Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

[Kimsan]

I saw that option, and thought hmmm is it this one? I made the change now
and all is good.
Thanks bro.
I'm going to call you this weekend. Need to get that twisted tea first lol.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 5:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

Yo Dude,

Arrow down a few times to, Hide protected operating system files
(Recommended)-ON, spacebar this to, OFF, say Yes to the dialogue, tab to,
Okay, & press enter to save & close.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder


Mike:
I'm looking for show hidden files, folders and drives right under the view
tab?
If that needs to be on, it's been on apparently.


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blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also,
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

Yo Brother from another Mother,

Once you unhide files & folders, highlight the AppData folder, press, Alt +
Enter, to open its properties, tab to, Hidden, & uncheck this box.  Now, you
need to tab to Okay, press spacebar, & I believe tab to, Okay, again & press
enter to save your changes.  Now this folder will always be  accessible.
Remember to go back into folder options & hide your files & folders again.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder


Thanks, that is what I thought.

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blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also,
you may like our page on facebook at
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

Hi

The appdata folder is hidden.  To see it, you need to change your folder
options to show hidden files.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 07:35
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

What up my brother from another mother!

I actually tried that first before Eric came to the rescue, but I couldn't
find the app data option of which you speak.
I wonder if something is hidden.

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also,
you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

Hi Kimsan,

Here's another way you can try:
1. Press the, Windows key + R, to open the Run dialogue.
2. Type a single period, ., , & press enter.  This puts you in your Name
folder of the Users folder.
3. Press enter on, App Data, navigate to the, Roaming, folder, & press
enter.
4. Navigate to the, Freedom Scientific, folder press enter, press enter on
the, Jaws, option, & select the version of Jaws you want to access the ENU
folder of.
5. Select, Settings, press enter, spacebar / select, ENU, press enter, &
there you are right smak dab in the ENU folder...  LOL
Note:  The above steps are predicated upon the fact that the Windows 10
folder structure is the same as Windows 7.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder


Thank you Eric.

I knew Explore Utilities was something I had to look for, but for the life
of me couldn't remember where it was located. I was all over this machine
looking for it.
Thank you very much.

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blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Version Identification

[Hareth]

The hotkey  "insert+ctrl+V", is for announcing  the version number of
the app in focus.

On 12/16/17, Tom Fairhurst  wrote:
> In many programs, if you look in the Help menu, you will find an About
> option. pressing Enter on this will give you the version number and other
> pertinent informatin about the program.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 2:20 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Version Identification
>
> In any program, could anyone refresh my memory on how to find out a version
>
> of a program? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks.
>
> Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

I'm going to try that as well.

Thanks.

Update:  Oh my gosh!  This is what I like about this list!  Your e-mail made
me think back, and can't remember when I have reset IE, and I think it was
when I had my last computer, about 2 years ago.  I did this, and IE seems to
be working much better!!  Will see how it goes, but appreciate your
e-mail so much!

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hi Tom,
Try resetting your IE. Here are the instructions below.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE 
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 12:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[JM Casey]

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


> Hey.
>
> While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's entirely
> just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is unimportant. In
> fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, with even the previous
> (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's not perfect, but they have
> promised that v58 will be better, and I see no reason to doubt them on 
> that.
> In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will continue to
> be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of your choice. I 
> don't
> exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this matter of Firefox 
> 57/Quantum,
> , but I've yet to hear from anyone using JAWS 2018 and maybe it works 
> better
> there? I have JAWS 18, and part of the reason I've been switching more and
> more to NVDA lately is that I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS
> upgrade at this time. Still going to hang on to both though.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
> issue
> with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
> and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for 
> Google
> not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
>> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
>> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
>> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
>> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
>> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it
> better?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the input.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> --
> Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
> Soundtique
> Grants Pass, Oregon.
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

I totally understand!

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If Edge had menus  and worked completely with Jaws I might switch, same for
Chrome.  Firefox never worked well for me.  Microsoft has to realize many of
us use IE for its ease of use and they should fix the problems, not all of
us love Edge and the fact that it has taken over two years since its release
to make it somewhat accessible is reprehensible.  No keystrokes available or
let's say easily found to operate Edge in the same way is IE.  Guessing
isn't really something I want to take time to do.  Every time a family
member uses Edge here nothing reads and Yes, Jaws is set to read Edge.  I
dislike Edge partly because of lack of keystrokes I can get to easily,
partly because in my experience it never works well and I don't want to have
to type in the web address for every page I visit, if URLs were shorter
maybe but I have loads of pages in favorites in IE, accessed with Alt A,
nothing in Edge and no way that is visible or accessible that I have found
to import or access without memorizing every URL I use, not happening.  

So, for now I stick with what works and yell at the computer when it hangs,
become unhappy but at least 99% of what I need is right where I put it with
keystrokes available if I happen to forget one.  

Maybe sighted people do not need menus, or keystrokes, I personally work
best with a menu or even a ribbon.  

His is my opinion and your mileage will vary.  

Give me a super reason to use Edge including keeping my home page of my
choice, a way to access sites without having to go to the run command and
type in the full URL as Jonathan does on the podcasts, allow me the
flexibility I experience 99% of the time in IE but without the crashes and I
may move to using it.  

Chrome has many of the same issues as Edge, no menus, no visible keystrokes,
it is a guessing game and I don't usually have time to play three guesses
and none of them count.  

Accessibility, great for those who can see the screen even with
magnification in each browser, not so great for those of us who depend on
Jaws alone because we can't get clues from the screen any other way and why
it has taken more than two years to do a halfway job of fixing this, leaving
all the fixes to third parties who can't get where they need to make it fast
and easy is a point against Microsoft!  Accessibility seems to rule, only if
you can somewhat see the screen.  

Rant over

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components
that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security
gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the
latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[JM Casey]

I don't know. I've always had these sorts of problems with internet
Explorer, mostly with it closing unexpectedly because of some error, or
scripts on a page just slowing everything down so much that they stopped
working. Back in the day, most of my IT friends were telling people not to
use IE. It took me a long time to get on board with Firefox, when I was
using my XP machine, and even then I ended up going back to iE from time to
time because sometimes it did seem like JAWS worked nicely with it. As time
went on, though, I found this to be less and less the case. It got to the
point where many of my favourite websites just did not work properly in IE
anymore. You could still use them, but some of the functionality just wasn't
available. Now when I try to go to goodreads.com with iE, for instance, I
can't even find my own reviews when I click on a book's page. The WWW is
just leaving Internet Explorer behind, and Microsoft has acknowledged this
by bringing in an entire new browsing experience: Edge. Edge is n o good for
me though, and I'm not going to settle for something that works so poorly.
But Microsoft has never really dissuaded  anyone from using third party
products, and well they shouldn't. At this point, I think that's really what
most of us have to do.

