Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
If the issue is that the web site is using code that does not support IE 11, using an older version of JAWS or another screen reader isn't going to help. IE is no longer being supported, so as time goes on, it will become less and less effective to use. This might be a good time to start experimenting with Chrome and Firefox, and for Win 10 users, i understand that progress is being made with Edge and screen readers. Andy - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 Agreed. I now use IE11 as a backup, with Chrome as my default browser. Chrome's menu structure is horrible, even with the headings that Mike B alerted me to last month. However, it mostly operates the same way as IE11. Meanwhile, when I want to go to a favorite, I switch over to IE11. I also find it helpful that you can read difficult emails by sending them into IE11. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 i'm starting to notice this with IE 11. I am using it with JAWS 2018 and Win 7 64 bit. i do not think it is a screen reader issue. I think that it is an IE 11 issue. In fact, I am beginning to run into web sites that say straight out that they are not optimized for IE 11, and suggest that you use a different browser. Andy - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS? Does IE 11 seem to crash most often on certain web sites? If so, can you provide the address of a site you are having trouble with? I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have experienced no issues with IE 11. Gerald -Original Message- From: Miriam Vieni Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM To: jaws users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
Agreed. I now use IE11 as a backup, with Chrome as my default browser. Chrome's menu structure is horrible, even with the headings that Mike B alerted me to last month. However, it mostly operates the same way as IE11. Meanwhile, when I want to go to a favorite, I switch over to IE11. I also find it helpful that you can read difficult emails by sending them into IE11. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 i'm starting to notice this with IE 11. I am using it with JAWS 2018 and Win 7 64 bit. i do not think it is a screen reader issue. I think that it is an IE 11 issue. In fact, I am beginning to run into web sites that say straight out that they are not optimized for IE 11, and suggest that you use a different browser. Andy - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 > > Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS? Does IE 11 seem to crash most > often on certain web sites? If so, can you provide the address of a site > you are having trouble with? I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have > experienced no issues with IE 11. > > Gerald > > > > -Original Message- > From: Miriam Vieni > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM > To: jaws users list > Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 > > With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to > crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to > work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does > anyone have any suggestions? > > Miriam > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
Hi. I don't know what the issue is, but you can download previous versions of JAWS, including 16, here: https://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS/PreviousVersions -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: June 17, 2018 4:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 It doesn't appear to be related to specific sites. And, for complicated reasons, I don't have Jaws 16 on my machine anymore. I wish I did because Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 are driving me crazy. I would like to go back to the days when Jaws didn't keep disappearing every hour or so. Miriam. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS? Does IE 11 seem to crash most often on certain web sites? If so, can you provide the address of a site you are having trouble with? I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have experienced no issues with IE 11. Gerald -Original Message- From: Miriam Vieni Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM To: jaws users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
Thank you so much. I followed your directions which are wonderfully easy for me to use. I do appreciate it and I hope this works. It seems to me that I've had to do this before, not so long ago. At some point, I suppose I'll have to search for someone patient to teach me how to use another browser. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 Hi Miriam, Here are my instructions on how to reset IE 11. I would give this a try. How to reset IE 11: I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that. 1. Open IE 2. Press alt + T for tools menu. 3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key. 4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance. 6. Tab until you hear reset button. 7. Press enter on the reset button. 8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something about checking this box to delete personal information. Press the spacebar here to check this check box. 9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar. Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new. Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove your favorites in IE. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:16 PM To: jaws users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
It doesn't appear to be related to specific sites. And, for complicated reasons, I don't have Jaws 16 on my machine anymore. I wish I did because Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 are driving me crazy. I would like to go back to the days when Jaws didn't keep disappearing every hour or so. Miriam. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS? Does IE 11 seem to crash most often on certain web sites? If so, can you provide the address of a site you are having trouble with? I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have experienced no issues with IE 11. Gerald -Original Message- From: Miriam Vieni Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM To: jaws users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
Hi Miriam, Here are my instructions on how to reset IE 11. I would give this a try. How to reset IE 11: I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that. 1. Open IE 2. Press alt + T for tools menu. 3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key. 4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance. 6. Tab until you hear reset button. 7. Press enter on the reset button. 8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something about checking this box to delete personal information. Press the spacebar here to check this check box. 9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar. Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new. Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove your favorites in IE. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:16 PM To: jaws users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
Does this happen only on certain websites? As someone suggested, you could try an earlier version of JAWS, or nVDA latest version even, and see what happens. But some already consider IE to be a "deprecated" browser. In my experience though, it doesn't crash so much as things just don't work right/links or certain parts of the page appear invisible using IE. So it might be something else particular to your system. Maybe if you give a site url that is giving you trouble, others on the list could try for themselves. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: June 17, 2018 3:16 PM To: jaws users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
i'm starting to notice this with IE 11. I am using it with JAWS 2018 and Win 7 64 bit. i do not think it is a screen reader issue. I think that it is an IE 11 issue. In fact, I am beginning to run into web sites that say straight out that they are not optimized for IE 11, and suggest that you use a different browser. Andy - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS? Does IE 11 seem to crash most often on certain web sites? If so, can you provide the address of a site you are having trouble with? I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have experienced no issues with IE 11. Gerald -Original Message- From: Miriam Vieni Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM To: jaws users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS? Does IE 11 seem to crash most often on certain web sites? If so, can you provide the address of a site you are having trouble with? I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have experienced no issues with IE 11. Gerald -Original Message- From: Miriam Vieni Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM To: jaws users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11 With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] I E 11
With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does anyone have any suggestions? Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing
Hi, as I said in my message it was Jaws 2018 but I'm not sure on the build version. It was whatever was the last build before the latest update. I've been using the laptop allot on battery lately with no issues so hopefully it is fixed. The annoying thing was that this is a brand new laptop so it shouldn't be having any major issues. Well I'm crossing my fingers that the issue is now solved. >From Shaz. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List On Behalf Of Valiant8086 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 11:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing Hi. Do you know exactly which version of JAWS you were running? It might be possible that you were running the one that had a nice bug where it always used 100 percent of which ever cpu thread it was executing on all of the time. It was 17 point something, if you know what it was we can maybe figure out if that was the one. In any case, if that's what was going on, I think it might be possible that your battery wasn't providing enough power to execute that fast and the board undervoltaged. this usually should happen when the battery is very low, and never on a fairly new battery a year or newer, but older batteries that may not be putting out as many volts as they should could be not providing enough watts for the system to extend power to all components when the cpu wants more than a certain amount. You probably would know your computer now runs cooler than it used to, it should be very obvious if that's a possible explanation. To clerify something, it actually turns off, just pressing power starts it in the boot up process? Another possibility could be that you put the laptop on your lap in a certain way or you fidget (no offense intended here) in some way that's exposing a short somewhere that your brother didn't duplicate. My Lenovo yoga 2 pro used to take out my WiFi network not just for itself, but for everybody, if I picked it up by squeezing the right edge in one hand. I had to get used to holding it with two hands or laying it across an arm or what ever. So saying, that actually isn't out of the realm of possibility. To answer your last question, no, this has never happened to me. Cheers: Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com; On 6/12/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon S wrote: > Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been > having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning > when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is > always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this was > happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening. > Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother > played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't shut > down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it had > turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I > couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on my > Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm > hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been > happening? Has it happened to anyone else? > > > > Thanks. > > From Shaz. > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
