Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Microsoft Outlook 2016

[Sharon S]

Hi, I am having the same problem. Don't know how to fix it but if you find
out please let me know.

>From Shaz.

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:14 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Microsoft Outlook 2016

Hi friends,

Not sure if anyone else has noticed but when I open a message in Microsoft
Outlook 2016 to read it, I seem to have to press ctrl+home every time to
take the cursor to the top of the message so that I can start reading it
line by line.
Is there any way to stop this or a reason for it please?

Many thanks in anticipation,






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Re: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365

[Sharon S]

Hi, I am an Office 365 user. I have it downloaded to my computers and I can
put it on five computers. As far as I know it is just a standard version.

|Hope this helps.
>From Shaz.


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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365

I guess I was under the impression that you could purchase a stand-alone
version of Office 365.


- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365


> It sounds like you want to purchase Office 2016, and not Office 365, which
> is a subscription-based service. For multiple licenses, I think you'll 
> need
> to get at least the home/business version. As far as I know there are 
> three
> "grades" of office suite: personal, home/business and professional. I know
> the personal version does not come with multiple licenses. The 
> home/business
> might be three, but I can't remember for sure, so you'll have to look into
> it.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of
> Vicki W.
> Sent: July 17, 2018 11:21 AM
> To: JAWS 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365
>
> I am wanting to purchase Office 365, but I'm not sure which version to
> purchase and if it makes a difference when using it with JAWS.
>
> I want the version that is strictly on my computer not in the cloud. I 
> want
> multiple licenses so I can use it on multiple computers.
>
> So, what am I looking for as far as the name and best to use with JAWS? I
> will be doing this on Amazon.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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[JAWS-Users] Using the mouse

[Sharon S]

Hi all, I have been filling out a form to do with my scout group. I was able
to fill it all out using Jaws however then it asks for a signature. The two
options to complete this is to write with your finger if you are using a
touch screen or to click and drag the mouse across the box if you don't have
a touch screen. So my question is, is there a way to move the mouse around
using the keyboard with Jaws? If not I will either have to get a sighted
person to do this part for me or I could try it on my phone but I'm not that
good at using the touch screen yet.

 

Hope someone has a good suggestion for this.

 

I have been catching up on old messages tonight and thanks to the questions
and answers on this great list I was able to fix some issues I was having
and learnt some more tricks with Jaws.

 

Thanks for any help.

>From Shaz.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with message rule

[Sharon S]

Hi, yes enter on rules and you will be given a few options. One of these
will be manage rules.

>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 5:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with message rule

When I arrow down to rules, how to I get to manage rules and alerts? Do I
press enter on rules? Then what?

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Sharon S
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 7:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with message rule

Hi, go into a folder doesn't matter what one. Then press the application's
key, arrow down to rules, then manage rules and alerts. In this there will
be the rule that was set up for these messages so you need to highlight the
one you want to get rid of and then tab to the delete button.

Hope this helps.
>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:03 AM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with message rule

Someone set up a message rule for me so that all of the messages from one of
the lists that I'm on, would go into a folder for that list. But what is
happening is that that while some of the messages do go there, others go
into my in box. Since the list is less active now, I'd just prefer for them
all to go to my inbox. The rule isn't working consistently anyway. What is
the easiest thing for me to do?

Miriam


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[JAWS-Users] Best program for reading PDFs

[Sharon S]

Hi all, I have been sent a document I really need to read as soon as
possible but it is a PDF and it appears I don't have a program on my laptop
to read these. When I tried to open it straight from the email it opened in
edge and I couldn't read anything. After I saved it to a folder in my
documents and went to open it I got a list of programs I could use to open
it but all I tried couldn't display the document. I tried opening it in
notepad and got a lot of rubbish instead of what it was meant to be. So now
I am wondering what the best program to use with Jaws 2018 and windows 10 is
and where can I get it from?

 

I've been having trouble making the person on the other end understand what
format I need because the first time she sent it to me it was a picture
which of course Jaws couldn't read so I asked her to send it again in a word
file. She then sent me a screen shot of the document so again I had to
explain that jaws doesn't read pictures and asked again for a word version.
She is working on an iPad so she didn't have access to word so she finally
sent me the PDF version. I'm afraid that this too will be a picture rather
than an actual PDF but to find this out I need a program that will open it.

 

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

[Sharon S]

Hi, I was unable to get your link to open. Internet explorer gave me the
can' not find page message. Where the second link went straight there.

