Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and the Powerpoint accessibility checker

[wayne smith]

Sounds good but where is the link to the list?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Roger Newell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and the Powerpoint accessibility checker

I believe it was actually introduced in 2007 or 2010.

On a side note, Microsoft just published a complete list of accessibility
features in all of their products, and the list is enormous. It's definitely
worth checking out.

On 2/23/18, JM Casey  wrote:
> Huh. I thought the checker had only been introduced in office 2016. 
> Learn something new
>
> You have to press f6 to get to the pane where the results are shown. I 
> used to use it at my old job but now I'm on Office 2010 at home so 
> can't check to verify anything else. But that should help.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Ritz, Courtney L. (GSFC-7200)
> Sent: February 22, 2018 12:14 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and the Powerpoint accessibility checker
>
> Hi,
>
> Apologies if this has been asked before, I'm in a bit of a time-crunch.
>
> I'm running Windows 7 and JAWS version 17.0.2729.
> In Office 2013, I opened a Powerpoint file, and ran the accessibility 
> check on it.  Sadly, I can't figure out how to read the actual results 
> of the check.  Anyone know how to do it with JAWS?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Courtney
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and firefox 52

[net bat66]

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/
it won't tell you which version it is until you start to download it

-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

I just went to FF and looked at the update they are offering. It is 56. 
something and I did not see a 52 option so can you tell me where to look for 
it?


Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

It doesn't sound like everybody is reporting this IE issue.

Still, it makes sense to accustom oneself to moving away from IE. I know it has 
some decent features, but it's increasingly ineffective and unusable on some 
websites. I don't know when security updates for it will stop .. probably not 
til 2020 as that's when Windows 7 support ends ... but still.


Firefox 52 ESR is currently the thing to get if you are wanting to use FF and 
JAWS. It works without any issues. There has been some difficulty in adapting 
JAWS to Firefox Quantum, but they are working on it. You could also use NVDA. 
Really, nowadays it makes sense to have both screen-readers on your machine.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell

Sent: February 22, 2018 6:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

So, if JAWS is working crappily in FireFox and now Internet Explorer as well, 
...?



Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 2/22/2018 5:46 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

Yes sir, my Internet Explorer is crashing like crazy now as well.  Great!


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 2/22/2018 4:43 PM, T. Civitello wrote:

I installed the latest Jaws bill on my Windows 7 PC this morning. I
tried two Web sites that I was able to work with yesterday; Amazon
and Comcast.net. Today I can’t do a thing with them If they do read
there is a 10 to 15 second delay between lines and a good part of the
time I have to tab away and back to the Web to get Jaws talking
again. What did FS do?  Tom For answers to frequently asked questions
about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

[wayne smith]

I just went to FF and looked at the update they are offering. It is 56. 
something and I did not see a 52 option so can you tell me where to look for it?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

It doesn't sound like everybody is reporting this IE issue.

Still, it makes sense to accustom oneself to moving away from IE. I know it has 
some decent features, but it's increasingly ineffective and unusable on some 
websites. I don't know when security updates for it will stop .. probably not 
til 2020 as that's when Windows 7 support ends ... but still.

Firefox 52 ESR is currently the thing to get if you are wanting to use FF and 
JAWS. It works without any issues. There has been some difficulty in adapting 
JAWS to Firefox Quantum, but they are working on it. You could also use NVDA. 
Really, nowadays it makes sense to have both screen-readers on your machine.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: February 22, 2018 6:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

So, if JAWS is working crappily in FireFox and now Internet Explorer as well, 
...?


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 2/22/2018 5:46 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> Yes sir, my Internet Explorer is crashing like crazy now as well.  Great!
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 2/22/2018 4:43 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
>> I installed the latest Jaws bill on my Windows 7 PC this morning. I 
>> tried two Web sites that I was able to work with yesterday; Amazon 
>> and Comcast.net. Today I can’t do a thing with them If they do read 
>> there is a 10 to 15 second delay between lines and a good part of the 
>> time I have to tab away and back to the Web to get Jaws talking 
>> again. What did FS do?  Tom For answers to frequently asked questions 
>> about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Mitch]

Hi,  Nicely summarized and I stipulate that the complexity of meshing all of 
this digital dance into a smooth experience must be a daily challenge but with 
the avalanche of wide ranging issues exposed in just one week, it cannot be 
dismissed that playing Whack A Mole and What’s Behind Door # 3 is becoming a 
frustration inversely proportional to the age of the operator.  Mitch

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I hear you; sometimes I definitely feel the same. The fact that, between,
for example, VFO and Microsoft, half the time when there's some kind of
update you are crossing your fingers hoping something won't be broken
afterwards, is pretty maddening.

The reply above yours from David there says "voiceover on the mac". At first
I kind of scoffed at that. I'm not a mac user and probably never will be.
But here's the thing. As PC users, I think we are given a variety of options
and tools, and that's one of the great things about being a PC users. I used
to access the web through Telnet and a linux shell. The only browser that
would work was lynx and it couldn't display framed webpages properly. It was
a really frustrating experience back then, for sure. Then, finally, we had
Internet Explorer and netscape. Then, internet Explorer, Firefox, and
Chrome. I think the idea of the web being an entirely universal experience
is a nice dream, but still a dream. All you can do is try to make it as
close to a universal experience as you can. That's actually harder and
harder now with the number of connected devices out there. Often, it's
Microsoft that won't play along. I think we'll probably see more and more
people using Chrome, and that's probably a good thing. Just today I had to
get it up and running again and it was nice to be reminded how fast and
robust it really is. Are things complex? Yeah, definitely. But these
browsers aren't so different from one another that we can't adapt. We just
have to know what tool is appropriate for each job. If you're a carpenter,
you probably won't get very far with just a single saw in your arsenal, you
know? And rest assured, even though screen-readers do add a certain amount
of complexity to things, sighted people have to deal with this too. Let's be
glad we aren't system administrators (although maybe you are? I don't
know)that opens a whole new can o' worms, when you've got a network of
computers, all running different software and hardware, and your company
expects you to get them all to play nice with each other. 

Now maybe it's just because I have more time on my hands this year than I
used to, but 90% of the time, I enjoy the challenge and adding new tools to
the arsenal, so to speak. The only thing  that's really making me nervous
sometimes is Windows 10 updating and screwing around with my settings and
things. *grins*



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: February 23, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I agree that it's necessary to have all three browsers installed, but this
increasing complexity is a little nuts. People are suggesting that we should
also have the two screenreaders, JAWS and NVDA, on board, which I do. But
that means we may need to try six combinations before we can access certain
websites. Then there's the question of which version of JAWS will work. 

To give an example, a certain website I use is accessible to IE11, but it
moves painfully slowly after the log-in page. Chrome gets to this page right
away, but later there's a critical page on this same website that Chrome
can't even open. 

For a while, I was trying to access this website with Firefox, but Firefox
couldn't locate the edit fields for the username and password fields, and so
obviously I couldn't log in. Then, on a whim, I switched from JAWS 2018 and
18, which I already need to alternate between, to JAWS 17. Lo and behold,
the edit fields appeared. After that, Firefox and JAWS 17 seem to move
seamlessly through the entire website. 

This is a website that requires logging in to test, which is why I'm not
posting the address. 

The amount of time and distraction involved for screenreader users in
working on the Web lately is getting ludicrous. Maybe VFO's efforts to work
with MS on Edge will bring us back to a single universal browser. Until
then, the lives of screenreader users are complicated. My ambition is to
work as fast on a computer as fast as a non-techy sighted user, but all this
browser/screenreader/version number switching is an obstacle to fast,
distraction-free browsing. I can't imagine what it's like for a new
screenreader user.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Ba

Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

VFO is the company we used to call freedom scientific, and some other still do.

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Michele Thredgold  
wrote:

What does VFOSTAND for? I looked it up on an acronymp page I've saved, but 
there seemed no entries which seemed applicable to Internet Explorer, excep, 
maybe, 'virtual field office'.

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Mr. Ed  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, 23 February 2018 10:55 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

> 
> 
> Hi,
The latest Jaws update seem to be working just fine with IE to me on two 
computers. Maybe you need to reset your IE. Here below are the steps to reset 
IE.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE 
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something about 
checking this box to delete personal information. Press the 
spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new. 
Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove your 
favorites in IE. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11
So, if JAWS is working crappily in FireFox and now Internet Explorer as well, 
'''?

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
-St. Francis
> On 2/22/2018 5:46 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> Yes sir, my Internet Explorer is crashing like crazy now as well.  Great!
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> -St. Francis
> 
>> On 2/22/2018 4:43 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
>> I installed the latest Jaws bill on my Windows 7 PC this morning. I 
>> tried two Web sites that I was able to work with yesterday; Amazon 
>> and Comcast.net. Today I can't do a thing with them If they do read 
>> there is a 10 to 15 second delay between lines and a good part of the 
>> time I have to tab away and back to the Web to get Jaws talking 
>> again. What did FS do?  Tom
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

[Michele Thredgold]

What does VFOSTAND for? I looked it up on an acronymp page I've saved, but 
there seemed no entries which seemed applicable to Internet Explorer, excep, 
maybe, 'virtual field office'.

