Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook Express is back? You bet it is!!!!

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett
You have to subscribe online at: 
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On 9/22/2017 4:38 PM, Tammy wrote:

How do you subscribe to that list?
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook Express is back? You bet it is

Thought I would pass this along. :)
  From Harry on another list:
Hi all,

  From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express
version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!

I did not know it is still around!!!

If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at

http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html

I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The volume is
low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!

So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the downloads
page!

There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!

Harry


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett
Cant you just pull the OE scripts out of 16 and add them to 18? The 
scripts themselves arent version specific are they?
From what I have read writing scripts is the same no matter what 
version of Jaws you are running.On 9/22/2017 6:47 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Loy,

Using Jaws 16 with OE will probably give you your best results because they
stripped out all OE scripts with the later versions of Jaws.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Loy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


I believe this is a different version because I have tried two different
downloads in the past and one I paid for but neither of them was very
accessible. But this one work just as it did when it was included in old
versions of Windows. I am using the latest version of Win 10 and Window
Eyes. I also have tried it with JAWS.  I plan on using it because it is
simple and does just what I needed in an email client.
   - Original Message -
   From: Steve
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:27 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


   Yeah, it's been out for probably four years from the website
   Http://www.runasxp.com

   I don't know if the whitestick site uses that same program, if it does, I
   wonder if it is pirated.  The RunAsXp site had a nominal charge for their
   version of OE which I've used for the past three years.

   Steve
   - Original Message -
   From: "Randy Barnett" 
   To: 
   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:44 PM
   Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


   > Thought I would pass this on:
   >
   > From Harry on another list:
   >
   >
   > Hi all,
   >
   > From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express
   > version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!
   >
   > I did not know it is still around!!!
   >
   > If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at
   >
   > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
   >
   > I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The
volume
   > is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!
   >
   > So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the
downloads
   > page!
   >
   > There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!
   >
   > Harry
   >
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!

2017-09-22 Thread Andy Baracco
Actually, the latest version of JAWS works quite well with OE but you will 
need to label the graphics in the message list, i. e. read/unread, 
attachment, etc.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!



Did you mean jaws15?

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On September 22, 2017 10:26:06 PM "Mike B."  wrote:


Hi Loy,

Using Jaws 16 with OE will probably give you your best results because 
they

stripped out all OE scripts with the later versions of Jaws.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Loy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


I believe this is a different version because I have tried two different
downloads in the past and one I paid for but neither of them was very
accessible. But this one work just as it did when it was included in old
versions of Windows. I am using the latest version of Win 10 and Window
Eyes. I also have tried it with JAWS.  I plan on using it because it is
simple and does just what I needed in an email client.
  - Original Message -
  From: Steve
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


  Yeah, it's been out for probably four years from the website
  Http://www.runasxp.com

  I don't know if the whitestick site uses that same program, if it does, 
I
  wonder if it is pirated.  The RunAsXp site had a nominal charge for 
their

  version of OE which I've used for the past three years.

  Steve
  - Original Message -
  From: "Randy Barnett" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:44 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


  > Thought I would pass this on:
  >
  > From Harry on another list:
  >
  >
  > Hi all,
  >
  > From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express
  > version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!
  >
  > I did not know it is still around!!!
  >
  > If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at
  >
  > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
  >
  > I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The
volume
  > is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!
  >
  > So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the
downloads
  > page!
  >
  > There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!
  >
  > Harry
  >
  >VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List.
  > Archived on the World Wide Web at
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!

2017-09-22 Thread Dennis Long
Did you mean jaws15?

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On September 22, 2017 10:26:06 PM "Mike B."  wrote:

