Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

[Subash]

Hi Dave, I'm using WLM 2012, and even though I have the option to always 
spellcheck before sending mail, it never worked.
I assume it's because I don't have MS office installed. Am I correct or I 
need to do something else for it to work?

Thanks. Keep up the good job.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Windows live mail 2009 or 2012.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Hello;
When you say live mail, are you referring to the windows 10 mail app?


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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Live mail seems to have its' own spell checking program, so not to worry.

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Good afternoon all;
I'm starting training with a new client tomorrow,
She's using windows 10 home,
Jaws 18,
Most likely she will be learning to use, windows live mail, or, windows 10
mail,
Does anyone have a suggestion for using a spellcheck program? She doesn't
have office.
So a stand alone spellchecker program will be necessary.
In advance, thanks for the help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Rick Justice]

Hi Andy,
Go back into the settings of your e-mail client and make sure your user name 
and password are correct,
and make sure the following is not checked:
"Secure Password Authentication" (spa)

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

> On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get
>> when I try to download my Email from Gmail.
>>
>> Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication.
>> Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3,
>> Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995,
>> Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18
>>
>> What should i try?
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Rick Justice"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
>>
>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> Give this a try:
>>>
>>> Source:
>>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1
>>>
>>>
>>> Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP
>>>
>>> You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
>>> POP, like Microsoft Outlook.
>>>
>>> Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails
>>>
>>> IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
>>> clients.
>>>
>>> IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real
>>> time.
>>>
>>> POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
>>> time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
>>> download
>>> new emails.
>>>
>>> Step 2: Set up POP
>>> First, set up POP in Gmail
>>> list of 6 items
>>> 1. On your computer, open
>>> Gmail.
>>> 2. In the top right, click Settings
>>> Settings
>>> .
>>> 3. Click Settings.
>>> 4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
>>> 5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or
>>> Enable
>>> POP for mail that arrives from now on.
>>> 6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
>>> list end
>>>
>>> Next, make changes on your email client
>>>
>>> Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.
>>>
>>> table with 2 columns and 6 rows
>>> Incoming Mail (POP) Server
>>>
>>> pop.gmail.com
>>>
>>> Requires SSL: Yes
>>>
>>> Port: 995
>>>
>>> Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
>>>
>>> smtp.gmail.com
>>>
>>> Requires SSL: Yes
>>>
>>> Requires TLS: Yes (if available)
>>>
>>> Requires Authentication: Yes
>>>
>>> Port for SSL: 465
>>>
>>> Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
>>>
>>> If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter
>>> mail.domain.com,
>>> then select Port 110.
>>>
>>> Server timeouts
>>> Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
>>> Full Name or Display Name
>>> Your name
>>> Account Name, User Name, or Email address
>>> Your email address
>>> Password
>>> Your Gmail password
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Rick Justice
>>>
>>> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
>>> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering
>>> how do I
>>> go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

[David Ferrin]

I will need to double check on the system I have 2009 installed if it has 
office on it or not. I'll let you know later on when I get back there and 
find out.


Either way the spell check always seems to work for me, and it's a good 
thing because I sure need it.
-Original Message- 
From: Subash

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Hi Dave, I'm using WLM 2012, and even though I have the option to always
spellcheck before sending mail, it never worked.
I assume it's because I don't have MS office installed. Am I correct or I
need to do something else for it to work?
Thanks. Keep up the good job.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Windows live mail 2009 or 2012.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Hello;
When you say live mail, are you referring to the windows 10 mail app?


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Live mail seems to have its' own spell checking program, so not to worry.

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Good afternoon all;
I'm starting training with a new client tomorrow,
She's using windows 10 home,
Jaws 18,
Most likely she will be learning to use, windows live mail, or, windows 10
mail,
Does anyone have a suggestion for using a spellcheck program? She doesn't
have office.
So a stand alone spellchecker program will be necessary.
In advance, thanks for the help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

[David Ferrin]

Rick Justice and the ever popular Bob Gilman, but don't tell him that, he 
might ask for a raise.


I imagine the recent influx of new members is because of the window eyes 
change over, but that is only a guess.


Actually it is the group as a whole that keeps it going. Generally the list 
is self supporting and mostly we just read the messages, kind of like 
crossing guards making sure everybody stays between the lines.


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

Tim asked who the other mods were and Wayne said
You guys rock! Thanks for all of the help and community! God bless you!

Wayne
Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

My apologies to Tim and Wayne because your replies to my message arrived
here blank. There is still something wrong with live mail 2012 even after I
repaired it a couple of times.

So I have no idea what your messages are saying. I'm sure if I ask Rick he
will forward them to me, I'm not so sure about Bob, maybe if I ask him real
nice.

Either way thanks for the replies.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count




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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Dennis Long]

First if your using a client such as outlook thunderbird outlook express
etc. you want to go into gmail settings and allow less secure apps.  Second
make sure pop3 is turned in gmail settings.  I am using pop3 and it's
working like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I
try to download my Email from Gmail.

Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account:

'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: 
'-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes,
Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Rick Justice" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


> Hi Andy,
> Give this a try:
>
> Source:
>
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636
261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1
>
> Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP
>
> You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
> POP, like Microsoft Outlook.
>
> Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails
>
> IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
> clients.
>
> IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.
>
> POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
> time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
> download
> new emails.
>
> Step 2: Set up POP
> First, set up POP in Gmail
> list of 6 items
> 1. On your computer, open
> Gmail.
> 2. In the top right, click Settings
> Settings
> .
> 3. Click Settings.
> 4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
> 5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
> POP for mail that arrives from now on.
> 6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
> list end
>
> Next, make changes on your email client
>
> Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.
>
> table with 2 columns and 6 rows
> Incoming Mail (POP) Server
>
> pop.gmail.com
>
> Requires SSL: Yes
>
> Port: 995
>
> Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
>
> smtp.gmail.com
>
> Requires SSL: Yes
>
> Requires TLS: Yes (if available)
>
> Requires Authentication: Yes
>
> Port for SSL: 465
>
> Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
>
> If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
> then select Port 110.
>
> Server timeouts
> Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
> Full Name or Display Name
> Your name
> Account Name, User Name, or Email address
> Your email address
> Password
> Your Gmail password
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Andy Baracco" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
>
>
> I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do 
> I
> go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?
>
> Andy
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Dennis Long]

As previously I am using pop so your incorrect.  I gave instructions that
will mostly fix the problem  Imap is not for everyone.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dialup@56k
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

Actually, I don't think g mail uses POP these days, could be wrong.
But as the Jeff said, IMAP is much more versatile than POP.
Glen


---
On 25-May-2017 12:27 pm, Audiobookfan wrote:
> I'm not sure what might be going wrong, but if you want to access your 
> mail on both your phone and your computer, you might want to consider 
> using IMAP rather than POP3.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get 
>> when I try to download my Email from Gmail.
>>
>> Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. 
>> Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, 
>> Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 
>> 995,
>> Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18
>>
>> What should i try?
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
>>
>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> Give this a try:
>>>
>>> Source:
>>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_
>>> id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1
>>>
>>>
>>> Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP
>>>
>>> You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that 
>>> support POP, like Microsoft Outlook.
>>>
>>> Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails
>>>
>>> IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other 
>>> email clients.
>>>
>>> IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in 
>>> real time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you 
>>> want to download new emails.
>>>
>>> Step 2: Set up POP
>>> First, set up POP in Gmail
>>> list of 6 items
>>> 1. On your computer, open
>>> Gmail.
>>> 2. In the top right, click Settings
>>> Settings
>>> .
>>> 3. Click Settings.
>>> 4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
>>> 5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or 
>>> Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on.
>>> 6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
>>> list end
>>>
>>> Next, make changes on your email client
>>>
>>> Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.
>>>
>>> table with 2 columns and 6 rows
>>> Incoming Mail (POP) Server
>>>
>>> pop.gmail.com
>>>
>>> Requires SSL: Yes
>>>
>>> Port: 995
>>>
>>> Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
>>>
>>> smtp.gmail.com
>>>
>>> Requires SSL: Yes
>>>
>>> Requires TLS: Yes (if available)
>>>
>>> Requires Authentication: Yes
>>>
>>> Port for SSL: 465
>>>
>>> Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
>>>
>>> If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter 
>>> mail.domain.com, then select Port 110.
>>>
>>> Server timeouts
>>> Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended) Full Name or Display Name 
>>> Your name Account Name, User Name, or Email address Your email 
>>> address Password Your Gmail password
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Rick Justice
>>>
>>> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
>>> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering 
>>> how do I go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Thomas N. Chan]

Did you enable this option in the main screen of your account?
"Secure Password Authentication"
If yes, disable it and try again.



regards
Thomas N. Chan 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I 
try to download my Email from Gmail.

Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account:

'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: 
'-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, 
Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


> Hi Andy,
> Give this a try:
>
> Source:
>
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636
261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1
>
> Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP
>
> You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
> POP, like Microsoft Outlook.
>
> Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails
>
> IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
> clients.
>
> IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.
>
> POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
> time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
> download
> new emails.
>
> Step 2: Set up POP
> First, set up POP in Gmail
> list of 6 items
> 1. On your computer, open
> Gmail.
> 2. In the top right, click Settings
> Settings
> .
> 3. Click Settings.
> 4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
> 5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
> POP for mail that arrives from now on.
> 6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
> list end
>
> Next, make changes on your email client
>
> Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.
>
> table with 2 columns and 6 rows
> Incoming Mail (POP) Server
>
> pop.gmail.com
>
> Requires SSL: Yes
>
> Port: 995
>
> Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
>
> smtp.gmail.com
>
> Requires SSL: Yes
>
> Requires TLS: Yes (if available)
>
> Requires Authentication: Yes
>
> Port for SSL: 465
>
> Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
>
> If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
> then select Port 110.
>
> Server timeouts
> Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
> Full Name or Display Name
> Your name
> Account Name, User Name, or Email address
> Your email address
> Password
> Your Gmail password
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Andy Baracco" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
>
>
> I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do 
> I
> go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?
>
> Andy
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
I think the message you received has to do with security.