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Mr. Ed  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, 23 February 2018 10:55 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

>
>
> Hi,
The latest Jaws update seem to be working just fine with IE to me on two 
computers. Maybe you need to reset your IE. Here below are the steps to reset 
IE.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE 
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something about 
checking this box to delete  personal information. Press the 
spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new. 
Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove your 
favorites in IE. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11
So, if JAWS is working crappily in FireFox and now Internet Explorer as well, 
'''?

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
-St. Francis
On 2/22/2018 5:46 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> Yes sir, my Internet Explorer is crashing like crazy now as well.  Great!
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> -St. Francis
>
> On 2/22/2018 4:43 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
>> I installed the latest Jaws bill on my Windows 7 PC this morning. I 
>> tried two Web sites that I was able to work with yesterday; Amazon 
>> and Comcast.net. Today I can't do a thing with them If they do read 
>> there is a 10 to 15 second delay between lines and a good part of the 
>> time I have to tab away and back to the Web to get Jaws talking 
>> again. What did FS do?  Tom
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Greg Washington]

I agree wholeheartedly!!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I agree that the level of frustration for me is getting pretty hard to take
some days. But actually, for the average sighted computer user, they tend to
pick one browser they like and they can do whatever they want on it. There's
no jumping around and spending an hour going between three browsers with one
website trying to see what will work so you can buy that one thing you want,
when a sighted person is done in ten minutes. There needs to be some
continuity here seems to me. Jmho  Judy & Libby

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I hear you; sometimes I definitely feel the same. The fact that, between,
for example, VFO and Microsoft, half the time when there's some kind of
update you are crossing your fingers hoping something won't be broken
afterwards, is pretty maddening.

The reply above yours from David there says "voiceover on the mac". At first
I kind of scoffed at that. I'm not a mac user and probably never will be.
But here's the thing. As PC users, I think we are given a variety of options
and tools, and that's one of the great things about being a PC users. I used
to access the web through Telnet and a linux shell. The only browser that
would work was lynx and it couldn't display framed webpages properly. It was
a really frustrating experience back then, for sure. Then, finally, we had
Internet Explorer and netscape. Then, internet Explorer, Firefox, and
Chrome. I think the idea of the web being an entirely universal experience
is a nice dream, but still a dream. All you can do is try to make it as
close to a universal experience as you can. That's actually harder and
harder now with the number of connected devices out there. Often, it's
Microsoft that won't play along. I think we'll probably see more and more
people using Chrome, and that's probably a good thing. Just today I had to
get it up and running again and it was nice to be reminded how fast and
robust it really is. Are things complex? Yeah, definitely. But these
browsers aren't so different from one another that we can't adapt. We just
have to know what tool is appropriate for each job. If you're a carpenter,
you probably won't get very far with just a single saw in your arsenal, you
know? And rest assured, even though screen-readers do add a certain amount
of complexity to things, sighted people have to deal with this too. Let's be
glad we aren't system administrators (although maybe you are? I don't
know)that opens a whole new can o' worms, when you've got a network of
computers, all running different software and hardware, and your company
expects you to get them all to play nice with each other. 

Now maybe it's just because I have more time on my hands this year than I
used to, but 90% of the time, I enjoy the challenge and adding new tools to
the arsenal, so to speak. The only thing  that's really making me nervous
sometimes is Windows 10 updating and screwing around with my settings and
things. *grins*



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: February 23, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I agree that it's necessary to have all three browsers installed, but this
increasing complexity is a little nuts. People are suggesting that we should
also have the two screenreaders, JAWS and NVDA, on board, which I do. But
that means we may need to try six combinations before we can access certain
websites. Then there's the question of which version of JAWS will work. 

To give an example, a certain website I use is accessible to IE11, but it
moves painfully slowly after the log-in page. Chrome gets to this page right
away, but later there's a critical page on this same website that Chrome
can't even open. 

For a while, I was trying to access this website with Firefox, but Firefox
couldn't locate the edit fields for the username and password fields, and so
obviously I couldn't log in. Then, on a whim, I switched from JAWS 2018 and
18, which I already need to alternate between, to JAWS 17. Lo and behold,
the edit fields appeared. After that, Firefox and JAWS 17 seem to move
seamlessly through the entire website. 

This is a website that requires logging in to test, which is why I'm not
posting the address. 

The amount of time and distraction involved for screenreader users in
working on the Web lately is getting ludicrous. Maybe VFO's efforts to work
with MS on Edge will br

Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Judy]

I agree that the level of frustration for me is getting pretty hard to take
some days. But actually, for the average sighted computer user, they tend to
pick one browser they like and they can do whatever they want on it. There's
no jumping around and spending an hour going between three browsers with one
website trying to see what will work so you can buy that one thing you want,
when a sighted person is done in ten minutes. There needs to be some
continuity here seems to me. Jmho  Judy & Libby

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I hear you; sometimes I definitely feel the same. The fact that, between,
for example, VFO and Microsoft, half the time when there's some kind of
update you are crossing your fingers hoping something won't be broken
afterwards, is pretty maddening.

The reply above yours from David there says "voiceover on the mac". At first
I kind of scoffed at that. I'm not a mac user and probably never will be.
But here's the thing. As PC users, I think we are given a variety of options
and tools, and that's one of the great things about being a PC users. I used
to access the web through Telnet and a linux shell. The only browser that
would work was lynx and it couldn't display framed webpages properly. It was
a really frustrating experience back then, for sure. Then, finally, we had
Internet Explorer and netscape. Then, internet Explorer, Firefox, and
Chrome. I think the idea of the web being an entirely universal experience
is a nice dream, but still a dream. All you can do is try to make it as
close to a universal experience as you can. That's actually harder and
harder now with the number of connected devices out there. Often, it's
Microsoft that won't play along. I think we'll probably see more and more
people using Chrome, and that's probably a good thing. Just today I had to
get it up and running again and it was nice to be reminded how fast and
robust it really is. Are things complex? Yeah, definitely. But these
browsers aren't so different from one another that we can't adapt. We just
have to know what tool is appropriate for each job. If you're a carpenter,
you probably won't get very far with just a single saw in your arsenal, you
know? And rest assured, even though screen-readers do add a certain amount
of complexity to things, sighted people have to deal with this too. Let's be
glad we aren't system administrators (although maybe you are? I don't
know)that opens a whole new can o' worms, when you've got a network of
computers, all running different software and hardware, and your company
expects you to get them all to play nice with each other. 

Now maybe it's just because I have more time on my hands this year than I
used to, but 90% of the time, I enjoy the challenge and adding new tools to
the arsenal, so to speak. The only thing  that's really making me nervous
sometimes is Windows 10 updating and screwing around with my settings and
things. *grins*



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: February 23, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I agree that it's necessary to have all three browsers installed, but this
increasing complexity is a little nuts. People are suggesting that we should
also have the two screenreaders, JAWS and NVDA, on board, which I do. But
that means we may need to try six combinations before we can access certain
websites. Then there's the question of which version of JAWS will work. 

To give an example, a certain website I use is accessible to IE11, but it
moves painfully slowly after the log-in page. Chrome gets to this page right
away, but later there's a critical page on this same website that Chrome
can't even open. 

For a while, I was trying to access this website with Firefox, but Firefox
couldn't locate the edit fields for the username and password fields, and so
obviously I couldn't log in. Then, on a whim, I switched from JAWS 2018 and
18, which I already need to alternate between, to JAWS 17. Lo and behold,
the edit fields appeared. After that, Firefox and JAWS 17 seem to move
seamlessly through the entire website. 

This is a website that requires logging in to test, which is why I'm not
posting the address. 

The amount of time and distraction involved for screenreader users in
working on the Web lately is getting ludicrous. Maybe VFO's efforts to work
with MS on Edge will bring us back to a single universal browser. Until
then, the lives of screenreader users are complicated. My ambition is to
work as fast on a computer as fast as a non-techy sighted user, but all this
browser/screenreader/version number switching is an obstacle to fast,
distraction

Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Geovanni Bahena]

Personally, I feel that chrome works way better with Jaws as of now.


On 2/23/2018 1:42 PM, Karen Schrade wrote:

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws

[Roger Newell]

If you are using JAWS 18 and want Australian English voices, you
should download voices for Vocalizer Expressive version 2.2.

On 2/24/18, Michele Thredgold  wrote:
> Do you need vocaliser if you’re using jaws 18?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 23 Feb 2018, at 9:33 am, JM Casey  wrote:
>>
>> Cheers. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Naomi Bolter
>> Sent: February 22, 2018 5:55 PM
>> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
>>
>> Thanks, my poor brain got over loaded I think, I obviously did not read
>> all
>> the info properly.
>>
>> Thank you again!
>>
>>
>> Naomi Bolter |Design and Stewardship - Homelessness |
>> Commissioning | Department of Family & Community Services | Level 3,
>> 223-239
>> Liverpool Road | Ashfield NSW 2131 | Locked Bag 4001 | Ashfield BC | NSW
>> 1800 | Tel: 8753 9004 | Email: naomi.bol...@facs.nsw.gov.au
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of JM Casey
>> Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2018 6:16 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> What synthesizer are you using currently? Which synth did you download? I
>> believe Vocalizer Expressive 2.0 will not work with older JAWS version
>> than
>> 17, or maybe 18. So you must pick one of the other synths. You might have
>> to
>> enable the synth in utilities, synthesizer manager under the JAWS menu, as
>> well.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Naomi Bolter
>> Sent: February 21, 2018 11:24 PM
>> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I hope you are all well, wherever you are.
>>
>> I use jaws 16 on a laptop computer for work. I just tried down loading the
>> voice pack for jaws.
>> I installed it, restarted the pc but jaws is still not announcing any new
>> voices in the voice settings.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what I am not doing, or doing wrong please?
>>
>> Many thanks, and my apologies, I'm a little bit technologically
>> challenged!
>>
>>
>> Naomi Bolter |Design and Stewardship - Homelessness | Commissioning |
>> Department of Family & Community Services | Level 3, 223-239 Liverpool
>> Road
>> | Ashfield NSW 2131 | Locked Bag 4001 | Ashfield BC | NSW 1800 | Tel:
>> | 8753
>> 9004 | Email:
>> naomi.bol...@facs.nsw.gov.au
>>
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[JAWS-Users] Issues with JAWS 2018 updated with Excel

[George Martinez Sr.]