> Hi Loy,
>
> Using Jaws 16 with OE will probably give you your best results because they
> stripped out all OE scripts with the later versions of Jaws.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Loy
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!
>
>
> I believe this is a different version because I have tried two different
> downloads in the past and one I paid for but neither of them was very
> accessible. But this one work just as it did when it was included in old
> versions of Windows. I am using the latest version of Win 10 and Window
> Eyes. I also have tried it with JAWS.  I plan on using it because it is
> simple and does just what I needed in an email client.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Steve
>   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:27 PM
>   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!
>
>
>   Yeah, it's been out for probably four years from the website
>   Http://www.runasxp.com
>
>   I don't know if the whitestick site uses that same program, if it does, I
>   wonder if it is pirated.  The RunAsXp site had a nominal charge for their
>   version of OE which I've used for the past three years.
>
>   Steve
>   - Original Message -
>   From: "Randy Barnett" 
>   To: 
>   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:44 PM
>   Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!
>
>
>   > Thought I would pass this on:
>   >
>   > From Harry on another list:
>   >
>   >
>   > Hi all,
>   >
>   > From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express
>   > version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!
>   >
>   > I did not know it is still around!!!
>   >
>   > If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at
>   >
>   > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
>   >
>   > I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The
> volume
>   > is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!
>   >
>   > So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the
> downloads
>   > page!
>   >
>   > There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!
>   >
>   > Harry
>   >
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!

2017-09-22 Thread Mike B.
Hi Loy,

Using Jaws 16 with OE will probably give you your best results because they 
stripped out all OE scripts with the later versions of Jaws.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Loy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


I believe this is a different version because I have tried two different 
downloads in the past and one I paid for but neither of them was very 
accessible. But this one work just as it did when it was included in old 
versions of Windows. I am using the latest version of Win 10 and Window 
Eyes. I also have tried it with JAWS.  I plan on using it because it is 
simple and does just what I needed in an email client.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


  Yeah, it's been out for probably four years from the website
  Http://www.runasxp.com

  I don't know if the whitestick site uses that same program, if it does, I
  wonder if it is pirated.  The RunAsXp site had a nominal charge for their
  version of OE which I've used for the past three years.

  Steve
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Randy Barnett" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:44 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


  > Thought I would pass this on:
  >
  > From Harry on another list:
  >
  >
  > Hi all,
  >
  > From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express
  > version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!
  >
  > I did not know it is still around!!!
  >
  > If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at
  >
  > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
  >
  > I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The 
volume
  > is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!
  >
  > So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the 
downloads
  > page!
  >
  > There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!
  >
  > Harry
  >
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!

2017-09-22 Thread Loy
I believe this is a different version because I have tried two different 
downloads in the past and one I paid for but neither of them was very 
accessible. But this one work just as it did when it was included in old 
versions of Windows. I am using the latest version of Win 10 and Window Eyes. I 
also have tried it with JAWS.  I plan on using it because it is simple and does 
just what I needed in an email client.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


  Yeah, it's been out for probably four years from the website
  Http://www.runasxp.com

  I don't know if the whitestick site uses that same program, if it does, I 
  wonder if it is pirated.  The RunAsXp site had a nominal charge for their 
  version of OE which I've used for the past three years.

  Steve
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Randy Barnett" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:44 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


  > Thought I would pass this on:
  >
  > From Harry on another list:
  >
  >
  > Hi all,
  >
  > From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express 
  > version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!
  >
  > I did not know it is still around!!!
  >
  > If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at
  >
  > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
  >
  > I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The volume 
  > is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!
  >
  > So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the downloads 
  > page!
  >
  > There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!
  >
  > Harry
  >
  >VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook Express is back? You bet it is!!!!

2017-09-22 Thread Tammy
How do you subscribe to that list?
Thanks!

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook Express is back? You bet it is

Thought I would pass this along. :)
 From Harry on another list:
Hi all,

 From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express
version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!

I did not know it is still around!!!

If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at

http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html

I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The volume is
low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!

So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the downloads
page!

There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!

Harry


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!

2017-09-22 Thread Steve

Yeah, it's been out for probably four years from the website
Http://www.runasxp.com

I don't know if the whitestick site uses that same program, if it does, I 
wonder if it is pirated.  The RunAsXp site had a nominal charge for their 
version of OE which I've used for the past three years.


Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Barnett" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!



Thought I would pass this on:

From Harry on another list:


Hi all,

From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express 
version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!


I did not know it is still around!!!

If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at

http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html

I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The volume 
is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!


So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the downloads 
page!


There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!

Harry

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[JAWS-Users] outlook Express is back? You bet it is!!!!

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett

Thought I would pass this along. :)
From Harry on another list:
Hi all,

From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express
version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!