Check out the following;

https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I 
try to download my Email from Gmail.

Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account:

'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: 
'-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, 
Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


> Hi Andy,
> Give this a try:
>
> Source:
>
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636
261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1
>
> Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP
>
> You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
> POP, like Microsoft Outlook.
>
> Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails
>
> IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
> clients.
>
> IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.
>
> POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
> time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
> download
> new emails.
>
> Step 2: Set up POP
> First, set up POP in Gmail
> list of 6 items
> 1. On your computer, open
> Gmail.
> 2. In the top right, click Settings
> Settings
> .
> 3. Click Settings.
> 4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
> 5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
> POP for mail that arrives from now on.
> 6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
> list end
>
> Next, make changes on your email client
>
> Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.
>
> table with 2 columns and 6 rows
> Incoming Mail (POP) Server
>
> pop.gmail.com
>
> Requires SSL: Yes
>
> Port: 995
>
> Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
>
> smtp.gmail.com
>
> Requires SSL: Yes
>
> Requires TLS: Yes (if available)
>
> Requires Authentication: Yes
>
> Port for SSL: 465
>
> Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
>
> If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
> then select Port 110.
>
> Server timeouts
> Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
> Full Name or Display Name
> Your name
> Account Name, User Name, or Email address
> Your email address
> Password
> Your Gmail password
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Andy Baracco" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
>
>
> I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do 
> I
> go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?
>
> Andy
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
As I indicated, I believe the windows 10 mail app has spell check, however,
according to my Google research, windows live mail doesn't have the
spellcheck. You'll need a office version, or download a stand alone
spellcheck program.


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Subash
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Hi Dave, I'm using WLM 2012, and even though I have the option to always 
spellcheck before sending mail, it never worked.
I assume it's because I don't have MS office installed. Am I correct or I 
need to do something else for it to work?
Thanks. Keep up the good job.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Windows live mail 2009 or 2012.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Hello;
When you say live mail, are you referring to the windows 10 mail app?


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Live mail seems to have its' own spell checking program, so not to worry.

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Good afternoon all;
I'm starting training with a new client tomorrow,
She's using windows 10 home,
Jaws 18,
Most likely she will be learning to use, windows live mail, or, windows 10
mail,
Does anyone have a suggestion for using a spellcheck program? She doesn't
have office.
So a stand alone spellchecker program will be necessary.
In advance, thanks for the help.


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[JAWS-Users] firefox bookmark

[Kevin]

anyone know how to change the address of a bookmark in firefox?
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

[John R Vaughn]

on the box, try doing an alt key plus down arrow and then down and up arrow
through the list.
John

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:18 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

How do you open and navigate a list box in IE 11? I have been spinning my
wheels trying to find the answer in The Jaws help .  Thanks, Tom For answers
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[JAWS-Users] gmail problem

[Lenny McHugh]

A friend just switched from verizon to gmail. She can send me an email 
however she can not reply. When she replies all that I get is the words 
email email email. I do not know what to tell her to try and correct the 
problem. I do have other friends that use gmail with no problem. Any 
suggestions?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[LeDon]

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system. 

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.  

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] gmail problem

[Gerald Levy]

Are your friend's server settings correct?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:37 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] gmail problem

A friend just switched from verizon to gmail. She can send me an email
however she can not reply. When she replies all that I get is the words
email email email. I do not know what to tell her to try and correct the
problem. I do have other friends that use gmail with no problem. Any
suggestions?


---

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It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

[T. Civitello]

Thanks. Tried it, didn't work. Tom

-Original Message- 
From: John R Vaughn

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

on the box, try doing an alt key plus down arrow and then down and up arrow
through the list.
John

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Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:18 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

How do you open and navigate a list box in IE 11? I have been spinning my
wheels trying to find the answer in The Jaws help .  Thanks, Tom For answers
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Re: [JAWS-Users] gmail problem

[Lenny McHugh]

I am not sure what they should be.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] gmail problem


Are your friend's server settings correct?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:37 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] gmail problem

A friend just switched from verizon to gmail. She can send me an email
however she can not reply. When she replies all that I get is the words
email email email. I do not know what to tell her to try and correct the
problem. I do have other friends that use gmail with no problem. Any
suggestions?


---

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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

[Adrian Spratt]

There are several different ways these controls work. You should be able to get 
inside the box by pressing enter where JAWS verbalizes the control's name, such 
as "list." then try John's suggestion again. If that doesn't work, start over 
by pressing enter, then skip the alt-arrow step and just arrow down. To get out 
of the box, try pressing alt-up arrow. 
In one box that I work with all the time, the trick is to press enter when I 
hit the option I want. Then I need to press the PC cursor twice to get out of 
the control.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

Thanks. Tried it, didn't work. Tom

-Original Message-
From: John R Vaughn
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

on the box, try doing an alt key plus down arrow and then down and up arrow 
through the list.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of T. Civitello
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:18 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

How do you open and navigate a list box in IE 11? I have been spinning my 
wheels trying to find the answer in The Jaws help .  Thanks, Tom For answers to 
frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

[T. Civitello]

I have tried both of these ways and couldn't get either to work. This list 
is the language selection in the Google advanced search.  Tom


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

There are several different ways these controls work. You should be able to 
get inside the box by pressing enter where JAWS verbalizes the control's 
name, such as "list." then try John's suggestion again. If that doesn't 
work, start over by pressing enter, then skip the alt-arrow step and just 
arrow down. To get out of the box, try pressing alt-up arrow.
In one box that I work with all the time, the trick is to press enter when I 
hit the option I want. Then I need to press the PC cursor twice to get out 
of the control.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of T. Civitello

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

Thanks. Tried it, didn't work. Tom

-Original Message-
From: John R Vaughn
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

on the box, try doing an alt key plus down arrow and then down and up arrow 
through the list.

John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of T. Civitello

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:18 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

How do you open and navigate a list box in IE 11? I have been spinning my 
wheels trying to find the answer in The Jaws help .  Thanks, Tom For answers 
to frequently asked questions about this list visit:

http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

[Bissett, Tom]

I just took a look.  It actually is working but it is not announcing the 
language but rather just says advanced search.  If I press the down arrow a 
couple of times and press enter and then read the box it will say the language. 
 Not very useful.  
Regards
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

I have tried both of these ways and couldn't get either to work. This list is 
the language selection in the Google advanced search.  Tom

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

There are several different ways these controls work. You should be able to get 
inside the box by pressing enter where JAWS verbalizes the control's name, such 
as "list." then try John's suggestion again. If that doesn't work, start over 
by pressing enter, then skip the alt-arrow step and just arrow down. To get out 
of the box, try pressing alt-up arrow.
In one box that I work with all the time, the trick is to press enter when I 
hit the option I want. Then I need to press the PC cursor twice to get out of 
the control.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

Thanks. Tried it, didn't work. Tom

-Original Message-
From: John R Vaughn
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

on the box, try doing an alt key plus down arrow and then down and up arrow 
through the list.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of T. Civitello
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:18 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

How do you open and navigate a list box in IE 11? I have been spinning my 
wheels trying to find the answer in The Jaws help .  Thanks, Tom For answers to 
frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Tom Behler]

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.

 

I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Gerald Levy]

Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is 
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would 
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

[Adrian Spratt]

Once inside the list, try pressing JAWS key+escape to have JAWS refresh the 
screen. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

I just took a look.  It actually is working but it is not announcing the 
language but rather just says advanced search.  If I press the down arrow a 
couple of times and press enter and then read the box it will say the language. 
 Not very useful.  
Regards
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

I have tried both of these ways and couldn't get either to work. This list is 
the language selection in the Google advanced search.  Tom

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

There are several different ways these controls work. You should be able to get 
inside the box by pressing enter where JAWS verbalizes the control's name, such 
as "list." then try John's suggestion again. If that doesn't work, start over 
by pressing enter, then skip the alt-arrow step and just arrow down. To get out 
of the box, try pressing alt-up arrow.
In one box that I work with all the time, the trick is to press enter when I 
hit the option I want. Then I need to press the PC cursor twice to get out of 
the control.

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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

Thanks. Tried it, didn't work. Tom

-Original Message-
From: John R Vaughn
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

on the box, try doing an alt key plus down arrow and then down and up arrow 
through the list.
John

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Of T. Civitello
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:18 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

How do you open and navigate a list box in IE 11? I have been spinning my 
wheels trying to find the answer in The Jaws help .  Thanks, Tom For answers to 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDF Articles

[Adrian Spratt]

You might check your accessibility settings. However, I'd use JAWS's very 
useful OCR function. JAWS key+spacebar, then o for OCR, then d for document.

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Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot advance 
beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or the page 
up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the 
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be 
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the file.

 

I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe 
Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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[JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[Reed]

Hello,

 

With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window
list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never seen
before.  

I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other random
times.

When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells me
"JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The
configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."

 

When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To show
JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more technical
information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."