I updated my JAWS 2018 this morning in Windows 10, 1709.
It helped a lot with some nagging issues in my Outlook 2016.
However, VFO has some work to do in Excel 2016.
I use the export to Excel feature in QuickBooks almost daily and once the
Excel interface comes up JAWS 2018 does not read the Initial radial box
selection until I use INS + 5, also there is a Default button at the bottom
called EXPORT and JAWS does not initially announce it.  At least I can press
ALT + X and activate it.
In addition, in Excel when I am combining workbooks into Sheets in one
workbook when I shift tab into the Dialog that names the Open Excel
workbooks I had several files that began with 2018 and 2017 and JAWS read me
"20" on both.  Again when I pressed INS + 5 it read me the entire file name
but it should read the entire file name not just the first 2 characters.
In addition, I am on the QuickBooks testing team and JAWS 2018 will not
properly read QuickBooks lists of either memorized Reports or Transactions
in either QuickBooks 2017 or 2018..  
On all of the above JAWS 18 does a very nice job.
I just rebooted into JAWS 18 and now am compiling a list for JAWS team.
FROWN
 
George A. Martinez, CPA
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F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[JM Casey]

It is pretty snappy. I was using it earlier today. Things were going great
until I tried to get to a page by manually editing a url. Then, for some
reason, even though everything was up on the screen, JAWS couldn't find
anything. Even the links list, which I hardly ever use, brought up nothing
to click on. Oh wellnothing's perfect. Using Chrome is a pretty cool,
and fast, experience.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: February 23, 2018 6:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

Lol, I prefer Chrome.  It's snappier than version 52 of Firefox and the
newer versions like 58 don't work with Jaws yet, although they do work with
NVDA.

There was a tutorial that Dave Moore recently posted about how to work with
Chrome; and really, it works well with the newer versions of Jaws like 17
and up.


- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser


> HI.
>
> My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
> have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work 
> well,
> but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
> gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
> Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
> find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both 
> on
> your machine. Keep your options open.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Karen Schrade
> Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser
>
> I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to 
> switch
> from IE11 to another browser...
> Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
> smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
> some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Brian Zolo]

Good evening, I'm brian Zolo here from Gahanna, Ohio.  I'm having a senior
moment as I'm just really getting into using firefox as I've been an
internet explorer user for years but since internet explorer is going away
and more sites are not supporting it, I've decided to switch.  What's the
keystroke to access your bookmarks?  Thanks so much, have a great weekend!
.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

HI.

My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work well,
but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both on
your machine. Keep your options open. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Adrian Spratt]

This is useful information, but for the record, once the four files are 
downloaded, clicking on the .OPF file will open it in FS Reader.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

You need to open FsReader and open the attachment from within it.  You might be 
able to make the attachment open in FsReader by default.
But, I usually save all four attachments to the computer when I use it this way 
and open the .xml file using FsReader.



- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


So I was able to get the email stuff set up. I'm seeing that for each
periodical, I'm getting four attachments per email with xml and other Daisy
extensions. I've tried opening them directly from the email, but it's not
working. Is this something where I have to download the files first only to
then be able to open in an application?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Yes, and you can do it in one of two ways: either the first issue of the
paper, or have it email you all updates (i.e. some papers continue posting
articles to various sections throughout the day).


- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


> Let me ask this. I'ts been forever and a day that I've logged into the
> NFBNewsline website since I mainly do it over the iPhone. Is there in fact

> a
> way to have the day's daily papers marked as favorites automatically
> emailed
> to oneself?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:40 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> It never occurred to me to do anything except to go to the website and
> find
> the links. I have several publications in My Favorites although I must
> admit
> that basically, I use Newsline to look through the book review section of
> the New York Times on Sunday and to look at any important news story in
> Long
> Island's newsday, if I receive an interesting headline in an email from
> the
> paper. But it would never occur to me to do anything complicated to read
> material from Newsline. Additionally, I've discovered that sometimes, the
> publications they have don't include all of the material that's actually
> in
> the issues or sometimes, only partial articles are there.
>
> Miriam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> That's due to the fact that Freedom Scientific insists on bundling
> FSReader,
> its own daisy reader with its installations.
>
> NFB Newsline, when it detects a Jaws screen-reader in use, won't let you
> read daisy files in another program except to use FS Reader.
>
> If you want to use your Outlook program to do it, you'll need to unload
> Jaws
> and use an alternate screen-reader.
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
>
>> Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me
>> some
>
>> tips on how to do it?
>>
>> Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With
>> Office 2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word
>> in order to read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but
>> workable.
>> But this file association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.
>>
>> I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
>> This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
>> Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.
>>
>> Any ideas?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws

[JM Casey]

The Vocalizer 2.0 system came out along with JAWS 18. You do not need it, no. 
But you can certainly get it. Go to the downloads, synthesizers page (you can 
reach it from the jAWS help menu I believe) if you want it. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Michele Thredgold
Sent: February 23, 2018 4:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws

Do you need vocaliser if you’re using jaws 18?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Feb 2018, at 9:33 am, JM Casey  wrote:
> 
> Cheers. :)
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Naomi Bolter
> Sent: February 22, 2018 5:55 PM
> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
> 
> Thanks, my poor brain got over loaded I think, I obviously did not 
> read all the info properly.
> 
> Thank you again!
> 
> 
> Naomi Bolter |Design and Stewardship - Homelessness | Commissioning | 
> Department of Family & Community Services | Level 3, 223-239 Liverpool 
> Road | Ashfield NSW 2131 | Locked Bag 4001 | Ashfield BC | NSW
> 1800 | Tel: 8753 9004 | Email: naomi.bol...@facs.nsw.gov.au
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2018 6:16 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
> 
> Hi.
> 
> What synthesizer are you using currently? Which synth did you 
> download? I believe Vocalizer Expressive 2.0 will not work with older 
> JAWS version than 17, or maybe 18. So you must pick one of the other 
> synths. You might have to enable the synth in utilities, synthesizer 
> manager under the JAWS menu, as well.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Naomi Bolter
> Sent: February 21, 2018 11:24 PM
> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I hope you are all well, wherever you are.
> 
> I use jaws 16 on a laptop computer for work. I just tried down loading 
> the voice pack for jaws.
> I installed it, restarted the pc but jaws is still not announcing any 
> new voices in the voice settings.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I am not doing, or doing wrong please?
> 
> Many thanks, and my apologies, I'm a little bit technologically challenged!
> 
> 
> Naomi Bolter |Design and Stewardship - Homelessness | Commissioning | 
> Department of Family & Community Services | Level 3, 223-239 Liverpool 
> Road
> | Ashfield NSW 2131 | Locked Bag 4001 | Ashfield BC | NSW 1800 | Tel: 
> | 8753
> 9004 | Email:
> naomi.bol...@facs.nsw.gov.au
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[JM Casey]

I hear you; sometimes I definitely feel the same. The fact that, between,
for example, VFO and Microsoft, half the time when there's some kind of
update you are crossing your fingers hoping something won't be broken
afterwards, is pretty maddening.

The reply above yours from David there says "voiceover on the mac". At first
I kind of scoffed at that. I'm not a mac user and probably never will be.
But here's the thing. As PC users, I think we are given a variety of options
and tools, and that's one of the great things about being a PC users. I used
to access the web through Telnet and a linux shell. The only browser that
would work was lynx and it couldn't display framed webpages properly. It was
a really frustrating experience back then, for sure. Then, finally, we had
Internet Explorer and netscape. Then, internet Explorer, Firefox, and
Chrome. I think the idea of the web being an entirely universal experience
is a nice dream, but still a dream. All you can do is try to make it as
close to a universal experience as you can. That's actually harder and
harder now with the number of connected devices out there. Often, it's
Microsoft that won't play along. I think we'll probably see more and more
people using Chrome, and that's probably a good thing. Just today I had to
get it up and running again and it was nice to be reminded how fast and
robust it really is. Are things complex? Yeah, definitely. But these
browsers aren't so different from one another that we can't adapt. We just
have to know what tool is appropriate for each job. If you're a carpenter,
you probably won't get very far with just a single saw in your arsenal, you
know? And rest assured, even though screen-readers do add a certain amount
of complexity to things, sighted people have to deal with this too. Let's be
glad we aren't system administrators (although maybe you are? I don't
know)that opens a whole new can o' worms, when you've got a network of
computers, all running different software and hardware, and your company
expects you to get them all to play nice with each other. 

