[JAWS-Users] saying good by to an old friend

[David Ferrin]

This is likely my final post on here as I am going to delete this list in the 
hope that everybody who wants has already moved over to the new list or is at 
least planning on it. 

I should say it will be the same list, just in a new location. 

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io


David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New List Inquiry

[David Ferrin]

You'll have to subscribe and then send messages to the new address.

-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New List Inquiry

Afternoon all.

Using JAWS 2018, Windows 10 and WLM, I was wondering if, with the new email 
list, will I need to do anything in order to send messages to the new list, 
or will they be automatically sent there. Thanks in advance.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

[David Ferrin]

It is not possible for me to do that given there is no feature that I can 
see for importing members from a Mailman email list.


So it is dealers choice so to speak, people may join or not it is their 
decision.


-Original Message- 
From: rosecomb...@cox.net

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

So we won't be automatically moved?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hi Jerry,

In case you haven't received the subscribe link as of yet, here it is:

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

Click on the above link, put, subscribe, in the subject field and send.
Reply to the confirmation email, and you're set.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement


David:

When will the "invitations" go out? That way, I can be on the lookout.
Thanks for all of the diligence on the teams part.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

This is not going to happen as I prefer to work with people I have known for
a long time, and who have had my back more than once over the years. Nothing
personal to anybody else but these guys have earned their place on my team.

-Original Message-
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Even though I have participated on this particular list minimally as a
contributor, I also vote for integrating the list with the existing JAWS for
Windows Users Group on the Groups.io e-mail list/online forum.  No purpose
is served by having multiple JAWS user groups.  It's one thing, for
instance, to have specialist groups like the JAWS scripting group, but if
one is looking to bring end users together the idea should be reaching the
largest audience in a single place.

For anyone who's curious, send an e-mail message to the Help e-mail address
listed below.  You can also visit the group homepage, as Groups.io is a
hybrid service that combines an e-mail interface and also has a web
interface, at:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main The topics forum/archive can be
viewed online by anyone at https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topics


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If you also happen to be a user of Windows 10 and a screen reader, consider
joining the group for just that demographic:

Group main page:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10

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Personally, I'd love to see the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for
Screen Reader Users groups "fused."  There is very little that goes on in
any one of them that doesn't have partial or total cross-over interest for
the other.  In addition, Groups.io gives you an exquisite level of control
over just what e-mail messages you will get from any group of which you're a
member.  See:

*Fine*-*Grained* *Control* Over the Group Messages You Receive from
Groups.io
<https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/5111641?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,%22Fi
ne-Grained+Control%22,20,2,0,5111641,ct=1&ct=1>

Brian
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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

[David Ferrin]

Armed wrestled my wife, FYI she let me win. All kidding aside the plan is to 
shutdown this list on Monday. I figure that should be enough time for those 
who want to move over to get it done. You always lose some people but you 
gain others so it works out in the long run I imagine. Besides after all of 
this typing and among other reasons my fingers are thinner here lately.


-Original Message- 
From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Did you do finger exercises with little bar bells?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

I've been in training for this weekend.

-Original Message- 
From: andy t

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hello David, I did mine last night and I opened the link and pressed alt s
and didn't put anything even in the subject line and just replied to the
email I
received and was on the new list in less than 15 minutes.
I will bet your fingers were tired last night.

-Original Message----- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

I might be wrong but I don't believe it is important to put subscribe in the
subject field.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hi Jerry,

In case you haven't received the subscribe link as of yet, here it is:

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

Click on the above link, put, subscribe, in the subject field and send.
Reply to the confirmation email, and you're set.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement


David:

When will the "invitations" go out? That way, I can be on the lookout.
Thanks for all of the diligence on the teams part.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

This is not going to happen as I prefer to work with people I have known for
a long time, and who have had my back more than once over the years. Nothing
personal to anybody else but these guys have earned their place on my team.

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Even though I have participated on this particular list minimally as a
contributor, I also vote for integrating the list with the existing JAWS
for Windows Users Group on the Groups.io e-mail list/online forum.  No
purpose is served by having multiple JAWS user groups.  It's one thing, for
instance, to have specialist groups like the JAWS scripting group, but if
one is looking to bring end users together the idea should be reaching the
largest audience in a single place.

For anyone who's curious, send an e-mail message to the Help e-mail address
listed below.  You can also visit the group homepage, as Groups.io is a
hybrid service that combines an e-mail interface and also has a web
interface, at:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main
The topics forum/archive can be viewed online by anyone at
https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topics


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If you also happen to be a user of Windows 10 and a screen reader, consider
joining the group for just that demographic:

Group main page:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10

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Personally, I'd love to see the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for
Screen Reader Users groups "fused."  There is very little that goes on in
any one of them that doesn't have partial or total cross-over interest for
the other.  In addition, Groups.io gives you an exquisite level of control
over just what e-mail messages you will get from any group of which you're
a member.  See:

*Fine*-*Grained* *Control* O

Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

[David Ferrin]

I've been in training for this weekend.

-Original Message- 
From: andy t

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hello David, I did mine last night and I opened the link and pressed alt s
and didn't put anything even in the subject line and just replied to the
email I
received and was on the new list in less than 15 minutes.
I will bet your fingers were tired last night.

-Original Message----- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

I might be wrong but I don't believe it is important to put subscribe in the
subject field.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hi Jerry,

In case you haven't received the subscribe link as of yet, here it is:

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

Click on the above link, put, subscribe, in the subject field and send.
Reply to the confirmation email, and you're set.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement


David:

When will the "invitations" go out? That way, I can be on the lookout.
Thanks for all of the diligence on the teams part.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

This is not going to happen as I prefer to work with people I have known for
a long time, and who have had my back more than once over the years. Nothing
personal to anybody else but these guys have earned their place on my team.

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Even though I have participated on this particular list minimally as a
contributor, I also vote for integrating the list with the existing JAWS
for Windows Users Group on the Groups.io e-mail list/online forum.  No
purpose is served by having multiple JAWS user groups.  It's one thing, for
instance, to have specialist groups like the JAWS scripting group, but if
one is looking to bring end users together the idea should be reaching the
largest audience in a single place.

For anyone who's curious, send an e-mail message to the Help e-mail address
listed below.  You can also visit the group homepage, as Groups.io is a
hybrid service that combines an e-mail interface and also has a web
interface, at:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main
The topics forum/archive can be viewed online by anyone at
https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topics


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If you also happen to be a user of Windows 10 and a screen reader, consider
joining the group for just that demographic:

Group main page:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10

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Personally, I'd love to see the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for
Screen Reader Users groups "fused."  There is very little that goes on in
any one of them that doesn't have partial or total cross-over interest for
the other.  In addition, Groups.io gives you an exquisite level of control
over just what e-mail messages you will get from any group of which you're
a member.  See:

*Fine*-*Grained* *Control* Over the Group Messages You Receive from
Groups.io
<https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/5111641?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,%22Fine-Grained+Control%22,20,2,0,5111641,ct=1&ct=1>

Brian
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Re: [JAWS-Users] of course, test

[David Ferrin]

This is confusing for a few days as there are 2 lists running at the same 
time, at least until Monday.


-Original Message- 
From: Bob Hicks

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] of course, test

test



Have a great day, 73



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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

[David Ferrin]

I might be wrong but I don't believe it is important to put subscribe in the 
subject field.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hi Jerry,

In case you haven't received the subscribe link as of yet, here it is:

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

Click on the above link, put, subscribe, in the subject field and send.
Reply to the confirmation email, and you're set.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement


David:

When will the "invitations" go out? That way, I can be on the lookout.
Thanks for all of the diligence on the teams part.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

This is not going to happen as I prefer to work with people I have known for
a long time, and who have had my back more than once over the years. Nothing
personal to anybody else but these guys have earned their place on my team.

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Even though I have participated on this particular list minimally as a
contributor, I also vote for integrating the list with the existing JAWS
for Windows Users Group on the Groups.io e-mail list/online forum.  No
purpose is served by having multiple JAWS user groups.  It's one thing, for
instance, to have specialist groups like the JAWS scripting group, but if
one is looking to bring end users together the idea should be reaching the
largest audience in a single place.

For anyone who's curious, send an e-mail message to the Help e-mail address
listed below.  You can also visit the group homepage, as Groups.io is a
hybrid service that combines an e-mail interface and also has a web
interface, at:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main
The topics forum/archive can be viewed online by anyone at
https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topics


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If you also happen to be a user of Windows 10 and a screen reader, consider
joining the group for just that demographic:

Group main page:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10

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Personally, I'd love to see the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for
Screen Reader Users groups "fused."  There is very little that goes on in
any one of them that doesn't have partial or total cross-over interest for
the other.  In addition, Groups.io gives you an exquisite level of control
over just what e-mail messages you will get from any group of which you're
a member.  See:

*Fine*-*Grained* *Control* Over the Group Messages You Receive from
Groups.io
<https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/5111641?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,%22Fine-Grained+Control%22,20,2,0,5111641,ct=1&ct=1>

Brian
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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

[David Ferrin]

I posted the subscribe address yesterday:

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

That will do it. I could send out announcements but I figured this way would 
be easier.


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

David:

When will the "invitations" go out? That way, I can be on the lookout.
Thanks for all of the diligence on the teams part.
Jerry

-Original Message----- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

This is not going to happen as I prefer to work with people I have known for
a long time, and who have had my back more than once over the years. Nothing
personal to anybody else but these guys have earned their place on my team.

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Even though I have participated on this particular list minimally as a
contributor, I also vote for integrating the list with the existing JAWS
for Windows Users Group on the Groups.io e-mail list/online forum.  No
purpose is served by having multiple JAWS user groups.  It's one thing, for
instance, to have specialist groups like the JAWS scripting group, but if
one is looking to bring end users together the idea should be reaching the
largest audience in a single place.

For anyone who's curious, send an e-mail message to the Help e-mail address
listed below.  You can also visit the group homepage, as Groups.io is a
hybrid service that combines an e-mail interface and also has a web
interface, at:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main
The topics forum/archive can be viewed online by anyone at
https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topics


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If you also happen to be a user of Windows 10 and a screen reader, consider
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Personally, I'd love to see the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for
Screen Reader Users groups "fused."  There is very little that goes on in
any one of them that doesn't have partial or total cross-over interest for
the other.  In addition, Groups.io gives you an exquisite level of control
over just what e-mail messages you will get from any group of which you're
a member.  See:

*Fine*-*Grained* *Control* Over the Group Messages You Receive from
Groups.io
<https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/5111641?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,%22Fine-Grained+Control%22,20,2,0,5111641,ct=1&ct=1>

Brian
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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

[David Ferrin]

This is not going to happen as I prefer to work with people I have known for 
a long time, and who have had my back more than once over the years. Nothing 
personal to anybody else but these guys have earned their place on my team.


-Original Message- 
From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Even though I have participated on this particular list minimally as a
contributor, I also vote for integrating the list with the existing JAWS
for Windows Users Group on the Groups.io e-mail list/online forum.  No
purpose is served by having multiple JAWS user groups.  It's one thing, for
instance, to have specialist groups like the JAWS scripting group, but if
one is looking to bring end users together the idea should be reaching the
largest audience in a single place.

For anyone who's curious, send an e-mail message to the Help e-mail address
listed below.  You can also visit the group homepage, as Groups.io is a
hybrid service that combines an e-mail interface and also has a web
interface, at:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main
The topics forum/archive can be viewed online by anyone at
https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topics


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  - Subscribe: win10+subscr...@win10.groups.io
  - Unsubscribe: win10+unsubscr...@win10.groups.io
  - Group Owner: win10+ow...@win10.groups.io
  - Help: win10+h...@win10.groups.io


Personally, I'd love to see the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for
Screen Reader Users groups "fused."  There is very little that goes on in
any one of them that doesn't have partial or total cross-over interest for
the other.  In addition, Groups.io gives you an exquisite level of control
over just what e-mail messages you will get from any group of which you're
a member.  See:

*Fine*-*Grained* *Control* Over the Group Messages You Receive from
Groups.io


Brian
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[JAWS-Users] the groups IO subscribe link

[David Ferrin]

It will take a couple of days for things to settle down so I won’t delete this 
list right away. Here is the link to sign up with the groups IO.