 

When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,

"Window Technical Information:

Control ID  0

Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C

Handle  983746".

So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class real
fast.  Bet you can't.

 

When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on this
Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.

 

Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?

 

 

Thanks,

 

Reed  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Tim Ford]

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular alt key
menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, there
are great features there.

Tim Ford
 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


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Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

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[JAWS-Users] Windows switches from Chrome to IE-11 when accessing a link in an email

[George Martinez]

Hello,
I am using Windows 10, JAWS 17, and Outlook 2016.
I have recently made Chrome my default browser and it is working as such except 
for when I receive emails in Constant Contact FROWN
When I click on the link it gives me the obligatory warning about reading an 
email in the browser then it comes up and informs me it will use IE-11 to read 
unless I say differently.  Down below it offers me Chrome as the first 
alternative.
If I have Chrome as my default is this Constant Contact or Windows that is 
doing this to me?
George


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Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 1-206-666-2589
Email george.martinez...@gmcpa.net

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[Maria Campbell]

I see the same thing and ask the same question.


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things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/25/2017 12:16 PM, Reed wrote:

Hello,

  


With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window
list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never seen
before.

I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other random
times.

When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells me
"JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The
configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."

  


When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To show
JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more technical
information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."

  


When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,

"Window Technical Information:

Control ID  0

Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C

Handle  983746".

So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class real
fast.  Bet you can't.

  


When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on this
Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.

  


Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?

  

  


Thanks,

  


Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[John Vernaleken`]

I also have this.

John


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Reed
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hello,

 

With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window
list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never seen
before.  

I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other random
times.

When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells me
"JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The
configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."

 

When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To show
JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more technical
information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."

 

When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,

"Window Technical Information:

Control ID  0

Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C

Handle  983746".

So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class real
fast.  Bet you can't.

 

When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on this
Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.

 

Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?

 

 

Thanks,

 

Reed  

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[JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Vicki]

Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS. 

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to take a 
look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I need it 
slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and 
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the other 
language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[Jim Flusche]

Hi Reed, thanks for letting me know. Same here in the Creators update. In this 
"OverlayWindow0, I tried the Jaws cursor, the touch cursor, but it seems like a 
phantom window. No way that I see to interact with this window. I will leave 
this up to the smart computer technicians. After all I am just a pinhead. LOL.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Reed
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hello,

 

With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window list", I 
am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never seen before.  

I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other random 
times.

When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells me "JAWS 
for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The configuration 
name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."

 

When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To show JAWS 
what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more technical information 
on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."

 

When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,

"Window Technical Information:

Control ID  0

Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C

Handle  983746".

So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class real 
fast.  Bet you can't.

 

When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on this 
Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.

 

Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?

 

 

Thanks,

 

Reed  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[net bat66]

i don't know if this is the same thing.
but in the utility/settings menu. in user there is the option to turn on or off 
a virtual viewer. maybe this is the window overlay you are talking about.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hi Reed, thanks for letting me know. Same here in the Creators update. In this 
"OverlayWindow0, I tried the Jaws cursor, the touch cursor, but it seems like a 
phantom window. No way that I see to interact with this window. I will leave 
this up to the smart computer technicians. After all I am just a pinhead. LOL.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Reed

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hello,



With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window list", I 
am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never seen before.


I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other random 
times.


When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells me "JAWS 
for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The configuration 
name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."




When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To show JAWS 
what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more technical information 
on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."




When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,

"Window Technical Information:

Control ID  0

Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C

Handle  983746".

So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class real 
fast.  Bet you can't.




When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on this 
Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.




Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?





Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[wayne smith]

Tom, I have noticed that when I open a PDF lately the menu pops up for
opening it and when I tab to where it has a combo box where you choose
either to open whole document or the other is open only first page, the
first page option is now on top and I have to arrow down to open the whole
document.  You might want to tab slowly to check out that choice.

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:04 AM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.

 

I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi Tom

To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  To
move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.

 

I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[Maria Campbell]

How about it, Eric D'amery?  Is this how to fix this window overlay issue?


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On 5/25/2017 1:46 PM, net bat66 wrote:

i don't know if this is the same thing.
but in the utility/settings menu. in user there is the option to turn 
on or off a virtual viewer. maybe this is the window overlay you are 
talking about.


-Original Message- From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hi Reed, thanks for letting me know. Same here in the Creators update. 
In this "OverlayWindow0, I tried the Jaws cursor, the touch cursor, 
but it seems like a phantom window. No way that I see to interact with 
this window. I will leave this up to the smart computer technicians. 
After all I am just a pinhead. LOL.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Reed

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hello,



With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window 
list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never 
seen before.


I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other 
random times.


When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells 
me "JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The 
configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."




When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To 
show JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more 
technical information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."




When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,

"Window Technical Information:

Control ID  0

Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C

Handle  983746".

So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class 
real fast.  Bet you can't.




When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on 
this Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.




Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?





Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Yes, that was the issue. I have to do all of this because one Email list 
domain doesn't play with my Roadrunner address.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Go back into the settings of your e-mail client and make sure your user 
name

and password are correct,
and make sure the following is not checked:
"Secure Password Authentication" (spa)

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get
when I try to download my Email from Gmail.

Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication.
Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3,
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - From: "Rick Justice"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1


Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that 
support

POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real
time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in 
real

time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or
Enable
POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter
mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering
how do I
go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

This was the case. This all had to be done because one Email list domain 
that I get mail from doesn't play with my Roadrunner account.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "David Whitehead" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


Hello;
I think the message you received has to do with security.

Check out the following;

https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps


Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I
try to download my Email from Gmail.

Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account:

'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response:
'-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes,
Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:


https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636
261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1


Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do
I
go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Tom Behler]

Wayne:

I reviewed  the choices in the open menu, and made sure that "read the
entire document" was checked.

I still only get the first page, though, when opening the PDf document
directly.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Tom, I have noticed that when I open a PDF lately the menu pops up for
opening it and when I tab to where it has a combo box where you choose
either to open whole document or the other is open only first page, the
first page option is now on top and I have to arrow down to open the whole
document.  You might want to tab slowly to check out that choice.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:04 AM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.

 

I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Tom Behler]

Mike:

I'm sorry, but those commands do not work for me here.

Control down arrow does not advance me beyond the first page of the PDF
document.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi Tom

To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  To
move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.

 

I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Mike B.]

Hi Vicki,

I can't get the page to load with either IE or Firefox.  Are you sure the 
URL is correct?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Vicki
To: JAWS
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to take 
a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I need 
it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and 
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the 
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Bissett, Tom]

The page loaded for me but I couldn't find where to select English.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Hi Vicki,

I can't get the page to load with either IE or Firefox.  Are you sure the URL 
is correct?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Vicki
To: JAWS
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to take a 
look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I need it 
slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and 
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the other 
language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Adrian Spratt]

I got the page to load, but couldn't find the option for English.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Hi Vicki,

I can't get the page to load with either IE or Firefox.  Are you sure the URL 
is correct?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Vicki
To: JAWS
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to take a 
look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I need it 
slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and 
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the other 
language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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[JAWS-Users] Audio tutorials.

[Anita E]

Hi list,
Are there audio tutorials available for Jaws or only tx/t HTML?
Thanks,
Anita


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[JAWS-Users] Labeling graphics in wlm 2012

[Russ Kiehne]

I used jaws in the past on a trial bases.  When I arrow up and down in the wlm 
2012 message list, jaws doesn’t speak things like: read, replied to forwarded 
etc.  By chance, does anyone happen to have the file with these graphics 
labeled?  If not, how do I label them?
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[JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail Selecting Contcts

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am a new JAWS user. Using Window-Eyes, when I start typing in the “to” field, 
the field is populated with a list of ossible contacts from which to choose. In 
JAWS 18, this doesn’t work. I must use the Select Contacts button to do this. 
Is this expected behavior for JAWS, or is something wrong?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Gene Warner]

Hi

Although this isn't an answer, it is related. The last time I looked at 
Adobe Reader DC, I disliked it so much that I removed it and went back 
to version 9.5. I had the same reaction when I tried upgrading to Adobe 
Reader X.


Even Reader 9.5 isn't my primary pdf reader, for that I use Q Read. I 
only use Adobe Reader when I need to print or use JAWS convenient OCR's 
document feature on a PDF of page images instead of text. From there I 
save the text to a text file and use notepad or Word to read the file.


Later...



On 5/25/2017 3:06 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Mike:

I'm sorry, but those commands do not work for me here.

Control down arrow does not advance me beyond the first page of the PDF
document.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi Tom

To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  To
move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.



I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.



Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.



Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.



I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.



Any suggestions would be apreciated.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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[JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Gene Warner]

Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to 
switch from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.


As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the 
Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had 
with it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the 
addition of the very useful command search function.


Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the 
engine. From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was 
running into another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out 
wasn't much better.


So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant 
version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how 
it compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it 
recalls, I will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not 
maintaining my SMA anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 
and 18, it seems like most of the enhancements are for Windows 10 and 
have no effect on my Windows 7 system which I have no plans to upgrade. 
If things do change for the better in the future, I can always 
reestablish a new SMA.


I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has 
already preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.


Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Have you tried control page down?

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of 
wayne smith [waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Tom, I have noticed that when I open a PDF lately the menu pops up for
opening it and when I tab to where it has a combo box where you choose
either to open whole document or the other is open only first page, the
first page option is now on top and I have to arrow down to open the whole
document.  You might want to tab slowly to check out that choice.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:04 AM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.