Now maybe it's just because I have more time on my hands this year than I
used to, but 90% of the time, I enjoy the challenge and adding new tools to
the arsenal, so to speak. The only thing  that's really making me nervous
sometimes is Windows 10 updating and screwing around with my settings and
things. *grins*



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: February 23, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I agree that it's necessary to have all three browsers installed, but this
increasing complexity is a little nuts. People are suggesting that we should
also have the two screenreaders, JAWS and NVDA, on board, which I do. But
that means we may need to try six combinations before we can access certain
websites. Then there's the question of which version of JAWS will work. 

To give an example, a certain website I use is accessible to IE11, but it
moves painfully slowly after the log-in page. Chrome gets to this page right
away, but later there's a critical page on this same website that Chrome
can't even open. 

For a while, I was trying to access this website with Firefox, but Firefox
couldn't locate the edit fields for the username and password fields, and so
obviously I couldn't log in. Then, on a whim, I switched from JAWS 2018 and
18, which I already need to alternate between, to JAWS 17. Lo and behold,
the edit fields appeared. After that, Firefox and JAWS 17 seem to move
seamlessly through the entire website. 

This is a website that requires logging in to test, which is why I'm not
posting the address. 

The amount of time and distraction involved for screenreader users in
working on the Web lately is getting ludicrous. Maybe VFO's efforts to work
with MS on Edge will bring us back to a single universal browser. Until
then, the lives of screenreader users are complicated. My ambition is to
work as fast on a computer as fast as a non-techy sighted user, but all this
browser/screenreader/version number switching is an obstacle to fast,
distraction-free browsing. I can't imagine what it's like for a new
screenreader user.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I use Chrome and IE 11 but have suspended using Firefox until accessibility
issues are cleared up.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Judy Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser


> Amen to all that, I also have NVDA, and it seems to get better and better.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-us

Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Steve]

Lol, I prefer Chrome.  It's snappier than version 52 of Firefox and the 
newer versions like 58 don't work with Jaws yet, although they do work with 
NVDA.


There was a tutorial that Dave Moore recently posted about how to work with 
Chrome; and really, it works well with the newer versions of Jaws like 17 
and up.



- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser



HI.

My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work 
well,

but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both 
on

your machine. Keep your options open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to 
switch

from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Steve]

You need to open FsReader and open the attachment from within it.  You might 
be able to make the attachment open in FsReader by default.
But, I usually save all four attachments to the computer when I use it this 
way and open the .xml file using FsReader.




- Original Message - 
From: "Cristóbal" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


So I was able to get the email stuff set up. I'm seeing that for each
periodical, I'm getting four attachments per email with xml and other Daisy
extensions. I've tried opening them directly from the email, but it's not
working. Is this something where I have to download the files first only to
then be able to open in an application?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Yes, and you can do it in one of two ways: either the first issue of the
paper, or have it email you all updates (i.e. some papers continue posting
articles to various sections throughout the day).


- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS



Let me ask this. I'ts been forever and a day that I've logged into the
NFBNewsline website since I mainly do it over the iPhone. Is there in fact



a
way to have the day's daily papers marked as favorites automatically
emailed
to oneself?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

It never occurred to me to do anything except to go to the website and
find
the links. I have several publications in My Favorites although I must
admit
that basically, I use Newsline to look through the book review section of
the New York Times on Sunday and to look at any important news story in
Long
Island's newsday, if I receive an interesting headline in an email from
the
paper. But it would never occur to me to do anything complicated to read
material from Newsline. Additionally, I've discovered that sometimes, the
publications they have don't include all of the material that's actually
in
the issues or sometimes, only partial articles are there.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

That's due to the fact that Freedom Scientific insists on bundling
FSReader,
its own daisy reader with its installations.

NFB Newsline, when it detects a Jaws screen-reader in use, won't let you
read daisy files in another program except to use FS Reader.

If you want to use your Outlook program to do it, you'll need to unload
Jaws
and use an alternate screen-reader.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS



Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me
some



tips on how to do it?

Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With
Office 2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word
in order to read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but
workable.
But this file association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.

I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.

Any ideas?
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[JAWS-Users] Excel 13 Curiosity

[jyandt.martin]

Evening all.
I was curious about something in Excel 13. When I do an auto Fit of a cell or 
column, does it extend the cell to accommodate the text in it, or does it 
shrink the text? Thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

Answer: Voiceover on a Mac?

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Adrian Spratt  wrote:

I agree that it's necessary to have all three browsers installed, but this 
increasing complexity is a little nuts. People are suggesting that we should 
also have the two screenreaders, JAWS and NVDA, on board, which I do. But that 
means we may need to try six combinations before we can access certain 
websites. Then there's the question of which version of JAWS will work. 

To give an example, a certain website I use is accessible to IE11, but it moves 
painfully slowly after the log-in page. Chrome gets to this page right away, 
but later there's a critical page on this same website that Chrome can't even 
open. 

For a while, I was trying to access this website with Firefox, but Firefox 
couldn't locate the edit fields for the username and password fields, and so 
obviously I couldn't log in. Then, on a whim, I switched from JAWS 2018 and 18, 
which I already need to alternate between, to JAWS 17. Lo and behold, the edit 
fields appeared. After that, Firefox and JAWS 17 seem to move seamlessly 
through the entire website. 

This is a website that requires logging in to test, which is why I'm not 
posting the address. 

The amount of time and distraction involved for screenreader users in working 
on the Web lately is getting ludicrous. Maybe VFO's efforts to work with MS on 
Edge will bring us back to a single universal browser. Until then, the lives of 
screenreader users are complicated. My ambition is to work as fast on a 
computer as fast as a non-techy sighted user, but all this 
browser/screenreader/version number switching is an obstacle to fast, 
distraction-free browsing. I can't imagine what it's like for a new 
screenreader user.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I use Chrome and IE 11 but have suspended using Firefox until accessibility 
issues are cleared up.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Judy Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser


> Amen to all that, I also have NVDA, and it seems to get better and better.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 11:54 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser
> 
> I couldn't agree more with having multiple browsers.  There are certain 
> web
> pages that just don't work well with a certain browser, but will work much
> better with another.
> 
> I have Firefox, Chrome and IE on my PC and use them all depending on the
> circumstance.  I also have NVDA in addition to JAWS, for the same reason.
> 
> The more tools available, the better, in my opinion.
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf 
> of
> JM Casey [crystallo...@ca.inter.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser
> 
> HI.
> 
> My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
> have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work 
> well,
> but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
> gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
> Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
> find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both 
> on
> your machine. Keep your options open.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Karen Schrade
> Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser
> 
> I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to 
> switch
> from IE11 to another browser...
> Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
> smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
> some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Adrian Spratt]

I agree that it's necessary to have all three browsers installed, but this 
increasing complexity is a little nuts. People are suggesting that we should 
also have the two screenreaders, JAWS and NVDA, on board, which I do. But that 
means we may need to try six combinations before we can access certain 
websites. Then there's the question of which version of JAWS will work. 

To give an example, a certain website I use is accessible to IE11, but it moves 
painfully slowly after the log-in page. Chrome gets to this page right away, 
but later there's a critical page on this same website that Chrome can't even 
open. 

For a while, I was trying to access this website with Firefox, but Firefox 
couldn't locate the edit fields for the username and password fields, and so 
obviously I couldn't log in. Then, on a whim, I switched from JAWS 2018 and 18, 
which I already need to alternate between, to JAWS 17. Lo and behold, the edit 
fields appeared. After that, Firefox and JAWS 17 seem to move seamlessly 
through the entire website. 

This is a website that requires logging in to test, which is why I'm not 
posting the address. 

The amount of time and distraction involved for screenreader users in working 
on the Web lately is getting ludicrous. Maybe VFO's efforts to work with MS on 
Edge will bring us back to a single universal browser. Until then, the lives of 
screenreader users are complicated. My ambition is to work as fast on a 
computer as fast as a non-techy sighted user, but all this 
browser/screenreader/version number switching is an obstacle to fast, 
distraction-free browsing. I can't imagine what it's like for a new 
screenreader user.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I use Chrome and IE 11 but have suspended using Firefox until accessibility 
issues are cleared up.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Judy Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser


> Amen to all that, I also have NVDA, and it seems to get better and better.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 11:54 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser
>
> I couldn't agree more with having multiple browsers.  There are certain 
> web
> pages that just don't work well with a certain browser, but will work much
> better with another.
>
> I have Firefox, Chrome and IE on my PC and use them all depending on the
> circumstance.  I also have NVDA in addition to JAWS, for the same reason.
>
> The more tools available, the better, in my opinion.
>
> Pam
>
>
> 
> From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf 
> of
> JM Casey [crystallo...@ca.inter.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser
>
> HI.
>
> My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
> have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work 
> well,
> but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
> gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
> Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
> find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both 
> on
> your machine. Keep your options open.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Karen Schrade
> Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser
>
> I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to 
> switch
> from IE11 to another browser...
> Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
> smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
> some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws

[Michele Thredgold]