It would be nice if browsers, as well as other software,  had accessibility
built into them, and I guess that is the "new paradigm" of things. This way
the screen-reader developers wouldn't constantly have to be struggling to
keep up. But, I guess this isn't really the problem, as far as IE goes, most
of the time.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

I would be very interested in your tutorial.  I've been exploring Google
Chrome on my own and with help from all of you.

Thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hi!
I have the same results. If you really need to use IE 11, you can use an
earlier version of JAWS. I use Google Chrome with JAWS 2018, and Windows 10,
and it works like a charm as well.
However, when I get my old computer out that has Windows 7 and JAWS 15, IE
does work like a charm.
If any of you would like my Google Chrome Browser tutorial, I can paste it
into a message and put it on here.
Even Edge works better with JAWS 2018 better than IE 11.
As we know, to use Firefox, version 57 does not work with JAWS hardly at
all.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If memory serves, Jaws 14 was fine, and was using Windows 7 at the time.
Everything running smoothly, as I recall.

Judy




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[Michael Babcock]

So using quick settings and finding the word “copy, and changing that to the 
setting that allows copying from the virtual viewer did work for me to select 
and copy text for the most part in chrome.

Now I’m just got some live person issues to figure out.

But that’s a totally different beast.

With my best regards

Michael

Host of the your own pay podcast…

Find it in your favorite podcast app


> On Dec 15, 2017, at 1:35 PM, LeDon  wrote:
> 
> Yes I have this problem. I can't seem to copy anything while using chrome. I 
> hope that you get an answer for this. I want to see it too. In the meantime, 
> I use a work around. I clear speech history by pressing cap lock, space bar, 
> then shift H. that clears the speech history. Then I read the text to be 
> copied. Then go to speech history by pressing cap lock, spacebar, h. then 
> copy the speech history. It is cumbersome but it does work. I hope you get a 
> better solution to our problem.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:33 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job
> 
> Hey there everyone.
> 
> The new job is freaking amazing!
> 
> I say that, because I have yet to come across any “in accessible“ tool.
> 
> I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot easier, 
> and eventually I’ll be substantially faster than any other agent on the floor.
> 
> But, we have a slight issue!
> 
> 
> Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
> windows.
> 
> Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in chrome, 
> and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.
> 
> The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
> when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
> from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.
> 
> We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to look). 
> And jars version 2018. (Again today I’m going to check for update).
> 
> Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if 
> so, how did you fix it?
> 
> IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me 
> successful, it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven 
> years ago while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 
> percent as accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of 
> might have chatted our team lead up, and said once I’m set in my ways I’ll be 
> as productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also 
> sidenote, live person the chat client “live engage” (a product produced by 
> the company live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent 
> accessible on chrome.
> 
> There are a few arrows that don’t have alternative text for them, and I’m 
> working my way through them.
> 
> And yesterday I couldn’t and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
> jaws keystrokes in later versions.
> 
> Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other again..
> 
> The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
> username if your organization doesn’t use email addresses for Simon.
> 
> It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a 
> chat yesterday, so when I figure that out I’ll write up a quick guide for 
> anyone who needs it.
> 
> Hope everyone’s having a great Friday.
> 
> Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I’m excited to implement 
> them within the chat program. That’s going to save a lot of headache too. 
> Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame… Which is 
> information that I need for my Notes anyways…
> 
> 
> With my best regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> Host of the your own pay podcast…
> 
> Find it in your favorite podcast app
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Sounds in I E

[Miriam Vieni]

Thanks. I did find directions to turn on the sounds, but I didn't know that
there was a way to just turn on the notification when something is
downloaded. I am so amazed by, and grateful for, all of the knowledge that
so many of you have, and are willing to share, about how to make the
computer work for me.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 4:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sounds in I E

Hi Miriam,

Try the following:
To get sounds In IE11:

With IE11 open, press ,control + J, to open the View Downloads dialog.  Tab
to the options link, press the spacebar, tab and when you hear notify me
when download is complete, hit spacebar to check the checkbox. tab to & Okay
the choice.  If the, control + J, keystroke doesn't work, try pressing, Alt
+ T, to open the tools menu, arrow down to, View Downloads, & press enter to
open the View Downloads dialog.

In Internet Explorer 11 there is the option of playing system sounds, These
sounds include a sound to Notify you when your downloads are complete By
default the system sounds & Notify when download is complete options are
off. To turn them on:
1. With IE11 open, press, Alt + T, for tools  & press the letter, O, for
options.

2. Now press,ctrl+tab until you get to the advanced page / tab.

3. In the settings tree view, in the accessibility group, there's the item
play system sounds-off. You can quickly move to this by pressing the letter
p. Press spacebar, and the item changes to play system sounds-on.

4. Now press the letter, N, to, Notify when downloads complete-OFF.  Press
the spacebar to toggle this to, ON.

5. press enter to press the default ok button to save your changes & close
Tools / Options.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 12:16 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sounds in I E


Oh Dear, I followed the directions given to reset I E 11, but that probably
wiped out the sounds so would someone please, please, give me step by step
directions about how to turn the sounds back on so I can hear when my books
download?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes 
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?



Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's entirely
just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is unimportant. In
fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, with even the previous
(IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's not perfect, but they have
promised that v58 will be better, and I see no reason to doubt them on 
that.

In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will continue to
be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of your choice. I 
don't
exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this matter of Firefox 
57/Quantum,
, but I've yet to hear from anyone using JAWS 2018 and maybe it works 
better

there? I have JAWS 18, and part of the reason I've been switching more and
more to NVDA lately is that I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS
upgrade at this time. Still going to hang on to both though.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
issue

with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for 
Google

not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it

better?"




Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[JM Casey]

Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's entirely
just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is unimportant. In
fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, with even the previous
(IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's not perfect, but they have
promised that v58 will be better, and I see no reason to doubt them on that.
In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will continue to
be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of your choice. I don't
exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this matter of Firefox 57/Quantum,
, but I've yet to hear from anyone using JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better
there? I have JAWS 18, and part of the reason I've been switching more and
more to NVDA lately is that I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS
upgrade at this time. Still going to hang on to both though.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>   
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it
better?"
>
>   
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] Assistance with setting up appointment using calendar on Web site

[Christopher Sabine, ONH Consulting]

Hello. I'm in need of some assistance setting up an appointment on a Web
site
https://my-schedule.timetrade.com/app/td-1556357/workflows/lj676/schedule/av
ailability?wfsid=16a5bdc5-baba97f6-16a5bea0-baba97f6-0002-bg5d2m6rb0s5n0
5k5er94r97n3clgnbv=full=1. I've tried selecting the date and time
using Firefox and Google Chrome running JAWS 2018

 

Unfortunately, there does not appear to be a place to select the time, and
the buttons representing the dates won't avtivate. I've tried this with and
without the virtual cursor. Is there a way to make heads or tails of this
site with Jaws. 

 

Thanks Much,

 

Chris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] another issue with JAWS 2018

[Inam Uddin]

It’s the problem of your JAWS 14 not JAWS 2018.
HTH
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At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
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From: Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 8:07 PM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] another issue with JAWS 2018

I noticed that when I switch from JAWS 14 to JAWS 2018 the switch works very 
well.