I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.



Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.



Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.



I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.



Any suggestions would be apreciated.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Tom Behler]

Gene and all:

I want to report that I believe I've solved my problem here.

Thanks to a suggestion by Adrian, the strategy of using Convenient OCR to
convert the document, and then copying and pasting into Notepad has
definitely worked the best.

I had to take some time cleaning up the resulting files, but things now
appear to be fairly readable.

Thanks, all,  for your patience as I sorted things out.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi

Although this isn't an answer, it is related. The last time I looked at
Adobe Reader DC, I disliked it so much that I removed it and went back to
version 9.5. I had the same reaction when I tried upgrading to Adobe Reader
X.

Even Reader 9.5 isn't my primary pdf reader, for that I use Q Read. I only
use Adobe Reader when I need to print or use JAWS convenient OCR's document
feature on a PDF of page images instead of text. From there I save the text
to a text file and use notepad or Word to read the file.

Later...



On 5/25/2017 3:06 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
> Mike:
>
> I'm sorry, but those commands do not work for me here.
>
> Control down arrow does not advance me beyond the first page of the 
> PDF document.
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf 
> Articles
>
> Hi Tom
>
> To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  
> To move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
> To: 'Jaws users list'
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf 
> Articles
>
> Hello, everyone.
>
>
>
> I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.
>
>
>
> Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I 
> cannot advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the 
> arrow keys, or the page up and page down keys.
>
>
>
> Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, 
> the visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws 
> appears to be stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through 
> the rest of the file.
>
>
>
> I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with 
> Adobe Acrobat DC.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions would be apreciated.
>
>
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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>
>
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>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Tom Behler]

Yes, I did, with no luck.

However, I've now solved my problem.

See my recent post to the list for details.

Hopefully, the strategy that worked for me will work for others as well.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Have you tried control page down?

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of
wayne smith [waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Tom, I have noticed that when I open a PDF lately the menu pops up for
opening it and when I tab to where it has a combo box where you choose
either to open whole document or the other is open only first page, the
first page option is now on top and I have to arrow down to open the whole
document.  You might want to tab slowly to check out that choice.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:04 AM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.



I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.



Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.



Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.



I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.



Any suggestions would be apreciated.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Miriam Vieni]

I think that perhaps the latest upgrade of 18 may have fixed the issue I
kept having, which was that Jaws periodically disappeared  when I changed
from one window to the next. I may be wrong. I only did the upgrade
yesterday. But it's really expensive to stop paying for those SMA's. The one
for personal use averages out to be $60 a year. Even if you don't use it,
$60 a year is like an insurance plan in case you need a later version. If
you stop paying for them and then need a new version, it will cost a lot
more money.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:26 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch
from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.

As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the Lighthouse
here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with it, it just
worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition of the very
useful command search function.

Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine.
>From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into
another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much
better.

So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant
version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it
compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I
will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA
anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like
most of the enhancements are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my Windows
7 system which I have no plans to upgrade. 
If things do change for the better in the future, I can always reestablish a
new SMA.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already
preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.

Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Mike B.]

Okay, I got it to load, & even after clicking the English link it's not all 
in English.  It sound like English & Italian are both being by Jaws.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Bissett, Tom
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


The page loaded for me but I couldn't find where to select English.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Hi Vicki,

I can't get the page to load with either IE or Firefox.  Are you sure the 
URL is correct?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Vicki
To: JAWS
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to take 
a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I need 
it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and 
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the 
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[net bat66]

   also try control page up and down;
or just page up and down.
all of this depends on the accessibility settings you are useing.
don't ask me how to do it. grin i have to hunt and peck until it does what i 
want it to do.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Mike:

I'm sorry, but those commands do not work for me here.

Control down arrow does not advance me beyond the first page of the PDF
document.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi Tom

To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  To
move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.



I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.



Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.



Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.



I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.



Any suggestions would be apreciated.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Vicki]

Absolutely! I just tried it from this e-mail and it came right up in IE.

Thank you for trying.

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage



Hi Vicki,

I can't get the page to load with either IE or Firefox.  Are you sure the
URL is correct?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Vicki

To: JAWS
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to 
take

a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I 
need

it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Vicki]

I think it's the second graphic down. It isn't a link. If you listen 
carefully, you can tell JAWS is saying English. Right after Italian.



- Original Message - 
From: "Bissett, Tom" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage



The page loaded for me but I couldn't find where to select English.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Hi Vicki,

I can't get the page to load with either IE or Firefox.  Are you sure the 
URL is correct?

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Vicki
To: JAWS
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to 
take a look, feel free.


The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I 
need it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.


That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and 
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the 
other language.


Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.





> http://www.postocd.org/


Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Vicki]

If you have someone look at the screen after clicking English, the screen is 
entirely in English. I thought I heard JAWS trying both languages at once as 
well, but I wasn't certain. Definitely still in the other language, though.


Thanks for checking.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Okay, I got it to load, & even after clicking the English link it's not 
all

in English.  It sound like English & Italian are both being by Jaws.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Bissett, Tom

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


The page loaded for me but I couldn't find where to select English.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Hi Vicki,

I can't get the page to load with either IE or Firefox.  Are you sure the
URL is correct?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Vicki
To: JAWS
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to 
take

a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I 
need

it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene,

Although I have J15 thru J18 on all my computers my main & favorite version 
is J16.  I use J16 about 95% of the time.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: JAWS Users
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16


Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to
switch from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.

As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the
Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had
with it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the
addition of the very useful command search function.

Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the
engine. From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was
running into another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out
wasn't much better.

So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant
version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how
it compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it
recalls, I will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not
maintaining my SMA anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17
and 18, it seems like most of the enhancements are for Windows 10 and
have no effect on my Windows 7 system which I have no plans to upgrade.
If things do change for the better in the future, I can always
reestablish a new SMA.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has
already preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.

Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Daniel MacDonald]

hi Vicki,
I use internet explorer as my default browser. the page is in Italian.
I can tell  because eloquence get's slower and starts speaking
roboticly. when I was a kid, I used to mess around with JAWS languages
back in the JAWS 3.7 update days. I remember what languages sound like
with eloquence. when I press enter on the English link, my fan of my
mac with bootcamp speeds up. whatever the page is, it's processer
intensive at least for me. I tried opening the English page in a new
window thinking that would work, but it was still in Italian in the
new window.
hope this helps,
Daniel


On 5/25/17, Vicki  wrote:
> If you have someone look at the screen after clicking English, the screen is
>
> entirely in English. I thought I heard JAWS trying both languages at once as
>
> well, but I wasn't certain. Definitely still in the other language, though.
>
> Thanks for checking.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike B." 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage
>
>
>> Okay, I got it to load, & even after clicking the English link it's not
>> all
>> in English.  It sound like English & Italian are both being by Jaws.
>> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
>> the
>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Bissett, Tom
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage
>>
>>
>> The page loaded for me but I couldn't find where to select English.
>>
>> Tom Bisset
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mike B.
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:59 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage
>>
>> Hi Vicki,
>>
>> I can't get the page to load with either IE or Firefox.  Are you sure the
>> URL is correct?
>> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
>> the
>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Vicki
>> To: JAWS
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage
>>
>>
>> Good Afternoon,
>>
>> I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.
>>
>> I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to
>> take
>> a look, feel free.
>>
>> The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I
>> need
>> it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.
>>
>> That's not my problem, though.
>>
>> When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page
>> and
>> shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the
>> other language.
>>
>> Why would this happen and how can I fix it?
>>
>> Here is the link.
>>
>> http://www.postocd.org/
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Vicki
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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>
>
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>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[John M.]

Hi Gene,

I have been using Jaws since version 5. Over the years, I have found that 
some versions of Jaws are very good and others are junk. In my opinion, 
version 17 is junk. I had upgraded from Jaws 15 to 17. After the upgrade, I 
had nothing but problems. After several months of struggling, I eventually 
installed version 16 and that is what I am still using today. I tried 
version 18 for a short while, but it was still not as stable and reliable as 
version 16. I am using Windows 7 also. One more thing...I still use Office 
2003, because I just like it a lot. Jaws version 17 support for Office 2003 
was terrible.


I always go back to a saying that I have used for years--"Just because you 
can doesn't mean you should.". Just because there is a new version of 
Windows or Office or Jaws or any other piece of software or hardware, 
doesn't mean you have to rush to install it or purchase it. I rely on my 
computer on a daily basis to do my job and service my clients. I demand that 
my core software is extremely stable and reliable. I have Jaws SMAs through 
version 20. I don't know if I will actually switch to those versions. Time 
will tell.


Best,
John


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 

To: "JAWS Users" 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16



Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch 
from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.


As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the 
Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with 
it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition 
of the very useful command search function.


Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine. 
From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into 
another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much 
better.


So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant 
version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it 
compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I 
will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA 
anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like 
most of the enhancements are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my 
Windows 7 system which I have no plans to upgrade. If things do change for 
the better in the future, I can always reestablish a new SMA.


I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already 
preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.


Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Adrian Spratt]

Gene,

When FS publicizes new features in each annual upgrade, they don't mention what 
I believe are a slew of behind-the-scenes changes they make in order to keep on 
top of developments on the Web. Sometimes I suspect these background 
improvements are what cause a deterioration in performance for some users with 
some websites. It's why many JAWS users keep more than one version on their 
systems. But if you decide to give up your SMA, you will find the Web 
increasingly more difficult to navigate because your old version can't catch 
up. That's been my experience as JAWS has gone from V. 2 to today's V. 18. 

