS to locate. Lately, I've been having that problem with several websites even with Java installed. Fortunately, JAWS is able to find these buttons when I switch to Chrome. So, although I haven't made a final decision, I'm leaning toward uninstalling Java from my system. If anyone wants to track the webpages I looked at, here's a link to the google results page that led me to most of them: https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=is+orcale%27s+java+safe+as+of+2017%3F&oq=is+orcale%27s+java+safe+as+of+2017%3F&gs_l=hp.3...6571.13768.0.16174.33.31.0.0.0.0.287.3108.12j9j4.25.00...1c.1.64.hp..8.22.2640...0j0i131k1j0i3k1j0i13i30k1j0i8i13i30k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1j33i160k1.qvCuOBvNod8#spf=1 -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John M. Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:43 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws It is highly unlikely that you need Java installed on your computer. You are confusing Java with JavaScript. The later is a scripting language that is a part of the web browser and enables web developers to do all sorts of zany things and drive us screen reader users crazy. On the other hand, Java is a full blown programming language for developing applications. Most home users do not need Java installed. I removed it from my computers in 2010 and have never had the need to reinstall it. I never install it on any of my clients computers and have never received a call from anyone asking to install Java to resolve a problem with an application that they wanted to run. Java is a security nightmare and unless you absolutely need it, do not install it. If you already have it installed, remove it. If you find that you need it at some point in the future, it can be easily reinstalled. Best, John - Original Message - From: "Judy" To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws > Hi, everyone, I enjoyed reading the info about Java. I always thought it > was > necessary to keep it up because of how they are doing websites these days, > but now Hans says that it isn't and I am confused. Could someone please > update me on Java, what it now does and what is necessary? When I wrote > that > post about a certain site jumping around I was wondering if it had > anything > to do with Java not being updated, but maybe that's not the case anymore. > Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby > > > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Context Menu Missing From Start Menu
Hi All, Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit & Jaws 15 thru 18. I turned off Classic Shell, then I uninstalled it, & since in either case, I haven't had a context menu in the Start Menu whether I'm in All Programs or not. Does anyone have any ideas to what setting has changed, or how I can get my context menu back in the Start Menu? All help will be greatly appreciated. thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program
those programs are not on the jaws programs list! I don't check for programs there because most of those programs are from the XP days! -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program Thanks Kevin. I went back to the Jaws-users page and could not find the first one you spoke of. I will check on the second one. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program a program I just remembered that is totally free is avi to dvd free the draw back with this program is that you can't title your dvd, although I have not been able to! -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program Afternoon all. Can anyone refer me to a DVD burner program from the JAWS-users.com site? I know that there are several cd burner programs, and I do have the MP3 Ripper program, but am uncertain if it will work on DVDs. Many Thanks and Happy Easter. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program
Thanks Kevin. I went back to the Jaws-users page and could not find the first one you spoke of. I will check on the second one. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program a program I just remembered that is totally free is avi to dvd free the draw back with this program is that you can't title your dvd, although I have not been able to! -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program Afternoon all. Can anyone refer me to a DVD burner program from the JAWS-users.com site? I know that there are several cd burner programs, and I do have the MP3 Ripper program, but am uncertain if it will work on DVDs. Many Thanks and Happy Easter. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program
a program I just remembered that is totally free is avi to dvd free the draw back with this program is that you can't title your dvd, although I have not been able to! -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program Afternoon all. Can anyone refer me to a DVD burner program from the JAWS-users.com site? I know that there are several cd burner programs, and I do have the MP3 Ripper program, but am uncertain if it will work on DVDs. Many Thanks and Happy Easter. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program
try freemake video converter it's free although when making a dvd you get the freemake splash screen at the beginning and end of your burned dvd unless you buy the premium pack or what they call donate. its only 9.99 and you can do so much with the program. -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program Afternoon all. Can anyone refer me to a DVD burner program from the JAWS-users.com site? I know that there are several cd burner programs, and I do have the MP3 Ripper program, but am uncertain if it will work on DVDs. Many Thanks and Happy Easter. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] restore point