I did not know it is still around!!!

If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at

http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html

I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The
volume is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!

So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the
downloads page!

There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!

Harry


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[JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett

Thought I would pass this on:

From Harry on another list:


Hi all,

From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express 
version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!


I did not know it is still around!!!

If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at

http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html

I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The 
volume is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!


So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the 
downloads page!


There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!

Harry

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Inquiry

2017-09-22 Thread jyandt.martin

Thanks Mike. I am not up on all of the techno lingo.
"I must be a good problem solver. Whenever someone asks for my advice on a 
problem, I give it; and they never come back." Gracey Allen


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Inquiry

Hi Jerry,

Let's say that you're running the latest version / build of Jaws 17, which
is, J17.0.2729enu-x64.  The version is 17, & the build is, .0.2729, the X64
is for a 64 bit system, if it says X86, that would mean it's for a 32 bit
system.  If you have Jaws running from the system tray press, Jaws key + J,
then press the letter, A, to hear the Jaws version / build.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 8:48 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Inquiry


Morning all.

I have Jaws 17, windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Can anyone tell me how to find
out what build of Jaws I have, or is that just jaws speak for whatever
version I have? Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett
I disagree. There is alot that goes on in the bios and this is specific 
to each brand. also choices in hardware can make a big difference in how 
well a system works. Otherwise you would just buy the cheapest one you 
could find and it would be fine.
I have owned Quantex, Gateway,Dell, HP, Asus, Sony, Lanovo, Alienware 
and built PCs with Asus, Gigabyte, Azroc, Foxcon, MSI, Micro and others 
I cant remember.

They all had quirks and benifits to each. Never liked HP.
On 9/22/2017 11:36 AM, Steve wrote:
It really has nothing to do with the manufacturer of a laptop.  I have 
owned three HP laptops over the years; as well as Acer and Averatec's.


For the most part, a laptop is a laptop; they mainly vary in how the 
keyboard is layed out.


*CONSIDERATIONS*

Most manufactuers install a lot of "bloatware" on the laptop. When you 
got it, did you get rid of all that extra crap?

You could start with a program like PC DeCrapifier.

Have you made sure you don't have conflicting anti-virus programs 
running? Again, a lot of manufacturers include trial anti-virus 
programs.  Uninstall them if you're not going to use that particular 
one; most of them supply McAfee or Symantek.


Third, look at your bootup programs.  Open the Msconfig program and go 
to that list.  Uncheck things you don't need to necessarily run at 
start-up. Many programs that you install think they need to run at 
start-up, it isn't wholely necessary.  Example: you don't really need 
Dropbox or Microsoft Office etc. running at startup. You do, of 
course, want your anti-virus, various windows services, and of course, 
Jaws to run.



As somebody else mentioned, you can find websites to help you identify 
programs and/or processes that you can then consider not being necessary.


After you make adjustments in your MsConfig file, you need to enable 
"selective startup" so that only those items you designated will run 
at start-up.


As somebody else mentioned, if you had a dual-boot setup, you will 
have a delay that they specified so you can choose which operating 
system you wanted to start with.


It may also make a difference if you have a regular disk drive (not a 
solidstate drive), to clean it (get rid of unnecessary and temporary 
files), then take a look at the defragmentation report to see if you c 
ould gain some efficiencies by de-fragging your disk.


This won't affect boot-up times, but it will speed up your access.  
When you shutdown, you could choose to put your laptop in Sleep mode 
rather than completely shutting it down.  This will put your currently 
open programs and windows into memory, so that when you wake it up, 
all you need to do is enter your password and you'd be up and running 
again.


And, as a last resort, sometimes you just get so much garbage in the 
installation of windows and programs, that just doing a clean 
re-install of windows and restoring your programs and files after that 
would be an option. To me, it's a pain in the butt, so the slow 
boot-up times would really have to bother me to do that.

- Original Message - From: "cheez" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a 
friend of mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP 
laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - From: "David Pearson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went 
from window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives 
me nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 
seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows 
zero, overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said 
"Jaws home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something 
to be

concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Steve
It really has nothing to do with the manufacturer of a laptop.  I have owned 
three HP laptops over the years; as well as Acer and Averatec's.