There are always wrinkles. For example, when you install a new version, it will 
share components with any previous versions on your system. It can affect 
performance on the old version, which I've experienced. In fact, even when I've 
uninstalled an old version, decided I wanted it back, then uninstalled the new 
version in order to eliminate shared components, the old version comes back 
with problems associated with those shared components. Perhaps I've failed to 
get rid of all traces, but I won't mess with the registry. Others here do so 
all the time.

I think Miriam's point about the SMA functioning as insurance is a good one. It 
fits in with what I'm saying here. 

Finally, I see no deterioration in performance between JAWS 16 and 18. In the 
past, a JAWS upgrade has made certain websites less easy to navigate, but I 
haven't had that experience in a long time. Moreover, there are so many 
workarounds now, most of all the success many of us have had with turning the 
virtual cursor off in certain situations. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:26 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch from 
Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.

As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the Lighthouse 
here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with it, it just 
worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition of the very 
useful command search function.

Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine. From 
there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into another 
misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much better.

So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant version 
of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it compares to 
version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I will eventually 
uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA anymore. Besides my 
dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like most of the enhancements 
are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my Windows 7 system which I have no 
plans to upgrade. 
If things do change for the better in the future, I can always reestablish a 
new SMA.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already 
preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.

Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws and Outlook

[Cher Bosch]

Try turning preview pane to off, and When using JAWS, the Outlook Reading
Pane must be set to the bottom of the window or disabled. If the Reading
Pane is set to the right, it forces the Message List Headers into Two-line
mode, and only the first line is announced. 

Keep reading for more from the topic.

Cher

This is from the JAWS help topic for Outlook:
Outlook Helpful Hints
The following are some helpful hints for using Outlook with JAWS.

Outlook Reading Pane
When using JAWS, the Outlook Reading Pane must be set to the bottom of the
window or disabled. If the Reading Pane is set to the right, it forces the
Message List Headers into Two-line mode, and only the first line is
announced.

To set the Reading Pane to the bottom of the window, or to disable it, do
the following:

Open Outlook. 
Press ALT+V to choose the View tab (Outlook 2010 or later) or View menu. 
Choose Reading Pane. 
Select Bottom to set the pane to the bottom of the window, or select Off to
disable the reading pane. 
Outlook Options
While working in Outlook, you can press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings and
change JAWS options that are specific to Outlook. For more information on
how to use Quick Settings as well as the standard JAWS options that are not
described in this section, see Quick Settings.

Message Follow-Up Flag Indication
When turned on, JAWS announces if a follow-up flag has been applied to the
selected e-mail message. The default setting is Off.

Message Forwarded Flag Indication
When turned on, JAWS announces if a forward flag has been applied to the
selected e-mail message. The default setting is Off.

Use Virtual Cursor for Read-Only Messages
Use this option to have JAWS render read-only messages in the virtual
buffer. E-mail messages that contain complex tables and formatting are often
difficult to read when using Outlook 2007 or later. This is due to Word
being used to render the HTML content. By default, this setting is enabled
and read-only messages will be rendered in the virtual buffer for ease of
reading. Disable this option if you want to interact directly with the Word
Editor rather than reading the message in the Virtual Buffer.

Address List Auto-Complete Announcement
When you type an e-mail address into the To, CC, or BCC edit boxes, Outlook
searches for matches in your address book and then automatically completes
the entry for you. JAWS will now announce the address that Outlook
automatically inserts into the edit box. To disable this feature, press
INSERT+V, select "Address List Auto-Complete Announcement," and press the
SPACEBAR to choose Off.

Information Bar Messages Announcement
In Outlook, the information bar frequently displays useful status
information. For example, this bar informs you when attachments have been
removed from a message, which account a message will be sent from, when you
last replied to the current message, when the appointment/meeting you are
creating conflicts with an existing appointment, when an appointment time
has passed, and so on. If you want JAWS to automatically announce the
contents of the information bar when reading messages, leave this option set
to On.

Message Header Fields Announce with Message Announcement
If this option is set to On, then JAWS automatically reads the From and
Subject fields when you open a message. If you change this option to Off,
then JAWS does not automatically read this information.

Message Type Announcement
When turned on, JAWS announces the sender's message type, for example, HTML
or Plain Text. The default setting is Off.

Link Count Announcement
If you open an e-mail message containing links and this option is turned on,
JAWS indicates the number of links that appear in the message. The default
setting is On.

Messages Automatically Read
If you want JAWS to automatically read the message body from beginning to
end, change this option to On. If you do not want JAWS to automatically read
the message body after reading the message header, then leave this option
set to Off.

Tip: When reading messages automatically, the cursor may move faster than
JAWS speech. If you stop speech with CTRL, you should press CTRL+HOME to
move to the beginning of the message before continuing to read.

Optimizing Outlook
The following are choices and suggestions for optimizing Outlook options for
use with JAWS:

Calendar
Press CTRL+2 to move to the Calendar view. You can use the folowing
keystrokes to select one of four views:

Day, CTRL+ALT+1 
Work Week, CTRL+ALT+2 
Week, CTRL+ALT+3 
Month, CTRL+ALT+4 
In all views, use LEFT and RIGHT ARROW to move between the days of the
month. In Day, Week, or Work Week view, use UP and DOWN ARROW to move
between the different time slots for the current day. In Month view, use UP
and DOWN ARROW to move through weeks. Press TAB or SHIFT+TAB to cycle
through your appointments for the current day. To open an appointment,
select it and press ENTER. Pressing INSERT+CTRL+D announces the currently
focused date and view in the cal

Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Adrian Spratt]

By the way, I also have a Win7, 64-bit system, along with Office 2010. As John 
says, no need to upgrade for the sake of it. JAWS is one of my rare exceptions 
to the rule.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Gene,

When FS publicizes new features in each annual upgrade, they don't mention what 
I believe are a slew of behind-the-scenes changes they make in order to keep on 
top of developments on the Web. Sometimes I suspect these background 
improvements are what cause a deterioration in performance for some users with 
some websites. It's why many JAWS users keep more than one version on their 
systems. But if you decide to give up your SMA, you will find the Web 
increasingly more difficult to navigate because your old version can't catch 
up. That's been my experience as JAWS has gone from V. 2 to today's V. 18. 

There are always wrinkles. For example, when you install a new version, it will 
share components with any previous versions on your system. It can affect 
performance on the old version, which I've experienced. In fact, even when I've 
uninstalled an old version, decided I wanted it back, then uninstalled the new 
version in order to eliminate shared components, the old version comes back 
with problems associated with those shared components. Perhaps I've failed to 
get rid of all traces, but I won't mess with the registry. Others here do so 
all the time.

I think Miriam's point about the SMA functioning as insurance is a good one. It 
fits in with what I'm saying here. 

Finally, I see no deterioration in performance between JAWS 16 and 18. In the 
past, a JAWS upgrade has made certain websites less easy to navigate, but I 
haven't had that experience in a long time. Moreover, there are so many 
workarounds now, most of all the success many of us have had with turning the 
virtual cursor off in certain situations. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:26 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch from 
Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.

As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the Lighthouse 
here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with it, it just 
worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition of the very 
useful command search function.

Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine. From 
there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into another 
misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much better.

So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant version 
of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it compares to 
version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I will eventually 
uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA anymore. Besides my 
dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like most of the enhancements 
are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my Windows 7 system which I have no 
plans to upgrade. 
If things do change for the better in the future, I can always reestablish a 
new SMA.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already 
preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.

Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Stephen Bennett]

Hi Vikki and List

Have you tried turning off the Language detect feature?

While on the page, open quick settings with JawsKey + V, then type Language
into the search box. Down arrow to the feature and make sure it's turned
off. You can turn it back on later if you need it.

All the Best

S B

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:58 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS. 

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to take
a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I need
it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Judy]

Gene and John, you have given me some very useful information and I thank
  You both. I wonder if Jaws 17 and 18 work better with Windows 10, but I am
still using Win 7 and am happy with it. No plans to upgrade until I have to,
and while considering upgrading my Jaws perhaps in the near future, you have
both convinced me to go with 16.  Judy & Libby
 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Hi Gene,

I have been using Jaws since version 5. Over the years, I have found that 
some versions of Jaws are very good and others are junk. In my opinion, 
version 17 is junk. I had upgraded from Jaws 15 to 17. After the upgrade, I 
had nothing but problems. After several months of struggling, I eventually 
installed version 16 and that is what I am still using today. I tried 
version 18 for a short while, but it was still not as stable and reliable as

version 16. I am using Windows 7 also. One more thing...I still use Office 
2003, because I just like it a lot. Jaws version 17 support for Office 2003 
was terrible.

I always go back to a saying that I have used for years--"Just because you 
can doesn't mean you should.". Just because there is a new version of 
Windows or Office or Jaws or any other piece of software or hardware, 
doesn't mean you have to rush to install it or purchase it. I rely on my 
computer on a daily basis to do my job and service my clients. I demand that

my core software is extremely stable and reliable. I have Jaws SMAs through 
version 20. I don't know if I will actually switch to those versions. Time 
will tell.

Best,
John


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: "JAWS Users" 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16


> Hi everyone!
>
> Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch 
> from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.
>
> As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the 
> Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with 
> it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition

> of the very useful command search function.
>
> Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine.