If I reverse the action going from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 14, that even though 14 
seems to load, there is no speech until I restart the computer.

Is there a fix for this?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[JM Casey]

A lot of sighted people, or that is, mostly computer "experts", prefer to
have keystrokes. I haven't really bothred with Edge because I mostly love
Firefox and find that it works great. However, it is indeed surprising if
it's as unkeyboard-friendly as all that. The reason I say that is that
Microsoft, more than anyone else, is usually really good with making sure
everything is perfectly workable from the keyboard. They don't do this for
blind users, necessarily, but of course it works out very well for us, too.
Windows 10 is full of great keyboard tricks, and you'd really think Edge
would follow suit. Ah well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: December 15, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If Edge had menus  and worked completely with Jaws I might switch, same for
Chrome.  Firefox never worked well for me.  Microsoft has to realize many of
us use IE for its ease of use and they should fix the problems, not all of
us love Edge and the fact that it has taken over two years since its release
to make it somewhat accessible is reprehensible.  No keystrokes available or
let's say easily found to operate Edge in the same way is IE.  Guessing
isn't really something I want to take time to do.  Every time a family
member uses Edge here nothing reads and Yes, Jaws is set to read Edge.  I
dislike Edge partly because of lack of keystrokes I can get to easily,
partly because in my experience it never works well and I don't want to have
to type in the web address for every page I visit, if URLs were shorter
maybe but I have loads of pages in favorites in IE, accessed with Alt A,
nothing in Edge and no way that is visible or accessible that I have found
to import or access without memorizing every URL I use, not happening.  

So, for now I stick with what works and yell at the computer when it hangs,
become unhappy but at least 99% of what I need is right where I put it with
keystrokes available if I happen to forget one.  

Maybe sighted people do not need menus, or keystrokes, I personally work
best with a menu or even a ribbon.  

His is my opinion and your mileage will vary.  

Give me a super reason to use Edge including keeping my home page of my
choice, a way to access sites without having to go to the run command and
type in the full URL as Jonathan does on the podcasts, allow me the
flexibility I experience 99% of the time in IE but without the crashes and I
may move to using it.  

Chrome has many of the same issues as Edge, no menus, no visible keystrokes,
it is a guessing game and I don't usually have time to play three guesses
and none of them count.  

Accessibility, great for those who can see the screen even with
magnification in each browser, not so great for those of us who depend on
Jaws alone because we can't get clues from the screen any other way and why
it has taken more than two years to do a halfway job of fixing this, leaving
all the fixes to third parties who can't get where they need to make it fast
and easy is a point against Microsoft!  Accessibility seems to rule, only if
you can somewhat see the screen.  

Rant over

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components
that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security
gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the
latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Sounds in I E

[Mike B.]

Hi Miriam,

Try the following:
To get sounds In IE11:

With IE11 open, press ,control + J, to open the View Downloads dialog.  Tab 
to the options link, press the spacebar, tab and when you hear notify
me when download is complete, hit spacebar to check the checkbox. tab to & 
Okay the choice.  If the, control + J, keystroke doesn't work, try pressing, 
Alt + T, to open the tools menu, arrow down to, View Downloads, & press 
enter to open the View Downloads dialog.

In Internet Explorer 11 there is the option of playing system sounds, These 
sounds include a sound to Notify you when your downloads are complete
By default the system sounds & Notify when download is complete options are 
off. To turn them on:
1. With IE11 open, press, Alt + T, for tools  & press the letter, O, for 
options.

2. Now press,ctrl+tab until you get to the advanced page / tab.

3. In the settings tree view, in the accessibility group, there's the item 
play system sounds-off. You can quickly move to this by pressing the letter 
p. Press spacebar, and the item changes to play system sounds-on.

4. Now press the letter, N, to, Notify when downloads complete-OFF.  Press 
the spacebar to toggle this to, ON.

5. press enter to press the default ok button to save your changes & close 
Tools / Options.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 12:16 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sounds in I E


Oh Dear, I followed the directions given to reset I E 11, but that probably
wiped out the sounds so would someone please, please, give me step by step
directions about how to turn the sounds back on so I can hear when my books
download?

Miriam


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[JAWS-Users] Found instructions for turning sounds on

[Miriam Vieni]

I've found instructions that someone provided previously on this list for
turning sounds on so I followed them. And now I'll see if IE works more
smoothly.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Fields on web site not activating

[George Martinez Sr]

That worked the first and not the second time.  Don't you just love it when
computers are inconsistent? FROWN

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
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the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fields on web site not activating

Hi, George. Try refreshing the screen with JAWS key+escape. I find I need to
do this for edit fields at more and more websites.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fields on web site not activating

Hello all,
This week I updated my JAWS 18, also using Windows 10 Creators.  Default
browser is Chrome.
Today I went onto GoToMyPC to check a connection and heard TWO little pop
sounds when I arrived.  That sound is the one I usually hear when a data
entry field is open & ready.  
When I looked with MAGic my cursor is blinking in the data entry box but no
entrhy is possible.  I cannot TAB or Shift TAB nor does hitting enter work.
I thought it was an issue with Chrome so I pulled up Firefox and it gives me
a funny message about my screen reader and needing to upgrade to their new
produce.  So, adios Firefox.
Then I tried IE-11 and I have the same problem at the same web site!
I went back to Chrome and tried my online banking site and that still works.
Go figure.
It appears there is some new issue in JAWS with this last update but not on
all web sites.
 
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O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[LeDon]

Yes I have this problem. I can't seem to copy anything while using chrome. I 
hope that you get an answer for this. I want to see it too. In the meantime, I 
use a work around. I clear speech history by pressing cap lock, space bar, then 
shift H. that clears the speech history. Then I read the text to be copied. 
Then go to speech history by pressing cap lock, spacebar, h. then copy the 
speech history. It is cumbersome but it does work. I hope you get a better 
solution to our problem.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

Hey there everyone.

The new job is freaking amazing!

I say that, because I have yet to come across any “in accessible“ tool.

I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot easier, 
and eventually I’ll be substantially faster than any other agent on the floor.

But, we have a slight issue!


Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
windows.

Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in chrome, 
and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.

The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.

We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to look). 
And jars version 2018. (Again today I’m going to check for update).

Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if so, 
how did you fix it?

IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me successful, 
it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven years ago 
while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 percent as 
accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of might have 
chatted our team lead up, and said once I’m set in my ways I’ll be as 
productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also sidenote, 
live person the chat client “live engage” (a product produced by the company 
live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent accessible on 
chrome.

There are a few arrows that don’t have alternative text for them, and I’m 
working my way through them.

And yesterday I couldn’t and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
jaws keystrokes in later versions.

Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other again..

The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
username if your organization doesn’t use email addresses for Simon.

It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a chat 
yesterday, so when I figure that out I’ll write up a quick guide for anyone who 
needs it.

Hope everyone’s having a great Friday.

Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I’m excited to implement them 
within the chat program. That’s going to save a lot of headache too. 
Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame… Which is 
information that I need for my Notes anyways…


With my best regards

Michael

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Version Identification

[Tom Fairhurst]

In many programs, if you look in the Help menu, you will find an About 
option. pressing Enter on this will give you the version number and other 
pertinent informatin about the program.


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Version Identification

In any program, could anyone refresh my memory on how to find out a version 
of a program? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

You know what, a very good idea, thanks!




Judy
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- Original Message -
From: David Moore  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

>
>
> Hi!
> I have the same results. If you really need to use IE 11, you can use an 
> earlier version of JAWS. I use Google Chrome with JAWS 2018, and Windows 10, 
> and it works like a charm as well.
> However, when I get my old computer out that has Windows 7 and JAWS 15, IE 
> does work like a charm.
> If any of you would like my Google Chrome Browser tutorial, I can paste it 
> into a message and put it on here.
> Even Edge works better with JAWS 2018 better than IE 11.
> As we know, to use Firefox, version 57 does not work with JAWS hardly at all.
> Take care, guys!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:47 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> If memory serves, Jaws 14 was fine, and was using Windows 7 at the time.
> Everything running smoothly, as I recall.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of my mail
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:20 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
> Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
> back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
> version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
> PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
> have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
> having is Jaws 2018.  Tom
> 
> --
> From: "Nathaniel Kile" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for bl/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[Judy Jones]

I also appreciate the tip. I have never tried that before. Thanks to both.




Judy
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- Original Message -
From: Michael Babcock  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 5:41 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

>
>
> That would work, however I was hoping I wouldn't have to virtualize a webpage 
> that I assumed should already have been virtualized in order for me to copy 
> and paste text. That'll be a extra key stroke I have to use prior to 
> manipulating the text from each center that I have to get, and apparently on 
> some chance will have three or four centers we have to get information from. 
> However, if that's what I have to do, I'll do it. Thanks for the suggestion 
> and I'll give it a try when I get to work in an hour or so.
With my best regards
Michael
Host of the your own pay podcast...
Find it in your favorite podcast app

> On Dec 15, 2017, at 5:38 AM, DGH  wrote:
> 
> Don't forget about virtualizing your window, insert alt will.
> You can select and copy text this way also.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:33 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job
> 
> Hey there everyone.
> 
> The new job is freaking amazing!
> 
> I say that, because I have yet to come across any "in accessible" tool.
> 
> I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot easier, 
> and eventually I'll be substantially faster than any other agent on the floor.
> 
> But, we have a slight issue!
> 
> 
> Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
> windows.
> 
> Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in chrome, 
> and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.
> 
> The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
> when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
> from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.
> 
> We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to look). 
> And jars version 2018. (Again today I'm going to check for update).
> 
> Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if 
> so, how did you fix it?
> 
> IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me 
> successful, it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven 
> years ago while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 
> percent as accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of 
> might have chatted our team lead up, and said once I'm set in my ways I'll be 
> as productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also 
> sidenote, live person the chat client "live engage" (a product produced by 
> the company live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent 
> accessible on chrome.
> 
> There are a few arrows that don't have alternative text for them, and I'm 
> working my way through them.
> 
> And yesterday I couldn't and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
> jaws keystrokes in later versions.
> 
> Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other ag..
> 
> The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
> username if your organization doesn't use email addresses for Simon.
> 
> It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a 
> chat yesterday, so when I figure that out I'll write up a quick guide for 
> anyone who needs it.
> 
> Hope everyone's having a great Friday.
> 
> Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I'm excited to implement 
> them within the chat program. That's going to save a lot of headache too. 
> Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame... Which 
> is information that I need for my Notes anyways...
> 
> 
> With my best regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> Host of the your own pay podcast...
> 
> Find it in your favorite podcast app
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[Judy Jones]

It also looks like you're voice dictating, you might want to proof what you 
have written, especially with a new job. I always have to do that for myself in 
braille, anyway congrats on the job, way to go!




Judy
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- Original Message -
From: Michael Babcock  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 5:32 am
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

>
>
> Hey there everyone.
The new job is freaking amazing!
I say that, because I have yet to come across any "in accessible" tool.
I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot easier, 
and eventually I'll be substantially faster than any other agent on the floor.
But, we have a slight issue!

Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
windows.
Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in chrome, 
and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.
The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.
We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to look). 
And jars version 2018. (Again today I'm going to check for update).
Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if so, 
how did you fix it?
IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me successful, 
it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven years ago 
while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 percent as 
accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of might have 
chatted our team lead up, and said once I'm set in my ways I'll be as 
productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also sidenote, 
live person the chat client "live engage" (a product produced by the company 
live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent accessible on 
chrome.
There are a few arrows that don't have alternative text for them, and I'm 
working my way through them.
And yesterday I couldn't and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
jaws keystrokes in later versions.
Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other ag..
The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
username if your organization doesn't use email addresses for Simon.
It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a chat 
yesterday, so when I figure that out I'll write up a quick guide for anyone who 
needs it.
Hope everyone's having a great Friday.
Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I'm excited to implement them 
within the chat program. That's going to save a lot of headache too. 
Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame... Which is 
information that I need for my Notes anyways...

With my best regards
Michael
Host of the your own pay podcast...
Find it in your favorite podcast app

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.

[Judy Jones]

Except my question was getting back to the web page.

Thanks.




Judy
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- Original Message -
From: Mike Mote  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 5:18 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.

>
>
> You can press control plus the letter J, and get to your downloads folder.
> From there, you can see the file you are trying to download.  Hope this
> helps!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Justin Williams
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.
> 
> Does f6 work?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:02 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.
> 
> Hello, Listers,
> 
>  
> 
> Again, I need another reminder.  When wanting to download in Google Chrome.
> With IE, you can press alt-N and have the choice of open or save.  This
> option is not available in Google Chrom per sae, but there must be another
> way to get to any information bar like you would with alt-N in internet
> explorer.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for the how-to reminder.
> 
>  
> 
> Judy
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

Except that I don't see this behavior with Chrome, and one sees it 
intermittently seemingly on any web site.



Judy
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- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:33 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

>
>
> It is also possible that the web page you are visiting might just be quite 
> busy at that time as Amazon often is when I go over there, just a thought 
> for folks to consider.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> This is how I am feeling, too.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
> with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
> and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
> not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it
> better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> -
> Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
> Soundtique
> Grants Pass, Oregon.
> 
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> 
> 
> David Ferrin
> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Fields on web site not activating

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi, George. Try refreshing the screen with JAWS key+escape. I find I need to do 
this for edit fields at more and more websites.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fields on web site not activating

Hello all,
This week I updated my JAWS 18, also using Windows 10 Creators.  Default 
browser is Chrome.
Today I went onto GoToMyPC to check a connection and heard TWO little pop 
sounds when I arrived.  That sound is the one I usually hear when a data entry 
field is open & ready.  
When I looked with MAGic my cursor is blinking in the data entry box but no 
entrhy is possible.  I cannot TAB or Shift TAB nor does hitting enter work.
I thought it was an issue with Chrome so I pulled up Firefox and it gives me a 
funny message about my screen reader and needing to upgrade to their new 
produce.  So, adios Firefox.
Then I tried IE-11 and I have the same problem at the same web site!
I went back to Chrome and tried my online banking site and that still works.
Go figure.
It appears there is some new issue in JAWS with this last update but not on all 
web sites.
 