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io;

Mind you at the moment I am the only moderator until the guys subscribe and I 
set their permissions ETC.

David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] major announcement

[David Ferrin]

I am considering moving the list over to groups IO as I understand they seem to 
have less problems of being bounced by various internet providers. Over the 
years and especially lately we have lost a number of good members since their 
providers will not allow messages from this domain to get to subscribers, and 
as such they bounce and get removed by the server. I can’t even contact these 
people privately since my email address is tied to this domain. 

I have to bring my people up to date on groups IO next, the good thing it is a 
lot easier to figure out than Mailman. It is almost 10 years since the last 
move and with luck this will be the last. I do not know how much longer I will 
keep running this beast, but believe it or not in October it will be 13 years. 
Bob and I never figured on it lasting this long, There is obviously a need 
which is the reason for keeping it. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] web site archives

[David Ferrin]

They are keeping Mr. Mike pretty busy on here so I see. That just means I 
picked the right man for the job.


At least now there are enough of us to handle most any load that crosses our 
respective desks.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web site archives

Hi Bob,

It's on the Tips & Tricks page under the Internet heading.  The download
link is below.
27.  Using The Edge Browser With JAWS
Updated by Kevin Lee 7/17/2018

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Internet/UsingTheEdgeBrowserWithJAWS.zip



Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Hicks

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] web site archives


I replied to a message about using MS Edge and I read that a guide was put
in the archives and perhaps under help.  I have looked at the web site and I
see "help", but I CAN'T find the archives.  Can someone please point me in
the right direction?  tia



Have a great day, 73



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Word Show Characters

[David Ferrin]

Try control + shift + F8.

-Original Message- 
From: HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)

Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:16 AM
To: 'JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Word Show Characters

Hi friends,

My Microsoft Word 2010 has started to say things like paragraph marker etc, 
does anyone know a quick way to turn this off, I ust have turned it on in 
some way.






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Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

[David Ferrin]

The list does not accept attachments, but I got the version from your one 
drive page. It's a big one folks, almost 7 KB. Truth be told zipped text 
files are never very large.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

I sent the zipped tutorial to the list one final time, and I think David 
will post it on the help page!


E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi all,
I did not receive any zip file of the edge tutorial. Am I missing something?
Greetings from Athens,
Takis

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Lee

Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Sure I’d like something I did on the help list, but I’m pretty sure the zip 
that I did is the one that includes the whole tutorial.


E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi Kevin,

I don't know if you read the owners message, but Mr. Ferrin would like to
put your / David's tutorial up on the Jaws-Users website, but he needs your
permission to do so.  Can he put it up on the servor?  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lee

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:30 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws


This is a tutorial originally written by David More on how to use Edge with
NVDA and Narrator, I just modified it to include usage with jaws.  I tested
it and it works according to the tutorial.  This is a second post of it
because I didn’t do it correctly the first time!

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aps5BdFqVPrc5g9Wd7OMddZwC5MD

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[JAWS-Users] Edge tutorial

[David Ferrin]

Kevin, would you give me permission to post it on the tips and tricks page?
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[David Ferrin]

It would seem that they are no longer developing the program, but you can 
use it so long as the places you visit allow.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Has Microsoft retired IE?  I just tried to access the internet with IE and 
it’s pretty unusable, I get can’t reach this page

But when I use Edge all is fine!

E-mail is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

[David Ferrin]

We got them covered, Rick had it even if you would not have.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

Hi David,

I can't be sure, but I think the 3rd domain was:
@att.net
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 2:54 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership


The following domains are currently blocking messages from this domain
refusing delivery. There are 3 at this time but my memory is only giving me
2 right off hand. I am sure Mike will come up with the third.

Never the less the point to this message subscribers using:

sbcglobal.net
or
bellsouth.net

are not receiving anything from this domain, both list traffic and also
personal correspondence.

If any of you out there can help by contacting any such list members and
explaining the problem we would appreciate it.

They in turn need to call their ISPs to find out what they can on that end.

We have lost a lot of good members over the years because of stuff like
this.

David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

[David Ferrin]

The following domains are currently blocking messages from this domain refusing 
delivery. There are 3 at this time but my memory is only giving me 2 right off 
hand. I am sure Mike will come up with the third. 

Never the less the point to this message subscribers using:

sbcglobal.net
or
bellsouth.net

are not receiving anything from this domain, both list traffic and also 
personal correspondence. 

If any of you out there can help by contacting any such list members and 
explaining the problem we would appreciate it. 

They in turn need to call their ISPs to find out what they can on that end. 

We have lost a lot of good members over the years because of stuff like this. 

David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] memo to the list

[David Ferrin]

Like I said the other day folks things were going to be a little out of sorts 
for a bit, but now that Mailman is working again it should be business as usual 
from here on. Sorry for the interruption but server upgrades are a fact of life.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] memo to the entire list

[David Ferrin]

The server this domain is being hosted is getting an upgrade in the next 
couple of days. What this means to you folks is that things might be a 
little out of sorts for a short time as our internet protocol or I. P. 
address is going to change. It is very likely that services will be 
disrupted while things propagate with all of the various servers around the 
world.


What that means is with the new address all of the servers need to be made 
aware of the new address and until that happens things will not be as smooth 
until all of that activity is resolved.


The web site and the mailing list will both most likely be effected. Not to 
worry as all will return to what passes for normal around here in short 
order.


Nobody needs to do anything on their end, in fact all I have to do is enjoy 
the ride so to speak.


Thank you for your understanding in advance as this should improve services.

David Ferrin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

[David Ferrin]

Since I am on Verizon any email sent to the address 10 digit 
num...@vtext.com would land in my inbox and it is possible to reply to the 
message.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

Hi Orlando,

Personally I'm running Windows 7 & 10 with Jaws 16 thru J2018, had to make
this a Jaws thing, & Outlook Express.  When I send out text messages from my
computers I receive them back as replies to my Outlook Express In-box.  I
use a different email address for my iPhone than I do for my computers, but
I can access my iPhone emails from an identity / separate account I have set
up on all my computers.  I know a lot of people that don't receive voice
mail, texts, & emails because of whatever cellular or internet hiccups, so
there's no way that I will risk not receiving something important because
all my messaging is controlled by someone elses server / the cloud.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer


Hi all. I realize this is somewhat off topic to Jaws.
Until Sprint stopped its Google Voice integration, I had all text
messages forwarded to my Gmail account and could reply to them as I
would any other email. For those of you who use carrier domain
addresses to email texts, how do you retrieve texted responses via
email? Do you email text messages and then retrieve replies on your phones?

Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
and Pedagogue


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

[David Ferrin]

Do you hear a double tone after hitting the safely remove hardware icon? If 
so then I believe it is safe to go ahead and eject the drive.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 4:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi Sheez & Jerry,

I don't get an, Eject, option from either the context menu / application
key, the extended context menu / Shift + F10, or the File menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: cheez

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message


Jason White shared the following before.

Try moving to the drive using File Explorer and using the context menu to
detach it.
Jason White

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: "Jaws-Users List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 11:49 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message



Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Pro Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.81) with Jaws 16 thru
J2018 latest.  Whenever I want to eject / remove an external harddrive I
click on the system tray icon, choose the device, and press enter on it,
but
Jaws doesn't report the following:


Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be
safely removed from the computer.

Can anyone tell me how to get Jaws to report the message above?  Or, what
setting is supposed to be activated to report the message above?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] to Dennis, the fox 2 Detroit website and jaws

[David Ferrin]

If memory serves it is not appropriate to place another members' name in the 
subject field. Just a friendly reminder.


-Original Message- 
From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] to dennis, the fox 2 Detroit website and jaws

Hi,
I thought of something. You may want to make a jaws frame which surrounds 
the umute button, give it a keyboard command and tells it to click the 
button inside the frame after routing the jaws cursor there, and only 
appears when it sees you are in chrome and on that website. It only 
activates then. Next, assign it a keyboard command and make it say something 
so you know it worked. And then assign another jaws frame to the play button 
using jaws frames viewer.


Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[David Ferrin]

I have always found Amazon easy enough to manage myself.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites.
For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on
Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens.  I have tried the space bar, enter
key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail.  And switching to
another screen reader doesn't work, either.  If anyone has a work around,
pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, and
trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Judy,

That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which sites
you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you able
to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites?

C'mon, give us a clue here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart.
I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them
worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Very quiet

[David Ferrin]

In front of your email address on the server tab and no spaces.

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 3:15 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Very quiet 

I'm wondering if my email isn't working?  I've received very few 
messages today.  Everybody must be watching the royal wedding? Smile.


Anyway, someone was saying something about adding the word recent with a 
colon in order to get their own posts?  I go to my account settings, so 
where do I put this recent with a colon?  Is it before my name or before 
my email address?  Are their any spaces after the colon?



--

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lucky1i...@gmail.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Link On Server Doesn't Work

[David Ferrin]

It would seem that my anti virus which is different from when I first posted 
those links has deleted the file in question as many of them can be miss 
used in the wrong hands.


I found at least four other links under the email heading alone so I removed 
them as well.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 3:05 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Link On Server Doesn't Work

Hi David,

The link below doesn't work, and the error message is included below:
http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Email/GmailInstaller.html

5. Gmail Notifier Documentation And Download link


HTTP 404 Not Found
Info icon

The webpage cannot be found
HTTP 404

Most likely causes:
list of 2 items
. There might be a typing error in the address.
. If you clicked on a link, it may be out of date.
list end

What you can try:
 Retype the address.

Go back to the previous page.
 Go to
and look for the information you want.
More information
More information
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Link On Server Doesn't Work

[David Ferrin]

I see that, thank you for pointing it out.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B. 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 3:05 PM 
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Link On Server Doesn't Work 


Hi David,

The link below doesn't work, and the error message is included below:
http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Email/GmailInstaller.html

5. Gmail Notifier Documentation And Download link


HTTP 404 Not Found
Info icon  


The webpage cannot be found
HTTP 404 


Most likely causes:
list of 2 items
. There might be a typing error in the address.
. If you clicked on a link, it may be out of date.
list end

What you can try:
 Retype the address.  


Go back to the previous page.
 Go to 
and look for the information you want.  
More information
More information   
Take care.

Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Recent Mode & Gmail, Step #3

[David Ferrin]

I will review what is up there and make the required corrections, thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Recent Mode & Gmail, Step #3

Good Morning Again Dave,

The steps on the server do not tell someone how to set Gmail to receive a
copy of their own messages.  The steps say how to set up Gmail for POP3, but
not how to get a copy of their own messages.  As I said earlier, there are 2
schools of thought for someone to get a copy of their own messages sent to a
list.  The first was to put, recent plus a colon in front of your email
address on the General tab in account properties, and the second was to put,
recent plus a colon, in front of your Account Name / email address on the
Server tab of account properties.  People have had success using both ways,
but I guess the important thing to remember is that if one way does not
work, try the other!  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Recent Mode & Gmail, Step #3


The directions have been on the server for years already Mr. Mike, never the
less it is working for you and that is all that matters.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recent Mode & Gmail, Step #3

Okay, just need to verify this setting.  I put, recent:, in front of my
email address and Gmail domain on the Servertab instead of on the General
tab.
Take care.
Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.