> From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into 
> another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much 
> better.
>
> So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant 
> version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it 
> compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I 
> will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA 
> anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like

> most of the enhancements are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my 
> Windows 7 system which I have no plans to upgrade. If things do change for

> the better in the future, I can always reestablish a new SMA.
>
> I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already 
> preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Later...
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Steve]

You are.  You can change it to pop under account settings.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dialup@56k" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Actually, I don't think g mail uses POP these days, could be wrong.
But as the Jeff said, IMAP is much more versatile than POP.
Glen


---
On 25-May-2017 12:27 pm, Audiobookfan wrote:
I'm not sure what might be going wrong, but if you want to access your 
mail on both your phone and your computer, you might want to consider 
using IMAP rather than POP3.


Jeff


On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when 
I try to download my Email from Gmail.


Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. 
Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, 
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, 
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18


What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1

Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that 
support

POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real 
time.


POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in 
real

time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or 
Enable

POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter 
mail.domain.com,

then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how 
do I

go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Cher Bosch]

In Adobe, select Edit and then accessibility. Then choose set up assistant.
On about the 4th screen, Set Adobe to open the whole document. This should
solve your problem.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Gene and all:

I want to report that I believe I've solved my problem here.

Thanks to a suggestion by Adrian, the strategy of using Convenient OCR to
convert the document, and then copying and pasting into Notepad has
definitely worked the best.

I had to take some time cleaning up the resulting files, but things now
appear to be fairly readable.

Thanks, all,  for your patience as I sorted things out.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi

Although this isn't an answer, it is related. The last time I looked at
Adobe Reader DC, I disliked it so much that I removed it and went back to
version 9.5. I had the same reaction when I tried upgrading to Adobe Reader
X.

Even Reader 9.5 isn't my primary pdf reader, for that I use Q Read. I only
use Adobe Reader when I need to print or use JAWS convenient OCR's document
feature on a PDF of page images instead of text. From there I save the text
to a text file and use notepad or Word to read the file.

Later...



On 5/25/2017 3:06 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
> Mike:
>
> I'm sorry, but those commands do not work for me here.
>
> Control down arrow does not advance me beyond the first page of the 
> PDF document.
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf 
> Articles
>
> Hi Tom
>
> To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  
> To move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
> To: 'Jaws users list'
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf 
> Articles
>
> Hello, everyone.
>
>
>
> I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.
>
>
>
> Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I 
> cannot advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the 
> arrow keys, or the page up and page down keys.
>
>
>
> Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, 
> the visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws 
> appears to be stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through 
> the rest of the file.
>
>
>
> I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with 
> Adobe Acrobat DC.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions would be apreciated.
>
>
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
It depends on what Windows 10 release one is using. The latest builds of 17
and 18 will work reasonably well with Windows 10 Version 1703 (Creators
Update), although for some, audio ducking in JAWS 18 is somewhat broken when
using latest Windows 10 release.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Gene and John, you have given me some very useful information and I thank
  You both. I wonder if Jaws 17 and 18 work better with Windows 10, but I am
still using Win 7 and am happy with it. No plans to upgrade until I have to,
and while considering upgrading my Jaws perhaps in the near future, you have
both convinced me to go with 16.  Judy & Libby
 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Hi Gene,

I have been using Jaws since version 5. Over the years, I have found that
some versions of Jaws are very good and others are junk. In my opinion,
version 17 is junk. I had upgraded from Jaws 15 to 17. After the upgrade, I
had nothing but problems. After several months of struggling, I eventually
installed version 16 and that is what I am still using today. I tried
version 18 for a short while, but it was still not as stable and reliable as

version 16. I am using Windows 7 also. One more thing...I still use Office
2003, because I just like it a lot. Jaws version 17 support for Office 2003
was terrible.

I always go back to a saying that I have used for years--"Just because you
can doesn't mean you should.". Just because there is a new version of
Windows or Office or Jaws or any other piece of software or hardware,
doesn't mean you have to rush to install it or purchase it. I rely on my
computer on a daily basis to do my job and service my clients. I demand that

my core software is extremely stable and reliable. I have Jaws SMAs through
version 20. I don't know if I will actually switch to those versions. Time
will tell.

Best,
John


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: "JAWS Users" 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16


> Hi everyone!
>
> Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch 
> from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.
>
> As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the 
> Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with 
> it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition

> of the very useful command search function.
>
> Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine.

> From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into 
> another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much 
> better.
>
> So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant 
> version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it 
> compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I 
> will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA 
> anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like

> most of the enhancements are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my 
> Windows 7 system which I have no plans to upgrade. If things do change for

> the better in the future, I can always reestablish a new SMA.
>
> I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already 
> preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Later...
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[Maria Campbell]

Well, I unchecked it, so we'll see what happens.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/25/2017 1:46 PM, net bat66 wrote:

i don't know if this is the same thing.
but in the utility/settings menu. in user there is the option to turn 
on or off a virtual viewer. maybe this is the window overlay you are 
talking about.


-Original Message- From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hi Reed, thanks for letting me know. Same here in the Creators update. 
In this "OverlayWindow0, I tried the Jaws cursor, the touch cursor, 
but it seems like a phantom window. No way that I see to interact with 
this window. I will leave this up to the smart computer technicians. 
After all I am just a pinhead. LOL.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Reed

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hello,



With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window 
list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never 
seen before.


I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other 
random times.


When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells 
me "JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The 
configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."




When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To 
show JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more 
technical information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."




When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,

"Window Technical Information:

Control ID  0

Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C

Handle  983746".

So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class 
real fast.  Bet you can't.




When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on 
this Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.




Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?





Thanks,



Reed

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[JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the 
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line, 
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no 
luck.  Thanks much.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[John Fitzgerald]

Hi,

Your plan sounds good to me, as long as it works for you.   I have a win 7
machine running JAWS 15 and have no plans to upgrade in the hopes of missing
all the headaches with versions 17 and 18.  And like you when my win 7 machine
dies I will probably wind up with a win 10 machine, so for now I'm just trying
to keep what little bit of hair I have left.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:26 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch from
Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.

As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the Lighthouse
here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with it, it just
worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition of the very
useful command search function.

Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine.
>From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into
another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much better.

So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant
version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it
compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I will
eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA anymore.
Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like most of the
enhancements are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my Windows 7 system
which I have no plans to upgrade. 
If things do change for the better in the future, I can always reestablish a
new SMA.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already
preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.

Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail Selecting Contacts

[Hans Pauli Sundstein]

Hi.

Type the beginning of the e-mail address or name into the to-field, and when 
you have typed approxymate 2 to 3 letters, press insert+up arrow, to read 
the selected result from your addressbook.
Is this correct, continue to the subject field, otherwise type more letters 
to the e-mail address or name, untill you with insert+up arrow hear the 
correct receiver of the e-mail.


Hope you'll be lucky with Jaws 18.

Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
Fra: Tom Fairhurst

Dato: 25. maj 2017 18:12
Til: List Jaws
Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail Selecting Contcts

I am a new JAWS user. Using Window-Eyes, when I start typing in the “to” 
field, the field is populated with a list of ossible contacts from which to 
choose. In JAWS 18, this doesn’t work. I must use the Select Contacts button 
to do this. Is this expected behavior for JAWS, or is something wrong?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Mike B.]

Hi Stephen,

I have Language Detection turned off, & it still reads in Italian.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Hi Vikki and List

Have you tried turning off the Language detect feature?

While on the page, open quick settings with JawsKey + V, then type Language
into the search box. Down arrow to the feature and make sure it's turned
off. You can turn it back on later if you need it.

All the Best

S B



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Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:58 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to take
a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I need
it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Adrian Spratt]

Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience 
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than one 
document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a name to 
a new document fixes the other cause.

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Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the 
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line, 
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no luck.  
Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Mike B.]

Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot 
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page 
number.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience 
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than 
one document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a 
name to a new document fixes the other cause.

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the 
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line, 
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no 
luck.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Miriam Vieni]

I am so envious. I tried so hard to keep Office 2003, but Word was somewhat
corrupted and I had to really play around with it  to get it to work
properly part of the time. And then Outlook began producing multiple copies
of emails. I had a patch that was supposed to take care of such problems,
but it stopped. And I was using magic at a very high magnification. My old
Magic wouldn't work with newer versions of Jaws like 16 and the new version
of Magic wouldn't work with Office 2003. So then someone installed new
everything for me. Jaws 18 seems to be a bit better after yesterday's
upgrade. At least I hope it is. But there are certain kinds of html emails
that Jaws did fine with in Outlook 2003, and that, even with all kinds of
work arounds, it's difficult to deal with, with Jaws in later versions of
Office. I retired 10 years ago. Otherwise, I'd be tearing my hair out!

Miriam

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Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Hi Gene,

I have been using Jaws since version 5. Over the years, I have found that
some versions of Jaws are very good and others are junk. In my opinion,
version 17 is junk. I had upgraded from Jaws 15 to 17. After the upgrade, I
had nothing but problems. After several months of struggling, I eventually
installed version 16 and that is what I am still using today. I tried
version 18 for a short while, but it was still not as stable and reliable as
version 16. I am using Windows 7 also. One more thing...I still use Office
2003, because I just like it a lot. Jaws version 17 support for Office 2003
was terrible.

I always go back to a saying that I have used for years--"Just because you
can doesn't mean you should.". Just because there is a new version of
Windows or Office or Jaws or any other piece of software or hardware,
doesn't mean you have to rush to install it or purchase it. I rely on my
computer on a daily basis to do my job and service my clients. I demand that
my core software is extremely stable and reliable. I have Jaws SMAs through
version 20. I don't know if I will actually switch to those versions. Time
will tell.