Do you need vocaliser if you’re using jaws 18?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Feb 2018, at 9:33 am, JM Casey  wrote:
> 
> Cheers. :)
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Naomi Bolter
> Sent: February 22, 2018 5:55 PM
> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
> 
> Thanks, my poor brain got over loaded I think, I obviously did not read all
> the info properly.
> 
> Thank you again!
> 
> 
> Naomi Bolter |Design and Stewardship - Homelessness |
> Commissioning | Department of Family & Community Services | Level 3, 223-239
> Liverpool Road | Ashfield NSW 2131 | Locked Bag 4001 | Ashfield BC | NSW
> 1800 | Tel: 8753 9004 | Email: naomi.bol...@facs.nsw.gov.au
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2018 6:16 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
> 
> Hi.
> 
> What synthesizer are you using currently? Which synth did you download? I
> believe Vocalizer Expressive 2.0 will not work with older JAWS version than
> 17, or maybe 18. So you must pick one of the other synths. You might have to
> enable the synth in utilities, synthesizer manager under the JAWS menu, as
> well.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Naomi Bolter
> Sent: February 21, 2018 11:24 PM
> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Australian English voice pack for jaws
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I hope you are all well, wherever you are.
> 
> I use jaws 16 on a laptop computer for work. I just tried down loading the
> voice pack for jaws.
> I installed it, restarted the pc but jaws is still not announcing any new
> voices in the voice settings.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I am not doing, or doing wrong please?
> 
> Many thanks, and my apologies, I'm a little bit technologically challenged!
> 
> 
> Naomi Bolter |Design and Stewardship - Homelessness | Commissioning |
> Department of Family & Community Services | Level 3, 223-239 Liverpool Road
> | Ashfield NSW 2131 | Locked Bag 4001 | Ashfield BC | NSW 1800 | Tel: 
> | 8753
> 9004 | Email:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Andy Baracco]

I use Chrome and IE 11 but have suspended using Firefox until accessibility 
issues are cleared up.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser



Amen to all that, I also have NVDA, and it seems to get better and better.

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 11:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I couldn't agree more with having multiple browsers.  There are certain 
web

pages that just don't work well with a certain browser, but will work much
better with another.

I have Firefox, Chrome and IE on my PC and use them all depending on the
circumstance.  I also have NVDA in addition to JAWS, for the same reason.

The more tools available, the better, in my opinion.

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf 
of

JM Casey [crystallo...@ca.inter.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

HI.

My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work 
well,

but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both 
on

your machine. Keep your options open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to 
switch

from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Judy Jones]

Amen to all that, I also have NVDA, and it seems to get better and better.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 11:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I couldn't agree more with having multiple browsers.  There are certain web
pages that just don't work well with a certain browser, but will work much
better with another.

I have Firefox, Chrome and IE on my PC and use them all depending on the
circumstance.  I also have NVDA in addition to JAWS, for the same reason.

The more tools available, the better, in my opinion.

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of
JM Casey [crystallo...@ca.inter.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

HI.

My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work well,
but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both on
your machine. Keep your options open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Judy Jones]

I use either Chrome or IE 11.  I liked Firefox well enough, but kept on
crashing.

I think Chrome is my favorite, but there are elements on certain sites that
do not show up in Chrome that I can access with ie11, so I am currently
using it pretty much.

Judy


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of George Martinez Sr.
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

Hello Karen,
I hear you.
Last year when I was 70 I left IE-11 kicking & screaming due to necessity;
while some bank sites stopped allowing me access the IRS and many related
sites will not allow me to access without IE-11.
So, I now use Chrome with no problems and keep IE-11 on my task bar for IRS
related sites.
There are some good tutorials around for Chrome but it is fairly straight
forward.

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

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Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[JM Casey]

Yes, same here, exactly. Well, I have Edge on this machine too, but to be
honest I haven't even really opened it. NVDA's web support is fantastic.
JAWS probably has better Office support. Since I don't have any more JAWS
upgrades on my ILM, I'll very likely end up doing most web-browsing with
nVDA in future unless that changes. It's fine. We have all these tools; the
only thinking stopping us, is time. Granted it can take time to learn a new
piece of software. Luckily the WWW was made to be kind of universal and most
browsers have similar operating principles. And it's not like we haven't had
forewarning. Sure, IE will continue to receive security updates until at
least 2020 (2025 if we're going to be optimistic, even), but we all know the
web itself is going to change a good deal before then, so there's more at
stake than mere security.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I couldn't agree more with having multiple browsers.  There are certain web
pages that just don't work well with a certain browser, but will work much
better with another.

I have Firefox, Chrome and IE on my PC and use them all depending on the
circumstance.  I also have NVDA in addition to JAWS, for the same reason.

The more tools available, the better, in my opinion.

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of
JM Casey [crystallo...@ca.inter.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

HI.

My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work well,
but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both on
your machine. Keep your options open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

I couldn't agree more with having multiple browsers.  There are certain web 
pages that just don't work well with a certain browser, but will work much 
better with another.

I have Firefox, Chrome and IE on my PC and use them all depending on the 
circumstance.  I also have NVDA in addition to JAWS, for the same reason.

The more tools available, the better, in my opinion.

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of JM 
Casey [crystallo...@ca.inter.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

HI.

My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work well,
but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both on
your machine. Keep your options open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[George Martinez Sr.]

Hello Karen,
I hear you.
Last year when I was 70 I left IE-11 kicking & screaming due to necessity;
while some bank sites stopped allowing me access the IRS and many related
sites will not allow me to access without IE-11.
So, I now use Chrome with no problems and keep IE-11 on my task bar for IRS
related sites.
There are some good tutorials around for Chrome but it is fairly straight
forward.

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[JM Casey]

HI.

My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work well,
but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both on
your machine. Keep your options open. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen 


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[JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

[Karen Schrade]

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to switch
from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Cher,

I have noticed issues with maximizing the window if I am in IE 11 also.  For 
me, it takes me to my default home page for IE 11.  Is that what happens to you 
when you maximize?

I am running JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 on Windows 7.

Pam



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Cher Bosch [oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Cher Bosch]

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] No issues with IE 11 and jaws current update. Using W10.Re: Latest Jaws and IE 11

[Cher Bosch]

Maria- I am not having difficulty with Firefox- using the extended release 
version. I'm also using chrome more and more.

Cher



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Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] No issues with IE 11 and jaws current update. Using 
W10.Re: Latest Jaws and IE 11


-Original Message-
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

So, if JAWS is working crappily in FireFox and now Internet Explorer as well, 
...?


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 2/22/2018 5:46 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> Yes sir, my Internet Explorer is crashing like crazy now as well.  Great!
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 2/22/2018 4:43 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
>> I installed the latest Jaws bill on my Windows 7 PC this morning. I 
>> tried two Web sites that I was able to work with yesterday; Amazon 
>> and Comcast.net. Today I can’t do a thing with them If they do read 
>> there is a 10 to 15 second delay between lines and a good part of the 
>> time I have to tab away and back to the Web to get Jaws talking 
>> again. What did FS do?  Tom For answers to frequently asked questions 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

[JM Casey]

Well, if you read my message, you would know that I stated that security
updates will at least continue until 2020. That's two years. Plenty of time
for people to migrate to other applications. So you are right: no need to
panic ... only to take steps to improve the web-browsing  experience, which
is already falling by the wayside as far as IE is concerned. Maybe you do
not have trouble using certain websites that you frequent with this browser;
I do, and others do as well, and given that Microsoft is stridently
encouraging  people to migrate to Windows 10, and, they suppose, use Edge,
isn't entirely surprising.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

J.M. and Others,

There is a real distortion of facts when J.M. Casey stated that Microsoft
Internet Explorer is losing support.  This conflating of facts will cause
needless panic by people.

As of January 12, 2016, Microsoft stopped supporting older versions of
Internet Explorer.  This means versions below IE11, and so by definition,
anybody with Windows 2000, XP or Vista has lost security updates and
support.

For those running Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10, Internet Explorer 11
continues to receive security and other updates, and it will continue to do
so throough the life-cycle for that specific operating system.

Steve,
Lansing, MI 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

[Steve]

J.M. and Others,

There is a real distortion of facts when J.M. Casey stated that Microsoft 
Internet Explorer is losing support.  This conflating of facts will cause 
needless panic by people.


As of January 12, 2016, Microsoft stopped supporting older versions of 
Internet Explorer.  This means versions below IE11, and so by definition, 
anybody with Windows 2000, XP or Vista has lost security updates and 
support.


For those running Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10, Internet Explorer 11 
continues to receive security and other updates, and it will continue to do 
so throough the life-cycle for that specific operating system.


Steve,
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS, correction

[Adrian Spratt]

Well, I've just determine that downloading just the .OPF file to disc won't 
enable it to open with FS Reader. You need to download all four files, and only 
then click on the .OPF file. 
I'm finding managing attachments in Outlook 2016 much more reliable than I was 
used to. First, as with Outlook Express, you can get to the attachments filed 
with JAWS key+a. Focus lands on the first attachment in the event there's more 
than one. Place focus on any file that interests you and press alt+down arrow 
to arrow down through a list of actions. 
In this case, one action is to save all attachments. Press enter and follow the 
prompts.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:15 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

If you want to read the publication with a DAISY player, save the .OPF 
attachment (in my experience, the fourth attachment) to a folder, then click on 
it. The text should open in the player, in my case FS Reader 3.0.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

So I was able to get the email stuff set up. I'm seeing that for each 
periodical, I'm getting four attachments per email with xml and other Daisy 
extensions. I've tried opening them directly from the email, but it's not 
working. Is this something where I have to download the files first only to 
then be able to open in an application?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Yes, and you can do it in one of two ways: either the first issue of the paper, 
or have it email you all updates (i.e. some papers continue posting articles to 
various sections throughout the day).


- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


> Let me ask this. I'ts been forever and a day that I've logged into the 
> NFBNewsline website since I mainly do it over the iPhone. Is there in 
> fact

> a
> way to have the day's daily papers marked as favorites automatically 
> emailed to oneself?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:40 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> It never occurred to me to do anything except to go to the website and 
> find the links. I have several publications in My Favorites although I 
> must admit that basically, I use Newsline to look through the book 
> review section of the New York Times on Sunday and to look at any 
> important news story in Long Island's newsday, if I receive an 
> interesting headline in an email from the paper. But it would never 
> occur to me to do anything complicated to read material from Newsline. 
> Additionally, I've discovered that sometimes, the publications they 
> have don't include all of the material that's actually in the issues 
> or sometimes, only partial articles are there.
>
> Miriam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> That's due to the fact that Freedom Scientific insists on bundling 
> FSReader, its own daisy reader with its installations.
>
> NFB Newsline, when it detects a Jaws screen-reader in use, won't let 
> you read daisy files in another program except to use FS Reader.
>
> If you want to use your Outlook program to do it, you'll need to 
> unload Jaws and use an alternate screen-reader.
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
>
>> Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me 
>> some
>
>> tips on how to do it?
>>
>> Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With 
>> Office 2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word 
>> in order to read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but 
>> workable.
>> But this file association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.
>>
>> I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
>> This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with 
>> FS Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.
>>
>> Any ideas?
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
>
> F

Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Adrian Spratt]

If you want to read the publication with a DAISY player, save the .OPF 
attachment (in my experience, the fourth attachment) to a folder, then click on 
it. The text should open in the player, in my case FS Reader 3.0.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

So I was able to get the email stuff set up. I'm seeing that for each 
periodical, I'm getting four attachments per email with xml and other Daisy 
extensions. I've tried opening them directly from the email, but it's not 
working. Is this something where I have to download the files first only to 
then be able to open in an application?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Yes, and you can do it in one of two ways: either the first issue of the paper, 
or have it email you all updates (i.e. some papers continue posting articles to 
various sections throughout the day).


- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


> Let me ask this. I'ts been forever and a day that I've logged into the 
> NFBNewsline website since I mainly do it over the iPhone. Is there in 
> fact

> a
> way to have the day's daily papers marked as favorites automatically 
> emailed to oneself?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:40 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> It never occurred to me to do anything except to go to the website and 
> find
> the links. I have several publications in My Favorites although I must 
> admit
> that basically, I use Newsline to look through the book review section of
> the New York Times on Sunday and to look at any important news story in 
> Long
> Island's newsday, if I receive an interesting headline in an email from 
> the
> paper. But it would never occur to me to do anything complicated to read
> material from Newsline. Additionally, I've discovered that sometimes, the
> publications they have don't include all of the material that's actually 
> in
> the issues or sometimes, only partial articles are there.
>
> Miriam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> That's due to the fact that Freedom Scientific insists on bundling 
> FSReader,
> its own daisy reader with its installations.
>
> NFB Newsline, when it detects a Jaws screen-reader in use, won't let you
> read daisy files in another program except to use FS Reader.
>
> If you want to use your Outlook program to do it, you'll need to unload 
> Jaws
> and use an alternate screen-reader.
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
>
>> Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me
>> some
>
>> tips on how to do it?
>>
>> Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With
>> Office 2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word
>> in order to read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but 
>> workable.
>> But this file association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.
>>
>> I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
>> This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
>> Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[wayne smith]

I use the SD card in my Victor Reader and I am not sure if you can read it
directly from the computer. You could contact NFB Newsline directly to get a
better idea of your options.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 11:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

So I was able to get the email stuff set up. I’m seeing that for each
periodical, I'm getting four attachments per email with xml and other Daisy
extensions. I've tried opening them directly from the email, but it's not
working. Is this something where I have to download the files first only to
then be able to open in an application?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Yes, and you can do it in one of two ways: either the first issue of the
paper, or have it email you all updates (i.e. some papers continue posting
articles to various sections throughout the day).


- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


> Let me ask this. I'ts been forever and a day that I've logged into the 
> NFBNewsline website since I mainly do it over the iPhone. Is there in 
> fact

> a
> way to have the day's daily papers marked as favorites automatically 
> emailed to oneself?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:40 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> It never occurred to me to do anything except to go to the website and 
> find
> the links. I have several publications in My Favorites although I must 
> admit
> that basically, I use Newsline to look through the book review section of
> the New York Times on Sunday and to look at any important news story in 
> Long
> Island's newsday, if I receive an interesting headline in an email from 
> the
> paper. But it would never occur to me to do anything complicated to read
> material from Newsline. Additionally, I've discovered that sometimes, the
> publications they have don't include all of the material that's actually 
> in
> the issues or sometimes, only partial articles are there.
>
> Miriam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> That's due to the fact that Freedom Scientific insists on bundling 
> FSReader,
> its own daisy reader with its installations.
>
> NFB Newsline, when it detects a Jaws screen-reader in use, won't let you
> read daisy files in another program except to use FS Reader.
>
> If you want to use your Outlook program to do it, you'll need to unload 
> Jaws
> and use an alternate screen-reader.
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
>
>> Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me
>> some
>
>> tips on how to do it?
>>
>> Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With
>> Office 2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word
>> in order to read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but 
>> workable.
>> But this file association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.
>>
>> I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
>> This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
>> Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Cristóbal]

So I was able to get the email stuff set up. I’m seeing that for each
periodical, I'm getting four attachments per email with xml and other Daisy
extensions. I've tried opening them directly from the email, but it's not
working. Is this something where I have to download the files first only to
then be able to open in an application?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Yes, and you can do it in one of two ways: either the first issue of the
paper, or have it email you all updates (i.e. some papers continue posting
articles to various sections throughout the day).


- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


> Let me ask this. I'ts been forever and a day that I've logged into the
> NFBNewsline website since I mainly do it over the iPhone. Is there in fact

> a
> way to have the day's daily papers marked as favorites automatically 
> emailed
> to oneself?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:40 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> It never occurred to me to do anything except to go to the website and 
> find
> the links. I have several publications in My Favorites although I must 
> admit
> that basically, I use Newsline to look through the book review section of
> the New York Times on Sunday and to look at any important news story in 
> Long
> Island's newsday, if I receive an interesting headline in an email from 
> the
> paper. But it would never occur to me to do anything complicated to read
> material from Newsline. Additionally, I've discovered that sometimes, the
> publications they have don't include all of the material that's actually 
> in
> the issues or sometimes, only partial articles are there.
>
> Miriam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> That's due to the fact that Freedom Scientific insists on bundling 
> FSReader,
> its own daisy reader with its installations.
>
> NFB Newsline, when it detects a Jaws screen-reader in use, won't let you
> read daisy files in another program except to use FS Reader.
>
> If you want to use your Outlook program to do it, you'll need to unload 
> Jaws
> and use an alternate screen-reader.
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
>
>> Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me
>> some
>
>> tips on how to do it?
>>
>> Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With
>> Office 2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word
>> in order to read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but 
>> workable.
>> But this file association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.
>>
>> I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
>> This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
>> Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Baseball season is here

[Maria Campbell]

Here is the link I got from the MLB people.

https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 2/23/2018 4:25 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Marie and all!
I use
www.freebaseballradio.com
To listen to all baseball games.
You just enter on the team, then a list of radio stations come up for that 
team. Try every station by entering on it until you find one that plays the 
game.
You can look up the other team in the game, and find the game on a radio 
station for the other team.
It is the same with football:
www.freefootballradio.com
Basketball:
www.freebasketballradio.com
and so on.
I always find a radio station on these web sites to listen to a game on. 
Sometimes, you might have to try entering on five or more stations before you 
find one that plays the game, but I have never missed a game. If it is on the 
radio, you will find a station playing the game on these web sites.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Baseball season is here

If anyone knows how to access the games on the mlb.com site, please pass
on the info.  Thanks.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws update

[JM Casey]

haha..cheers. Glad you got it all going. 