To: Jaws-Users List
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:08 AM
Subject: Recent Mode & Gmail, Step #2


   Hi All,

Okay, the first attempt didn't work, so here's attempt #2.

Take Care.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Recent Mode & Gmail, Step #3

[David Ferrin]

The directions have been on the server for years already Mr. Mike, never the 
less it is working for you and that is all that matters.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recent Mode & Gmail, Step #3

Okay, just need to verify this setting.  I put, recent:, in front of my
email address and Gmail domain on the Servertab instead of on the General
tab.
Take care.
Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.

To: Jaws-Users List
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:08 AM
Subject: Recent Mode & Gmail, Step #2


   Hi All,

Okay, the first attempt didn't work, so here's attempt #2.

Take Care.
Mike.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws2018,Win 10-1803 and WLM

[David Ferrin]

WLM has been abandoned for quite some time. Still it continues to work so I 
keep using it. Nothing else out there really does it for me at this time.


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws2018,Win 10-1803 and WLM

Marie: I was informed, about 2-3 weeks ago, that Microsoft is no longer
supporting WLM, so am uncertain as to whether it is a JAWS issue or not. But
keep on VFO, and see what happens.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: Marie

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws2018,Win 10-1803 and WLM

Then I will report it also and encourage others with the issue to send
reports.
Thanks,
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 4:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws2018,Win 10-1803 and WLM

Same here only I’m using the windows 10 mail app.  I reported this to vfo
but they said there was no wide spread issue so they just dropped it.

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Marie
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:32 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws2018,Win 10-1803 and WLM

Since updating to 1803, sporadically Jaws refuses to read the body of some
emails. Generally I can close the email and re-open it and Jaws read it just
fine.
It also seems that this occurs after having an open Word 2016 doc?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws2018,Win 10-1803 and WLM

[David Ferrin]

1803 is giving a lot of people issues. This doesn't help you right now, but 
at least you know you're not alone so to speak.


-Original Message- 
From: Marie

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:56 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws2018,Win 10-1803 and WLM

Since updating to 1803, sporadically Jaws refuses to read the body of some 
emails. Generally I can close the email and re-open it and Jaws read it just 
fine.

It also seems that this occurs after having an open Word 2016 doc?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell notebook

[David Ferrin]

I like Lenovo systems myself, just my opinion.

-Original Message- 
From: John R. Vaughn

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 7:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell 
notebook


List, have a Toshiba 5500 series laptop moving toward end of its life.

Anyone purchased a current Toshiba or Dell laptop that works well with Jaws
and is not a touch screen computer?

How about any other newer purchased laptops?

Thank you for any thoughts.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts That Will Open With A Specific Browser, How To

[David Ferrin]

I plan on posting it to the tips and tricks page very soon as our Mr. 
Justice does good work.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 3:27 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts That Will Open With A Specific 
Browser, How To


Hi All,

The following was told to me by Rick Justice, and I just do a sorry job of
typing it up!  This is done with Jaws 16 thru J2018 latest and Windows 7.


Note:  If you have the file path of the browser already pasted into a text
file, and also the website's URL you're creating the shortcut for also
pasted into the same text file it makes doing the following much easier.
Otherwise you'll have to browse for the browser file path.  The example I'm
going to use is with Chrome and the Jaws-Users website.

1. Go to the desktop and make sure that nothing is selected.  Either press
F5 when on the desktop or hold down the control key and press the spacebar
to deselect anything that is already selected.

2. Press the, applications / context menu key, / right mouse click, to bring
up the context menu items.

3. Choose new from the menu and then choose create shortcut from the sub
menu.

4. A 2 stage dialogue opens. The default field says type a location.  Paste
the Chrome file path right here.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe"

Take notice of the quotation marks at the beginning and end of the file
path.  At the end of the file path put a space with the spacebar to the
right of the ending quotation mark.  Now put the website URL you want this
shortcut to open, but you, do not, need to put the, http:// orr www., you
only need to put everything after the, http:// or www., text.  See example
below.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" jaws-users.com

5. Tab to the, Next, button and press the spacebar to open.  This is where
you put in a name for this shortcut.  After typing the desired name tab to,
Finish, & press enter.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws on a Tablet

[David Ferrin]

You are right on topic for this list, as to the second part of your question 
I can not say but somebody will know.


-Original Message- 
From: Mary jo

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 12:04 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws on a Tablet

  I am new to this list so may be asking an inappropriate question.
Please let me know.  I am currently running Jaws 18 on my desktop PC.  I
want to transition to a tablet and want to know what tablets on the
market support Jaws.  Also can I install my current version of Jaws or
do I need to purchase something different.  Thank you.  Mary Jo Seiler
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Re: [JAWS-Users] installing an old version of jaws

[David Ferrin]

Install whatever version you wish without removing any other version, HTH.

-Original Message- 
From: Karen Schrade 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 12:36 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing an old version of jaws 


Okay, I'm going crazy with jaws not keeping up with typing in outlook 2007.
I've got win 7 and am using jaws 18 with the latest update. 


I only have jaws 18 on this laptop. Can I install jaws 17? Would I have to
uninstall 18 and then install 17? I seem to remember something about not
being able to install old versions of jaws if a new version is on the
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Guide to windows 10 1803 by Jim Flusche?

[David Ferrin]

All I can tell you is that he is having some health issues at this time. 
Unfortunately that is all the information I have to share.


-Original Message- 
From: Michael Amaro

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Guide to windows 10 1803 by Jim Flusche?

Hello Listers,

There used to be a gentleman By the name of Jim Flusche.  Every time a new 
version of windows 10 came up, he would put out ajaws users guide on how to 
use jaws with windows 10 accordingly.  The last one he did was on windows 10 
1709 I believe.  I haven't seen one for 1803.  Is he no longer doing them? 
I  found them very helpful.


Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] re firefox 52.8 ESR 64 bit dropbox link

[David Ferrin]

I think this version is newer than what is already on the server, if so then 
I will make the change.


-Original Message- 
From: Paul Mugambi

Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 9:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] re firefox 52.8 ESR 64 bit dropbox link

Hello Mike,
thanks for the link.although its talking another language not english.
how can I  return to english.
I  have installed on guess mode am able to browse but english will
make life easier!

On 5/13/18, Mike B.  wrote:

Hi Paul,

Here you go:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7rob2log9gbm9r5/Firefox%20Setup%2052.8.0esr.exe?dl=1


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- Original Message -
From: Paul Mugambi
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] re firefox 52.8 ESR 64 bit dropbox link


Hello Mike
kindly send me the link for firefox 52.8  in english
via droboxplease.

On 5/13/18, Mike B.  wrote:

Hi Gary,

Here's a little tip on posting Dropbox download links for downloading.
Notice at the end of your Dropbox download uRL it says, =0?  Well when
people click on a DB download link with, =0, at the end they have to
download the file from the Dropbox website.  But, if you change the, 0,
at
the end to a, 1, then people can then download as normal by right
arrowing
to choose,Save, and pressing enter.  Here's the link with the, 1, at the
end.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7rob2log9gbm9r5/Firefox%20Setup%2052.8.0esr.exe?dl=1

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] re firefox 52.8 ESR 64 bit dropbox link


Hello for anyone who needs firefox 52.8 ESR 64 bit ,dropbox link below.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] re firefox 52.8 ESR 64 bit dropbox link

[David Ferrin]

Check out the following link folks:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/


-Original Message- 
From: gary-melconian

Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 5:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] re firefox 52.8 ESR 64 bit dropbox link

Hello for anyone who needs firefox 52.8 ESR 64 bit ,dropbox link below.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[David Ferrin]

I could post it on the server for everybody to download it if they need to 
do so.


-Original Message- 
From: gary-melconian

Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I have a 64 bit 52.8 ESR if someone needs it. Since my systems have more
then 4GB on them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I still had a 52.X ESR installer on my system. SO I just uninstalled V60,
ran the 52.X installer and updated to the most current one capable with the
older version and am now am on Firefox Version 52.8.0. The same one I was on
before trying the Quantum or whatever it's called.
The other issue I was having with Firefox 60 and Jaws on The Old Reader:
This is what I sent VFO:
I am noticing with the latest Firefox 60 (ESR and standard version) when
browsing down my list of RSS posts. Be it in a particular feed’s entries, a
folder created by me or even in the all posts view, when I click enter or
press the spacebar to expand that particular entry to show the summary (this
is in list view. Not full view) and then later wish to do the same for
another RSS entry, Jaws doesn’t appear to be able to accomplish this second
task.
I’ve tried using the Jaws cursor, maximizing the window and then pressing
enter or spacebar, tabbing to be sure Jaws focus isn’t somewhere else, but
nothing seems to work. It’s basically pick one RSS entry and that’s it. The
only thing I can do to be able to select another RSS entry to view is do an
entire page refresh. Which isn’t a solution as once the refresh occurs, all
previously unread posts are marked as read.
In my case, The Older Reader is marked as my home page and I refer to it all
the time. So this one bug is proving to be quite disruptive. I don’t know if
it has something to do with a virtual buffer focus or some other element,
but I am not able to figure it out on my end. To be clear, this particular
behavior is not present in prior versions of Firefox. I have been using the
V 52.x ESR version before upgrading to v60 without this issue present.
So anyway, in the same email response I pasted below, I got this note from
the same tech:
Also, I did see your other e-mail in which you mentioned a specific Web
site.  I did look at that Web site, but I found that it requires signing up
for an account to see the issues.  If you could provide us with a site with
these issues that does not require signing up for an account, that would be
very helpful.

Ok... but as I specifically mentioned this website, it kind of defeats the
purpose...
Again, probably one of those things I'd have to call in to better
demonstrate the exact problem, but I'm busy throughout the day and always on
the phone, doubt I'd be able to do it any time soon.
This is why I figured in part to just go back to V 52 and maybe wait for
another Jaws or Firefox release with hopefully some more improvements. I've
waited a few months, what's a couple of more weeks...
As long as you don't mess with your profile on your system, then
uninstalling and reinstalling any version of Firefox shouldn't be a big
deal. That said, standard caveats of backing up and all that apply. Also, I
do have a Firefox account for easier browser syncing between multiple PCs
and my iPhone so there's that too.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

How did you revert to 52ESR? By uninstalling 60 and reinstalling 52ESR? I'm
hoping it was something else. I'd love to get 52ESR back with my settings
intact. meanwhile, I urge everyone else having problems with Firefox 60 to
contact VFO because otherwise they'll stall, the way they still stall on
making crucial 2018 fixes. But be sure you're using the current release of
2018 when you report Firefox 60 problems. Apparently, this release is
required for compatibility.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as
if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per
say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive, but the speech
silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with an existing issue I've
been having with Jaws just randomly losing focus on any site and me having
to maximize the window or tab or shift plus tab to get focus back all the
time made the user experience a frustrating one.
The response I got back was:
Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical S

Re: [JAWS-Users] RePost of a Previous Question

[David Ferrin]

Agreed on that little fact.

-Original Message- 
From: Moderator 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:10 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RePost of a Previous Question 


Could you be more specific with your subject line in the future?

Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 

To: "Jaws Users" 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:02 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] RePost of a Previous Question


Morning all.


I previously asked a question, and am uncertain as to whether it was 
received. Can anyone tell me if there are any tutorials for using 
Windows Defender? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Tandem

[David Ferrin]

It is still free. The fact is I used it twice today alone. I often tandem 
with Somebody in Toronto, so country borders are not an issue.


-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 8:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Tandem

Hi All,

I want to use Jaws Tandem to help a friend in another country, but I 
remember Jaws Tandem only being available for instructors and teachers who 
had to pay extra to use Jaws Tandem.


Is this still the case?

Do I have to pay extra for this feature, or can I just connect to my friend’s 
computer without worrying.