George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
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the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to Andy 
Rooney
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Version Identification

[Adrian Spratt]

JAWS key+control+v.

-Original Message-
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Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Version Identification

In any program, could anyone refresh my memory on how to find out a version of 
a program? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Version Identification

[jyandt.martin]

In any program, could anyone refresh my memory on how to find out a version of 
a program? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Sounds in I E

[Miriam Vieni]

Oh Dear, I followed the directions given to reset I E 11, but that probably
wiped out the sounds so would someone please, please, give me step by step
directions about how to turn the sounds back on so I can hear when my books
download?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Fields on web site not activating

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

I have also recently seen this behavior in edit fields on certain websites, and 
I have not yet updated to the most recent version of JAWS 18.

An example of this was when trying to enter my user id and password on the 
United Healthcare website.

I will need to try NVDA the next time I encounter this and see if I have any 
better luck than with JAWS.

From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of 
George Martinez Sr [ga.marti...@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fields on web site not activating

Hello all,
This week I updated my JAWS 18, also using Windows 10 Creators.  Default
browser is Chrome.
Today I went onto GoToMyPC to check a connection and heard TWO little pop
sounds when I arrived.  That sound is the one I usually hear when a data
entry field is open & ready.
When I looked with MAGic my cursor is blinking in the data entry box but no
entrhy is possible.  I cannot TAB or Shift TAB nor does hitting enter work.
I thought it was an issue with Chrome so I pulled up Firefox and it gives me
a funny message about my screen reader and needing to upgrade to their new
produce.  So, adios Firefox.
Then I tried IE-11 and I have the same problem at the same web site!
I went back to Chrome and tried my online banking site and that still works.
Go figure.
It appears there is some new issue in JAWS with this last update but not on
all web sites.

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

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Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

[David Whitehead]

yes, Mike, I'm aware of this, but, think there's more going on.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

Hi David,

I'm sure you know this, butMove the messages out of the Outbox, & save 
them outside of WLM, like in the My Documents folder just in case he may 
need them for something.  Now, see how WLM works.
- Original Message - 
From: David Whitehead
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar


hello;
well, I did take a look at Tom's computer, using WLM,
the view was messed up, I did fix the view, everything was working, however,
he seems to be having the issue again.
I believe one of the issues is, perhaps one of his accounts is not working
properly, hense, when an error comes up, there's nothing he can do with the
keyboard to get into the file menu.
if I do connect to his computer again, I will look for the accounts. in one
account there were many messages sitting in the outbox, obviously, there's
issue with that account.
we'll see what happen's.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:49 AM
To: Jaws Users 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

wlm is no longer supported by microsoft, and so you can't download wlm from
the microsoft website any more. You probably can from other places, but you
would have to be careful where you downloaded it from.
However, you might be able to repair it. I'm not sure how accessible this
will be for your version of windows essentials, you might need sighted help
to be able to do it.
I've got Windows essentials (which includes windows live mail) 2012
installed. If I got to programs and features, select windows essentials
2012, open its context menu and choose uninstall/change, then a dialog
opens which contains a button for repairing windows essentials.
Incidentally, the entry for windows essentials in programs in features will
tell you which version you are using.

David.

original message:
nothing seems to work, so do you think if I uninstalled wlm, and downloaded
it
again would help?
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[JAWS-Users] Fields on web site not activating

[George Martinez Sr]

Hello all,
This week I updated my JAWS 18, also using Windows 10 Creators.  Default
browser is Chrome.
Today I went onto GoToMyPC to check a connection and heard TWO little pop
sounds when I arrived.  That sound is the one I usually hear when a data
entry field is open & ready.  
When I looked with MAGic my cursor is blinking in the data entry box but no
entrhy is possible.  I cannot TAB or Shift TAB nor does hitting enter work.
I thought it was an issue with Chrome so I pulled up Firefox and it gives me
a funny message about my screen reader and needing to upgrade to their new
produce.  So, adios Firefox.
Then I tried IE-11 and I have the same problem at the same web site!
I went back to Chrome and tried my online banking site and that still works.
Go figure.
It appears there is some new issue in JAWS with this last update but not on
all web sites.
 
George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

[Mike B.]

Hi David,

I'm sure you know this, butMove the messages out of the Outbox, & save 
them outside of WLM, like in the My Documents folder just in case he may 
need them for something.  Now, see how WLM works.
- Original Message - 
From: David Whitehead
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar


hello;
well, I did take a look at Tom's computer, using WLM,
the view was messed up, I did fix the view, everything was working, however,
he seems to be having the issue again.
I believe one of the issues is, perhaps one of his accounts is not working
properly, hense, when an error comes up, there's nothing he can do with the
keyboard to get into the file menu.
if I do connect to his computer again, I will look for the accounts. in one
account there were many messages sitting in the outbox, obviously, there's
issue with that account.
we'll see what happen's.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:49 AM
To: Jaws Users 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

wlm is no longer supported by microsoft, and so you can't download wlm from
the microsoft website any more. You probably can from other places, but you
would have to be careful where you downloaded it from.
However, you might be able to repair it. I'm not sure how accessible this
will be for your version of windows essentials, you might need sighted help
to be able to do it.
I've got Windows essentials (which includes windows live mail) 2012
installed. If I got to programs and features, select windows essentials
2012, open its context menu and choose uninstall/change, then a dialog
opens which contains a button for repairing windows essentials.
Incidentally, the entry for windows essentials in programs in features will
tell you which version you are using.

David.

original message:
nothing seems to work, so do you think if I uninstalled wlm, and downloaded
it
again would help?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

[David Ferrin]

I have both 2009 and 2012 available for download on the server. They have 
been there for a number of years already. Fire fox ESR will probably get up 
there shortly. They are on the server, I just need to link them in the main 
index.


-Original Message- 
From: David Bailes

Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:48 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

wlm is no longer supported by microsoft, and so you can't download wlm from
the microsoft website any more. You probably can from other places, but you
would have to be careful where you downloaded it from.
However, you might be able to repair it. I'm not sure how accessible this
will be for your version of windows essentials, you might need sighted help
to be able to do it.
I've got Windows essentials (which includes windows live mail) 2012
installed. If I got to programs and features, select windows essentials
2012, open its context menu and choose uninstall/change, then a dialog
opens which contains a button for repairing windows essentials.
Incidentally, the entry for windows essentials in programs in features will
tell you which version you are using.