Goldwave is a neat program and for the price, just an excellent sound
editing resource.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: February 22, 2018 7:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws update

Thank you so much. Got them installed on both my windows 7 and 10 boxes, but
I can't for the life of me tell you how I did it. After working on computers
all day and re-installing an operating system at the radio station is
probably not a good day to tackle something new like this with a piece of
software I'm not fond of. I'm not a smart guy, but I've never updated any
software before and lost configuration stuff. My control alt j hot-key to
start Jaws went away but that was an easy fix lol. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 22, 2018, at 6:51 PM, JM Casey  wrote:
> 
> I understand the pain. But can you reinstall the scripts? 
> 
> I believe there is some kind of NVDA add-on for goldwave already. I 
> downloaded it but haven't installed it yet. Check the add-ons page and 
> you'll see it. It might not be as good as the Goldwave scripts were, 
> but if JAWS keeps removing them, well...you know.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
> Sent: February 22, 2018 5:07 PM
> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws update
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhoneI am so frustrated. I finally through an exhaustive 
> search found some Goldwave scripts something that was so painfully 
> easy with Window-eyes. After talking to many I figured out how to 
> install those scripts which of course I can't remember that process 
> anymore. "Not to wory," says I,  "they work!" I install the update, 
> scripts are gone. Jaws, what a lovely piece of well, never mind!!! I 
> can only hope some smart guy will write goldwave scripts for nvda and 
> I will care not. I am using nvda more and more and this stuff is the
reason why.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and the Powerpoint accessibility checker

[JM Casey]

Thanks Fernando. That is good to know. So I do have it on here, after all ... 
though I'm sure it's been somewhat improved since 2010.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: February 23, 2018 1:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and the Powerpoint accessibility checker

It was actually introduced in Office 2010. In Office 2016 Microsoft made it 
more visible because an update added a button for quickly opening this in the 
Review tab of the ribbon, but the Accessibility Checker is available from 
witting the Check for Issues split button of the Info tab on Backstage view (or 
the File tab) since Office 2010 was first released.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Roger Newell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and the Powerpoint accessibility checker

I believe it was actually introduced in 2007 or 2010.

On a side note, Microsoft just published a complete list of accessibility 
features in all of their products, and the list is enormous. It's definitely 
worth checking out.

On 2/23/18, JM Casey  wrote:
> Huh. I thought the checker had only been introduced in office 2016. 
> Learn something new
>
> You have to press f6 to get to the pane where the results are shown. I 
> used to use it at my old job but now I'm on Office 2010 at home so 
> can't check to verify anything else. But that should help.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Ritz, Courtney L. (GSFC-7200)
> Sent: February 22, 2018 12:14 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and the Powerpoint accessibility checker
>
> Hi,
>
> Apologies if this has been asked before, I'm in a bit of a time-crunch.
>
> I'm running Windows 7 and JAWS version 17.0.2729.
> In Office 2013, I opened a Powerpoint file, and ran the accessibility 
> check on it.  Sadly, I can't figure out how to read the actual results 
> of the check.  Anyone know how to do it with JAWS?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Courtney
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[JM Casey]

Nice. I'm still wit JAWS 18 and don't know when or if I wil upgrade, but
that's very good news.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: February 23, 2018 4:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hello all!
I wanted you to know that the latest JAWS update for 2018, makes JAWS work
better in Chrome than ever before.
JAWS works great with combo boxes on Chrome now.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] recovering notepad document?

[JM Casey]

Yeah...notepad doesn't save any backups ... not even in temporary files
folders. If you're worried about this happening again, it may be best to
write your important documents in, say, mS Word, which has the ability to
save a backup/recovery file as often as you want, in the background.

You could look into a program called notepad++. It's like a super-notepad
made specifically with developers/programmers in mind, and has a lot of
features and even add-ons. I don't know if it provides this functionality,
offhand, but it might.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: February 23, 2018 7:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] recovering notepad document?

Hi Kimsan,

If you had it saved & accidentally deleted it, try looking in your Recycle
Bin.  But, if you closed the text file without saving it, your not going to
retrieve it from anywhere.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] recovering notepad document?


Hi,

Not sure if this is possible but is it possible to recover a document
created in note pad?

I wrote some stuff down in notepad and forgot to save it.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

[Adrian Spratt]

You might look at JAWS quick settings. I know you're not writing about email, 
but you might find answers here. Although JAWS 18 reads certain email messages 
fine, JAWS 2018 couldn't until I went through quick settings and unchecked a 
few candidates. Now 2018 can read those messages. Why I need to change quick 
settings for material that JAWS 18 could handle fine with the default settings 
is beyond me, but so be it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

Hi,

The latest JAWS is not working with the web app I use on three computers that I 
have tried it on.
It seems to put in extra blank lines and doesn't read the controls how it used 
to.
This is on Microsoft Windows 7 and 10.
I Reverted back to the 2018-17 build and it works fine again now.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Ed
Sent: 23 February 2018 00:26
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

Hi,
The latest Jaws update seem to be working just fine with IE to me on two 
computers. Maybe you need to reset your IE. Here below are the steps to reset 
IE.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General.
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something about 
checking this box to delete personal information. Press the spacebar 
here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.
Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove your 
favorites in IE.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

So, if JAWS is working crappily in FireFox and now Internet Explorer as well, 
...?


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 2/22/2018 5:46 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> Yes sir, my Internet Explorer is crashing like crazy now as well.  Great!
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 2/22/2018 4:43 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
>> I installed the latest Jaws bill on my Windows 7 PC this morning. I 
>> tried two Web sites that I was able to work with yesterday; Amazon 
>> and Comcast.net. Today I can’t do a thing with them If they do read 
>> there is a 10 to 15 second delay between lines and a good part of the 
>> time I have to tab away and back to the Web to get Jaws talking 
>> again. What did FS do?  Tom For answers to frequently asked questions 
>> about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

[Tom Fairhurst]

I get this message also, even when I am scanning my computer with my Vipre.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links 
+What'sNew


I get a notification that security and maintenance is turned off click to 
turn it on

What do I click?
When I press enter nothing happens or jaws says nothing
I press tab and I nothing happens!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links 
+What'sNew


Hello all!
I installed the new JAWS 2018 update on both of my laptops, and many issues 
in windows 10 are fixed.

The mail app is almost working perfectly.
I get no repeats of words, and the new message I bring up reads right away. 
JAWS works great now, in the One note app. Also, in Edge, JAWS can now list 
the form fields, headings, and links. That helps a lot with Edge. You still 
cannot select text with the virtual PC cursor in Edge.
JAWS 2018, with this update, works very well in the Windows Defender 
security center window. It is very snappy and it reads the information 
concerning the scan. I have noticed that action center works much better 
with JAWS as well, with this update.

If you have any questions, please ask.
Yes, I almost forgot.
JAWS now works the best in Google Docs in Google Chrome browser. You do not 
need to use Firefox anymore to use Google Docs, sheets, and so on.

Google Drive and docs are very snappy with this new update.
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mitch
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links 
+What'sNew


Hello Inamuddin,  I was hopeful that the latest 2018 update would solve the 
Windows Mail troubles as well but was disappointed in the results as noted 
by you and others.
With little to lose, I did a repair on this new version earlier today.  The 
repair took about 4 times longer than the initial successful install but 
since doing this, the Windows 10 Mail program is almost working properly. 
On occasion I have to unload and reload both JAWS and Windows Mail and, for 
some reason, that seems to restore proper behavior on this Dell Desktop of 
recent manufacture.
I would be interested if others with Windows 10 Mail issues find a repair of 
the latest update results in improvement.  Thanks, Mitch


If a married man is alone in the woods and no one hears him,   is he still 
wrong?


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Inam Uddin
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links 
+What'sNew


Yes they have tried to fix it and it is working better than the last JAWS 
update but Windows 10 mail app is still not working as normal as in JAWS 18.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + 
What'sNew


Brilliant!  Now my windows 10 email app is working properly again.

Jo

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Below are the direct download links for the February Jaws update,
J2018.1802.78, + what's new in this release.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x64.exe

What's new in this release:
Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1802.78 (February 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
December 2017 update and the February 2018 update.

To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads web page.

JAWS
list of 12 items
When you open an inaccessible PDF file in Adobe Reader which normally just
reports: "Empty Document", JAWS now displays a dialog box asking if you want
to perform OCR directly on the file. Choose Yes to have JAWS recognize the
image and display the text in the Results Viewer or choose No to close the
dialog
box without performing OCR. This is the same as using the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to OCR a document. We are now proactively 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

[Kevin Lee]

I get a notification that security and maintenance is turned off click to turn 
it on
What do I click?
When I press enter nothing happens or jaws says nothing
I press tab and I nothing happens!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Hello all!
I installed the new JAWS 2018 update on both of my laptops, and many issues in 
windows 10 are fixed.
The mail app is almost working perfectly.
I get no repeats of words, and the new message I bring up reads right away. 
JAWS works great now, in the One note app. Also, in Edge, JAWS can now list the 
form fields, headings, and links. That helps a lot with Edge. You still cannot 
select text with the virtual PC cursor in Edge.
JAWS 2018, with this update, works very well in the Windows Defender security 
center window. It is very snappy and it reads the information concerning the 
scan. I have noticed that action center works much better with JAWS as well, 
with this update.
If you have any questions, please ask.
Yes, I almost forgot.
JAWS now works the best in Google Docs in Google Chrome browser. You do not 
need to use Firefox anymore to use Google Docs, sheets, and so on.
Google Drive and docs are very snappy with this new update.
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mitch 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Hello Inamuddin,  I was hopeful that the latest 2018 update would solve the 
Windows Mail troubles as well but was disappointed in the results as noted by 
you and others.
With little to lose, I did a repair on this new version earlier today.  The 
repair took about 4 times longer than the initial successful install but since 
doing this, the Windows 10 Mail program is almost working properly.  On 
occasion I have to unload and reload both JAWS and Windows Mail and, for some 
reason, that seems to restore proper behavior on this Dell Desktop of recent 
manufacture.
I would be interested if others with Windows 10 Mail issues find a repair of 
the latest update results in improvement.  Thanks, Mitch

If a married man is alone in the woods and no one hears him,   is he still 
wrong?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Inam Uddin
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Yes they have tried to fix it and it is working better than the last JAWS 
update but Windows 10 mail app is still not working as normal as in JAWS 18.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

Brilliant!  Now my windows 10 email app is working properly again.