I could use NVDA’s Tandem feature, but I have to admit, I would be much more 
comfortable with Jaws.


Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not reading

[David Ferrin]

Just a thought, I wonder if another window is partly covering your document. 
Probably not, but it is a suggestion.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 1:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not reading

Hi K,

I haven't had this happen in Word, but in Notepad make sure word wrap is
checked / turned on and the windows are maximized for either program.  Also,
maybe a simple restart of your computer might take care of the problem.  To
check word wrap in Notepad, open Notepad, and press, Alt + O. If Jaws
reports word wrap is not checked, press enter to check it.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: K M Davis

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws not reading


It is happening again! In word or notepad files JAWS decides not to
read line by line nor word by word when I arrow down. This happened a
few months ago and miraculously returned to normal only to reappear
yesterday. This happens in both JAWS 18 and 2018. However, if I hit
insert2 it reads well.
I have called F/S but they have no solution.
Please advise.
K.

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[JAWS-Users] Fw: question on verbosity levels

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This came to the owner address so that is why I am forwarding it.

From: sugar Lopez 
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 12:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com 
Subject: question on verbosity levels

Hello all

Not sure how to explain this but forgive me if I goof up.

Ok, I have folders on my documents

On several folder it will say where this folder is located, for example (music 
documents( 

Yesdterday it did not say documents after the folder and now it does.

Also on my outlook if I press the f12 to save the post and I am going letter by 
letter to save it, jaws will continuesly read the entire line where it didn’t 
read the entire line yesterday jus want I was copying.

For example

Subject line: Santas Workshop, Chocolate cake

I press f12 and just want to copy chocolate cake.

All the while jaws is saying santas workshop chocolate cake

I hope this makes sense.

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible domain registrar

[David Ferrin]

I use name secure for this domain. Accessible although a little confusing at 
first. There is also go daddy and ultra host.


-Original Message- 
From: Don Raikes

Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible domain registrar

Hi,  I am thinking of getting my own domain, but I seem to remember a 
discussion a while back on this list about what domain registry websites are 
most accessible.


I can't find the thread, so can someone tell me what registry sites are 
best?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do I get to folder options in windows ten?

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This says windows 7 but many of the shortcuts work in 10:

http://jaws-users.com/text/Shortcuts/Windows7.zip


-Original Message- 
From: jimrawls 
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 2:20 PM 
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do I get to folder options in windows ten? 


Hi all, I am using jaws 18, on a windows ten machine. I can't get to my
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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[David Ferrin]

Long as I am around here you go gang, enjoy.

http://jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/C_CleanerDownloadPage.html


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Go ahead and post it as they are available right now.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Bob,

Stay tuned for an email I'm about to post for accessible CCleaner versions.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Hicks

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


Sri.  I should have waited for the answer!  Is version 540 available?  tnx

Have a great day!

Bob Hicks


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Again Dave,

Okay I just gave the latest version another run, and the only way I was able
to use this new version as far as scanning in Windows  and Application
modes, but not able to find the results was use the Touch Cursor plus other
cursor calisthenics.  Doing the first run using the clean button / checkbox
is no problem, but now the cursor calisthenics begin.  I think this new
version is now doable, but it will just require more effort.  I was able to
clean the Registry and view the results of this scan with no problem, so I'm
taking back my statement that it's not accessible, but I will say that it's
not nearly as accessible using the cleaning options as versions 5.40 and
earlier.  Now, this is all based on a loose definition of accessible!  LOL
LOL Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Dave...Oregonian
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


Gerald,

I'll jump in here, as well. I'm using version 5.42.6495. Windows 7 32-bit
Professional SP 1.Using JAWS 2018 latest build, but works all the way back
to version 16, as well.  As I tab through the program, I land on buttons. I
press a button with the spacebar, and continue to tab, as there are now
other buttons resulting. e.g. if I tab past the Tools button, I land on the
next button -- Options. But is I select Tools, Uninstall, Startup, Browser
Plug Ins, etc. With continual Tabbing, I come back around to the first
button "Check for Updates".

If I select the Uninstall button,and tab enough, I land on a list view,
showing all my installed programs. I can navigate this list using the
up/down arrows, as well as first-letter navigation to jump quickly to a
particular program.

There are times when I select from a list and select an action like remove,
where I lose focus. Then all I do is Alt-tab away and back in to CCleaner
and tab back to the list. IF that is not accessible, then I have several
other programs that are totally worse.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gerald Levy " 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 03:57
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?



I don't understand.  Mike D., one of the most knowledgeable members of this
list insists that CCleaner 5.42 is not JAWS accessible, yet you claim that
you have no issues with it.  How can this be?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

I have no issues with 5.42

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


That's reassuring.  But Piriform has been known to play games with its
customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with
CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to
sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to
the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible.
Is this true?


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[David Ferrin]

Go ahead and post it as they are available right now.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Bob,

Stay tuned for an email I'm about to post for accessible CCleaner versions.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Hicks

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


Sri.  I should have waited for the answer!  Is version 540 available?  tnx

Have a great day!

Bob Hicks


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Again Dave,

Okay I just gave the latest version another run, and the only way I was able
to use this new version as far as scanning in Windows  and Application
modes, but not able to find the results was use the Touch Cursor plus other
cursor calisthenics.  Doing the first run using the clean button / checkbox
is no problem, but now the cursor calisthenics begin.  I think this new
version is now doable, but it will just require more effort.  I was able to
clean the Registry and view the results of this scan with no problem, so I'm
taking back my statement that it's not accessible, but I will say that it's
not nearly as accessible using the cleaning options as versions 5.40 and
earlier.  Now, this is all based on a loose definition of accessible!  LOL
LOL Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Dave...Oregonian
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


Gerald,

I'll jump in here, as well. I'm using version 5.42.6495. Windows 7 32-bit
Professional SP 1.Using JAWS 2018 latest build, but works all the way back
to version 16, as well.  As I tab through the program, I land on buttons. I
press a button with the spacebar, and continue to tab, as there are now
other buttons resulting. e.g. if I tab past the Tools button, I land on the
next button -- Options. But is I select Tools, Uninstall, Startup, Browser
Plug Ins, etc. With continual Tabbing, I come back around to the first
button "Check for Updates".

If I select the Uninstall button,and tab enough, I land on a list view,
showing all my installed programs. I can navigate this list using the
up/down arrows, as well as first-letter navigation to jump quickly to a
particular program.

There are times when I select from a list and select an action like remove,
where I lose focus. Then all I do is Alt-tab away and back in to CCleaner
and tab back to the list. IF that is not accessible, then I have several
other programs that are totally worse.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gerald Levy " 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 03:57
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?



I don't understand.  Mike D., one of the most knowledgeable members of this
list insists that CCleaner 5.42 is not JAWS accessible, yet you claim that
you have no issues with it.  How can this be?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

I have no issues with 5.42

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


That's reassuring.  But Piriform has been known to play games with its
customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with
CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to
sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to
the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible.
Is this true?


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
Yes, I can assure you that CCleaner 5.42 standard will install without any
third party software at all.
At 06:17 PM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


So are you saying that you were able to download and install the

standard version

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809

[David Ferrin]

Like I said you guys are correct as to the version number. So far I have 
updated a total of five systems, not all of them mine BTW today alone.


Been busy for sure.

-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 12:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809

No, it should be 1803, which is the code for the latest Windows 10 release,
being the year 2018 and that the version was the one written in March, 03.

The Fall Creator Update was 1709.


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809


My lap top is updating to 1809 as I write this email. I only disagree with 
you since there is evidence to the contrary.


At least that is the impression I am under at the moment. I will of course 
report the final results when they come in. I'll say this, it is a slow 
process.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809

Good Morning Head Honcho,

Well, you will have one hell of a time updating to 1809, that one isn't 
out

yet!  LOL  LOL  But, if you are referring to Windows 10 1803, there is a
Media Creation Tool available.  I updated Monday, and it went smooth as a
babies bottom just letting the computer do its own thing.  I'll get back 
to

you with a link for the Media Creation Tool.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:32 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809


I wonder if downloading the media creation tool and then creating an
installation DVD would be more practical then updating my systems along 
with

some others that I am sure will come across my door step.

Does anybody have any thoughts on the matter?
David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809

[David Ferrin]

First of all thank you for the link. It would seem I stand corrected. So the 
April 2018 update is 1803 and not 1809.  Either way let me know which is 
correct if you would.


Also I have to get out to the other room and check on the progress of my lap 
top as it has stopped chattering so it must be finished with whatever it was 
doing. It was putting in a rather large update and I imagine it will tell me 
what it is when I check in a few minutes.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809

Howdy Señor,

Here you go:

From: inamuddin khan
Dear friend, here is your required link:


https://software-download.microsoft.com/download/pr/MediaCreationTool1803.exe



With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1



Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:32 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809


I wonder if downloading the media creation tool and then creating an
installation DVD would be more practical then updating my systems along with
some others that I am sure will come across my door step.

Does anybody have any thoughts on the matter?
David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809

[David Ferrin]

My lap top is updating to 1809 as I write this email. I only disagree with 
you since there is evidence to the contrary.


At least that is the impression I am under at the moment. I will of course 
report the final results when they come in. I'll say this, it is a slow 
process.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809

Good Morning Head Honcho,

Well, you will have one hell of a time updating to 1809, that one isn't out
yet!  LOL  LOL  But, if you are referring to Windows 10 1803, there is a
Media Creation Tool available.  I updated Monday, and it went smooth as a
babies bottom just letting the computer do its own thing.  I'll get back to
you with a link for the Media Creation Tool.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:32 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809


I wonder if downloading the media creation tool and then creating an
installation DVD would be more practical then updating my systems along with
some others that I am sure will come across my door step.

Does anybody have any thoughts on the matter?
David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] windows 10 1809

[David Ferrin]

I wonder if downloading the media creation tool and then creating an 
installation DVD would be more practical then updating my systems along with 
some others that I am sure will come across my door step. 

Does anybody have any thoughts on the matter?
David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

[David Ferrin]

We all made that mistake over the years. Well maybe not Bob since he just 
likes to kick people off of the list when that kind of thing crosses his 
desk.


Just kidding Bob, down boy.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

I'm sorry David, this was my fault!

Moderator, Mike B.
Jaws-Users.com
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes


This is an example of cross posting that some how got past us.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 12:48 AM
To: 'leonard morris'
Cc: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Maybe others have tried it.t.t.

-Original Message-
From: leonard morris [mailto:lmorris1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:19 PM
To: Dennis Long
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

I have briefly used the EaseUS MobiMover with Jaws 2018 along with windows 7
and it does to appear to be Jaws friendly. I did an audio recording of a
baseball game using total recorder as an MP3 file and I transfered it to my
Iphone 8. The only thing I could not figrue out yet is the progress of the
transfer and when the transfer has completed.
However, it does appear to be much easier for me to navigate than the
dreaded Itunes. Any additional tricks and tips offered is much appreciated.


On 4/25/2018 11:50 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

When you try it please let us know.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

I haven't tried the software yet. I am chiming in on this late. My only
other suggestion si DropBox.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Did anyone try the software that the article talks about?  Is there
alternative software that is Jaws accessible?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Hi Leonard,
You
might give this a try,
Easeus MobiMover

https://www.easeus.com/iphone-data-transfer/transfer-text-messages-fro
m-iphone-to-pc-with-ease.html

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Leonard Morris" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes


I want it easier way to transfer music from my computer to my iPhone.
I’ve always had issues doing this.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a
unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:06 AM, JM Casey  wrote:

Probably. But that depends on what it is you want to do. iTunes is a
store, a media player and probably others things too (I don't use it,
myself). Are you looking to buy music and movies? Or just play stuff?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Leonard Morris
Sent: April 21, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Is there an alternative to iTunes that  works well with jaws 2018 or
jaws 18?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

[David Ferrin]

This is an example of cross posting that some how got past us.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 12:48 AM
To: 'leonard morris'
Cc: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Maybe others have tried it.t.t.