Thanks for these great resources.
>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 6:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016


I think the web addresses are the same.  Neither opens directly for me from
the email, but both work when copied and pasted into the browser, Chrome, in
my case.  I'd copied the address from the website and pasted it into my
message.  It did not stay nicely on one line, as Adrian's did.  Perhaps the
improvement of Outlook 2016 over my 2010?  LOL.  But if looked at letter by
letter, so to speak, they're both the same.
But choose the neater version!  Smile.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

Rebecca, I believe the address has changed to
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDe
tail/F0117
You can choose an MP3 recording or go through an HTML version.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:58 AM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

This may be of help to some.

I just found it so haven't listened yet.

Rebecca

Introduction to Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic

Archived 11/11/2015

 

This overview of Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic covers the important
aspects of Office 2016. Topics include navigation for the ribbons and task
panes;

differences from earlier versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint.

Product(s): JAWS, MAGic 

Experience Level: Beginner 

Length: 1.0 hours

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarD
etail/F0117

 

"The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better" 

From:  Center for Action and Contemplation

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

[Sharon S]

Hi, thanks for this link. I have just been going through them and found
quite a few I am interested in looking at. I've gone a bit mad downloading
them and I'm not sure when I will find the time to listen to them.

>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 5:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

Rebecca, I believe the address has changed to
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDe
tail/F0117
You can choose an MP3 recording or go through an HTML version.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:58 AM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

This may be of help to some.

I just found it so haven't listened yet.

Rebecca

Introduction to Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic

Archived 11/11/2015

 

This overview of Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic covers the important
aspects of Office 2016. Topics include navigation for the ribbons and task
panes;

differences from earlier versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint.

Product(s): JAWS, MAGic 

Experience Level: Beginner 

Length: 1.0 hours

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarD
etail/F0117

 

"The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better" 

From:  Center for Action and Contemplation

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with message rule

[Sharon S]

Hi, go into a folder doesn't matter what one. Then press the application's
key, arrow down to rules, then manage rules and alerts. In this there will
be the rule that was set up for these messages so you need to highlight the
one you want to get rid of and then tab to the delete button.

Hope this helps.
>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:03 AM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with message rule

Someone set up a message rule for me so that all of the messages from one of
the lists that I'm on, would go into a folder for that list. But what is
happening is that that while some of the messages do go there, others go
into my in box. Since the list is less active now, I'd just prefer for them
all to go to my inbox. The rule isn't working consistently anyway. What is
the easiest thing for me to do?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook export/import.

[Sharon S]

Hi, I did it this way when moving from one computer to another. I had no
issues except when loading things into my new machine I ended up getting
double ups of messages. This is because I have my mail set to only delete
off the server if deleted from trash so as soon as I set up the new mail
program it started downloading all my messages off the server and once I
imported my messages from my old machine I ended up with both copies.

My only problem I still have is I couldn't export my account settings so I
currently can't get one of my email account working.

>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 5:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook export/import.

good afternoon folks, I'm back with another question, or perhaps a
verification,

one of my client's wants to export from outlook 2010, and import to outlook
2016.

I did a quick google search and found the following.

has anyone tried this?

 

 

 

Look at the process below to migrate Outlook 2010 PST data to Outlook 2016.

 

Stage1: Backup/Export Outlook 2010 PST data to an Outlook .pst file

 

To export mailbox data to an Outlook .pst file, follow the steps given
below:

 

list of 7 items

1. Launch your MS Outlook 2010 application.

2. On the topmost ribbon of MS Outlook, go to the File Tab. Click
Options>Advanced>Export.

3. From Import and Export wizard, select Export to a file. Click Next.

4. In the next Export to a file wizard, select Outlook Data File (.pst) and
click Next.

5. Select the email account name you need to export. To export the entire
PST data, select the checkbox Include Subfolders. Click Next.

 

You can export a single folder also by selecting that particular folder. In
this case, you have to clear the Include subfolders check box. Click Next.

Note: You cannot select more than one folder to export. To export another
folder, you have to perform the whole process again, i.e., a single folder
or

whole mailbox can be exported at a time.

 

Here, only Inbox folder is selected to export to a .pst file or to have a
backup of inbox items.

 

One more option is available to apply Filter to select particular items from
the folder. With advanced filters, you can select important emails from your

folder.

 

6. In Export Outlook Data File wizard, Browse and select the required
location to export your file. You can select the required option. Click
Finish to

continue.

7. After this, a dialogue box is popped up asking for the password (if you
have set a password for PST file or when you are creating a new .pst file).