David.

original message:
nothing seems to work, so do you think if I uninstalled wlm, and downloaded 
it

again would help?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Tom,
Try resetting your IE. Here are the instructions below.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE 
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 12:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

[David Whitehead]

hello;
well, I did take a look at Tom's computer, using WLM,
the view was messed up, I did fix the view, everything was working, however,
he seems to be having the issue again.
I believe one of the issues is, perhaps one of his accounts is not working
properly, hense, when an error comes up, there's nothing he can do with the
keyboard to get into the file menu.
if I do connect to his computer again, I will look for the accounts. in one
account there were many messages sitting in the outbox, obviously, there's
issue with that account.
we'll see what happen's.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:49 AM
To: Jaws Users 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

wlm is no longer supported by microsoft, and so you can't download wlm from
the microsoft website any more. You probably can from other places, but you
would have to be careful where you downloaded it from.
However, you might be able to repair it. I'm not sure how accessible this
will be for your version of windows essentials, you might need sighted help
to be able to do it.
I've got Windows essentials (which includes windows live mail) 2012
installed. If I got to programs and features, select windows essentials
2012, open its context menu and choose uninstall/change, then a dialog
opens which contains a button for repairing windows essentials.
Incidentally, the entry for windows essentials in programs in features will
tell you which version you are using.

David.

original message:
nothing seems to work, so do you think if I uninstalled wlm, and downloaded
it
again would help?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unhide wlm toolbar

[David Bailes]

wlm is no longer supported by microsoft, and so you can't download wlm from
the microsoft website any more. You probably can from other places, but you
would have to be careful where you downloaded it from.
However, you might be able to repair it. I'm not sure how accessible this
will be for your version of windows essentials, you might need sighted help
to be able to do it.
I've got Windows essentials (which includes windows live mail) 2012
installed. If I got to programs and features, select windows essentials
2012, open its context menu and choose uninstall/change, then a dialog
opens which contains a button for repairing windows essentials.
Incidentally, the entry for windows essentials in programs in features will
tell you which version you are using.

David.

original message:
nothing seems to work, so do you think if I uninstalled wlm, and downloaded it
again would help?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[rosecombs52]

If Edge had menus  and worked completely with Jaws I might switch, same for
Chrome.  Firefox never worked well for me.  Microsoft has to realize many of
us use IE for its ease of use and they should fix the problems, not all of
us love Edge and the fact that it has taken over two years since its release
to make it somewhat accessible is reprehensible.  No keystrokes available or
let's say easily found to operate Edge in the same way is IE.  Guessing
isn't really something I want to take time to do.  Every time a family
member uses Edge here nothing reads and Yes, Jaws is set to read Edge.  I
dislike Edge partly because of lack of keystrokes I can get to easily,
partly because in my experience it never works well and I don't want to have
to type in the web address for every page I visit, if URLs were shorter
maybe but I have loads of pages in favorites in IE, accessed with Alt A,
nothing in Edge and no way that is visible or accessible that I have found
to import or access without memorizing every URL I use, not happening.  

So, for now I stick with what works and yell at the computer when it hangs,
become unhappy but at least 99% of what I need is right where I put it with
keystrokes available if I happen to forget one.  

Maybe sighted people do not need menus, or keystrokes, I personally work
best with a menu or even a ribbon.  

His is my opinion and your mileage will vary.  

Give me a super reason to use Edge including keeping my home page of my
choice, a way to access sites without having to go to the run command and
type in the full URL as Jonathan does on the podcasts, allow me the
flexibility I experience 99% of the time in IE but without the crashes and I
may move to using it.  

Chrome has many of the same issues as Edge, no menus, no visible keystrokes,
it is a guessing game and I don't usually have time to play three guesses
and none of them count.  

Accessibility, great for those who can see the screen even with
magnification in each browser, not so great for those of us who depend on
Jaws alone because we can't get clues from the screen any other way and why
it has taken more than two years to do a halfway job of fixing this, leaving
all the fixes to third parties who can't get where they need to make it fast
and easy is a point against Microsoft!  Accessibility seems to rule, only if
you can somewhat see the screen.  

Rant over

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components
that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security
gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the
latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

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[JAWS-Users] another issue with JAWS 2018

[Vicki W.]

I noticed that when I switch from JAWS 14 to JAWS 2018 the switch works very 
well.

If I reverse the action going from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 14, that even though 14 
seems to load, there is no speech until I restart the computer.

Is there a fix for this?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Screen Shade Not Working on Desktop Computer

[Fernando Gregoire]

Computer manufacturer and model may be relevant in this case, because it
could allow to find a possible patern regarding graphic ccards. For the
same reason, in case the computer is not an OEM (branded) one, it will be
helpful to include the graphics card model in your report.

2017-12-15 1:53 GMT-03:00 Dennis Long :

> Please report this to FS include   the following.  1 Operating  system
> including version example like this.  Windows 10 version 11.03 I'm making
> that number up for example purposes only.  2 model of computer.  I don't
> know that matters so much as Operating system and version number this will
> better help track the bug if it is a bug.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Debbie Yuille
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:20 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Screen Shade Not Working on Desktop Computer
>
> Hi All
>
>
>
> I've just installed the new JAWS update on my windows 10 desktop and tried
> the Screen Shade feature. It reports that it it's on and yet I don't see
> any
> difference on my screen. Has anyone else experienced this?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Debbie
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 latest version and lowering audio Windows10 fall creator's update

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi,
This is currently not working with JAWS in Creators Update and later.
Certainly it was a problem with the first builds of CU, but Microsoft
already fixed them and even NVDA is working with this feature again.
I hope FS fix this for JAWS soon.

2017-12-14 10:36 GMT-03:00 Shai :

> Hello,
> I am using the latest version of JAWS2018 on a Windows10 machine
> running the fall creator's update (1709). Upon listening to a few
> YouTube videos yesterday in Internet Explorer, I notice that the
> YouTube audio was not lowered when JAWS was speaking despite the fact
> that this is checked in the Settings Center under the default JAWS
> settings file. Is anyone else experiencing this issue  and have a
> solution? Is there something else that should also be enabled for this
> to occur? I am using Eloquence as my voice.
> Thank you in advance for any responses
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[Michael Babcock]

Thank you, I’ll try it soon as I get into work.

