Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
Gary, You asked: "...I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that." No. JAWS 2018, as others have said, is a completely different version from JAWS 18. You need to install JAWS 2018 from your DVD and then check for updates before you will be "up to date". Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt"To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 19:34 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion JAWS 2018 is not considered an update to JAWS 18. It's starts all over, and you need to install it separately from JAWS 18. You can do this with the 2018 disc or by updating from the VFO website. If you install from the CD, you'll need to update the way you do with JAWS 18, except you'll use the JAWS 2018 menu system, or else (again) by going to the website -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gary Lee Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 6:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion I understand how to get the version. what I have is jaws 18.0.4534.400 I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that. > On Jan 19, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Gary Lee wrote: > > What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? > I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. > > thanks for the help. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
JAWS 2018 is not considered an update to JAWS 18. It's starts all over, and you need to install it separately from JAWS 18. You can do this with the 2018 disc or by updating from the VFO website. If you install from the CD, you'll need to update the way you do with JAWS 18, except you'll use the JAWS 2018 menu system, or else (again) by going to the website -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gary Lee Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 6:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion I understand how to get the version. what I have is jaws 18.0.4534.400 I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that. > On Jan 19, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Gary Leewrote: > > What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? > I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. > > thanks for the help. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
JAWS 18 is the major version behind JAWS 2018. You will need to pay for, or use your SMA to upgrade just as you did from 17 or whatever previous version you used to 18. To see your build number, go to the JAWS window and press DOWN ARROW. You will be able to see if there is a new build of 18 available by going to Help > Check for Updates ... On 1/20/18, Gary Leewrote: > What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? > I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. > > thanks for the help. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
I understand how to get the version. what I have is jaws 18.0.4534.400 I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that. > On Jan 19, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Gary Leewrote: > > What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? > I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. > > thanks for the help. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking for System updates
Hi i just press windows key plus letter I. Then tab down once then arrow till you hear windows update then tab to the check for now for updates. Cheers Michael. > On 20 Jan 2018, at 4:41 am,> wrote: > > Morning all. > Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, can any of you good people > tell me the steps for getting system updates? Thanks in advance. > > Jerry > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws problems with large tables
Dear friend, when I opened your email, my JAWS has simply muted and my email client was crashed which is windows 10 mail app. I’m writing this email to you using narrator. I didn’t test your email with NVDA, but I hope that it will work with NVDA nicely. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement. At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddi...@gmail.com inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com outlook: inam...@outlook.com yahoo: inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca Add my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 Meet me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter ID: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Call me on my cell numbers: +92-300-2227598 +92-334-3348409 From: Cristóbal Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:34 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws problems with large tables Hello list, So, Ive been having problems with Jaws and large tables. As part of my business, I work with one vendor that sends out assignments via email to bid on. Jaws will often get sluggish or pause for a few seconds as I arrow down the columns and will frequently crash outright. Its become so much of an issue that Ive started to switch to NVDA when receiving one of these emails. I find myself even having to go into the task manager at times to kill any JFW processes in order to get Jaws back. Im currently on the latest JFW 2018, but these issues were also present in earlier versions of JFW 2018 as well as JFW 18. Im using Outlook 2016 on a Windows 10 desktop. This sluggishness also happens when I access the same emails on my laptop with the same operating specs. I use both eloquence with Jaws and NVDA. Again, NVDA seems to handle these tables fine. I reached out to Freedom Scientific with my problem and they wrote back saying that they couldnt reproduce my issue. So I was wondering if others were perhaps having similar problems with tables and Jaws? Ill go ahead and paste a sample email I get below. Any input would be appreciated. Dear Providers, Below is a list of assignments for your region. Please review the attached list of assignments and advise which assignments your company is able to cover at contract rate. Reply to this email with the