Insert password and click OK. Your file will get saved to the selected
location. Select checkbox. Your password is saved for future use.

list end

 

Stage2: Import and Add PST file data to Outlook 2016

 

Import Outlook 2010 .pst file into Outlook 2016 using the given steps:

 

list of 6 items

1. Launch MS Outlook 2016 application.

2. Go to the File Tab. Click Open & Export>Import/Export.

3. From Import and Export wizard, select Import from another program or
file.

4. Select file type as Outlook data file (.pst). Click Next.

5. Click Browse to provide the location of the .pst file to be imported.
Click on the required option and click Next.

6. Select the particular folder or select include all subfolders. You can
apply Filter if selecting a single folder. Click Finish to complete the
process.

list end

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

[Sharon S]

Hi, as I said in my message it was Jaws 2018 but I'm not sure on the build
version. It was whatever was the last build before the latest update. I've
been using the laptop allot on battery lately with no issues so hopefully it
is fixed. The annoying thing was that this is a brand new laptop so it
shouldn't be having any major issues.

Well I'm crossing my fingers that the issue is now solved.
>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Valiant8086
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

Hi.


Do you know exactly which version of JAWS you were running? It might be
possible that you were running the one that had a nice bug where it always
used 100 percent of which ever cpu thread it was executing on all of the
time. It was 17 point something, if you know what it was we can maybe figure
out if that was the one. In any case, if that's what was going on, I think
it might be possible that your battery wasn't providing enough power to
execute that fast and the board undervoltaged. 
this usually should happen when the battery is very low, and never on a
fairly new battery a year or newer, but older batteries that may not be
putting out as many volts as they should could be not providing enough watts
for the system to extend power to all components when the cpu wants more
than a certain amount.


You probably would know your computer now runs cooler than it used to, it
should be very obvious if that's a possible explanation.


To clerify something, it actually turns off, just pressing power starts 
it in the boot up process?


Another possibility could be that you put the laptop on your lap in a 
certain way or you fidget (no offense intended here) in some way that's 
exposing a short somewhere that your brother didn't duplicate. My Lenovo 
yoga 2 pro used to take out my WiFi network not just for itself, but for 
everybody, if I picked it up by squeezing the right edge in one hand. I 
had to get used to holding it with two hands or laying it across an arm 
or what ever. So saying, that actually isn't out of the realm of 
possibility.


To answer your last question, no, this has never happened to me.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/12/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon S wrote:
> Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been
> having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning
> when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is
> always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this
was
> happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening.
> Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother
> played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't
shut
> down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it
had
> turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I
> couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on
my
> Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm
> hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been
> happening? Has it happened to anyone else?
>
>   
>
> Thanks.
>
>  From Shaz.
>
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[JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

[Sharon S]

Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been
having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning
when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is
always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this was
happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening.
Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother
played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't shut
down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it had
turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I
couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on my
Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm
hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been
happening? Has it happened to anyone else?

 

Thanks.

>From Shaz.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

[Sharon S]

Hi, I know they are meant to do the same thing but it wasn't working for me.
I have just given it another try and now the numpad 2 is working as
suggested. I'm glad there is a work around but it would be much easier if it
would just read as I select things.

Thanks for all your help.
>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 1:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

I'm glad it helped. FYI, numpad 2 and the numpad down arrow are the same
key.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

Hi, thanks for this option. I have only had this version of jaws installed
for a day so can't say if I have it happening at other times. I must admit I
don't tend to switch off my laptop that often because I have trouble
sleeping at night so I leave it on so I can play with it when I can't get to
sleep. I did the reset that was required for the jaws update but haven't
switched it off or reset it since. I will probably turn it off tomorrow
because I will be out for a few hours and will see if it fixes itself after
that.

While writing this message I decided to highlight a word and check your
suggestion. Well it doesn't work here, instead it says "this is not
available outside a table". However I was able to get Jaws to say which word
was highlighted by pressing jaws key + shift + down arrow. But if it wasn't
for your suggestion I would have never thought of using such a key
combination.

Thanks.
>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

I've experienced this problem inconsistently. You can have JAWS verbalize
selected text by pressing shit+JAWS key+numpad 2. Not ideal, since selected
text should be spoken immediately, but an option.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

Hi all, I am running windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2018. After
doing the latest update when trying to select words in a word document or
email Jaws doesn't tell me what is being highlighted. Jaws lets me know what
I am highlighting when in an email inbox or in my document folder. This has
only started after the last upgrade and I haven't changed any settings. I
have tried pressing insert S to go through those settings but none of them
fix the issue.

 

There is no problems highlighting text on webpages.

 

Hoping someone can help because I do allot of copying and pasting between
documents.