-Original Message-
From: leonard morris [mailto:lmorris1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:19 PM
To: Dennis Long
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

I have briefly used the EaseUS MobiMover with Jaws 2018 along with windows 7 
and it does to appear to be Jaws friendly. I did an audio recording of a 
baseball game using total recorder as an MP3 file and I transfered it to my 
Iphone 8. The only thing I could not figrue out yet is the progress of the 
transfer and when the transfer has completed.
However, it does appear to be much easier for me to navigate than the 
dreaded Itunes. Any additional tricks and tips offered is much appreciated.



On 4/25/2018 11:50 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

When you try it please let us know.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

I haven't tried the software yet. I am chiming in on this late. My only 
other suggestion si DropBox.


-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Did anyone try the software that the article talks about?  Is there 
alternative software that is Jaws accessible?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Hi Leonard,
You
might give this a try,
Easeus MobiMover

https://www.easeus.com/iphone-data-transfer/transfer-text-messages-fro
m-iphone-to-pc-with-ease.html

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Leonard Morris" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes


I want it easier way to transfer music from my computer to my iPhone.
I’ve always had issues doing this.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a
unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:06 AM, JM Casey  wrote:

Probably. But that depends on what it is you want to do. iTunes is a
store, a media player and probably others things too (I don't use it,
myself). Are you looking to buy music and movies? Or just play stuff?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Leonard Morris
Sent: April 21, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Is there an alternative to iTunes that  works well with jaws 2018 or
jaws 18?

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a
unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

[David Ferrin]

Thank you sir: when such a time comes up again to replace my existing router 
which seems to happen every so many years I will keep this model in mind.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

David,

Oh, the Apple Airport router definitely works with Windows, as well as Mac.
It does not care. It generates a very strong signal, compared to my Arris
router.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:12
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


Dave, I have never heard of this router, please elaborate on it if you can.

I was always under the impression that anything Apple would not be so easy
to configure in Windows.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

Sandy,

As far as the simplest to set up, and signal strength, get the Apple Airport
router. The GUI to do adjustments is quite accessible, as well.

You did not say whether you are using cable or telephone data as your
incoming broadband. Either will require you get a modem to interface with
the broadband. Many of those broadband routers come with Wi-Fi capability.
However in my case I turned off the Wi-Fi in my Arris Cable modem and use
the Apple Airport to do all the Wi-Fi work.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy h" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 07:22
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


thanks

On 4/26/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the
easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible.

-Original Message-
From: sandy h
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

[David Ferrin]

Dave, I have never heard of this router, please elaborate on it if you can.

I was always under the impression that anything Apple would not be so easy 
to configure in Windows.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

Sandy,

As far as the simplest to set up, and signal strength, get the Apple Airport
router. The GUI to do adjustments is quite accessible, as well.

You did not say whether you are using cable or telephone data as your
incoming broadband. Either will require you get a modem to interface with
the broadband. Many of those broadband routers come with Wi-Fi capability.
However in my case I turned off the Wi-Fi in my Arris Cable modem and use
the Apple Airport to do all the Wi-Fi work.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy h" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 07:22
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


thanks

On 4/26/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the
easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible.

-Original Message-
From: sandy h
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

[David Ferrin]

I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the 
easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible.


-Original Message- 
From: sandy h

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Additional issue

[David Ferrin]

Check the subject line for clarity ETC.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Additional issue

Hi Miriam,

Maybe your Auto Forms mode setting was accidentally changed.  You can go
into Settings Center, Jaws key + 6 on the number row, to check it.  It
sounds like it might have been switched to manual mode.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Miriam Vieni

To: jaws users list
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:32 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Additional issue


Ever since level 2 worked on my computer yesterday, forms mode does not come
on automatically when I press tab. I can't remember which version of Jaws it
was where you still had to press enter to go into forms mode, but I have to
do that now on websites like BARD and Jaws says, "forms mode off"  each time
it goes off which I don't think it usually does. Also, the list that comes
up for auto complete with control K is incomplete. The current address for
the DB Review list wasn't in that list at all, just two previous addresses.



Miriam

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

[David Ferrin]

My Klingon is a little rusty I must admit.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:17 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers 


Is this another language?

- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Williams" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers


Didn't tgubj if tgatm  
Thanms,

Justin

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Earlier this week, Justin commented that placemarkers don't always hold
their place, which is true. However, I've found that they are dependable
when I put them on a link. Sometimes it means putting it a line or two away
from a logical spot, but I think they've been stable every time I do this.
As a reminder, the dialog to set a permanent placemarker is begun with
control-shift-k. Tab from there.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] usb sound card

[David Ferrin]

They even make sound cards with their own speakers or sound bar. I have such 
an animal for my older lap top and it is almost 10 years old.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 10:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] usb sound card

Interesting, 2 of those cards in less than a year?These are powered speakers
so should not have a big draw on the card.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 7:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] usb sound card

That is strange, I have been using an inexpensive sound card for JAWS on
this system and it is seven years old. BTW this card was on another system
before hand. You must have got a lemon or something. Saberent and CMedia
cards work well.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:57 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] usb sound card

I do not understand the inexpensive sound cards.  I now have to purchase
another card. I purchased 2 unnamed cards for $13 each from a local computer
store. Both lasted about 4 months with a 90 day warranty. I suspect that
they are not designed for computer speakers. I just ordered a $30 card from
Tiger Direct for $30. It has a 2 year warranty. Their shipping is very
reasonable about $3.00. I use this card exclusively for jaws. That way I can
turn the sound off until I need it for web pages.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] usb sound card

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That is strange, I have been using an inexpensive sound card for JAWS on 
this system and it is seven years old. BTW this card was on another system 
before hand. You must have got a lemon or something. Saberent and CMedia 
cards work well.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:57 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] usb sound card

I do not understand the inexpensive sound cards.  I now have to purchase
another card. I purchased 2 unnamed cards for $13 each from a local computer
store. Both lasted about 4 months with a 90 day warranty. I suspect that
they are not designed for computer speakers. I just ordered a $30 card from
Tiger Direct for $30. It has a 2 year warranty. Their shipping is very
reasonable about $3.00. I use this card exclusively for jaws. That way I can
turn the sound off until I need it for web pages.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

In fact the documentation does state that it could possibly run multiple 
jobs at the same time if that is what you are asking. I have concerns about 
doing that as there is always so much running on a system in the background 
to start with. The multiple jobs in my way of thinking would be for backing 
up the various collections of source material on an individual basis.



I personally believe that is the way to go.
-Original Message- 
From: sandy

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

o, so on this new program, multiple jobs can be copied, then transferred at
the same time

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Well if I want to use it to backup my documents and also my music but not at
the same time then that would entail creating two separate jobs.

I may never become an expert on this program, but if I do figure out what
works for me in the fullness of time then I will write up something at that
point.

-Original Message- 
From: sandy

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

what do you mean multiple jobs?

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

It does look like it is free to distribute so I’ll go ahead and put it up on
the server shortly. The operating instructions at least in my opinion leave
something to be desired. Creating multiple jobs is still just out of my
grasp so far. I am starting to make out some of the settings in a job stream
that work best for my needs so that is progress for a Friday.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

The server connected to this list or should I say the other way around might 
be more accurate.


-Original Message- 
From: Bob Hicks

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 9:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

I don't find any location information on your previous emails David.  Please 
it again.  thanks


Have a great day!

Bob Hicks

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Read my previous message.

-Original Message-
From: Patti Woodworth
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

hi David, where can you get this program and is there steps on how to use 
it!


From Patti WSent from my iPhone


On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:07 PM, David Ferrin  wrote:

Oh it does a remarkable job of backing up files and or folders for
sure. I can't figure out as of yet how to configure more than a single
job which at this point is first on my list for that program right now.

It is much faster than some older programs, my guess is that it
manages memory better.

-Original Message- From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Hi David. This is good to know.

I've been trying to figure out a powershell script to do this for me,
but I'm wondering if the program you mentioned could do the following:

I have an external drive which I use to back up all my music, which I
have spread across two other drives. I would like a way to examine the
contents of folders in both drives, and copy anything that's new/since
the last backup onto the external, placing it in the correct folders.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: April 18, 2018 1:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

I started to take a closer look at this program and it does have some
important advantages over some older comparable programs for backing
up files ETC. For example it is much faster than Karen's’ replicator
which for me has been the gold standard for many years already.

The rub is its’ help file is roughly as useful as a screen door in a
submarine. Specifically where it comes to creating multiple jobs is my
current stumbling block along with another item or so, but I like to
tackle one thing at a time.

So if anybody out there has some pointers or better documentation I
would appreciate having a look myself. Thanks in advance.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

It is up on the server as of about five minutes ago. both versions don't 
even come to 1.5 MB.


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

It does look like it is free to distribute so I’ll go ahead and put it up on 
the server shortly. The operating instructions at least in my opinion leave 
something to be desired. Creating multiple jobs is still just out of my 
grasp so far. I am starting to make out some of the settings in a job stream 
that work best for my needs so that is progress for a Friday.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

Well if I want to use it to backup my documents and also my music but not at 
the same time then that would entail creating two separate jobs.


I may never become an expert on this program, but if I do figure out what 
works for me in the fullness of time then I will write up something at that 
point.


-Original Message- 
From: sandy

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

what do you mean multiple jobs?

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

It does look like it is free to distribute so I’ll go ahead and put it up on
the server shortly. The operating instructions at least in my opinion leave
something to be desired. Creating multiple jobs is still just out of my
grasp so far. I am starting to make out some of the settings in a job stream
that work best for my needs so that is progress for a Friday.
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[JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

It does look like it is free to distribute so I’ll go ahead and put it up on 
the server shortly. The operating instructions at least in my opinion leave 
something to be desired. Creating multiple jobs is still just out of my grasp 
so far. I am starting to make out some of the settings in a job stream that 
work best for my needs so that is progress for a Friday. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

Read my previous message.

-Original Message- 
From: Patti Woodworth

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

hi David, where can you get this program and is there steps on how to use 
it!


From Patti WSent from my iPhone


On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:07 PM, David Ferrin  wrote:

Oh it does a remarkable job of backing up files and or folders for sure. I 
can't figure out as of yet how to configure more than a single job which 
at this point is first on my list for that program right now.


It is much faster than some older programs, my guess is that it manages 
memory better.


-Original Message- From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Hi David. This is good to know.

I've been trying to figure out a powershell script to do this for me, but 
I'm wondering if the program you mentioned could do the following:


I have an external drive which I use to back up all my music, which I have 
spread across two other drives. I would like a way to examine the contents 
of folders in both drives, and copy anything that's new/since the last 
backup onto the external, placing it in the correct folders.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: April 18, 2018 1:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

I started to take a closer look at this program and it does have some 
important advantages over some older comparable programs for backing up 
files ETC. For example it is much faster than Karen's’ replicator which 
for me has been the gold standard for many years already.


The rub is its’ help file is roughly as useful as a screen door in a 
submarine. Specifically where it comes to creating multiple jobs is my 
current stumbling block along with another item or so, but I like to 
tackle one thing at a time.


So if anybody out there has some pointers or better documentation I would 
appreciate having a look myself. Thanks in advance.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

If I can find some good documentation and the program is free to distribute, 
then of course.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Will you eventually put it on the website along with good documentation?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Oh it does a remarkable job of backing up files and or folders for sure. I 
can't figure out as of yet how to configure more than a single job which at 
this point is first on my list for that program right now.


It is much faster than some older programs, my guess is that it manages 
memory better.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Hi David. This is good to know.