file number(s) including dashes and your company name so that we can assign to the correct provider. Once your response is received, we will review the information and assignment details. **Turquoise highlight are Non Spanish ** * Only contract rate * Do not include rates in your response. * Do not add additional recipients to the response. * If you cannot commit to securing we kindly ask that you not respond. * If your company is chosen for the assignment, the information will be sent to your portal and via email. It is imperative that you accept via the email and complete your confirmations. If you are not assigned no further communication will be made. West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-06963-000137-014 1/20/2018 9:15 2 Connecticut St San Francisco CA 94107 San Francisco Vietnamese West In-Person Standard CA Other 1-09112-020864-020 1/20/2018 12:00 1971 E.ONSTOTT RD #35 YUBA CITY CA 95991 YUBA CITY Farsi West In-Person Standard CA Dr. Evaluation 1-01940-000237-007 1/20/2018 12:00 100 S Ellsworth Ave San Mateo CA 94401 San Mateo Burmese West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03472-001154-002 1/22/2018 7:00 3930 4th Ave San Diego CA 92103 San Diego Ethiopian West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03113-000408-005 1/22/2018 8:45 225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291 Visalia Portuguese West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2554-00821-154 1/22/2018 9:00 5510 Birdcage St Citrus Heights CA 95610 Citrus Heights Hmong West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-1406-01426-022 1/22/2018 9:45 2100 Webster St San Francisco CA 94115 San Francisco Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Physical Therapy 1-06849-000789-008 1/22/2018 9:50 7817 Oakport St Oakland CA 94621 Oakland Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-06576-02-005 1/22/2018 10:30 2850 7th St Berkeley CA 94710 Berkeley Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2292-00016-021 1/22/2018 10:45 225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291 Visalia Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Other 006-1104-00028-384 1/22/2018 11:00 7150 Sierra Ponds Ln Granite Bay CA 95746 Granite Bay Sign Language West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-3221-05268-028 1/22/2018 11:30 555 Front St San Francisco CA 94111 San Francisco Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-02492-001459-002 1/22/2018 13:15 801 Traeger Ave San Bruno CA 94066 San Bruno Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-01073-000737-002 1/22/2018 14:05 1028 N Douty St Hanford CA 93230 Hanford Arabic West In-Person Standard CA Other 001-2938-07365-019
Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Jaws problems with large tables
The desktop's got 8 GB of ram and an I7 processor. The laptop's got 16 GB and an I7 processor. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hans Pauli Sundstein Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 3:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Jaws problems with large tables Hi Christóbal. How much ram do you have on your computer? Probably it can be a problem, causing to less ram. I never recomend's a computer running Windows 10, Jaws 2018 and Microsoft Office, with less than 8 gb ram. Even with this setup, it sometimes can be a problem, when tables are very complex in structure, and there is Graphic included. I had no problem reading your table in the browser, but it is'nt the same as reading it in MS-Word. Hope you find a solution for your problem. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cristóbal Dato: 19. januar 2018 23:33 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] Jaws problems with large tables Hello list, So, I’ve been having problems with Jaws and large tables. As part of my business, I work with one vendor that sends out assignments via email to bid on. Jaws will often get sluggish or pause for a few seconds as I arrow down the columns and will frequently crash outright. It’s become so much of an issue that I’ve started to switch to NVDA when receiving one of these emails. I find myself even having to go into the task manager at times to kill any JFW processes in order to get Jaws back. I’m currently on the latest JFW 2018, but these issues were also present in earlier versions of JFW 2018 as well as JFW 18. I’m using Outlook 2016 on a Windows 10 desktop. This sluggishness also happens when I access the same emails on my laptop with the same operating specs. I use both eloquence with Jaws and NVDA. Again, NVDA seems to handle these tables fine. I reached out to Freedom Scientific with my problem and they wrote back saying that they couldn’t reproduce my issue. So… I was wondering if others were perhaps having similar problems with tables and Jaws? I’ll go ahead and paste a sample email I get below. Any input would be appreciated. Dear Providers, Below is a list of assignments for your region. Please review the attached list of assignments and advise which assignments your company is able to cover at contract rate. Reply to this email with the file number(s) including dashes and your company name so that we can assign to the correct provider. Once your response is received, we will review the information and assignment details. **Turquoise highlight are Non Spanish ** * Only contract rate * Do not include rates in your response. * Do not add additional recipients to the response. * If you cannot commit to securing we kindly ask that you not respond. * If your company is chosen for the assignment, the information will be sent to your portal and via email. It is imperative that you accept via the email and complete your confirmations. If you are not assigned no further communication will be made. West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-06963-000137-014 1/20/2018 9:15 2 Connecticut St San Francisco CA 94107 San Francisco Vietnamese West In-Person Standard CA Other 1-09112-020864-020 1/20/2018 12:00 1971 E.ONSTOTT RD #35 YUBA CITY CA 95991 YUBA CITY Farsi West In-Person Standard CA Dr. Evaluation 1-01940-000237-007 