 

>From Shaz.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

[Sharon S]

Hi, thanks for this option. I have only had this version of jaws installed
for a day so can't say if I have it happening at other times. I must admit I
don't tend to switch off my laptop that often because I have trouble
sleeping at night so I leave it on so I can play with it when I can't get to
sleep. I did the reset that was required for the jaws update but haven't
switched it off or reset it since. I will probably turn it off tomorrow
because I will be out for a few hours and will see if it fixes itself after
that.

While writing this message I decided to highlight a word and check your
suggestion. Well it doesn't work here, instead it says "this is not
available outside a table". However I was able to get Jaws to say which word
was highlighted by pressing jaws key + shift + down arrow. But if it wasn't
for your suggestion I would have never thought of using such a key
combination.

Thanks.
>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

I've experienced this problem inconsistently. You can have JAWS verbalize
selected text by pressing shit+JAWS key+numpad 2. Not ideal, since selected
text should be spoken immediately, but an option.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

Hi all, I am running windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2018. After
doing the latest update when trying to select words in a word document or
email Jaws doesn't tell me what is being highlighted. Jaws lets me know what
I am highlighting when in an email inbox or in my document folder. This has
only started after the last upgrade and I haven't changed any settings. I
have tried pressing insert S to go through those settings but none of them
fix the issue.

 

There is no problems highlighting text on webpages.

 

Hoping someone can help because I do allot of copying and pasting between
documents.

 

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[JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

[Sharon S]

Hi all, I am running windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2018. After
doing the latest update when trying to select words in a word document or
email Jaws doesn't tell me what is being highlighted. Jaws lets me know what
I am highlighting when in an email inbox or in my document folder. This has
only started after the last upgrade and I haven't changed any settings. I
have tried pressing insert S to go through those settings but none of them
fix the issue.

 

There is no problems highlighting text on webpages.

 

Hoping someone can help because I do allot of copying and pasting between
documents.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message, Possible Fix

[Sharon S]

Hi, I have just gone through your instructions and can't find the last
option. There is nothing in my task bar options that sounds at all like what
you have suggested. I have been having the same problem as you with the
reporting of safe to remove. This is on my acer laptop and work computer
both running latest Jaws and windows ten.

Thanks.
>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 6:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message, Possible Fix

Hi Again All,

Okay, by doing the following Jaws will report the safe to remove message,
although not consistently.  I knew I had a note about this somewhere because
this also happens in Widows 7, and this is how I fixed it:
1. Windows key + I, to open Settings, Navigate to Personalization, and press
enter.
2. Go to, Taskbar, press enter, tab to, Notification Area, Select which
icons appear on the taskbar Link, and press enter.
3. Tab to, Windows host process (Rundll32) Button, press the spacebar to
check this option, and you should now hear Jaws report it's safe to
remove after pressing enter on a drive from the Safely Remove Hardware
icon.

Please let me know if the steps work for anyone else.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Mike B.
To: Jaws-Users List
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 11:49 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message


Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Pro Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.81) with Jaws 16 thru
J2018 latest.  Whenever I want to eject / remove an external harddrive I
click on the system tray icon, choose the device, and press enter on it, but
Jaws doesn't report the following:


Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be
safely removed from the computer.

Can anyone tell me how to get Jaws to report the message above?  Or, what
setting is supposed to be activated to report the message above?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016

[Sharon S]

Hi, sorry coming in late on this but slowly catching up on a huge pile of
emails. I too have had this problem with allot of my documents. I looked
into the font setting  and all looked fine so I got a sighted family member
to look at one of my documents and all was fine. I have bought this up with
someone from VFO and was told it was going to be fixed in the next update
but that was months ago and so far no fix. I am using Jaws 18 on this
machine but haven't checked the same documents on the machine running Jawx
2018. At first I thought it was something funny with my machine until I
mentioned it to this VFO person and I am now glad to see there are others
reporting the same thing.

Hopefully it will be fixed soon.
>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016

Hi Annette,

Thank you very much for the confirmation.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: amca...@verizon.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016


Hi Mike,

Based on what I have figured out, the black on black announcement from JAWS
is not accurate.  Visually it is black on white.  I have not played with
actual font colors and backgrounds to see how JAWS reports seeing the
colors, but I have found that using the "highlighter" JAWS accurately
reports the highlight color and the text as being black.  I wasted a lot of
time trying to figure this out and got nowhere.  I finally snagged a
co-worker who was walking by my office and borrowed their eyes.  They
reported that everything looked fine on the screen as well as when I printed
it out.  I've not checked any of this out in Excel.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 4:57 PM
To: Jaws-Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, J16 thru J2018 latest, with Office 2016.  In Word
Jaws is reporting that the colors are, black on black.  Where do I go to
change  the background color to white?  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to disable the ribbon in Microsoft outlook 2016

[Sharon S]

Hi, I use the virtual ribbon in outlook and it makes a great difference. I'm
not totally sure what version of outlook I have but I have been using the
virtual ribbon since the ribbon menus came out.