I've been trying to figure out a powershell script to do this for me, but 
I'm wondering if the program you mentioned could do the following:


I have an external drive which I use to back up all my music, which I have 
spread across two other drives. I would like a way to examine the contents 
of folders in both drives, and copy anything that's new/since the last 
backup onto the external, placing it in the correct folders.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: April 18, 2018 1:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

I started to take a closer look at this program and it does have some 
important advantages over some older comparable programs for backing up 
files ETC. For example it is much faster than Karen's’ replicator which for 
me has been the gold standard for many years already.


The rub is its’ help file is roughly as useful as a screen door in a 
submarine. Specifically where it comes to creating multiple jobs is my 
current stumbling block along with another item or so, but I like to tackle 
one thing at a time.


So if anybody out there has some pointers or better documentation I would 
appreciate having a look myself. Thanks in advance.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

Oh it does a remarkable job of backing up files and or folders for sure. I 
can't figure out as of yet how to configure more than a single job which at 
this point is first on my list for that program right now.


It is much faster than some older programs, my guess is that it manages 
memory better.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Hi David. This is good to know.

I've been trying to figure out a powershell script to do this for me, but 
I'm wondering if the program you mentioned could do the following:


I have an external drive which I use to back up all my music, which I have 
spread across two other drives. I would like a way to examine the contents 
of folders in both drives, and copy anything that's new/since the last 
backup onto the external, placing it in the correct folders.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: April 18, 2018 1:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

I started to take a closer look at this program and it does have some 
important advantages over some older comparable programs for backing up 
files ETC. For example it is much faster than Karen's’ replicator which for 
me has been the gold standard for many years already.


The rub is its’ help file is roughly as useful as a screen door in a 
submarine. Specifically where it comes to creating multiple jobs is my 
current stumbling block along with another item or so, but I like to tackle 
one thing at a time.


So if anybody out there has some pointers or better documentation I would 
appreciate having a look myself. Thanks in advance.

David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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[JAWS-Users] fast copy

[David Ferrin]

I started to take a closer look at this program and it does have some important 
advantages over some older comparable programs for backing up files ETC. For 
example it is much faster than Karen's’ replicator which for me has been the 
gold standard for many years already. 

The rub is its’ help file is roughly as useful as a screen door in a submarine. 
Specifically where it comes to creating multiple jobs is my current stumbling 
block along with another item or so, but I like to tackle one thing at a time. 

So if anybody out there has some pointers or better documentation I would 
appreciate having a look myself. Thanks in advance. 
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

[David Ferrin]

I figured he was referring to the fact he spends so much time on his 
computer that his wife is a PC widow.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

Hi Kevin,

I know you meant what you said jokingly, and that's why I had to correct
your mispelling of my misspelling of Widows / Widos!  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lee

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume


I mean no nasty stuff about your wrong spelling, now that you explained why
you spelled it the way you did I understand.
You’re a pretty funny guy!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

Hi Kevin,

Well hell yeah, poke away!  LOL  LOL  But, when you are going to make fun of
my purposely misspelled words, make sure to spell my purposely misspelled
words correctly!  LOL  I said, Widows 10, and you stated, Widos 10!  From
time to time I call, Windows, ... , Widows, as in these damn computers will
make our spouses a widow because they will drive us crazy, but jokingly of
course!  LOL
Ain't not spellchecking golden?!  LOL
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lee

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume


Can I poke fun of you?
WHAT IS Widos 10
Isn’t that supposedly why the admins want you to use a spell checker!
You know better Mike!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

Good Morning Señor,

Here's another set of steps that will supposedly work with Widows 10, I
haven't tried these myself with Widows 10 or 7:

From: Richard
I found this on the Microsoft Answer page from Googling the question.  I did
it and named it, creatively enough, volume, and assigned control+alt+v,
which
gets  you to the master volume control on my Windows 10 Home system.

Then, alt+x gets you to the mixer controls where you can adjust programs
separately, supposedly.

Here is what I found:

Yes,you can create a Master Volume Shortcut and also assign a Shortcut Key.

Right click on a empty area on desktop, and click on New and Shortcut.

Paste the following in to the location of the item area:-

%windir%\System32\SndVol.exe -f 49825268

Click Next button and give a name to the Shortcut and click Finish.

Now You right click on it and select Properties.

Click Shortcut tab.

Assign your desired shortcut key like F8 or F9 in the Shortcut Key area.

Click OK/Apply.

HTH,
Richard

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume


It said it was doing it but in fact nothing was happening other than it
saying things were changing.

Windows 10 latest and 2018 as a matter of fact.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

Hi Fernando,

To be honest I don't use any keystrokes for controlling volume.  I run 2
soundcards, 1 for system sounds & 1 for Jaws.  This way I don't run into
sound override problems.  I should have tested the steps I posted, but
assuming they would work correctly if assigned was a poor assumption from
what Net bat states.  On second thought, when I get some time I'll play
around since Net bat is running Widows 10, and I'm running Widows 7, to see
if volume keystroke assignment might work differently with Widows 7.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume


Hi net bat66 and Mike,

Does this procedure works when using Eloquence? In current JAWS versions
there is no Volume slider when setting a voice profile with Elo

Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

[David Ferrin]

I just tried it with the system volume controls and not for JAWS itself and 
it works, obviously with the default sound card.


-Original Message- 
From: net bat66

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

if you are useing eliquence; it won't work. this might also be true for 
other

non vocalizer voices.
and i am useing windows 7 not 10. grin
it works with my high quality vocalizer tom voice.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

Hi Fernando, Net bat, & List Members,

Okay I just tried assigning keystrokes to, increase / decrease system volume
and increase / decrease voice volume, without success.  When invoking the
assigned keystrokes the audio states it's doing the assigned task, but in
reality ain't a damn thing happenin!  LOL  LOL

So in short, with my testing anyways, if you want to hear your assigned
keystrokes increase / decrease percentages announced audibly by JAWS, that's
exactly what you'll get, audible announcements, but the volume doesn't
change for either system sounds or JAWS volume.  This was running Widows 7
with JAWS 16 thru 2018.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume


Hi Fernando,

To be honest I don't use any keystrokes for controlling volume.  I run 2
soundcards, 1 for system sounds & 1 for Jaws.  This way I don't run into
sound override problems.  I should have tested the steps I posted, but
assuming they would work correctly if assigned was a poor assumption from
what Net bat states.  On second thought, when I get some time I'll play
around since Net bat is running Widows 10, and I'm running Widows 7, to see
if volume keystroke assignment might work differently with Widows 7.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume


Hi net bat66 and Mike,

Does this procedure works when using Eloquence? In current JAWS versions
there is no Volume slider when setting a voice profile with Eloquence,
unlike with other synths like SAPI 5 or any Vocalizer variant.
As I remember from older JAWS versions, this control when using Eloquence
was simply a read-only edit box which said “Use your system's volume.”

Thanks in advance!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

forwarded from mike bee on the main jaws list.
1. Open Keyboard Manager without any applications / programs open to make
sure you land on, Default, when you open Keyboard Manager.  Do this by
pressing, Jaws key + F2, press the letter, K, until you have Keyboard
Manager highlighted, & press enter.  If you don't have, Default, highlighted
when opening the keyboard manager press the letter, D, until you do.

2. Find the following to assign keystrokes to them:
DecreaseVoiceVolume,  None
Decrease system volume,  None
IncreaseVoiceVolume,  None
Increase system Volume,  None
*Note:   None, means that there is not a keystroke assigned to these
functions
/ tasks.

3. On each of these functions / tasks press, Control + h, to open an edit
field to insert the keystroke you would like to use for this particular
function / task.  *Note:  Make sure not to press any other keys other than
the keystroke you want!
4. After entering your desired keystroke tab one time, and there's a
checkbox for assigning this keystroke to desktop keys only, usually people
will uncheck this.

5. Tab to, Okay, Press ENTER, and choose OK in the confirmation dialog which
appears.

6.  You'll be returned to the list view of scripts.  Use the same steps with
the other functions / tasks listed above.

7. Close Keyboard Manager with, Alt + F4.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS and volume control


Hi Richard,



I got one better than your way to create a shortcut.

All you have to do both in Windows 7 or Windows 10 is bring up either the
run command with Windows Key+R or simply the search box with the Windows
key.

Now 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Jaws Volume

[David Ferrin]

The increase and decrease system volume does seem to work with the default 
sound card.


Interesting as I haven't done much with these things since this keyboard has 
volume controls just above the six pack. Good stuff boys and girls, keep it 
coming.


-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Jaws Volume

In addition to my earlier message, it seems like a trip through
the Jaws help topics or to the VFO web site technical bulletins would yield
an answer.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

[David Ferrin]

Success on your directions Mike VIA Richards' original posting. I knew the 
command for a number of years how to bring up the volume control, how ever I 
was not aware of the switches or arguments after the command that obviously 
are available.


Since I use multiple sound cards, 3 on this system to be exact it brought 
them up and I could tab around to them quite easily.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

Good Morning Señor,

Here's another set of steps that will supposedly work with Widows 10, I
haven't tried these myself with Widows 10 or 7:

From: Richard
I found this on the Microsoft Answer page from Googling the question.  I did
it and named it, creatively enough, volume, and assigned control+alt+v,
which
gets  you to the master volume control on my Windows 10 Home system.

Then, alt+x gets you to the mixer controls where you can adjust programs
separately, supposedly.

Here is what I found:

Yes,you can create a Master Volume Shortcut and also assign a Shortcut Key.

Right click on a empty area on desktop, and click on New and Shortcut.

Paste the following in to the location of the item area:-

%windir%\System32\SndVol.exe -f 49825268

Click Next button and give a name to the Shortcut and click Finish.

Now You right click on it and select Properties.

Click Shortcut tab.

Assign your desired shortcut key like F8 or F9 in the Shortcut Key area.

Click OK/Apply.

HTH,
Richard

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume


It said it was doing it but in fact nothing was happening other than it
saying things were changing.

Windows 10 latest and 2018 as a matter of fact.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

Hi Fernando,

To be honest I don't use any keystrokes for controlling volume.  I run 2
soundcards, 1 for system sounds & 1 for Jaws.  This way I don't run into
sound override problems.  I should have tested the steps I posted, but
assuming they would work correctly if assigned was a poor assumption from
what Net bat states.  On second thought, when I get some time I'll play
around since Net bat is running Widows 10, and I'm running Widows 7, to see
if volume keystroke assignment might work differently with Widows 7.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume


Hi net bat66 and Mike,

Does this procedure works when using Eloquence? In current JAWS versions
there is no Volume slider when setting a voice profile with Eloquence,
unlike with other synths like SAPI 5 or any Vocalizer variant.
As I remember from older JAWS versions, this control when using Eloquence
was simply a read-only edit box which said “Use your system's volume.”

Thanks in advance!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

forwarded from mike bee on the main jaws list.
1. Open Keyboard Manager without any applications / programs open to make
sure you land on, Default, when you open Keyboard Manager.  Do this by
pressing, Jaws key + F2, press the letter, K, until you have Keyboard
Manager highlighted, & press enter.  If you don't have, Default, highlighted
when opening the keyboard manager press the letter, D, until you do.

2. Find the following to assign keystrokes to them:
DecreaseVoiceVolume,  None
Decrease system volume,  None
IncreaseVoiceVolume,  None
Increase system Volume,  None
*Note:   None, means that there is not a keystroke assigned to these
functions
/ tasks.

3. On each of these functions / tasks press, Control + h, to open an edit
field to insert the keystroke you would like to use for this particular
function / task.  *Note:  Make sure not to press any other keys other than
the keystroke you want!
4. After entering your desired keystroke tab one time, and there's a
checkbox for assigning this keystroke to desktop keys only, usually people
will uncheck this.