1/20/2018 12:00 100 S Ellsworth Ave San Mateo CA 94401 San Mateo Burmese West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03472-001154-002 1/22/2018 7:00 3930 4th Ave San Diego CA 92103 San Diego Ethiopian West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03113-000408-005 1/22/2018 8:45 225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291 Visalia Portuguese West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2554-00821-154 1/22/2018 9:00 5510 Birdcage St Citrus Heights CA 95610 Citrus Heights Hmong West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-1406-01426-022 1/22/2018 9:45 2100 Webster St San Francisco CA 94115 San Francisco Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Physical Therapy 1-06849-000789-008 1/22/2018 9:50 7817 Oakport St Oakland CA 94621 Oakland Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-06576-02-005 1/22/2018 10:30 2850 7th St Berkeley CA 94710 Berkeley Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2292-00016-021 1/22/2018 10:45 225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291 Visalia Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Other 006-1104-00028-384 1/22/2018 11:00 7150 Sierra Ponds Ln Granite Bay CA 95746 Granite Bay Sign Language West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-3221-05268-028 1/22/2018 11:30 555 Front St San Francisco CA 94111 San Francisco Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-02492-001459-002 1/22/2018 13:15 801 Traeger Ave San Bruno CA 94066 San Bruno Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-01073-000737-002 1/22/2018 14:05 1028 N Douty
Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Jaws problems with large tables
Hi Christóbal. How much ram do you have on your computer? Probably it can be a problem, causing to less ram. I never recomend's a computer running Windows 10, Jaws 2018 and Microsoft Office, with less than 8 gb ram. Even with this setup, it sometimes can be a problem, when tables are very complex in structure, and there is Graphic included. I had no problem reading your table in the browser, but it is'nt the same as reading it in MS-Word. Hope you find a solution for your problem. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cristóbal Dato: 19. januar 2018 23:33 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] Jaws problems with large tables Hello list, So, I’ve been having problems with Jaws and large tables. As part of my business, I work with one vendor that sends out assignments via email to bid on. Jaws will often get sluggish or pause for a few seconds as I arrow down the columns and will frequently crash outright. It’s become so much of an issue that I’ve started to switch to NVDA when receiving one of these emails. I find myself even having to go into the task manager at times to kill any JFW processes in order to get Jaws back. I’m currently on the latest JFW 2018, but these issues were also present in earlier versions of JFW 2018 as well as JFW 18. I’m using Outlook 2016 on a Windows 10 desktop. This sluggishness also happens when I access the same emails on my laptop with the same operating specs. I use both eloquence with Jaws and NVDA. Again, NVDA seems to handle these tables fine. I reached out to Freedom Scientific with my problem and they wrote back saying that they couldn’t reproduce my issue. So… I was wondering if others were perhaps having similar problems with tables and Jaws? I’ll go ahead and paste a sample email I get below. Any input would be appreciated. Dear Providers, Below is a list of assignments for your region. Please review the attached list of assignments and advise which assignments your company is able to cover at contract rate. Reply to this email with the file number(s) including dashes and your company name so that we can assign to the correct provider. Once your response is received, we will review the information and assignment details. **Turquoise highlight are Non Spanish ** * Only contract rate * Do not include rates in your response. * Do not add additional recipients to the response. * If you cannot commit to securing we kindly ask that you not respond. * If your company is chosen for the assignment, the information will be sent to your portal and via email. It is imperative that you accept via the email and complete your confirmations. If you are not assigned no further communication will be made. West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-06963-000137-014 1/20/2018 9:15 2 Connecticut St San Francisco CA 94107 San Francisco Vietnamese West In-Person Standard CA Other 1-09112-020864-020 1/20/2018 12:00 1971 E.ONSTOTT RD #35 YUBA CITY CA 95991 YUBA CITY Farsi West In-Person Standard CA Dr. Evaluation 1-01940-000237-007 1/20/2018 12:00 100 S Ellsworth Ave San Mateo CA 94401 San Mateo Burmese West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03472-001154-002 1/22/2018 7:00 3930 4th Ave San Diego CA 92103 San Diego Ethiopian West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03113-000408-005 1/22/2018 8:45 225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291 Visalia Portuguese West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2554-00821-154 1/22/2018 9:00 5510 Birdcage St Citrus Heights CA 95610 Citrus Heights Hmong West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-1406-01426-022 1/22/2018 9:45 2100 Webster St San Francisco CA 94115 San Francisco Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Physical Therapy 1-06849-000789-008 1/22/2018 9:50 7817 Oakport St Oakland CA 94621 Oakland Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-06576-02-005 1/22/2018 10:30 2850 7th St Berkeley CA 94710 Berkeley Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2292-00016-021 1/22/2018 10:45 225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291 Visalia Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Other 006-1104-00028-384 1/22/2018 11:00 7150 Sierra Ponds Ln Granite Bay CA 95746 Granite Bay Sign Language West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-3221-05268-028 1/22/2018 11:30 555 Front St San Francisco CA 94111 San Francisco Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-02492-001459-002 1/22/2018 13:15 801 Traeger Ave San Bruno CA 94066 San Bruno Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-01073-000737-002 1/22/2018 14:05 1028 N Douty St Hanford CA 93230 Hanford Arabic West In-Person Standard CA Other 001-2938-07365-019 1/22/2018 14:30 2923 Webster St Oakland CA 94609 Oakland Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-00708-000407-004 1/22/2018 14:30 462 W Napa St Sonoma CA 95476 Sonoma Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Physical Therapy 1-01039-75-019 1/22/2018 14:30 7425