>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to disable the ribbon in Microsoft outlook
2016

Look at the training materials in the JAWS help menu for the so-called
virtual ribbon. I assume, but don't know for a fact, that it works with
Outlook 2016. This virtual ribbon is VFO's attempt to substitute a simpler
form of menu navigation. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Jay
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to disable the ribbon in microsoft outlook 2016

Hi. 

 

Does anyone know how to disable the ribbon in Microsoft outlook 2016 so that
it would be easier to navigate?

 

Thanks. 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

[Sharon S]

Hi, thanks for this. I have done it so now it is a matter of waiting until I
need to restart my machine to see if it worked.

>From Shaz.


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Stephen Bennett
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

Hi tom and Sharon

If you go to Jaws Options, then braille, just before the OK button there
should be a checkbox for Show Braille load Errors. If you uncheck this, the
message should go away. I've checked this in Jaws 17.

Hope this helps,

S


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

I have the same problem. Now I can't use my braille display and I keep 
getting the message even if I select "No braille display" in the braille 
basics menu of JAWS.

-Original Message- 
From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 12:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

Hi, I have had this message coming up for quite some time. For me it started
after I tried to install a braille driver for my braille display and even
though I followed all instructions I could never get the braille displays to
work. Now I am stuck with this braille driver error every time I load Jaws.
When it first happened to me I ask for suggestions but none of them worked.

Sorry not much help but if you do find an answer I would love to hear it.
>From Shaz.

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michael's mail
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:05 PM
To: jaws help list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

Hi guys i have noticed on 1 of my laptops after it boots up i get a message
saying their was an error loading the braille  driver.
I do not use braille how can i fix this.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

[Sharon S]

Hi, I have had this message coming up for quite some time. For me it started
after I tried to install a braille driver for my braille display and even
though I followed all instructions I could never get the braille displays to
work. Now I am stuck with this braille driver error every time I load Jaws.
When it first happened to me I ask for suggestions but none of them worked.

Sorry not much help but if you do find an answer I would love to hear it.
>From Shaz.

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michael's mail
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:05 PM
To: jaws help list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

Hi guys i have noticed on 1 of my laptops after it boots up i get a message
saying their was an error loading the braille  driver.
I do not use braille how can i fix this.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Sharon S]

Hi, I have the same issue using windows 10 and Jaws 18. I normally alt tab
between jaws and the log on screen and press esc key while on the log on
screen. Sometimes the esc works and sometimes it doesn't. I find between the
esc key, alt tabbing and just plain tabbing the edit box ends up coming up.
I have had this issue for quite some time but I don't have it occurring so
much on my PC running jaws 17 and my new laptop running jaws 2018 .All three
computers are running windows 10 with latest updates.

I would be interested if anyone is able to solve this one.
>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on
screen

Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed
for me yet.

I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.

I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.  

 

 

Mike Mote 

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet navigation questions

[Sharon S]

Hi, yes esc will get you out of the form field.

From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Michele Thredgold
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet navigation questions

What about if you are in a text field? Is there a way of navigating to the 
nearest button from a text field? Called pressing a skate get you out of form 
is mode so that you can then press before button?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2018, at 1:16 pm, Justin Williams  
> wrote:
> 
> X will take you from to each check button.  B will take you through the 
> buttons until you hear submit.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:42 PM
> To: JAWS List 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet navigation questions
> 
> Hi all. I have a couple of questions pertaining to navigating webpages with 
> Internet explorer, latest version, on a Windows 10 laptop with the latest 
> version of Jaws.
> 
> Is that a keyboard shortcut to navigate straight to areas that have 
> checkboxes? I found one on the Woolworths website in accessibility settings, 
> but I had to keep moving down headings to get to it because I couldn’t 
> remember if there was a shortcut. Also, if you are filling in a form that is 
> set out like a table, is there a quick way of getting to the submit button 
> halfway through the table, if the rest of the questions or fields are not 
> applicable to you? It is so tiresome having to tab seven or eight times 
> before you reach the button.  I know pressing the letter B takes you to 
> whatever buttons are on the page, but if you are in the middle of text 
> fields, this can be tricky. Any feedback would be useful.
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?

[Sharon S]

Hi Judy and all, I will also keep these instructions to try it myself
sometime. I have received emails like this and they can be quite fun. It is
allot better now that Jaws and the music can play at the same time. There
was once a time when I opened one of these messages and my sound card would
only play one thing at a time so I couldn't read the message in the email
once the song started.