For the most part, a laptop is a laptop; they mainly vary in how the 
keyboard is layed out.


*CONSIDERATIONS*

Most manufactuers install a lot of "bloatware" on the laptop.  When you got 
it, did you get rid of all that extra crap?

You could start with a program like PC DeCrapifier.

Have you made sure you don't have conflicting anti-virus programs running? 
Again, a lot of manufacturers include trial anti-virus programs.  Uninstall 
them if you're not going to use that particular one; most of them supply 
McAfee or Symantek.


Third, look at your bootup programs.  Open the Msconfig program and go to 
that list.  Uncheck things you don't need to necessarily run at start-up. 
Many programs that you install think they need to run at start-up, it isn't 
wholely necessary.  Example: you don't really need Dropbox or Microsoft 
Office etc. running at startup.  You do, of course, want your anti-virus, 
various windows services, and of course, Jaws to run.



As somebody else mentioned, you can find websites to help you identify 
programs and/or processes that you can then consider not being necessary.


After you make adjustments in your MsConfig file, you need to enable 
"selective startup" so that only those items you designated will run at 
start-up.


As somebody else mentioned, if you had a dual-boot setup, you will have a 
delay that they specified so you can choose which operating system you 
wanted to start with.


It may also make a difference if you have a regular disk drive (not a 
solidstate drive), to clean it (get rid of unnecessary and temporary files), 
then take a look at the defragmentation report to see if you c ould gain 
some efficiencies by de-fragging your disk.


This won't affect boot-up times, but it will speed up your access.  When you 
shutdown, you could choose to put your laptop in Sleep mode rather than 
completely shutting it down.  This will put your currently open programs and 
windows into memory, so that when you wake it up, all you need to do is 
enter your password and you'd be up and running again.


And, as a last resort, sometimes you just get so much garbage in the 
installation of windows and programs, that just doing a clean re-install of 
windows and restoring your programs and files after that would be an option. 
To me, it's a pain in the butt, so the slow boot-up times would really have 
to bother me to do that.
- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a friend of 
mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "David Pearson" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett

LOL I agree with him! :)
On 9/22/2017 4:56 AM, cheez wrote:
I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a 
friend of mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - From: "David Pearson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives 
me nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 
seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws 
home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett
In msconfig under the boot tab is the option to remove any other OS's if 
any from the boot manager. The timeout wont allow anything less than 3 
seconds..

On 9/22/2017 8:05 AM, Valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.


If you're interested in throwing money at a problem like this, a solid 
state disk is the answer. Other than that, just getting the boot 
process to be more efficient is the key, but the challenge is knowing 
just what is being inefficient about it. Some computers have a boot 
selection menu that appears if the system has some sort of or has in 
the past had some sort of dual boot capability. If this appears it'll 
wait for a good 30 seconds or so for you to pick the OS you want to 
start before it starts up the default one, and this problem can be 
present even if it is no longer dual boot capable.



If this is the issue, you can fix it either by removing the extra OS 
(don't know how to do that on the top of my head), or go to run and 
type msconfig. On the boot tab of the resulting screen, set the 
timeout to 5. I wouldn't recommend setting it lower than 2 because it 
might make it impossible to do certain recovery actions before the 
boot process starts, and that's not desirable. So the idea here is to 
get the screen to come up just long enough to be able to tap the right 
button or what have you, but not long enough to lag the boot process 
moere than a few seconds. Be careful in msconfig, there are plenty of 
intricate and interesting ways to break things in there. Don't change 
anything you're not positive you understand.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com";




On 9/22/2017 9:56 AM, Tom Fairhurst wrote:
My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having 
trouble with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability
Desk. The lady who helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed 
up my computer at startup by disabling a number of programs in 
msconfig. I don't recommend looking at this lightly because doing so 
without knowing what you are doing could keep your computer from 
starting properly. once I understood what she was doing, things 
indeed went much  faster, even though I put back a few programs I 
wanted. Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in 
combination wwith other programs, or not JAWS related at all.