just upgraded to 17 03 creators update and so far no biggy, although I do notice a stabilization of the jaws voice . MS edge still is jaws unusable. although I am use to using the jaws keys f5, f6 and f7 these don’t work in edge. so now I upgraded how do I create a restore point? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] DVD Burner Program
Afternoon all. Can anyone refer me to a DVD burner program from the JAWS-users.com site? I know that there are several cd burner programs, and I do have the MP3 Ripper program, but am uncertain if it will work on DVDs. Many Thanks and Happy Easter. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to Dropbox for sharing files
you could also try my favorite www.archive.org a free online library for all. it's easy to create an account, and there's an upload process that's (somewhat) optimized/simplified for those of us with print disabilities. Once you have created your account, go here: archive.org/create and you're on your way to your first upload. Side note: if you want to search the Archive, I advise you to use this third party site http://www.balbach.net/cgi-bin/iacs.awk?query= Blessings, Ande For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Eloquence, Pauses, and some pronunciation adjustments that I like
Good morning. Oh, the beauties of switching to newer software! some benefits, but also difficulties that I hadn't expected. In Jaws 9, I set the dictionary to give pauses when Jaws encounters dashes. actual words - - replacement word ), ), along with other dashes such as -- - -- but in Jaws 17, I find that my neat little custom rules don't apply anymore. Jaws keeps running through the sentences without any pauses. I have my punctuation set to None; would that have a bearing? Maybe you can help solve this riddle. For the record, here are some of my favorite pronunciation fixes. Maybe they'll help you with some nagging pronounced errors that you keep hearing. I've found that for newer versions of Jaws, if you're going to make dictionary entries with mainly capital letters, you need to check the Case Sensitive box. IS = Aye S Anabaptist = Anabaptisst Anabaptists = Anabaptissts survivalist = survighvalist 1:1 = 1 to 1 401(k) = 4o1K Amish = Ahmish apostate = aposstayte aquifer = aaquifer Assange = asonje ATT = AT&T behemoth = biheehmoth bejeezus = bejeezzuss block quote = quote Breitbart = Brightbahrt complicit = complissit Dr. = doctor Ecuadorian = Ehquadorian encrypted = encriptedd genocidal = genocighdal gobbledygook = goobldegooc hullabaloo = hullabullOo hypertrophy = hypirrtrofy impregnated = impregnneighted jihadis = jihahdeez Jr. = junior kinda = kyenda macular = mhacular Mr and Mr. = Mister same with Misses No. 1 = Number one oligarch = oligark Penelope = Paneloppy propagandist = propagandisst RIP = Rest in Peace scoliosis = skoaleeohsis serotonin = serotoanin WhatsApp = What'sApp x 3 = times 3 xenophobe = zenofoab See you, Ande For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Jaws, Braille, and Print Newline Indication
Hello to all. Is there a way to force Jaws to handle print newline characters differently? I do a great amount of proofreading using braille, and it's a constant source of annoyance to me that many times, the braille display isn't used to its fullest potential. Many times, the first part of the print line is shown nicely on the display, but the latter part only takes up a very small amount of the cells. Also, lists are repetitive to navigate. For example, when reading this list: IMPRESSION: 1. Asthma. 2. COPD. 3. Chronic back pain. 4. Migraine headaches In that example, I have to press the Next button on the braille display four times in order to get that little bit of information, because Jaws wraps the braille line to the end of the current print line. Does anyone know of any script that I could use to indicate the newline character by a special braille symbol? Or if there are any skilled scripters out there, I'd be happy to pay for such a script. In my above example, let's say that the newline character is indicated on the braille display as "space L with dot 7 space" making the list look like this: IMPRESSION: symbol 1. Asthma. symbol 2. COPD. symbol 3. Chronic back pain. symbol 4. Migraine headaches Any help is greatly appreciated. I use Jaws 9 or 17, depending on the computer I'm running at the time. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws
This is one of those areas for a non-expert like me when I'm confused by the existence of opinions at the extremes. I've just done a little Google searching and find the following: Most browsers now no longer need or support JAVA. Unfortunately, Internet Explorer still does. Firefox is apparently phasing out Java. Google Chrome doesn't support it, nor does MS Edge. Many online commentators say that if you do need Java for a specific purpose, it should be fine so long as you keep it updated. However, I find Java's update page completely inaccessible. I wish I could remember why I reinstalled Java after years of not needing it. I vaguely recall the absence of Java often made 'submit" buttons impossible for JAWS to locate. Lately, I've been having that problem with several websites even with Java installed. Fortunately, JAWS is able to find these buttons when I switch to Chrome. So, although I haven't made a final decision, I'm leaning toward uninstalling Java from my system. If anyone wants to track the webpages I looked at, here's a link to the google results page that led me to most of them: https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=is+orcale%27s+java+safe+as+of+2017%3F&oq=is+orcale%27s+java+safe+as+of+2017%3F&gs_l=hp.3...6571.13768.0.16174.33.31.0.0.0.0.287.3108.12j9j4.25.00...1c.1.64.hp..8.22.2640...0j0i131k1j0i3k1j0i13i30k1j0i8i13i30k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1j33i160k1.qvCuOBvNod8#spf=1 -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John M. Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:43 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws It is highly unlikely that you need Java installed on your computer. You are confusing Java with JavaScript. The later is a scripting language that is a part of the web browser and enables web developers to do all sorts of zany things and drive us screen reader users crazy. On the other hand, Java is a full blown programming language for developing applications. Most home users do not need Java installed. I removed it from my computers in 2010 and have never had the need to reinstall it. I never install it on any of my clients computers and have never received a call from anyone asking to install Java to resolve a problem with an application that they wanted to run. Java is a security nightmare and unless you absolutely need it, do not install it. If you already have it installed, remove it. If you find that you need it at some point in the future, it can be easily reinstalled. Best, John - Original Message - From: "Judy" To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws > Hi, everyone, I enjoyed reading the info about Java. I always thought it > was > necessary to keep it up because of how they are doing websites these days, > but now Hans says that it isn't and I am confused. Could someone please > update me on Java, what it now does and what is necessary? When I wrote > that > post about a certain site jumping around I was wondering if it had > anything > to do with Java not being updated, but maybe that's not the case anymore. > Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby > > > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws
It is highly unlikely that you need Java installed on your computer. You are confusing Java with JavaScript. The later is a scripting language that is a part of the web browser and enables web developers to do all sorts of zany things and drive us screen reader users crazy. On the other hand, Java is a full blown programming language for developing applications. Most home users do not need Java installed. I removed it from my computers in 2010 and have never had the need to reinstall it. I never install it on any of my clients computers and have never received a call from anyone asking to install Java to resolve a problem with an application that they wanted to run. Java is a security nightmare and unless you absolutely need it, do not install it. If you already have it installed, remove it. If you find that you need it at some point in the future, it can be easily reinstalled. Best, John - Original Message - From: "Judy" To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws Hi, everyone, I enjoyed reading the info about Java. I always thought it was necessary to keep it up because of how they are doing websites these days, but now Hans says that it isn't and I am confused. Could someone please update me on Java, what it now does and what is necessary? When I wrote that post about a certain site jumping around I was wondering if it had anything to do with Java not being updated, but maybe that's not the case anymore. Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] powerpoitn in protected view
How do you get powerpoint out of protective view? At work, Alt f I e doesn't seem to work. there is an okay button somewhere, but I can't seem to hit it, then the screen hangs up. How does that work? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters?
Hi Kenny, I've never used that option, would you please let the list know how it works out for you? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Kenny To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters? I noticed something in the Settings Center under the Graphics and Symbols option: Announce Special Symbols When I used the spacebar to toggle that option to "Never." Hopefully that will get rid of the announcing of those special extended characters in Eudora Pro. Thanks Mike for leading me down the right path. At 06:02 PM 4/13/2017, you wrote: >Hi Kenny, > >You can do it through the Jaws dictionary, or customize punctuation >settings >in the Setting Center default all applications. You're easiest bet is to >set the punctuation to, Some, rather than, Most, in Jaws quick settings, >Jaws key + V. >Take care. >Mike >Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! >Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. >- Original Message - >From: Kenny >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:30 AM >Subject: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters? > > >Hello, > >I've been noticing JAWS speaking a lot of special >extended characters when reviewing mail in Eudora >Pro. Starting to drive me crazy! > >Characters like ?T and  to mention a few. > >I have punctuation set to "Most" for I do want to >hear characters like quotes and hyphens spoken. >Is there a way I can stop JAWS from speaking the extended character set? > > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters?