Good luck Judy and hope you get it working.
>From Shaz.

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Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?

Judy has received all sorts of criticism for this idea. It's a shame she
can't ask a valid question and just get practical suggestions. True, I
wouldn't want to receive musical email messages much of the time, either,
but once in a great while, especially when it came with a friend's fond
thoughts, I'd be delighted. 

- Original Message - 
> From: "Judy Jones"  To:
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:15 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?
>>I have seen this done, and would like to send a St. Patrick's Day greeting
>> that way.
> I have the tune in an mp3 format.
> Is there any way to do this?
> Thanks!
> Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft outlook 2010 desktop

[Sharon S]

Hi, thanks for this it is one I have never heard of. I have always used 
control, shirt and B to open the address book.

From Shaz.

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Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft outlook 2010 desktop

Hi Kevin,

From Outlook's main window, just press CTRL+3. To return to the Mail view, 
press CTRL+1.

Hope it helps!

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Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 9:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft outlook 2010 desktop

How do I get my address book and edit contacts?

E-mail is golden!!!
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[JAWS-Users] Turning on and off the screen shade

[Sharon S]

Hi all, I am running windows 10, Jaws 2018 on an Acer laptop. I went to show
something I was working on to my mum the other day, but she couldn't see
anything on the screen. My brother had a look at it tonight while I was out
and said it doesn't look like a hardware issue it looks more likely a
software issue. When mum told me this I remembered the Jaws screen shade. I
don't recall turning it on and I have no idea how to find out if it is on or
not. I have spent some time in the different menu options tonight but can't
find any reference to it. Could someone please tell me how this is turned on
and off so I can see if this is the problem.

 

I am thinking more and more this could be the problem since this is a
brand-new laptop so there shouldn't be any hardware issues. If it isn't
Jaws, then I will have to contact Acer helpdesk and see what they suggest. 

 

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about sounds.

[Sharon S]

Hi, funny you mention this. The same thing has been happening for me on my
brand new Acer laptop. I'm running windows 10 and jaws 2018, as far as I
know everything is up to date. I was going to ask my IT brother to have a
look at it when he has a free minute but since you have mentioned it here I
will be interested to see if anyone has any suggestions. My older laptop is
also an Acer running windows 10 but I have only put jaws 18 on it. The older
machine has no issues with sounds.

Hope we can get some answers.
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Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:30 PM
To: jaws help list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about sounds.

Hi guys i have noticed on 1 of my laptops the sound goes silly some times.
Its not a screen reader issue.
But all the sounds go very gargly and lots of reverb.
After a reboot all is good.
But its driving me crazy it just happens at any time.
Running latest win 10.
I have not had this happen on any other machine.
I was thinking it might be a sound driver problem.
ut i have checked that its the up to date driver.
AAny ideas thanks.Michael.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] making a rule

[Sharon S]

Hi, once you have created the rule this easy way go back into the rules menu
under applications. Arrow down this list and you will find manage rules.
This will bring up a list of all your rules. Highlight the rule you want the
sound for then tab to modify and hit enter. In here you should be able to go
through all your settings for that rule and find the sound option.

I hope this helps, I tried going through the steps myself before sending but
my computer refused to go into the rules menu option.

>From Shaz.

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Behalf Of patti
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] making a rule

Ok what about making a sound different from your inbox. How would you do
that?
Patti


Hi Patti,
Here is step by step how to do it the easy way.
How to create a new folder in Outlook 2010 and 2016 by Jim and Ed Here is
how to create a folder and make emails go into a certain folder in outlook.
This is just the simplest way I have seen to make a folder and cause the
directed emails to go into it.
Using Outlook 2016or 2010 and Jaws. 
For example, making a folder for the Jaws users list or making a folder for
the Windows 10 and Jaws Yahoo group.
1. Be on the email account you wish to add a folder to.
For example: ***outlook.com, the *** standing for your name followed by
the email address.
Highlight that account folder, press the applications key while on it.
2. Go down to: New Folder... press enter.
3. Type in the folder name, press enter.
The new folder is created.
4. Go into the inbox of the account you have added the new folder to.
5. Arrow down and highlight the email you wish to put into this folder.
For example: Jaws users list or the Windows 10 and Jaws list.
6. Press the applications key.
7. Arrow down to Rules sub menu, press the right arrow key one time.
8. Press enter on: Always move messages from***followed by the name of the
group or person for this folder.
9. Arrow up and down through the list of folders in this tree view, find the
new folder, press enter.
10. All the emails for now on that you have selected, either a list, group,
or personal email, from these choices will always go into this new folder.
Remember while in the tree view of folders, right arrow key, expands a
folder account, and left arrow closes the list of folders for that account.
This also works in Outlook 2010.
This is a much easier way of doing rules for the outlook email client.
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Behalf Of patti
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 7:28 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] making a rule

Hey Gang,

I'm running J18, MS word 2010, and windows 10 creator.