[JAWS-Users] Jaws problems with large tables
Hello list, So, Ive been having problems with Jaws and large tables. As part of my business, I work with one vendor that sends out assignments via email to bid on. Jaws will often get sluggish or pause for a few seconds as I arrow down the columns and will frequently crash outright. Its become so much of an issue that Ive started to switch to NVDA when receiving one of these emails. I find myself even having to go into the task manager at times to kill any JFW processes in order to get Jaws back. Im currently on the latest JFW 2018, but these issues were also present in earlier versions of JFW 2018 as well as JFW 18. Im using Outlook 2016 on a Windows 10 desktop. This sluggishness also happens when I access the same emails on my laptop with the same operating specs. I use both eloquence with Jaws and NVDA. Again, NVDA seems to handle these tables fine. I reached out to Freedom Scientific with my problem and they wrote back saying that they couldnt reproduce my issue. So I was wondering if others were perhaps having similar problems with tables and Jaws? Ill go ahead and paste a sample email I get below. Any input would be appreciated. Dear Providers, Below is a list of assignments for your region. Please review the attached list of assignments and advise which assignments your company is able to cover at contract rate. Reply to this email with the file number(s) including dashes and your company name so that we can assign to the correct provider. Once your response is received, we will review the information and assignment details. **Turquoise highlight are Non Spanish ** * Only contract rate * Do not include rates in your response. * Do not add additional recipients to the response. * If you cannot commit to securing we kindly ask that you not respond. * If your company is chosen for the assignment, the information will be sent to your portal and via email. It is imperative that you accept via the email and complete your confirmations. If you are not assigned no further communication will be made. West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-06963-000137-014 1/20/2018 9:15 2 Connecticut St San Francisco CA 94107 San Francisco Vietnamese West In-Person Standard CA Other 1-09112-020864-020 1/20/2018 12:00 1971 E.ONSTOTT RD #35 YUBA CITY CA 95991 YUBA CITY Farsi West In-Person Standard CA Dr. Evaluation 1-01940-000237-007 1/20/2018 12:00 100 S Ellsworth Ave San Mateo CA 94401 San Mateo Burmese West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03472-001154-002 1/22/2018 7:00 3930 4th Ave San Diego CA 92103 San Diego Ethiopian West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03113-000408-005 1/22/2018 8:45 225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291 Visalia Portuguese West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2554-00821-154 1/22/2018 9:00 5510 Birdcage St Citrus Heights CA 95610 Citrus Heights Hmong West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-1406-01426-022 1/22/2018 9:45 2100 Webster St San Francisco CA 94115 San Francisco Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Physical Therapy 1-06849-000789-008 1/22/2018 9:50 7817 Oakport St Oakland CA 94621 Oakland Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-06576-02-005 1/22/2018 10:30 2850 7th St Berkeley CA 94710 Berkeley Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2292-00016-021 1/22/2018 10:45 225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291 Visalia Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Other 006-1104-00028-384 1/22/2018 11:00 7150 Sierra Ponds Ln Granite Bay CA 95746 Granite Bay Sign Language West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-3221-05268-028 1/22/2018 11:30 555 Front St San Francisco CA 94111 San Francisco Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-02492-001459-002 1/22/2018 13:15 801 Traeger Ave San Bruno CA 94066 San Bruno Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-01073-000737-002 1/22/2018 14:05 1028 N Douty St Hanford CA 93230 Hanford Arabic West In-Person Standard CA Other 001-2938-07365-019 1/22/2018 14:30 2923 Webster St Oakland CA 94609 Oakland Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-00708-000407-004 1/22/2018 14:30 462 W Napa St Sonoma CA 95476 Sonoma Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Physical Therapy 1-01039-75-019 1/22/2018 14:30 7425 Mission Valley Rd San Diego CA 92108 San Diego Korean West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-2102-03281-009 1/22/2018 15:00 2027 VILLAGE LANE Solvang CA 93463 Solvang Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 001-1217-01636-041 1/22/2018 15:15 34 Mark West Springs Rd Santa Rosa CA 95403 Santa Rosa Spanish West In-Person Standard CA Doctor 1-03696-000253-007 1/22/2018 15:40 2801 K St Sacramento CA 95816 Sacramento Portuguese West In-Person Standard CA Physical Therapy 1-09108-000620-019 1/22/2018 16:30 2850 7th St Berkeley CA 94710 Berkeley Mien West In-Person Medical Certified CA
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
Hi Gary Lee, Jaws 18 & Jaws 2018 are 2 different versions of Jaws, Jaws 2018 being the most recent of the 2. You said, What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? See where? Are you trying to determine which version of Jaws you have running? Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Gary Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:18 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. thanks for the help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