I noticed something in the Settings Center under the Graphics and Symbols option: Announce Special Symbols When I used the spacebar to toggle that option to "Never." Hopefully that will get rid of the announcing of those special extended characters in Eudora Pro. Thanks Mike for leading me down the right path. At 06:02 PM 4/13/2017, you wrote: Hi Kenny, You can do it through the Jaws dictionary, or customize punctuation settings in the Setting Center default all applications. You're easiest bet is to set the punctuation to, Some, rather than, Most, in Jaws quick settings, Jaws key + V. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Kenny To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:30 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters? Hello, I've been noticing JAWS speaking a lot of special extended characters when reviewing mail in Eudora Pro. Starting to drive me crazy! Characters like ?T and  to mention a few. I have punctuation set to "Most" for I do want to hear characters like quotes and hyphens spoken. Is there a way I can stop JAWS from speaking the extended character set? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:
Although this is interesting and I too go back over 20 years starting out with JFW 2.03, I think it is time to pull off of memory lane folks. -Original Message- From: Kenny Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 7:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: JAWS for DOS. LOL! Those were the good old days. My serial number is in the mid 7000. Remember installing JAWS v2 using floppy disks back then. Boy how the web has changed. I would love to know how much I've spent over the years on SMA renewals. Oh well, it was definitely worth it. At 06:28 PM 4/14/2017, you wrote: My serial number is also in the low 1100's. Though, I began my experience with Jaws version II. My rehabilitation counselor wanted to purchase Jaws for dos for me. I have always regretted not allowing her to do so. Because, I since wanted to have the privilege of booting up the computer using the hardware dec-talk synthesizer, and Jaws for dos. I think it is a sad thing we can do nothing prior to Jaws booting itself into windows. As there is no speech prior to windows booting itself. . - Original Message - From: "George Marshall" To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Hi gang: Well I'm probably a little older than Dave and Lenny. I first met Ted Henter when he and I think Derek came down to Fort Myers and they had a seminar at red lobster, I spoke to both of them at that time don't remember the exact date. I was using TSI'S speech synthesizer on an IBM 3280. I and my department director went over to Stuart Florida and watch the demo of an early standalone computer, we didn't buy it. D I then received a modified version of the IBM 3280 with speech, it had a little pad that was connected by a cable that you used to control the speech much like what you do now on a desktop with jaws for speech. E I don't know that I was first or second to buy jaws but I can tell you my serial number is in the low 1100s. P it's been a great trip through version 1 up to 18 now and I've had every version I have long retired from the school system. A I will be 83 years old at the end of June, so this probably puts me as one of the oldest on this list. R Hope this rambling through a little of history helps, tment director George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Lenny, Your age is showing, man. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: A little more information. In 1980 Dean Blazy started Maryland Computer Systems where he first released ITS , information through speech, it was based on an HP computer. Ted Hinter worked for Dean at that time. In 1980 I had the world's first talking computer linked to an IBM main frame computer an IBM 370. After the first or 2nd winter in Maryland Ted left for a warmer climate and started his own company. There was a dispute over the name so he changed it to Hinter Joyce. It was around 1985 when I purchased jaws for dos. In 1995 he released JFW, I was the 47th individual to purchase that product. -Original Message- From: Angel238 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: On this list, there have been references to "Freedom Scientific". The company which preceded the current company. Which now owns our adaptive screen reading and magnification products. I think it might be of interest to the newer users of Jaws to know: "Freedom Scientific" was not the first company to own Jaws. The first was "Henter Joyce". Founded by Ted Henter, and, I believe Dean Blazy. It might also interest you to know, Ted henter was blind. He sold the company. to illustrate again how successful we blind people can be. If we just reach for the stars, and develop our fullest potential. Which we do all the time. How far Jaws has come from the time when its initials meant Job Access With Speech. Young people, now days, are indeed fortunate to be able to accomplish, with so much more ease, things which much more effort was taken to achieve a half century ago. Prior to the use of the internet, and when our only printing device was the typewriter. Though, then, once a skill was learned, one could rely on being able to employ that skill for years. Now, it seems, with such rapid changes, it seems new skills must be learned constantly. To accomplish the same things? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked ques