I've been trying to create a rule for hours, and I give up, because I don't
know what I'm doing wrong after step 13. Here is what I did.

Can I please get help?

Thanks Patti

 

First I create the folder,

Next we need to assign a rule/filter to the newly created folder, By doing
the following;

1, highlight a message which you wish to create a folder for, Example; One
of the messages from this group. )JAWS-Users)

2, press applications key, up arrow and enter on, Rules sub-menu, right
arrow to open.

Another way to do this is:

Press applications key, press the letter "s"

And then press the letter "u", which will directly place you into the
message wizard.

3, Here you will see the following screen;

Always Move Messages From:

Always Move Messages To:

Create Rule...

Manage Rules & Alerts...

you now need to down arrow and enter on, create rule

Note, as I indicated, if you use the shortcuts, the letter "s"&"u" no need
to arrow anywhere, since you're in the message rule wizard.

4, you will now see a screen;

Create Rule

When I get e-mail with all of the selected conditions From

  by default this box is unchecked you can check this box.

Tab

5, When I get e-mail with all of the selected conditions Subject contains
this box is unchecked by default I would leave this box as it is.

Tab

6, When I get e-mail with all of the selected conditions Sent to

this box is unchecked by default you can check this box.

Tab

7, Do the following Display in the New Item Alert window by default this box
is unchecked, you can leave as 

Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging messages by date only in Outlook 2010

[Sharon S]

Hi, it sounds like you have it shown in conversations. I don't know of any
other settings that will show the messages this way. If you go to view, then
to messages the first option is arrange by conversations and see if that is
checked.


I notice you mentioned a conversations button being greyed out but I'm not
sure where this is. I'm using the latest version of Outlook and the option
in the menu works for me.

I'm probably not much help here but though  I would put it out there and see
what happens.
>From Shaz.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] arranging messages by date only in Outlook 2010

Hello folks.

 

I've looked for answers to this online already, and nothing quite seems to
resemble my own personal experience, so maybe someone here can offer a quick
suggestion.

 

Right now, Outlook will display messages mostly in a chronological list,
with the most recent on the bottom. This is good. However, it groups things
together, by subject, and I discovered I can miss messages this way if I'm
not careful. I'd like sorting to be done only by chronology, so that all my
internet invoices for instance aren't grouped together in the list; replies
to a thread only appear in the list according to the date on which they show
up and not because they belong in a thread together. I hope this makes
sense. I have read about the "conversations" view that started in this
version of Outlook (I believe), yet the "conversations" button in the view
tab of the ribbon . actually seems to be greyed out. So, maybe it's
something much simpler I'm looking for, like "sort by subject". I have to
admit that outlook's flagging, sorting and grouping features leave me
scratching my head a little, in part because of the way JAWS seems to handle
them. I'm probably just missing something straightforward. Anyway, I'm
running outlook 2010, as said, and JAWS 18, with a pop3 style incoming
server account. Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

[Sharon S]

Hi, I hear this sometimes when starting my machine and I just guessed it was
something to do with the sign in page of windows. Do you have to put in a
password? I do and it is on this window I sometimes get this message.

I don't think it is anything to worry about.

Bye for now.
>From Shaz.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Hello,

 

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 .. 

 

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.

 

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.

 

I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.

 

Laura

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[Sharon Gosling]

I have Windows 10 Anniversary edition and when I wake up the computer I 
press Escape. It just says escape but I type in my 4 digit pin with no 
feedback and it goes to the desktop or whatever was open. Don't know why but 
I don't argue with success!

Works the same with Jaws 17 and 18.

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: michael fridey

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:54 PM
To: jaws help list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in
screen.

I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.

Is anybody else finding that.

cheers Michael.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets in MS Word 2013

[Sharon S.]