-Original Message- From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives 
me nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 
seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws 
home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread cheez
I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a friend of 
mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "David Pearson" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Inquiry

2017-09-22 Thread Mike B.
Hi Jerry,

Let's say that you're running the latest version / build of Jaws 17, which 
is, J17.0.2729enu-x64.  The version is 17, & the build is, .0.2729, the X64 
is for a 64 bit system, if it says X86, that would mean it's for a 32 bit 
system.  If you have Jaws running from the system tray press, Jaws key + J, 
then press the letter, A, to hear the Jaws version / build.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 8:48 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Inquiry


Morning all.

I have Jaws 17, windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Can anyone tell me how to find 
out what build of Jaws I have, or is that just jaws speak for whatever 
version I have? Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Inquiry

2017-09-22 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi,
To find out what version of Jaws you have do the following.
1. Press insert+J for the jaws menu
2. Press the letter h to go to help
3. Press the letter a to go to about
Now you have all your information about Jaws

Mr. Ed

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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Inquiry

Morning all.

I have Jaws 17, windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Can anyone tell me how to find
out what build of Jaws I have, or is that just jaws speak for whatever
version I have? Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Inquiry

2017-09-22 Thread jyandt.martin
Morning all.

I have Jaws 17, windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Can anyone tell me how to find out 
what build of Jaws I have, or is that just jaws speak for whatever version I 
have? Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with jaws and windows 10

2017-09-22 Thread Michael Hunt
I am running Jaws 18 and windows ten.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with jaws and windows 10

Perhaps you are running a somewhat older JAWS build. Try downloading the
latest build for your JAWS version (16 or newer, because earlier ones aren't
compatible with Windows 10 at all) to see if the problem is fixed.

Hope it helps!

2017-09-22 8:47 GMT-03:00 :

> My windows 10, Dell laptop has just completely stopped working.  Well 
> I mean Jaws has.  The first time it did it I had to ring Sight and 
> Sound and they reran the jaws but I had to have sighted help as the 
> jaws just wasn't talking at all.  It was saying something like jaws 
> isn't compatible with windows.  Well we all know it is.  It has now done
the same thing again.
> My friend's machine did the same thing.  Anyone else had this problem?
>
> Jo
>
> -Original Message- From: David Pearson
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer
>
> My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
> window eyes and installed Jaws 18.
>
> At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:
>
>> Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
>> Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives 
>> me nuts!
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" < 
>> laurak...@gmail.com>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
>>> seconds and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
>>> Jaws said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows 
>>> zero, overlay windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds 
>>> Jaws said "Jaws home use" and I was ready to go.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
>>> happened.
>>> Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to 
>>> be concerned about?  Thanks for any input.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread JM Casey
There are also some nice sites online that list and describe all common
processes, which should help you decide which ones you can get rid of to
help speed up your machine. But like Tom said, you don't want to go in there
cancelling processes if you don't know what they are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: September 22, 2017 9:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having trouble
with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability Desk. The lady who
helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed up my computer at startup
by disabling a number of programs in msconfig. I don't recommend looking at
this lightly because doing so without knowing what you are doing could keep
your computer from starting properly. once I understood what she was doing,
things indeed went much  faster, even though I put back a few programs I
wanted. Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in combination
wwith other programs, or not JAWS related at all.

-Original Message-
From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from window
eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:
>Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
>Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
>nuts!
>
>Vince
>
>- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
>
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>>Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..
>>
>>
>>
>>Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
>>seconds and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.
>>
>>
>>
>>Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
>>Jaws said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows 
>>zero, overlay windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws 
>>said "Jaws home use" and I was ready to go.
>>
>>
>>
>>I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
>>Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be 
>>concerned about?  Thanks for any input.
>>
>>
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with jaws and windows 10

2017-09-22 Thread Fernando Gregoire
Perhaps you are running a somewhat older JAWS build. Try downloading the
latest build for your JAWS version (16 or newer, because earlier ones
aren't compatible with Windows 10 at all) to see if the problem is fixed.

Hope it helps!