With my best regards

Michael

Host of the your own pay podcast…

Find it in your favorite podcast app


> On Dec 15, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Mike Mote  wrote:
> 
> Hi there!  You can resolve this issue very easily.  When you are in Chrome, 
> press Insert plus V to pull up your quick settings.  Then type copy in the 
> search box.  You should have an option that comes up saying something like 
> select copy f;ulll content.  You need to change this option by pressing the 
> spacebar to copy from virtual  cursor.  Give this a try, and see if it 
> resolves this problem.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 8:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job
> 
> That would work, however I was hoping I wouldn’t have to virtualize a webpage 
> that I assumed should already have been virtualized in order for me to copy 
> and paste text. That’ll be a extra key stroke I have to use prior to 
> manipulating the text from each center that I have to get, and apparently on 
> some chance will have three or four centers we have to get information from. 
> However, if that’s what I have to do, I’ll do it. Thanks for the suggestion 
> and I’ll give it a try when I get to work in an hour or so.
> 
> With my best regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> Host of the your own pay podcast…
> 
> Find it in your favorite podcast app
> 
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2017, at 5:38 AM, DGH  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't forget about virtualizing your window, insert alt w.
>> You can select and copy text this way also.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
>> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:33 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job
>> 
>> Hey there everyone.
>> 
>> The new job is freaking amazing!
>> 
>> I say that, because I have yet to come across any “in accessible“ tool.
>> 
>> I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot 
>> easier, and eventually I’ll be substantially faster than any other agent on 
>> the floor.
>> 
>> But, we have a slight issue!
>> 
>> 
>> Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
>> windows.
>> 
>> Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in 
>> chrome, and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.
>> 
>> The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
>> when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
>> from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.
>> 
>> We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to 
>> look). And jars version 2018. (Again today I’m going to check for update).
>> 
>> Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if 
>> so, how did you fix it?
>> 
>> IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me 
>> successful, it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven 
>> years ago while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 
>> percent as accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of 
>> might have chatted our team lead up, and said once I’m set in my ways I’ll 
>> be as productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also 
>> sidenote, live person the chat client “live engage” (a product produced by 
>> the company live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent 
>> accessible on chrome.
>> 
>> There are a few arrows that don’t have alternative text for them, and I’m 
>> working my way through them.
>> 
>> And yesterday I couldn’t and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
>> jaws keystrokes in later versions.
>> 
>> Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other again..
>> 
>> The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
>> username if your organization doesn’t use email addresses for Simon.
>> 
>> It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a 
>> chat yesterday, so when I figure that out I’ll write up a quick guide for 
>> anyone who needs it.
>> 
>> Hope everyone’s having a great Friday.
>> 
>> Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I’m excited to implement 
>> them within the chat program. That’s going to save a lot of headache too. 
>> Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame… Which 
>> is information that I need for my Notes anyways…
>> 
>> 
>> With my best regards
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Host of the your own pay podcast…
>> 
>> Find it in your favorite podcast app
>> 
>> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[John Vernaleken`]

No problems JAWS 2018 and latest IE.

John


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I am using jaws 2018 and current IE without any problem.

-Original Message-
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"



Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[Mike Mote]

Hi there!  You can resolve this issue very easily.  When you are in Chrome, 
press Insert plus V to pull up your quick settings.  Then type copy in the 
search box.  You should have an option that comes up saying something like 
select copy f;ulll content.  You need to change this option by pressing the 
spacebar to copy from virtual  cursor.  Give this a try, and see if it resolves 
this problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

That would work, however I was hoping I wouldn’t have to virtualize a webpage 
that I assumed should already have been virtualized in order for me to copy and 
paste text. That’ll be a extra key stroke I have to use prior to manipulating 
the text from each center that I have to get, and apparently on some chance 
will have three or four centers we have to get information from. However, if 
that’s what I have to do, I’ll do it. Thanks for the suggestion and I’ll give 
it a try when I get to work in an hour or so.

With my best regards

Michael

Host of the your own pay podcast…

Find it in your favorite podcast app


> On Dec 15, 2017, at 5:38 AM, DGH  wrote:
> 
> Don't forget about virtualizing your window, insert alt w.
> You can select and copy text this way also.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:33 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job
> 
> Hey there everyone.
> 
> The new job is freaking amazing!
> 
> I say that, because I have yet to come across any “in accessible“ tool.
> 
> I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot easier, 
> and eventually I’ll be substantially faster than any other agent on the floor.
> 
> But, we have a slight issue!
> 
> 
> Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
> windows.
> 
> Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in chrome, 
> and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.
> 
> The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
> when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
> from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.
> 
> We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to look). 
> And jars version 2018. (Again today I’m going to check for update).
> 
> Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if 
> so, how did you fix it?
> 
> IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me 
> successful, it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven 
> years ago while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 
> percent as accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of 
> might have chatted our team lead up, and said once I’m set in my ways I’ll be 
> as productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also 
> sidenote, live person the chat client “live engage” (a product produced by 
> the company live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent 
> accessible on chrome.
> 
> There are a few arrows that don’t have alternative text for them, and I’m 
> working my way through them.
> 
> And yesterday I couldn’t and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
> jaws keystrokes in later versions.
> 
> Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other again..
> 
> The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
> username if your organization doesn’t use email addresses for Simon.
> 
> It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a 
> chat yesterday, so when I figure that out I’ll write up a quick guide for 
> anyone who needs it.
> 
> Hope everyone’s having a great Friday.
> 
> Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I’m excited to implement 
> them within the chat program. That’s going to save a lot of headache too. 
> Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame… Which is 
> information that I need for my Notes anyways…
> 
> 
> With my best regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> Host of the your own pay podcast…
> 
> Find it in your favorite podcast app
> 
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express

[Arianna Calesso]

Absolutely!  I use it every day.

Arianna
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express


I am using it with the latest JAWS and am having no difficulty.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "t" <1forjh...@gmail.com>

To: "jul" 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express


I’m having difficulties with wlm, and may need to download outlook express.
is OE easy to navigate with jaws?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[Michael Babcock]

That would work, however I was hoping I wouldn’t have to virtualize a webpage 
that I assumed should already have been virtualized in order for me to copy and 
paste text. That’ll be a extra key stroke I have to use prior to manipulating 
the text from each center that I have to get, and apparently on some chance 
will have three or four centers we have to get information from. However, if 
that’s what I have to do, I’ll do it. Thanks for the suggestion and I’ll give 
it a try when I get to work in an hour or so.

With my best regards

Michael

Host of the your own pay podcast…

Find it in your favorite podcast app


> On Dec 15, 2017, at 5:38 AM, DGH  wrote:
> 
> Don't forget about virtualizing your window, insert alt w.
> You can select and copy text this way also.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:33 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job
> 
> Hey there everyone.
> 
> The new job is freaking amazing!
> 
> I say that, because I have yet to come across any “in accessible“ tool.
> 
> I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot easier, 
> and eventually I’ll be substantially faster than any other agent on the floor.
> 
> But, we have a slight issue!
> 
> 
> Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
> windows.
> 
> Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in chrome, 
> and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.
> 
> The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
> when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
> from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.
> 
> We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to look). 
> And jars version 2018. (Again today I’m going to check for update).
> 
> Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if 
> so, how did you fix it?
> 
> IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me 
> successful, it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven 
> years ago while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 
> percent as accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of 
> might have chatted our team lead up, and said once I’m set in my ways I’ll be 
> as productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also 
> sidenote, live person the chat client “live engage” (a product produced by 
> the company live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent 
> accessible on chrome.
> 
> There are a few arrows that don’t have alternative text for them, and I’m 
> working my way through them.
> 
> And yesterday I couldn’t and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
> jaws keystrokes in later versions.
> 
> Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other again..
> 
> The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
> username if your organization doesn’t use email addresses for Simon.
> 
> It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a 
> chat yesterday, so when I figure that out I’ll write up a quick guide for 
> anyone who needs it.
> 
> Hope everyone’s having a great Friday.
> 
> Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I’m excited to implement 
> them within the chat program. That’s going to save a lot of headache too. 
> Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame… Which is 
> information that I need for my Notes anyways…
> 
> 
> With my best regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> Host of the your own pay podcast…
> 
> Find it in your favorite podcast app
> 
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[DGH]

Don't forget about virtualizing your window, insert alt w.
You can select and copy text this way also.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

Hey there everyone.