Best,
John


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: "JAWS Users" 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16


> Hi everyone!
>
> Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch 
> from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.
>
> As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the 
> Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with 
> it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition

> of the very useful command search function.
>
> Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine.

> From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into 
> another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much 
> better.
>
> So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant 
> version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it 
> compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I 
> will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA 
> anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like

> most of the enhancements are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my 
> Windows 7 system which I have no plans to upgrade. If things do change for

> the better in the future, I can always reestablish a new SMA.
>
> I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already 
> preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Later...
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Gene Warner]

Hi

Yeah, I'm finding out that most people that aren't using the latest 
version of JAWS are using version 16, which is encouraging.


I use Windows 7 because I hated the Metro interface Microsoft tried to 
force on us in Windows 8, and because I believe Microsoft is over 
reaching their authority with some of the changes they made in Windows 
10. It's my Computer damn it! And nobody but me has the right to tell me 
what software runs on it! When they restore the user's ability to decide 
which updates get installed on their computers, among other things, then 
I'll consider Windows 10.


I used to have Office XP which I really liked, but gave it to my dad and 
got Office 2007 because I could get it for $10 through my employer. If I 
could have, I'd have gotten 2003 to avoid the ribbons.


So far JAWS 16 is proving to be quite stable, however the dictionary 
manager still keeps crashing when it is first run, I was hoping that 
that was a version 17 and 18 problem that would go away with the switch 
to 16, oh well.


I found out that it gets pricey if you let your SMA lapse, so for $5 a 
month, I'll keep it current even if I don't use those newer versions of 
JAWS.


Later...




On 5/25/2017 4:52 PM, John M. wrote:

Hi Gene,

I have been using Jaws since version 5. Over the years, I have found
that some versions of Jaws are very good and others are junk. In my
opinion, version 17 is junk. I had upgraded from Jaws 15 to 17. After
the upgrade, I had nothing but problems. After several months of
struggling, I eventually installed version 16 and that is what I am
still using today. I tried version 18 for a short while, but it was
still not as stable and reliable as version 16. I am using Windows 7
also. One more thing...I still use Office 2003, because I just like it a
lot. Jaws version 17 support for Office 2003 was terrible.

I always go back to a saying that I have used for years--"Just because
you can doesn't mean you should.". Just because there is a new version
of Windows or Office or Jaws or any other piece of software or hardware,
doesn't mean you have to rush to install it or purchase it. I rely on my
computer on a daily basis to do my job and service my clients. I demand
that my core software is extremely stable and reliable. I have Jaws SMAs
through version 20. I don't know if I will actually switch to those
versions. Time will tell.

Best,
John


- Original Message - From: "Gene Warner" 
To: "JAWS Users" 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16



Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to
switch from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.

As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the
Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had
with it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the
addition of the very useful command search function.

Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the
engine. From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was
running into another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out
wasn't much better.

So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently
recalcitrant version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version
16 to see how it compares to version 18. If it works as well as my
memory of it recalls, I will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and
consider not maintaining my SMA anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction
with versions 17 and 18, it seems like most of the enhancements are
for Windows 10 and have no effect on my Windows 7 system which I have
no plans to upgrade. If things do change for the better in the future,
I can always reestablish a new SMA.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has
already preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.

Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Gene Warner]

Hi!

From what some have said about some web sites being harder to navigate 
with older versions of JAWS, I have decided not to uninstall JAWS 18, it 
just won't be my primary screen reader. I also have NVDA installed for 
those few programs, mostly games written with BGT, that don't play well 
with any version of JAWS. There are also parts of some web sites that 
don't work right with JAWS, for those too I'll switch to NVDA. I don't 
like NVDA as much as I like JAWS, but it does get me around those few 
things that JAWS won't do.


Later...

On 5/25/2017 6:17 PM, John Fitzgerald  wrote:

Hi,

Your plan sounds good to me, as long as it works for you.   I have a win 7
machine running JAWS 15 and have no plans to upgrade in the hopes of missing
all the headaches with versions 17 and 18.  And like you when my win 7 machine
dies I will probably wind up with a win 10 machine, so for now I'm just trying
to keep what little bit of hair I have left.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:26 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch from
Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.

As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the Lighthouse
here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with it, it just
worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition of the very
useful command search function.

Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine.
From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into
another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much better.

So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant
version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it
compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I will
eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA anymore.
Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like most of the
enhancements are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my Windows 7 system
which I have no plans to upgrade.
If things do change for the better in the future, I can always reestablish a
new SMA.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already
preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.

Thanks!

Later...

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[JAWS-Users] Text Selection

[Tom Fairhurst]

Is there a comparable hot key for extended text selection as in other screen 
readers. That is, so one can press Read To End or the PGDN and PGDN to rapidly 
select larger blocks of text, especially in HTML environments?
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[JAWS-Users] utility or app to delete selected gmail messages by keyword

[Marvin Hunkin]

Hi. using windows 10 64 bit pro on a Toshiba satellite pro laptop. Does any
one know if there's an easy way to go and find messages on gmail, then an
easy way to delete all messages permantly. So does any one know of a utlity
or app that will do that. Using firefox, and google chrome.

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Selection

[Mike B.]

Hi Tom,

Take a look at the following:
Selecting / Highlighing text

Selecting a letter/character;  Shift +left arrow selects prior character. 
Shift + right arrow selects next character.

Selecting prior word;  Insert/Jaws key, shift + left arrow or control, 
shift, + left arrow.

Selecting next word;  Insert/Jaws key, shift, + right arrow or control, 
shift, + right arrow.

Selecting text from cursor to beginning of line;  Shift + Home/7 key on 
number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to end of line;  Shift +End/1 on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the end of a document;  Control, shift, + 
end/1 key on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the beginning of a document;  Control, shift, 
+ home/7 key on the number pad.

Selecting more than 1 line of text;  Hold the Shift key down while arrowing 
up or down until you have selected/highlighted the lines you want.

Selecting all text;  Control + A.  This keystroke will select all the text 
in a document no matter the size or length of the document.

to select a page at a time: shift page up or down



From: Marquette, Ed
In fact, the Windows key is employed with a number of fantastic JAWS 
keystrokes.  One which I have come to use on an hourly basis is control plus 
windows plus k to mark a spot in a word document.
One may later jump back to that spot instantly with just windows plus k; 
however, even more cool is the ability, in Word, to mark text from your 
cursor to the marked spot, and it doesn't matter whether, in the document, 
your cursor is ahead of the marked spot or behind it or whether it is 4 
words or 40 pages away.  You mark text back to the marked spot with JAWS key 
plus space bar and then m.
Then, you can use control c to copy or control x to cut or windows c to 
append.
Try it!  You'll like it!
Ed

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From: Tom Fairhurst
To: List Jaws
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:18 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Text Selection


Is there a comparable hot key for extended text selection as in other screen 
readers. That is, so one can press Read To End or the PGDN and PGDN to 
rapidly select larger blocks of text, especially in HTML environments?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Mike B.]

Hi Adrian,

I'm sorry I meant line number, & not page number!  How do I get Jaws to read 
which line number that I'm on?  For example, if I'm on line 46 out of 200 
lines in the document, how do I get Jaws to report that line number?  Thanks 
much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Mike B.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page
number.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than
one document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a
name to a new document fixes the other cause.

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line,
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no
luck.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Cheng Kwang Kwa]

Insert delete.

Get Outlook for iOS

From: JAWS-Users-List  on behalf of 
Mike B. 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:08:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

I'm sorry I meant line number, & not page number!  How do I get Jaws to read
which line number that I'm on?  For example, if I'm on line 46 out of 200
lines in the document, how do I get Jaws to report that line number?  Thanks
much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Mike B.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page
number.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than
one document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a
name to a new document fixes the other cause.

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line,
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no
luck.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws and Outlook

[Blake]

Hi Cher,

Both the reading pane and preview pane are off.

All other screen readers see and read the message body column I have in this
listview.  I also have visual confirmation that this column does exist.  It
is on the screen.  It appears that Jaws is not seeing this column at all.

I will check out some of the other settings you have and see if they help.

Thank you.

Blake

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws and Outlook

Try turning preview pane to off, and When using JAWS, the Outlook Reading
Pane must be set to the bottom of the window or disabled. If the Reading
Pane is set to the right, it forces the Message List Headers into Two-line
mode, and only the first line is announced. 

Keep reading for more from the topic.

Cher

This is from the JAWS help topic for Outlook:
Outlook Helpful Hints
The following are some helpful hints for using Outlook with JAWS.

Outlook Reading Pane
When using JAWS, the Outlook Reading Pane must be set to the bottom of the
window or disabled. If the Reading Pane is set to the right, it forces the
Message List Headers into Two-line mode, and only the first line is
announced.

To set the Reading Pane to the bottom of the window, or to disable it, do
the following:

Open Outlook. 
Press ALT+V to choose the View tab (Outlook 2010 or later) or View menu. 
Choose Reading Pane. 
Select Bottom to set the pane to the bottom of the window, or select Off to
disable the reading pane. 
Outlook Options
While working in Outlook, you can press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings and
change JAWS options that are specific to Outlook. For more information on
how to use Quick Settings as well as the standard JAWS options that are not
described in this section, see Quick Settings.

