Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
Well, yes, and I'm not fighting or even being snappy. I know there are a lot of messages and ... tha'ts part of the problem. I see this kind of thing on message boards all the time, too, where people try to start new threads to discuss something that's already being discussed (on the first page even) because they don't read the stuff that's already there. Anyway, hopefully we are all done with this now for the rest of the year. Haha -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 1:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. Just so the fighting has stopped is my main concern. It probably has gone on long enough, this is true. One problem might be that everybody does not review all messages. Oh more is the pity. -Original Message- From: JM Casey Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. I'm not slagging any person in this thread and certainly not Rose, who has been really forthcoming and helpful to those in doubt/with questions, but this thread is getting so incredibly long and repetitive because some people just don't seem to read all the messages in it. I don't know how often this question about the ribbons has been asked in the last five days or so, and how many people have writtten in, sometimes multiple times, explaining how to turn them on, off; how to know if they are already on or off, explaing to everyone else that you can use them or nont use them as you like and it's no damn difference to them, and so on, and so on. I think a moderator already asked this: Can we please put this topic to rest now? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. If you use the setup wizard you will have a choice to turn it on or leave it off. Also under quick setting, insert V, it will let you know its status, pressing spacebar on that setting will toggle it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. How would one know if the ribbon or the virtual ribbon is in use? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. Hi Dave, you are wrong, I never said a blind person must use the Jaws virtual ribbons. They can use them or not use them, this is a personal choice. However, in my opinion, I think they would benefit, from using the Jaws virtual ribbons. You are the only person being dogmatic about not using the Jaws virtual ribbons. Let all members try using or not using the Jaws virtual ribbons for themselves. Quit putting words in my mouth. I said, in my humble opinion, I think new Jaws users would benefit from using the Jaws virtual ribbons and its simple layout, in all the office 365 products. So, seems to be your way or the highway. Why don't you give the virtual ribbons a try yourself? Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave ... Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 3:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. Rose, Agree completely. It's fine for folks to tell of their experience with a particular feature, but to insist that a particular method is best for a blind person seems to be dogmatic. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 08:36 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. I am not sighted either, however, not being able to avail myself of frequently used shortcut keys I have known since Word 97 is the reason I turn off or never turn on this Jaws Feature. Your mileage may vary which is why I suggest anyone interested try each and do what feels best to them. For newbies they are probably just made to order, but for me and many like me, not having the ability to use key commands we have used from Word 97 forward is a definite disadvantage. Individuals need to make informed choices and choose options to their tastes, to tell them they must use something or cannot use something else when Jaws has so many options seems counterproductive. I turn off keyboard echo when typing, have for years, and using
Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
Just so the fighting has stopped is my main concern. It probably has gone on long enough, this is true. One problem might be that everybody does not review all messages. Oh more is the pity. -Original Message- From: JM Casey Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. I'm not slagging any person in this thread and certainly not Rose, who has been really forthcoming and helpful to those in doubt/with questions, but this thread is getting so incredibly long and repetitive because some people just don't seem to read all the messages in it. I don't know how often this question about the ribbons has been asked in the last five days or so, and how many people have writtten in, sometimes multiple times, explaining how to turn them on, off; how to know if they are already on or off, explaing to everyone else that you can use them or nont use them as you like and it's no damn difference to them, and so on, and so on. I think a moderator already asked this: Can we please put this topic to rest now? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. If you use the setup wizard you will have a choice to turn it on or leave it off. Also under quick setting, insert V, it will let you know its status, pressing spacebar on that setting will toggle it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. How would one know if the ribbon or the virtual ribbon is in use? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. Hi Dave, you are wrong, I never said a blind person must use the Jaws virtual ribbons. They can use them or not use them, this is a personal choice. However, in my opinion, I think they would benefit, from using the Jaws virtual ribbons. You are the only person being dogmatic about not using the Jaws virtual ribbons. Let all members try using or not using the Jaws virtual ribbons for themselves. Quit putting words in my mouth. I said, in my humble opinion, I think new Jaws users would benefit from using the Jaws virtual ribbons and its simple layout, in all the office 365 products. So, seems to be your way or the highway. Why don't you give the virtual ribbons a try yourself? Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave ... Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 3:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. Rose, Agree completely. It's fine for folks to tell of their experience with a particular feature, but to insist that a particular method is best for a blind person seems to be dogmatic. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 08:36 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. I am not sighted either, however, not being able to avail myself of frequently used shortcut keys I have known since Word 97 is the reason I turn off or never turn on this Jaws Feature. Your mileage may vary which is why I suggest anyone interested try each and do what feels best to them. For newbies they are probably just made to order, but for me and many like me, not having the ability to use key commands we have used from Word 97 forward is a definite disadvantage. Individuals need to make informed choices and choose options to their tastes, to tell them they must use something or cannot use something else when Jaws has so many options seems counterproductive. I turn off keyboard echo when typing, have for years, and using Word echo drives me crazy also but I'd never tell anyone out there they needed to work the same way I work. I am totally annoyed with a new version of Jaws when it is set at defaults to hear space every time I space, it is one of the first keys I mute even if I switch the keyboard echo off. However, I hate hearing the space, and I turn off echo because it does not keep up with my typing speed but I'd never tell any of you to work the same way I work. Same goes for the ribbons issues, try working both ways if interested and decide which works for you, not your mate, not your coworker but for you. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.co
Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
I'm not slagging any person in this thread and certainly not Rose, who has been really forthcoming and helpful to those in doubt/with questions, but this thread is getting so incredibly long and repetitive because some people just don't seem to read all the messages in it. I don't know how often this question about the ribbons has been asked in the last five days or so, and how many people have writtten in, sometimes multiple times, explaining how to turn them on, off; how to know if they are already on or off, explaing to everyone else that you can use them or nont use them as you like and it's no damn difference to them, and so on, and so on. I think a moderator already asked this: Can we please put this topic to rest now? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. If you use the setup wizard you will have a choice to turn it on or leave it off. Also under quick setting, insert V, it will let you know its status, pressing spacebar on that setting will toggle it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. How would one know if the ribbon or the virtual ribbon is in use? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. Hi Dave, you are wrong, I never said a blind person must use the Jaws virtual ribbons. They can use them or not use them, this is a personal choice. However, in my opinion, I think they would benefit, from using the Jaws virtual ribbons. You are the only person being dogmatic about not using the Jaws virtual ribbons. Let all members try using or not using the Jaws virtual ribbons for themselves. Quit putting words in my mouth. I said, in my humble opinion, I think new Jaws users would benefit from using the Jaws virtual ribbons and its simple layout, in all the office 365 products. So, seems to be your way or the highway. Why don't you give the virtual ribbons a try yourself? Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave ... Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 3:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. Rose, Agree completely. It's fine for folks to tell of their experience with a particular feature, but to insist that a particular method is best for a blind person seems to be dogmatic. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 08:36 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. I am not sighted either, however, not being able to avail myself of frequently used shortcut keys I have known since Word 97 is the reason I turn off or never turn on this Jaws Feature. Your mileage may vary which is why I suggest anyone interested try each and do what feels best to them. For newbies they are probably just made to order, but for me and many like me, not having the ability to use key commands we have used from Word 97 forward is a definite disadvantage. Individuals need to make informed choices and choose options to their tastes, to tell them they must use something or cannot use something else when Jaws has so many options seems counterproductive. I turn off keyboard echo when typing, have for years, and using Word echo drives me crazy also but I'd never tell anyone out there they needed to work the same way I work. I am totally annoyed with a new version of Jaws when it is set at defaults to hear space every time I space, it is one of the first keys I mute even if I switch the keyboard echo off. However, I hate hearing the space, and I turn off echo because it does not keep up with my typing speed but I'd never tell any of you to work the same way I work. Same goes for the ribbons issues, try working both ways if interested and decide which works for you, not your mate, not your coworker but for you. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .. Yes, I guess that explains why you don't use the Jaws virtual ribbons. I can see where you were trying to interact with the sited computer users where you worked. That's fine and understandable. But what I am t
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Outlook: Jaws doesn't say unread
Hi Morne, The problem, as you were told, is that the Outlook reading pane which displays the message at the side of the message list is turned on by default. You can change the option Tom said, or more convenient in my opinion, turn off the reading pane completely. This seems me more convenient because the navigation becomes faster when Outlook stop processing each e-mail in which you navigate to in the background. To disable the reading pane go to the View tab and, in the Layout group, press SPACEBAR in the Reading Pane option. In the drop-down menu which is opened, choose Off. I can't tell you the exact access keys for quickly accessing this item because thei're different in English compared to Spanish Outlook which I use, but the Helpful Hints section on the JAWS help topic for Outlook these keys are indicated, despite that I'm sure of the names I mentioned if you want to run through the ribbon. Hope it helps! 2017-08-24 14:08 GMT-03:00 Morne van der Merwe : > Hello listers, > > > > Latest version of jfw and Outlook 2013. > > > > I'm not sure if this is a jwf issue, however, I will still ask. > > > > When I open Outlook, jaws says "unread) when standing on a specific > message. > When I navigate away from the message, and return to it, jaws doesn't say > "unread" anymore. It is as if the message has been read, although I didn't > physicaly open the message at all. Is there a way that a message can remain > unread until I open it? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards > > Morne > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