The new job is freaking amazing!

I say that, because I have yet to come across any “in accessible“ tool.

I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot easier, 
and eventually I’ll be substantially faster than any other agent on the floor.

But, we have a slight issue!


Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
windows.

Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in chrome, 
and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.

The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.

We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to look). 
And jars version 2018. (Again today I’m going to check for update).

Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if so, 
how did you fix it?

IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me successful, 
it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven years ago 
while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 percent as 
accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of might have 
chatted our team lead up, and said once I’m set in my ways I’ll be as 
productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also sidenote, 
live person the chat client “live engage” (a product produced by the company 
live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent accessible on 
chrome.

There are a few arrows that don’t have alternative text for them, and I’m 
working my way through them.

And yesterday I couldn’t and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
jaws keystrokes in later versions.

Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other again..

The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
username if your organization doesn’t use email addresses for Simon.

It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a chat 
yesterday, so when I figure that out I’ll write up a quick guide for anyone who 
needs it.

Hope everyone’s having a great Friday.

Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I’m excited to implement them 
within the chat program. That’s going to save a lot of headache too. 
Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame… Which is 
information that I need for my Notes anyways…


With my best regards

Michael

Host of the your own pay podcast…

Find it in your favorite podcast app


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Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

[Mike B.]

Yo Dude,

Arrow down a few times to, Hide protected operating system files 
(Recommended)-ON, spacebar this to, OFF, say Yes to the dialogue, tab to, 
Okay, & press enter to save & close.
- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder


Mike:
I'm looking for show hidden files, folders and drives right under the view
tab?
If that needs to be on, it's been on apparently.


If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/
Also, you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

Yo Brother from another Mother,

Once you unhide files & folders, highlight the AppData folder, press, Alt +
Enter, to open its properties, tab to, Hidden, & uncheck this box.  Now, you
need to tab to Okay, press spacebar, & I believe tab to, Okay, again & press
enter to save your changes.  Now this folder will always be  accessible.
Remember to go back into folder options & hide your files & folders again.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder


Thanks, that is what I thought.

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also,
you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

Hi

The appdata folder is hidden.  To see it, you need to change your folder
options to show hidden files.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 07:35
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

What up my brother from another mother!

I actually tried that first before Eric came to the rescue, but I couldn't
find the app data option of which you speak.
I wonder if something is hidden.

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also,
you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

Hi Kimsan,

Here's another way you can try:
1. Press the, Windows key + R, to open the Run dialogue.
2. Type a single period, ., , & press enter.  This puts you in your Name
folder of the Users folder.
3. Press enter on, App Data, navigate to the, Roaming, folder, & press
enter.
4. Navigate to the, Freedom Scientific, folder press enter, press enter on
the, Jaws, option, & select the version of Jaws you want to access the ENU
folder of.
5. Select, Settings, press enter, spacebar / select, ENU, press enter, &
there you are right smak dab in the ENU folder...  LOL
Note:  The above steps are predicated upon the fact that the Windows 10
folder structure is the same as Windows 7.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder


Thank you Eric.

I knew Explore Utilities was something I had to look for, but for the life
of me couldn't remember where it was located. I was all over this machine
looking for it.
Thank you very much.

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also,
you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder

To get into the ENU Folder where you would place third party scripts or
settings, do the following:

In Windows 10, go to the JAWS Utilities Menu.
Up arrow twice and you land on "Explore Utilities Folder".
Press enter and you will land in Windows Explore.
Here, you can press the letter "E" and move through 

[JAWS-Users] Copying and pasting on the new job

[Michael Babcock]

Hey there everyone.

The new job is freaking amazing!

I say that, because I have yet to come across any “in accessible“ tool.

I am learning more about flexible web, to make my job a hell of a lot easier, 
and eventually I’ll be substantially faster than any other agent on the floor.

But, we have a slight issue!


Good job consists of a lot of copying and pasting, while switching between 
windows.

Which is OK, except yesterday we noticed that when I selected text in chrome, 
and pressed control seat, that text was not copied to the clipboard.

The trainer sitting next to me said that she saw me highlight the text, but 
when we posted in notepad, the last object prior to meet selecting the text 
from the webpage and copying it was what was posted.

We are running the latest version of windows 10 (I think now I need to look). 
And jars version 2018. (Again today I’m going to check for update).

Has anyone came crossed the control see keystroke not copying text, and if so, 
how did you fix it?

IT is open to doing whatever I need them to do in order to make me successful, 
it helps that there are people on my team that I work with seven years ago 
while taking calls for sprint and the software was not even 25 percent as 
accessible as the software as were using now. Oh, and the kind of might have 
chatted our team lead up, and said once I’m set in my ways I’ll be as 
productive if not more productive than any other team member. Also sidenote, 
live person the chat client “live engage” (a product produced by the company 
live person called live in gauge) is I would say 90 percent accessible on 
chrome.

There are a few arrows that don’t have alternative text for them, and I’m 
working my way through them.

And yesterday I couldn’t and a chat, but I think that was due to my lack of 
jaws keystrokes in later versions.

Last night me and the help files became familiar with each other again..

The end chat button is found under VE Arrow next to your email address or 
username if your organization doesn’t use email addresses for Simon.

It is possible to click the button, because somehow I accidentally ended a chat 
yesterday, so when I figure that out I’ll write up a quick guide for anyone who 
needs it.

Hope everyone’s having a great Friday.

Oh yeah, and I reminded myself about frames, and I’m excited to implement them 
within the chat program. That’s going to save a lot of headache too. 
Especially, since I think I read I can copy the text within a frame… Which is 
information that I need for my Notes anyways…


With my best regards

Michael

Host of the your own pay podcast…

Find it in your favorite podcast app


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.

[Mike Mote]

You can press control plus the letter J, and get to your downloads folder.
>From there, you can see the file you are trying to download.  Hope this
helps!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.

Does f6 work?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.

Hello, Listers,

 

Again, I need another reminder.  When wanting to download in Google Chrome.
With IE, you can press alt-N and have the choice of open or save.  This
option is not available in Google Chrom per sae, but there must be another
way to get to any information bar like you would with alt-N in internet
explorer.

 

Thanks for the how-to reminder.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[David Ferrin]

It is also possible that the web page you are visiting might just be quite 
busy at that time as Amazon often is when I go over there, just a thought 
for folks to consider.


-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones

Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

This is how I am feeling, too.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it

better?"




Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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