Message Follow-Up Flag Indication
When turned on, JAWS announces if a follow-up flag has been applied to the
selected e-mail message. The default setting is Off.

Message Forwarded Flag Indication
When turned on, JAWS announces if a forward flag has been applied to the
selected e-mail message. The default setting is Off.

Use Virtual Cursor for Read-Only Messages Use this option to have JAWS
render read-only messages in the virtual buffer. E-mail messages that
contain complex tables and formatting are often difficult to read when using
Outlook 2007 or later. This is due to Word being used to render the HTML
content. By default, this setting is enabled and read-only messages will be
rendered in the virtual buffer for ease of reading. Disable this option if
you want to interact directly with the Word Editor rather than reading the
message in the Virtual Buffer.

Address List Auto-Complete Announcement
When you type an e-mail address into the To, CC, or BCC edit boxes, Outlook
searches for matches in your address book and then automatically completes
the entry for you. JAWS will now announce the address that Outlook
automatically inserts into the edit box. To disable this feature, press
INSERT+V, select "Address List Auto-Complete Announcement," and press 
INSERT+the
SPACEBAR to choose Off.

Information Bar Messages Announcement
In Outlook, the information bar frequently displays useful status
information. For example, this bar informs you when attachments have been
removed from a message, which account a message will be sent from, when you
last replied to the current message, when the appointment/meeting you are
creating conflicts with an existing appointment, when an appointment time
has passed, and so on. If you want JAWS to automatically announce the
contents of the information bar when reading messages, leave this option set
to On.

Message Header Fields Announce with Message Announcement If this option is
set to On, then JAWS automatically reads the From and Subject fields when
you open a message. If you change this option to Off, then JAWS does not
automatically read this information.

Message Type Announcement
When turned on, JAWS announces the sender's message type, for example, HTML
or Plain Text. The default setting is Off.

Link Count Announcement
If you open an e-mail message containing links and this option is turned on,
JAWS indicates the number of links that appear in the message. The default
setting is On.

Messages Automatically Read
If you want JAWS to automatically read the message body from beginning to
end, change this option to On. If you do not want JAWS to automatically read
the message body after reading the message header, then leave this option
set to Off.

Tip: When reading messages automatically, the cursor may move faster than
JAWS speech. If you stop speech with CTRL, you should press CTRL+HOME to
move to the beginning of the message before continuing to read.

Optimizing Outlook
The following are choices and suggestions for optimizing Outlook options for
use with JAWS:

Calendar
Press CTRL

Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Mike B.]

That's it!  LOL  Thank you, thank you!

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Cheng Kwang Kwa
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Insert delete.

Get Outlook for iOS

From: JAWS-Users-List  on behalf of 
Mike B. 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:08:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

I'm sorry I meant line number, & not page number!  How do I get Jaws to read
which line number that I'm on?  For example, if I'm on line 46 out of 200
lines in the document, how do I get Jaws to report that line number?  Thanks
much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Mike B.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page
number.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than
one document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a
name to a new document fixes the other cause.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line,
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no
luck.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Selection

[Adrian Spratt]

Note that all these commands are Windows, not screenreader, commands, except to 
the extent that JAWS uses the numpad to duplicate certain keys.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Selection

Hi Tom,

Take a look at the following:
Selecting / Highlighing text

Selecting a letter/character;  Shift +left arrow selects prior character. 
Shift + right arrow selects next character.

Selecting prior word;  Insert/Jaws key, shift + left arrow or control, shift, + 
left arrow.

Selecting next word;  Insert/Jaws key, shift, + right arrow or control, shift, 
+ right arrow.

Selecting text from cursor to beginning of line;  Shift + Home/7 key on number 
pad.

Selecting text from cursor to end of line;  Shift +End/1 on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the end of a document;  Control, shift, +
end/1 key on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the beginning of a document;  Control, shift, 
+ home/7 key on the number pad.

Selecting more than 1 line of text;  Hold the Shift key down while arrowing up 
or down until you have selected/highlighted the lines you want.

Selecting all text;  Control + A.  This keystroke will select all the text in a 
document no matter the size or length of the document.

to select a page at a time: shift page up or down



From: Marquette, Ed
In fact, the Windows key is employed with a number of fantastic JAWS 
keystrokes.  One which I have come to use on an hourly basis is control plus 
windows plus k to mark a spot in a word document.
One may later jump back to that spot instantly with just windows plus k; 
however, even more cool is the ability, in Word, to mark text from your cursor 
to the marked spot, and it doesn't matter whether, in the document, your cursor 
is ahead of the marked spot or behind it or whether it is 4 words or 40 pages 
away.  You mark text back to the marked spot with JAWS key plus space bar and 
then m.
Then, you can use control c to copy or control x to cut or windows c to append.
Try it!  You'll like it!
Ed

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Tom Fairhurst
To: List Jaws
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:18 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Text Selection


Is there a comparable hot key for extended text selection as in other screen 
readers. That is, so one can press Read To End or the PGDN and PGDN to rapidly 
select larger blocks of text, especially in HTML environments?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Adrian Spratt]

As you now know, Word has two status lines. I hadn't realized this was what you 
were seeking. I can see how this would drive you nuts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot 
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page number. 
 Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience 
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than one 
document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a name to 
a new document fixes the other cause.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the 
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line, 
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no luck.  
Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Justin Williams]

You have to het f6, then you can hit right arrow and read the page number on
the status line on the bottom if insert page down does not work.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

As you now know, Word has two status lines. I hadn't realized this was what
you were seeking. I can see how this would drive you nuts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page
number.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than
one document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a
name to a new document fixes the other cause.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line,
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no
luck.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Justin. I wonder if this is for a version of Word later than 2010. I 
just tried this method with 2010. It doesn't work at all when I press F6 just 
once. When I press it twice, I get word count and page number, but not line 
number. A third press of F6 doesn't add anything. Which version of Word are you 
using?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

You have to het f6, then you can hit right arrow and read the page number on 
the status line on the bottom if insert page down does not work.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

As you now know, Word has two status lines. I hadn't realized this was what you 
were seeking. I can see how this would drive you nuts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot 
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page number. 
 Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience 
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than one 
document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a name to 
a new document fixes the other cause.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the 
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line, 
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no luck.  
Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Justin Williams]

Okay, that's what I meant, you get word count and page number.  I thought
you guys were looking for both.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Thanks, Justin. I wonder if this is for a version of Word later than 2010. I
just tried this method with 2010. It doesn't work at all when I press F6
just once. When I press it twice, I get word count and page number, but not
line number. A third press of F6 doesn't add anything. Which version of Word
are you using?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

You have to het f6, then you can hit right arrow and read the page number on
the status line on the bottom if insert page down does not work.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

As you now know, Word has two status lines. I hadn't realized this was what
you were seeking. I can see how this would drive you nuts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page
number.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than
one document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a
name to a new document fixes the other cause.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line,
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no
luck.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Justin Williams]

I got mixed up.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Thanks, Justin. I wonder if this is for a version of Word later than 2010. I
just tried this method with 2010. It doesn't work at all when I press F6
just once. When I press it twice, I get word count and page number, but not
line number. A third press of F6 doesn't add anything. Which version of Word
are you using?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

You have to het f6, then you can hit right arrow and read the page number on
the status line on the bottom if insert page down does not work.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

As you now know, Word has two status lines. I hadn't realized this was what
you were seeking. I can see how this would drive you nuts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page
number.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than
one document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a
name to a new document fixes the other cause.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line,
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no
luck.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Adrian Spratt]

Not to worry. You're trying to help. I've also been mixed up on this list.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

I got mixed up.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Thanks, Justin. I wonder if this is for a version of Word later than 2010. I 
just tried this method with 2010. It doesn't work at all when I press F6 just 
once. When I press it twice, I get word count and page number, but not line 
number. A third press of F6 doesn't add anything. Which version of Word are you 
using?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

You have to het f6, then you can hit right arrow and read the page number on 
the status line on the bottom if insert page down does not work.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

As you now know, Word has two status lines. I hadn't realized this was what you 
were seeking. I can see how this would drive you nuts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot 
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page number. 
 Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience 
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than one 
document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a name to 
a new document fixes the other cause.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the 
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line, 
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no luck.  
Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

[Mike B.]

Hi Justin,

Hell, no problem!  That's my life in a nutshell!  LOL  LOL
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Justin Williams
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


I got mixed up.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Thanks, Justin. I wonder if this is for a version of Word later than 2010. I
just tried this method with 2010. It doesn't work at all when I press F6
just once. When I press it twice, I get word count and page number, but not
line number. A third press of F6 doesn't add anything. Which version of Word
are you using?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

You have to het f6, then you can hit right arrow and read the page number on
the status line on the bottom if insert page down does not work.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

As you now know, Word has two status lines. I hadn't realized this was what
you were seeking. I can see how this would drive you nuts.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi Adrian,

Thanks much!  Control, Shift, + G, gives me the line number along with a lot
more.  No matter what I do I can't get the status line to read the page
number.  Thanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number


Mike,

For word count, press control-shift-g.

As for the status line not reading a line number, I occasionally experience
this when either Outlook 2010 or JAWS gets tired or when I have more than
one document open. A reboot overcomes the exhaustion factor, while giving a
name to a new document fixes the other cause.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 & Line Number

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Jaws 16, & Word 2010.  Would someone please tell me the
keystroke that gives word count & line number?  I'm reading the status line,
but I'm not getting a line number.  I've tried changing schemes with no
luck.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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