5. Tab to, Okay, Press ENTER, and choose OK in the confirmation dialog which
appears.

6.  You'll be returned to the list view of script

Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

[David Ferrin]

That Richard is such a clever guy, LOL. Thanks for this, I will try it out 
as well. I should point out that the reason I have not tried these things 
already is because I have been using a program called power mixer for 
several years.


Mostly I use it for adjusting the volume for JAWS but it does other things 
as well only some of which I avail myself of so far.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

Good Morning Señor,

Here's another set of steps that will supposedly work with Widows 10, I
haven't tried these myself with Widows 10 or 7:

From: Richard
I found this on the Microsoft Answer page from Googling the question.  I did
it and named it, creatively enough, volume, and assigned control+alt+v,
which
gets  you to the master volume control on my Windows 10 Home system.

Then, alt+x gets you to the mixer controls where you can adjust programs
separately, supposedly.

Here is what I found:

Yes,you can create a Master Volume Shortcut and also assign a Shortcut Key.

Right click on a empty area on desktop, and click on New and Shortcut.

Paste the following in to the location of the item area:-

%windir%\System32\SndVol.exe -f 49825268

Click Next button and give a name to the Shortcut and click Finish.

Now You right click on it and select Properties.

Click Shortcut tab.

Assign your desired shortcut key like F8 or F9 in the Shortcut Key area.

Click OK/Apply.

HTH,
Richard

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume


It said it was doing it but in fact nothing was happening other than it
saying things were changing.

Windows 10 latest and 2018 as a matter of fact.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

Hi Fernando,

To be honest I don't use any keystrokes for controlling volume.  I run 2
soundcards, 1 for system sounds & 1 for Jaws.  This way I don't run into
sound override problems.  I should have tested the steps I posted, but
assuming they would work correctly if assigned was a poor assumption from
what Net bat states.  On second thought, when I get some time I'll play
around since Net bat is running Widows 10, and I'm running Widows 7, to see
if volume keystroke assignment might work differently with Widows 7.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume


Hi net bat66 and Mike,

Does this procedure works when using Eloquence? In current JAWS versions
there is no Volume slider when setting a voice profile with Eloquence,
unlike with other synths like SAPI 5 or any Vocalizer variant.
As I remember from older JAWS versions, this control when using Eloquence
was simply a read-only edit box which said “Use your system's volume.”

Thanks in advance!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

forwarded from mike bee on the main jaws list.
1. Open Keyboard Manager without any applications / programs open to make
sure you land on, Default, when you open Keyboard Manager.  Do this by
pressing, Jaws key + F2, press the letter, K, until you have Keyboard
Manager highlighted, & press enter.  If you don't have, Default, highlighted
when opening the keyboard manager press the letter, D, until you do.

2. Find the following to assign keystrokes to them:
DecreaseVoiceVolume,  None
Decrease system volume,  None
IncreaseVoiceVolume,  None
Increase system Volume,  None
*Note:   None, means that there is not a keystroke assigned to these
functions
/ tasks.

3. On each of these functions / tasks press, Control + h, to open an edit
field to insert the keystroke you would like to use for this particular
function / task.  *Note:  Make sure not to press any other keys other than
the keystroke you want!
4. After entering your desired keystroke tab one time, and there's a
checkbox for assigning this keystroke to desktop keys only, usually people
will uncheck this.

5. Tab to, Okay, Press ENTER, and choose OK in the confirmation dialog which
appears.

6.  You'll be returned to the list view of scripts.  Use th

Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

[David Ferrin]

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-Original Message-
From: Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

Hello listers,



I m using the latest version of Windows and JAWS.



Is it possible to change JAWS  volume with a hotkey without changing the
overall volume of the computer?



Regards

Morn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing JAWS' volume

[David Ferrin]

s located at:
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-Original Message-
From: Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changeing JAWS' volume

Hello listers,



I m using the latest version of Windows and JAWS.



Is it possible to change JAWS  volume with a hotkey without changing the
overall volume of the computer?



Regards

Morn

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[JAWS-Users] little memo for everybody

[David Ferrin]

I just wanted to remind everybody that when contacting the list moderators the 
most efficient manner is to use:

jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com

The above address will reach all of us where as if you write to me or one of 
the other guys who say for example happens to be on vacation and I know that 
sounds far out there as nobody would want to take a break from their respective 
computers, but let’s just say if it did happen that way. Your request might not 
receive an answer in a timely manner. 

Other than that little glitch things have been running quite smoothly around 
here for an extended period of time. Which goes to the lists’ longevity, 12 and 
a half years already. Now if you have a reason to contact one of us privately 
or don’t mind the possibility of waiting for a reply then go for it. 

OK I have rambled on long enough and remember go Penguins.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] whats app application

[David Ferrin]

It would seem like you can converse with others using an internet connection 
as if it were a phone.


Now a days with nation wide calling, Skype and or face time if both parties 
have an I device I would think that such things are falling by the way side. 
Then again this last is only my opinion for whatever it is worth.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 8:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] whats app application

David I think it’s like a messenger app I don’t know really but when I 
looked it up with a google search that’s what it sounded it is to me!


E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] whats app application

OK, so the larger question is what is this application? I imagine I can look
it up so far as that goes.

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Mugambi

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Inquiry of JAWS training probono service

Hello
its the number which I  registed the whatsapp. application.
cheers

On 4/12/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

I am curious as to what is a whats app number.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Mugambi
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:06 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Inquary of JAWS training probono service

Hello Listers
might you be knowing a  person or organization that offer Jaws
training on probono basis?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[David Ferrin]

It seems to me at least that this page is more efficient for my purposes:

https://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=mw_access


-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I can get to Account Options using Google Chrome and IE 11 on my Windows 7
box.  I can't get to the account options using IE 11.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rebecca Lineberger" 

To: "jaws user's list" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:45 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue



A friend needed to update her credit card information.  She went to the
Amazon website, to:

Your Account

And there she was stopped because the link she needed was not on the page,
or not that JAWS could find.

The next step would have been to go to the link

Account Options

But that link was nowhere to be found on the page.

She called the Amazon disability number and spoke with someone.  She 
finally

got the credit card information updated with their help, but as they saw,
she, using a screen reader, did not have access to that vital link. 
Perhaps

we, as screen reader users, are taken to another site, one supposedly more
accessible? when the screen reader is detected, because the woman assured
her that the

Account Options

Link was there for her, as a sighted user.

The woman filled out a form for their accessibility team, but if we are
currently unable to access information that was available to us before, as
it certainly was, then this is an issue that needs to be addressed by
Freedom Scientific working with Amazon.

I'm posting this here to see if others too will be unable to get to the

Account Options

Link from the

Your Account

Page.

If not, perhaps you too could call the problem to Amazon's attention.

My friend and I are both using Windows 10, version 1709, with JAWS 2018 
with

the current March update.

She's using Internet Explorer.  I'm using the latest version of Chrome.

Rebecca



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Re: [JAWS-Users] whats app application

[David Ferrin]

I did look it up already which I should have done in the first place I 
suppose.


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] whats app application

OK, so the larger question is what is this application? I imagine I can look
it up so far as that goes.

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Mugambi

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Inquiry of JAWS training probono service

Hello
its the number which I  registed the whatsapp. application.
cheers

On 4/12/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

I am curious as to what is a whats app number.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Mugambi
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:06 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Inquary of JAWS training probono service

Hello Listers
might you be knowing a  person or organization that offer Jaws
training on probono basis?


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[JAWS-Users] whats app application

[David Ferrin]

OK, so the larger question is what is this application? I imagine I can look 
it up so far as that goes.


-Original Message- 
From: Paul Mugambi

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Inquiry of JAWS training probono service

Hello
its the number which I  registed the whatsapp. application.
cheers

On 4/12/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

I am curious as to what is a whats app number.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Mugambi
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:06 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Inquary of JAWS training probono service

Hello Listers
might you be knowing a  person or organization that offer Jaws
training on probono basis?


--
my Whats app number is +254 792 746 642

Secretary People With Disability ACT 2018
www.abilitysounds.blogspot.com

Disability Activist of the year 2015 award:
https://youtu.be/KLPoeG8f73o#Ability remix

https://youtu.be/WKWzau-ceO4
www.mugambipaul.com

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Malaika tribute award winner.
http://youtu.be/KLPoeG8f73o
Life time achievement award Winner July 2014
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2014 "ADARA"
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Inquiry of JAWS training probono service

[David Ferrin]

I am curious as to what is a whats app number.

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Mugambi 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:06 AM 
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Inquary of JAWS training probono service 


Hello Listers
might you be knowing a  person or organization that offer Jaws
training on probono basis?


--
my Whats app number is +254 792 746 642

Secretary People With Disability ACT 2018
www.abilitysounds.blogspot.com

Disability Activist of the year 2015 award:
https://youtu.be/KLPoeG8f73o#Ability remix

https://youtu.be/WKWzau-ceO4
www.mugambipaul.com

2015 Disability Activist of the year
Malaika tribute award winner.
http://youtu.be/KLPoeG8f73o 
Life time achievement award Winner July 2014

ANNUAL DISABILITY ADVOCACY RIGHTS & AWARDS
2014 "ADARA"
.
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August 2013 by CBM International

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Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message

[David Ferrin]

My experience is that their reply comes to your phone, at least it did in my 
situation.


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 3:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message

Man, if you would've only told me about the second method that would've
saved me tons of fights with my x-wife lol.

Anyways, when sending the text from your computer, when they reply from
their phone, does it go to your inbox, or to your phone.
I'm asking, cause when Mike posted the second method, I texted my daughter,
she replied and it went to my phone.

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 9:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message

Hi Lenny,

There are actually 2 domains you can use to send text messages from your
computer with Jaws to a Verizon user.  The first one is for text messages &
I don't have any luck with this one because it has a limited number of
characters, but even if I don't exceed the character count my family /
friends don't get the whole text, so I use the second one.
#1:
phonenum...@vtext.com

This second one is the domain for sending pictures / sound files, & doesn't
appear to have a limit, so to speak, & the domain I always use for sending
text messages.
#2:
phonenum...@vzwpix.com

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Lenny McHugh
To: JFW List
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] send a text message


Using latest jaws 2018 and win 7, is there anyway to create and send a text
message to a verizon cell phone?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC and time elapsed/remaining

[David Ferrin]

How true and sad at the same time. It so far does not stay long enough for 
me to do anything with it.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 8:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC and time elapsed/remaining

Hm, so it does.
But the status line key just reads a graphic number.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: April 5, 2018 4:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC and time elapsed/remaining

I will point out that the insert+T command to read the title bar works even
in full screen mode at least for me it does.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 2:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VLC and time elapsed/remaining

Hi David and others.



So, not exactly helpful for this list, but I ran NVDA with the VLC add-on.
At the suggestion of someone else, instead of using the native VLC
keystroke, I used the one provided by the add-on to read the status line,
which is independent of the relevant VlC keystroke. I'm guessing this won't
work in fullscreen mode, which is usually the preferred method of video
watching for sighted people at least, because I think it removes all
"extraneous" information to the video content. Anyway, jumping with
ctrl-left and right also announces elapsed time using this combination. It
would be very nice if someone did something similar for jAWS.