Jo

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Below are the direct download links for the February Jaws update,
J2018.1802.78, + what's new in this release.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x64.exe

What's new in this release:
Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1802.78 (February 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
December 2017 update and the February 2018 update.

To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads web page.

JAWS
list of 12 items
When you open an inaccessible PDF file in Adobe Reader which normally just
reports: "Empty Document", JAWS now displays a dialog box asking if you want
to perform OCR directly on the file. Choose Yes to have JAWS recognize the
image and display the text in the Results Viewer or choose No to close the
dialog
box without performing OCR. This is the same as using the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to OCR a document. We are now proactively offering
this
for all JAWS and Fusion users when we recognize that scanned PDF files have
been opened in Acrobat Reader.
When you press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by QUESTION MARK for help with
layered commands, the list of keystrokes is now displayed in the Results
Viewer
to make them easier t

Re: [JAWS-Users] recovering notepad document?

[Mike B.]

Hi Kimsan,

If you had it saved & accidentally deleted it, try looking in your Recycle 
Bin.  But, if you closed the text file without saving it, your not going to 
retrieve it from anywhere.
- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] recovering notepad document?


Hi,

Not sure if this is possible but is it possible to recover a document
created in note pad?

I wrote some stuff down in notepad and forgot to save it.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] suspending this list

[David Ferrin]

I placed the footer message located at the bottom of every post sent to the 
list probably more than 8 years ago or better. I believe you will find what 
you need on the help page.


-Original Message- 
From: David Crowell

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] suspending this list

Hi I am going to be going away for awhile and won't even have access to my
computer.  Can anyone give me directions how to suspend getting posts to
this list.  I will definitely return to the list when I return but I need
this break.


Dave
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi,

The latest JAWS is not working with the web app I use on three computers that I 
have tried it on.
It seems to put in extra blank lines and doesn't read the controls how it used 
to.
This is on Microsoft Windows 7 and 10.
I Reverted back to the 2018-17 build and it works fine again now.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Ed
Sent: 23 February 2018 00:26
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

Hi,
The latest Jaws update seem to be working just fine with IE to me on two 
computers. Maybe you need to reset your IE. Here below are the steps to reset 
IE.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General.
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something about 
checking this box to delete personal information. Press the spacebar 
here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.
Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove your 
favorites in IE.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest Jaws and IE 11

So, if JAWS is working crappily in FireFox and now Internet Explorer as well, 
...?


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 2/22/2018 5:46 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> Yes sir, my Internet Explorer is crashing like crazy now as well.  Great!
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 2/22/2018 4:43 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
>> I installed the latest Jaws bill on my Windows 7 PC this morning. I
>> tried two Web sites that I was able to work with yesterday; Amazon
>> and Comcast.net. Today I can’t do a thing with them If they do read
>> there is a 10 to 15 second delay between lines and a good part of the
>> time I have to tab away and back to the Web to get Jaws talking
>> again. What did FS do?  Tom
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox updates/accessibility

[wayne smith]

You the man!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox updates/accessibility

Howdy,

To turn off the password prompt thingy try the following:
You can stop being asked about saving passwords with a setting in Tools /
Options.  Open Tools / Options and tab once.  You are in a list.  Then down
arrow to security.  If you get stuck moving down, up arrow once, then start
down arrowing again.  When you get to security, start tabbing.  You will get
to a check box that says remember login information.  Uncheck it with the
space bar.  There is no ok button.  Continue to use Firefox as usual.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: cheez
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox updates/accessibility


I've found, that when asked if you want to save your password, it tells you
to press the spacebar, then press alt plus n.
After doing that, you either press Y or N.  That's what I did and do and it
works.
As far as stopping it from asking all the time, I never really checked into
it.  Perhaps someone else on this list will know the answer to that.

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox updates/accessibility


> Hey Wayne.
>
> You should get the Firefox 52 ESR release, if you want to keep using JAWS
> with Firefox. ESR stands for "extended support release". It has all the
> features of Firefox 52, with the current security updates. Definitely a
> better idea than stopping updates. And it will work with JFW, hopefully,
> until Freedom Scientific gets their act together and makes their
> screen-reader work with Firefox. I only say this because the new version,
> version 58, works great with nVDA, and even the landmark first "Quantum"
> 57
> works with that screen-reader as well, though some folks reported issues.
>
> As for the passwords, there is a way to turn this prompt off in settings,
> but I can't seem to find it at the moment. Search around and you will
> hopefully come across it. When the password prompt appears, you can tab to
> "don't save", and the message will disappear. There may be an alt-key
> combination for this, but I don't know what it is. Someone on the list
> might, or I'll come back here tomorrow when it's not some ridiculous hour.
> *grin*
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of wayne smith
> Sent: February 20, 2018 3:22 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox updates/accessibility
>
> Hello all-
>
>
>
> I am finding more and more websites that do not work well or, in some
> cases,
> at all with IE 11.  I have Firefox on my computers but I have stopped
> automatic updates because people on this list warned that the more recent
> updates are not accessible.  I am now getting warnings that there are
> security risks in not updating.  Your thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Related to Firefox again, when I enter passwords using FF I get this
> annoying announcement, "Do you want to have Firefox save this password?"
> How do I say no?
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Baseball season is here

[David Moore]

Hi Marie and all!
I use
www.freebaseballradio.com
To listen to all baseball games.
You just enter on the team, then a list of radio stations come up for that 
team. Try every station by entering on it until you find one that plays the 
game.
You can look up the other team in the game, and find the game on a radio 
station for the other team.
It is the same with football:
www.freefootballradio.com
Basketball:
www.freebasketballradio.com
and so on.
I always find a radio station on these web sites to listen to a game on. 
Sometimes, you might have to try entering on five or more stations before you 
find one that plays the game, but I have never missed a game. If it is on the 
radio, you will find a station playing the game on these web sites.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Baseball season is here

If anyone knows how to access the games on the mlb.com site, please pass 
on the info.  Thanks.


-- 

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[David Moore]

Hello all!
I wanted you to know that the latest JAWS update for 2018, makes JAWS work 
better in Chrome than ever before.
JAWS works great with combo boxes on Chrome now.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE 
support.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

[David Moore]

Hello all!
I installed the new JAWS 2018 update on both of my laptops, and many issues in 
windows 10 are fixed.
The mail app is almost working perfectly.
I get no repeats of words, and the new message I bring up reads right away. 
JAWS works great now, in the One note app. Also, in Edge, JAWS can now list the 
form fields, headings, and links. That helps a lot with Edge. You still cannot 
select text with the virtual PC cursor in Edge.
JAWS 2018, with this update, works very well in the Windows Defender security 
center window. It is very snappy and it reads the information concerning the 
scan. I have noticed that action center works much better with JAWS as well, 
with this update.
If you have any questions, please ask.
Yes, I almost forgot.
JAWS now works the best in Google Docs in Google Chrome browser. You do not 
need to use Firefox anymore to use Google Docs, sheets, and so on.
Google Drive and docs are very snappy with this new update.
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mitch 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Hello Inamuddin,  I was hopeful that the latest 2018 update would solve the 
Windows Mail troubles as well but was disappointed in the results as noted by 
you and others.
With little to lose, I did a repair on this new version earlier today.  The 
repair took about 4 times longer than the initial successful install but since 
doing this, the Windows 10 Mail program is almost working properly.  On 
occasion I have to unload and reload both JAWS and Windows Mail and, for some 
reason, that seems to restore proper behavior on this Dell Desktop of recent 
manufacture.
I would be interested if others with Windows 10 Mail issues find a repair of 
the latest update results in improvement.  Thanks, Mitch

If a married man is alone in the woods and no one hears him,   is he still 
wrong?

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From: Inam Uddin
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Yes they have tried to fix it and it is working better than the last JAWS 
update but Windows 10 mail app is still not working as normal as in JAWS 18.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
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From: jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

Brilliant!  Now my windows 10 email app is working properly again.

Jo

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Below are the direct download links for the February Jaws update,
J2018.1802.78, + what's new in this release.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x64.exe

What's new in this release:
Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1802.78 (February 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
December 2017 update and the February 2018 update.

To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads web page.

JAWS
list of 12 items
When you open an inaccessible PDF file in Adobe Reader which normally just
reports: "Empty Document", JAWS now displays a dialog box asking if you want
to perform OCR directly on the file. Choose Yes to have JAWS recognize the
image and display the text in the Results Viewer or choose No to close the
dialog
box without performing OCR. This is the same as using the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to OCR a document. We are now proactively offering
this
for all JAWS and Fusion users when we recognize that scanned PDF files have
been opened in Acrobat Reader.
When you press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by QUESTION MARK for help with
layered commands, the list of keystrokes is now displayed in the Results
Viewer
to make them easier to review.
You can now press Right Shift+DOTS 1-2-3-7 from a Focus braille display to
toggle the JAWS Screen Shade feature.
The commands to read the next or previous word (CTRL+RIGHT ARROW and
CTRL+LEFT ARROW) will now continue to speak when Speech On Demand is active.
Note
that due to the way keystrokes are handled in Microsoft Office applications,
these commands will continue to remain silent i