2017-09-22 8:47 GMT-03:00 :

> My windows 10, Dell laptop has just completely stopped working.  Well I
> mean Jaws has.  The first time it did it I had to ring Sight and Sound and
> they reran the jaws but I had to have sighted help as the jaws just wasn't
> talking at all.  It was saying something like jaws isn't compatible with
> windows.  Well we all know it is.  It has now done the same thing again.
> My friend's machine did the same thing.  Anyone else had this problem?
>
> Jo
>
> -Original Message- From: David Pearson
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer
>
> My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
> window eyes and installed Jaws 18.
>
> At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:
>
>> Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
>> Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me
>> nuts!
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" <
>> laurak...@gmail.com>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
>>> seconds
>>> and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
>>> said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero,
>>> overlay
>>> windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
>>> use" and I was ready to go.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never
>>> happened.
>>> Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
>>> concerned about?  Thanks for any input.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Valiant8086

Hi.


If you're interested in throwing money at a problem like this, a solid 
state disk is the answer. Other than that, just getting the boot process 
to be more efficient is the key, but the challenge is knowing just what 
is being inefficient about it. Some computers have a boot selection menu 
that appears if the system has some sort of or has in the past had some 
sort of dual boot capability. If this appears it'll wait for a good 30 
seconds or so for you to pick the OS you want to start before it starts 
up the default one, and this problem can be present even if it is no 
longer dual boot capable.



If this is the issue, you can fix it either by removing the extra OS 
(don't know how to do that on the top of my head), or go to run and type 
msconfig. On the boot tab of the resulting screen, set the timeout to 5. 
I wouldn't recommend setting it lower than 2 because it might make it 
impossible to do certain recovery actions before the boot process 
starts, and that's not desirable. So the idea here is to get the screen 
to come up just long enough to be able to tap the right button or what 
have you, but not long enough to lag the boot process moere than a few 
seconds. Be careful in msconfig, there are plenty of intricate and 
interesting ways to break things in there. Don't change anything you're 
not positive you understand.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com";



On 9/22/2017 9:56 AM, Tom Fairhurst wrote:
My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having 
trouble with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability
Desk. The lady who helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed 
up my computer at startup by disabling a number of programs in 
msconfig. I don't recommend looking at this lightly because doing so 
without knowing what you are doing could keep your computer from 
starting properly. once I understood what she was doing, things indeed 
went much  faster, even though I put back a few programs I wanted. 
Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in combination wwith 
other programs, or not JAWS related at all.


-Original Message- From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws 
home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Tom Fairhurst
My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having trouble 
with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability
Desk. The lady who helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed up my 
computer at startup by disabling a number of programs in msconfig. I don't 
recommend looking at this lightly because doing so without knowing what you 
are doing could keep your computer from starting properly. once I understood 
what she was doing, things indeed went much  faster, even though I put back 
a few programs I wanted. Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in 
combination wwith other programs, or not JAWS related at all.


-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with jaws and windows 10

2017-09-22 Thread Michael Hunt
That's funny you said that.  just last night it happen on my other computer.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with jaws and windows 10

My windows 10, Dell laptop has just completely stopped working.  Well I mean
Jaws has.  The first time it did it I had to ring Sight and Sound and they
reran the jaws but I had to have sighted help as the jaws just wasn't
talking at all.  It was saying something like jaws isn't compatible with
windows.  Well we all know it is.  It has now done the same thing again.  My
friend's machine did the same thing.  Anyone else had this problem?

Jo

-Original Message-
From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from window
eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:
>Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
>Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
>nuts!
>
>Vince
>
>- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
>
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>>Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..
>>
>>
>>
>>Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
>>seconds and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.
>>
>>
>>
>>Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
>>Jaws said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows 
>>zero, overlay windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws 
>>said "Jaws home use" and I was ready to go.
>>
>>
>>
>>I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
>>Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be 
>>concerned about?  Thanks for any input.
>>
>>
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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[JAWS-Users] problem with jaws and windows 10

2017-09-22 Thread jobennett39
My windows 10, Dell laptop has just completely stopped working.  Well I mean 
Jaws has.  The first time it did it I had to ring Sight and Sound and they 
reran the jaws but I had to have sighted help as the jaws just wasn't 
talking at all.  It was saying something like jaws isn't compatible with 
windows.  Well we all know it is.  It has now done the same thing again.  My 
friend's machine did the same thing.  Anyone else had this problem?


Jo

-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread David Pearson
My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me nuts!

Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread cheez

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me nuts!

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Laura Richardson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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