Unfortunately, none of my efforts to read the status line with JAWS 18 have
been successful. In fact, using the touch cursor in VLC appears to make JAWS
laggy and unresponsive, on my end, and I'm guessing the mouse pointer cannot
go there, so the JAWS cursor is completely useless.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message

[David Ferrin]

num...@vtext.com


Normally works for me, in fact I just tried it out before sending this 
message.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message

Hi Lenny,

There are actually 2 domains you can use to send text messages from your
computer with Jaws to a Verizon user.  The first one is for text messages &
I don't have any luck with this one because it has a limited number of
characters, but even if I don't exceed the character count my family /
friends don't get the whole text, so I use the second one.
#1:
phonenum...@vtext.com

This second one is the domain for sending pictures / sound files, & doesn't
appear to have a limit, so to speak, & the domain I always use for sending
text messages.
#2:
phonenum...@vzwpix.com

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh

To: JFW List
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] send a text message


Using latest jaws 2018 and win 7, is there anyway to create and send a text
message to a verizon cell phone?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC and time elapsed/remaining

[David Ferrin]

I will point out that the insert+T command to read the title bar works even 
in full screen mode at least for me it does.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 2:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VLC and time elapsed/remaining

Hi David and others.



So, not exactly helpful for this list, but I ran NVDA with the VLC add-on.
At the suggestion of someone else, instead of using the native VLC
keystroke, I used the one provided by the add-on to read the status line,
which is independent of the relevant VlC keystroke. I'm guessing this won't
work in fullscreen mode, which is usually the preferred method of video
watching for sighted people at least, because I think it removes all
"extraneous" information to the video content. Anyway, jumping with
ctrl-left and right also announces elapsed time using this combination. It
would be very nice if someone did something similar for jAWS.



Unfortunately, none of my efforts to read the status line with JAWS 18 have
been successful. In fact, using the touch cursor in VLC appears to make JAWS
laggy and unresponsive, on my end, and I'm guessing the mouse pointer cannot
go there, so the JAWS cursor is completely useless.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

[David Ferrin]

Nothing so far, but the day is young so to speak.

I did try that command to no avail unfortunately at this time.

-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

Cool. Let us know if you figure anything out as well. Because I would like
to do this. I'm generally a VlC proponent for video watching but I have to
admit the program, though largely very usable, has some ... accessibility
quirks.

Also, in referring to that Winamp command, I think I meant just "j", and not
"ctrl-j". heheh



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: April 5, 2018 7:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

Thank you for giving me a place to start from.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

The t key displays this information on the screen, however, JAWS will not
announce it. I suppose if one knew where the text was onscreen, you could
probably use the touch cursor to find it. I have tried with the JAWS cursor
before though with no luck. The thing is that the text is displayed quickly
and then disappears, so searching around for it is not really an option. It
would be something possible with scripting, I would think, but to my
knowledge there are no JAWS scripts for VLC at this time. I'm in the process
of learning about this and maybe one day I could create something, but for
now, it's still out of my league.

I believe there is an extension for VLC you can get that forces this data to
remain on the screen permanently. This might help for this purpose. I will
look into it. Alternatively, there might be a sneaky way to find out this
information, like winamp's ctrl-j command, which is meant for jumping to a
specific time, but when invoked, shows the current elapsed time as the jump
value if you don't  type anything. I'm not quite sure.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: April 4, 2018 10:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

Is there a keystroke or menu option in VLC to tell a person just how much
time has passed in the playing of a media file? I know how to jump forward
and back already, I would just like to know if there is a way to find this
information out.

I have some videos that are several hours long and I can't always watch them
in a single sitting.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

[David Ferrin]

Thank you for giving me a place to start from.

-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

The t key displays this information on the screen, however, JAWS will not
announce it. I suppose if one knew where the text was onscreen, you could
probably use the touch cursor to find it. I have tried with the JAWS cursor
before though with no luck. The thing is that the text is displayed quickly
and then disappears, so searching around for it is not really an option. It
would be something possible with scripting, I would think, but to my
knowledge there are no JAWS scripts for VLC at this time. I'm in the process
of learning about this and maybe one day I could create something, but for
now, it's still out of my league.

I believe there is an extension for VLC you can get that forces this data to
remain on the screen permanently. This might help for this purpose. I will
look into it. Alternatively, there might be a sneaky way to find out this
information, like winamp's ctrl-j command, which is meant for jumping to a
specific time, but when invoked, shows the current elapsed time as the jump
value if you don't  type anything. I'm not quite sure.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: April 4, 2018 10:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

Is there a keystroke or menu option in VLC to tell a person just how much
time has passed in the playing of a media file? I know how to jump forward
and back already, I would just like to know if there is a way to find this
information out.

I have some videos that are several hours long and I can't always watch them
in a single sitting.


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[JAWS-Users] VLC time jump question

[David Ferrin]

Is there a keystroke or menu option in VLC to tell a person just how much 
time has passed in the playing of a media file? I know how to jump forward 
and back already, I would just like to know if there is a way to find this 
information out.


I have some videos that are several hours long and I can't always watch them 
in a single sitting. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Privacy

[David Ferrin]

I have been using fast mail for a couple of years already with good success.

http://www.fastmail.com

It is not free, but reasonable.

-Original Message- 
From: Ralph Supernaw

Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email Privacy

Hi,

I understand that email is not secure.  However, it is also my understanding
that email services such as Gmail and yahoo are completely insecure and are
scanned in order to target advertising.

I need to change email providers so would be interested in any suggestions
of providers who maintain at least some privacy.  I'd like to be able to
continue to use MS Outlook 2016.

Thanks for any guidance you might have.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

It was a case of finding the time to code the files. It is not hard, but it 
is some what exacting for the lack of a better term. You are welcome, I hope 
others find things useful up there.


Folks, I have been off and on removing things that no longer apply such as 
things for XP ETC. Just wanted to put that out there so everybody is on the 
same page so to speak.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Thanks I appreciate it.  Thanks for all you do.  Happy Easter to you and
everyone that celebrates it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Posted all four of them on the programs page under the new hardware heading.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Please do post them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I started out looking for a utility and now I have at least three of them to
pick from. Depending on their respective permissions I might just post them
on the server for others to find. I will review the licenses before hand of
course.

-Original Message-
From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

My bad that one was the removable usb and fire wire.
this one is the CD / DVD stuff.
https://wineject.com/
Notice;: how to acquire a free personal license  located down that page.

On 3/27/18, Hareth  wrote:

Hi David and all,
If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its
an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
more:
https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector

On 3/27/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did
find such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door
or actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD
drive door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a
hotkey and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house
cleaning so to speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where
to find it? I am off to do a search myself soon as I send this
message, I was just wondering in case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

Posted all four of them on the programs page under the new hardware heading.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Please do post them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I started out looking for a utility and now I have at least three of them to
pick from. Depending on their respective permissions I might just post them
on the server for others to find. I will review the licenses before hand of
course.

-Original Message-
From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

My bad that one was the removable usb and fire wire.
this one is the CD / DVD stuff.
https://wineject.com/
Notice;: how to acquire a free personal license  located down that page.

On 3/27/18, Hareth  wrote:

Hi David and all,
If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its
an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
more:
https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector

On 3/27/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did
find such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door
or actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD
drive door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a
hotkey and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house
cleaning so to speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where
to find it? I am off to do a search myself soon as I send this
message, I was just wondering in case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

I am in the process of coding the HTML for posting what looks like at this 
point no less than four such utilities that seem to be free to distribute. 
More when it gets closer to going live so to speak.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Please do post them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I started out looking for a utility and now I have at least three of them to
pick from. Depending on their respective permissions I might just post them
on the server for others to find. I will review the licenses before hand of
course.

-Original Message-
From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

My bad that one was the removable usb and fire wire.
this one is the CD / DVD stuff.
https://wineject.com/
Notice;: how to acquire a free personal license  located down that page.

On 3/27/18, Hareth  wrote:

Hi David and all,
If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its
an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
more:
https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector

On 3/27/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did
find such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door
or actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD
drive door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a
hotkey and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house
cleaning so to speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where
to find it? I am off to do a search myself soon as I send this
message, I was just wondering in case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

Soon as I review their respective permissions.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Please do post them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I started out looking for a utility and now I have at least three of them to
pick from. Depending on their respective permissions I might just post them
on the server for others to find. I will review the licenses before hand of
course.

-Original Message-
From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

My bad that one was the removable usb and fire wire.
this one is the CD / DVD stuff.
https://wineject.com/
Notice;: how to acquire a free personal license  located down that page.

On 3/27/18, Hareth  wrote:

Hi David and all,
If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its
an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
more:
https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector

On 3/27/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did
find such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door
or actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD
drive door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a
hotkey and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house
cleaning so to speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where
to find it? I am off to do a search myself soon as I send this
message, I was just wondering in case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

I started out looking for a utility and now I have at least three of them to 
pick from. Depending on their respective permissions I might just post them 
on the server for others to find. I will review the licenses before hand of 
course.


-Original Message- 
From: Hareth

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

My bad that one was the removable usb and fire wire.
this one is the CD / DVD stuff.
https://wineject.com/
Notice;: how to acquire a free personal license  located down that page.

On 3/27/18, Hareth  wrote:

Hi David and all,
If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its
an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
more:
https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector

On 3/27/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did find
such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door or
actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD drive
door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a
hotkey
and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house cleaning so
to
speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where to find it? I am
off
to do a search myself soon as I send this message, I was just wondering
in
case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Inquiry

[David Ferrin]

Check the help page listed at the bottom of every post.

If it is still something you need help with after checking there, then write 
to the list owner address and one of us will place you on no mail status 
until you ask for it to be reactivated.


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Inquiry

Morning all.
Can anyone provide me with the instructions for temporarily suspending my 
emails from this group? I am not leaving forever; just a hiatus lol.

Thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

It is in the box.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Hi David,

Would you please send me the program for opening the optical drive?  I can
use it on my Wife's laptop.  The piece along the side broke, & I always have
to open it manually through the context menu or My Computer.  Thanks mooy
moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


You got in the archives for that program Mr. Mike. I will hang on to it for
sure. I was looking for a utility to simply open and close the DVD drive
door and I got one. I will keep this as it will come in handy down the road
ejecting flash drives.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I should have gone to you in the first place, thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Howdy Boss,

Take a look in your DB folder for an alternative.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message ----- 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


Never mind folks as I did find such an animal a few moments ago. Good old
nir soft comes across again.

-Original Message----- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a hotkey
and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house cleaning so to
speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where to find it? I am off
to do a search myself soon as I send this message, I was just wondering in
case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

I will check it out just to see if it does do what it claims.

-Original Message- 
From: Hareth

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Hi David and all,
If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its
an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
more:
https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector

On 3/27/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did find
such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door or
actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD drive
door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a
hotkey
and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house cleaning so 
to

speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where to find it? I am off
to do a search myself soon as I send this message, I was just wondering in
case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

Yes sir as the saying goes the check is in the mail.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Hi David,

Would you please send me the program for opening the optical drive?  I can
use it on my Wife's laptop.  The piece along the side broke, & I always have
to open it manually through the context menu or My Computer.  Thanks mooy
moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


You got in the archives for that program Mr. Mike. I will hang on to it for
sure. I was looking for a utility to simply open and close the DVD drive
door and I got one. I will keep this as it will come in handy down the road
ejecting flash drives.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I should have gone to you in the first place, thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Howdy Boss,

Take a look in your DB folder for an alternative.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message ----- 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


Never mind folks as I did find such an animal a few moments ago. Good old
nir soft comes across again.

-Original Message----- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a hotkey
and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house cleaning so to
speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where to find it? I am off
to do a search myself soon as I send this message, I was just wondering in
case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

You got in the archives for that program Mr. Mike. I will hang on to it for 
sure. I was looking for a utility to simply open and close the DVD drive 
door and I got one. I will keep this as it will come in handy down the road 
ejecting flash drives.


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I should have gone to you in the first place, thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Howdy Boss,

Take a look in your DB folder for an alternative.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


Never mind folks as I did find such an animal a few moments ago. Good old
nir soft comes across again.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a hotkey
and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house cleaning so to
speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where to find it? I am off
to do a search myself soon as I send this message, I was just wondering in
case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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