Gary: When you are on the Jaws screen, press the Insert Key along with the control key and V. This will tell you what version you have. -Original Message- From: Gary Lee Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 2:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. thanks for the help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. thanks for the help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers
I found this to be quite interesting and helpful. The Amazon web site detects if you are using jaws, probably other screen readers as well. Anyway when it detects jaws a screen overlay is also displayed giving phone number contact information for people with disabilities. The other day I needed to call and asked Karen to bring up the page on her I pad. She told me that there is no such number. I came upstairs and there it was. She since did a search and learned that it detects screen readers. What great customer service. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Checking for System updates
Morning all. Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, can any of you good people tell me the steps for getting system updates? Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running
Cheers. I will. I'm not on any, but probably should be. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 19, 2018 11:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Please keep us posted. Maybe ask on any tech lists if you're on them. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running So far, I think that for some reason, having the programme replace task manager and activated by the requisite short-cut, is not having it run as administrator. It does run as administrator when I run the programme from its folder, causing the usual UAC prompt. Maybe changing the file attributes would help. I admit I don't fully understand how those work. Not sure why this is a thing as the programme's publisher is now Microsoft and it should be a "trusted app". The best solution I can think of at the moment is to create a short-cut and run it from your desktop, instead of using the usual task manager keystroke. If you do this, you can set in the shortcut to always run programme as admin as well. I know it's not ideal. I've searched around on the web and so far haven't really come up with much. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 18, 2018 7:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running I noted the same thing when killing explorer.exe let us know if you figure it out. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Hey Dennis. No instalation required really. You can just download it from the sysinternals page, or grab the big zip archive of sysinternals utilities (which includes autoruns for checking startup items and a lot of other useful things that are kind of above my level of expertise). Remember to choose the 64 bit version if you are running 64 bit oS, or some processes will not show up. AS for making it the new task manager, it's done within the programme. Just pick the "replace task manager" item from the options menu. You might still have to make sure the programme runs as administrator. I'm experimenting with this now because I noticed it won't let you kill certain processes, like explorer.exe, whereas the regular task manager does (useful if windows stops working properly because explorer always automatically restarts after being killed). Anyway, I think there might be a way to fix that. If you have problems, go to the path of the programme executable and under the "compatibility" tab of the properties dialog, check the "run this programme as administrator" box. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 18, 2018 1:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running How do you install process explorer and get control shift escape to work to bring it up? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Hm. I'm not sure. I didn't use Windows 7 much, admittedly. I don't really remember how the native task manager is different, except the Windows 10 one is supposedly more sophisticated, and, well, a bit more like Process Explorer. However, PE still runs about ten times faster than Task manager on my windows 10 machine. There's more documentation here: https://www.howtogeek.com/school/sysinternals-pro/lesson2/ -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 16, 2018 6:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Is there anything in particular we should change to make it look like the one in win7? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Ok. So I just opened up process explorer
Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running
Please keep us posted. Maybe ask on any tech lists if you're on them. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running So far, I think that for some reason, having the programme replace task manager and activated by the requisite short-cut, is not having it run as administrator. It does run as administrator when I run the programme from its folder, causing the usual UAC prompt. Maybe changing the file attributes would help. I admit I don't fully understand how those work. Not sure why this is a thing as the programme's publisher is now Microsoft and it should be a "trusted app". The best solution I can think of at the moment is to create a short-cut and run it from your desktop, instead of using the usual task manager keystroke. If you do this, you can set in the shortcut to always run programme as admin as well. I know it's not ideal. I've searched around on the web and so far haven't really come up with much. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 18, 2018 7:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running I noted the same thing when killing explorer.exe let us know if you figure it out. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Hey Dennis. No instalation required really. You can just download it from the sysinternals page, or grab the big zip archive of sysinternals utilities (which includes autoruns for checking startup items and a lot of other useful things that are kind of above my level of expertise). Remember to choose the 64 bit version if you are running 64 bit oS, or some processes will not show up. AS for making it the new task manager, it's done within the programme. Just pick the "replace task manager" item from the options menu. You might still have to make sure the programme runs as administrator. I'm experimenting with this now because I noticed it won't let you kill certain processes, like explorer.exe, whereas the regular task manager does (useful if windows stops working properly because explorer always automatically restarts after being killed). Anyway, I think there might be a way to fix that. If you have problems, go to the path of the programme executable and under the "compatibility" tab of the properties dialog, check the "run this programme as administrator" box. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 18, 2018 1:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running How do you install process explorer and get control shift escape to work to bring it up? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Hm. I'm not sure. I didn't use Windows 7 much, admittedly. I don't really remember how the native task manager is different, except the Windows 10 one is supposedly more sophisticated, and, well, a bit more like Process Explorer. However, PE still runs about ten times faster than Task manager on my windows 10 machine. There's more documentation here: https://www.howtogeek.com/school/sysinternals-pro/lesson2/ -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 16, 2018 6:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Is there anything in particular we should change to make it look like the one in win7? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Ok. So I just opened up process explorer for the first time in a while, and despite being quite a bit more detailed, it's a lot faster. I also forgot that all these utilities are now owned by microsoft, which probably explains why it's so easy to make it your new task manager. It also should reassure anyone who might feel weird about replacing a core windows component with
[JAWS-Users] Alt N and Allow Popups Once?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running
So far, I think that for some reason, having the programme replace task manager and activated by the requisite short-cut, is not having it run as administrator. It does run as administrator when I run the programme from its folder, causing the usual UAC prompt. Maybe changing the file attributes would help. I admit I don't fully understand how those work. Not sure why this is a thing as the programme's publisher is now Microsoft and it should be a "trusted app". The best solution I can think of at the moment is to create a short-cut and run it from your desktop, instead of using the usual task manager keystroke. If you do this, you can set in the shortcut to always run programme as admin as well. I know it's not ideal. I've searched around on the web and so far haven't really come up with much. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 18, 2018 7:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running I noted the same thing when killing explorer.exe let us know if you figure it out. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Hey Dennis. No instalation required really. You can just download it from the sysinternals page, or grab the big zip archive of sysinternals utilities (which includes autoruns for checking startup items and a lot of other useful things that are kind of above my level of expertise). Remember to choose the 64 bit version if you are running 64 bit oS, or some processes will not show up. AS for making it the new task manager, it's done within the programme. Just pick the "replace task manager" item from the options menu. You might still have to make sure the programme runs as administrator. I'm experimenting with this now because I noticed it won't let you kill certain processes, like explorer.exe, whereas the regular task manager does (useful if windows stops working properly because explorer always automatically restarts after being killed). Anyway, I think there might be a way to fix that. If you have problems, go to the path of the programme executable and under the "compatibility" tab of the properties dialog, check the "run this programme as administrator" box. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 18, 2018 1:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running How do you install process explorer and get control shift escape to work to bring it up? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Hm. I'm not sure. I didn't use Windows 7 much, admittedly. I don't really remember how the native task manager is different, except the Windows 10 one is supposedly more sophisticated, and, well, a bit more like Process Explorer. However, PE still runs about ten times faster than Task manager on my windows 10 machine. There's more documentation here: https://www.howtogeek.com/school/sysinternals-pro/lesson2/ -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: January 16, 2018 6:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Is there anything in particular we should change to make it look like the one in win7? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Task Manager in Windows 10 is really slow when JAWS is running Ok. So I just opened up process explorer for the first time in a while, and despite being quite a bit more detailed, it's a lot faster. I also forgot that all these utilities are now owned by microsoft, which probably explains why it's so easy to make it your new task manager. It also should reassure anyone who might feel weird about replacing a core windows component with something else. Your ctrl-shift-escape key short-cut will still work, too. I strongly suggest downloading this and using it instead. I tested the "replace task manager option on my Windows 10 machine and it works perfectly. Be aware that there is a 64 and a 32 bit version of process explorer. The 32 bit version will not show 64 bit applications, though I