Hi al, a quick way to add bullets are if you hit shift 8. This give you a star 
which turns into a bullet once you hit space. I know this happens to me 
everytime I try and put a star in a document.
From Shaz.Sent from my android.On 20 Jun 2017 2:20 p.m., Steve 
 wrote:
>
> Yeah, they don't necessarily help in using Jaws.  The point is if you are 
> writing a Word document and you want to make some specific points that will 
> stand out as they are read in a printed format in particular, although I 
> have embossed bulleted text in Braille before.
>
> Thinkk of it as being similar to an outline, except that they are unnumbered 
> and generally all at the same level.
>
> Even if you have a documented that is bulleted, you can set Jaws using the 
> speech schemes to not read those if you want to ignore them.
>
> Steve
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Vicky Vaughan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets in MS Word 2013
>
> > How do the bullits help in using Jaws?
> >
> > The reason I ask, is because to me, just listening to them, they don't add 
> > anything to the understanding of the material and just are a form of 
> > verble clutter.
> >
> > Vicky
> >
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Annette Carr
> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:43 PM
> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets in MS Word 2013
> >
> > When using the bullet feature in MS-Word, it provides a very clean visual
> > appearance.  Let me see if I can explain.  The bullet will be up against 
> > the
> > left margin, or most frequently ¼ of an inch to the right of the left
> > margin.  This is called the hanging indent.  The start of the text will be 
> > a
> > little to the right of the bullet.  As an example, let's say that the 
> > bullet
> > is 1/4 of an inch wide, and the space between the bullet and the start of
> > the text is 1/4 of an inch.  This means that the text is starting 1/2 of 
> > an
> > inch away from the left margin.  This is called the left indent and is .5 
> > of
> > an inch from the left margin.  If the text you are typing is longer than 
> > the
> > line and needs to wrap down to the next line, the start of that subsequent
> > line will be positioned right under the start of the previous line’s text 
> > at
> > the 1/2 inch mark from the left margin.  When you are at the beginning of 
> > a
> > line, you can use the Insert+f command to learn about the hanging indent 
> > and
> > left indent positions.  If JAWS announces Aligned left, then you know the
> > text is flush against the left margin and there is not a bullet at the 
> > start
> > of the information.
> >
> >
> >
> > The use of bullets makes it easier for the visual reader to quickly move
> > from one item to the next.  Personally, I find it also allows me to 
> > quickly
> > move through bulleted information with JAWS.
> >
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Annette
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> > Behalf Of Judy Jones
> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:46 PM
> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets in MS Word 2013
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> >
> >
> > I always type an asterisk with a space where I want my bullet.  For me 
> > this
> > is in bulleting paragraphs or sentences, and at the beginnings of lines.
> >
> >
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >
> > From: JAWS-Users-List [ 
> > mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
> >  jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
> >
> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:09 PM
> >
> > To:   
> > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets in MS Word 2013
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks. Will this take me to the list of choices of bullets?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >
> > From: DGH
> >
> > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:55 PM
> >
> > To:   
> > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets in MS Word 2013
> >
> >
> >
> > Control shift L will begin insertion of bullets.
> >
> > Pressin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

[Sharon S]

Cool I really like this feature. My only problem with it is in the list of
daily forecasts it doesn't give you the expected high for the current day or
expected low for the current night. I'm sure it used to have this
information but I can't remember when it disappeared.

>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of mi...@orbitelcom.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

Eric Damry answered a note I had sent him today with news that this feature 
will be fixed in the next update out in a few weeks.

-Original Message- 
From: Rose
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

Today no forecast!  Are blind people supposed to never know what to expect
because we don't get out?  Just annoyed.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather

Is FS aware that the weather in Research It is not working?



Anyway to contact Weather wonderground aside from the webpage?  I have only
today's forecast and a bunch of stuff about fire warning that does not
really apply to my area.



Yesterday I managed to get a full forecast but today only today's.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] The insert and escape keys, your best friend part two

[Sharon Gosling]

Jim, thanks for the written tutorials you have done lately. I save them all 
for reference. They are easy to search for specific information when I need 
to perform a certain task.
So thanks again and keep producing these wonderful text tutorials since they 
are so useful and appreciated.

Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Louise Johnson

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The insert and escape keys,your best friend part 
two


Hi Jim I also want to thank you for putting them together. There simple and
easy to understand. I am keeping them to go over when I want to learn more.
I learn a few things at a time and this helps as I can learn some and then
go back and learn more Louise and princess Kiara who says mom is always at
that computer


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: February 14, 2017 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The insert and escape keys, your best friend part
two

Jim:

I want to publicly thank you for all the effort you are putting into these
little tutorials you have developed.

They seem to be very useful, and I have saved them for future reference.

Thanks again, Jim!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 7:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] The insert and escape keys, your best friend part two

The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part two.

So useing the laptop keyboard layout in Jaws is an advantage, not a
drawback.

Again for this lesson I will call the capslock key the Jaws key and the
numpad insert key, the insert key.

For example: For some Jaws keystrokes you must use the numpad insert key
instead of the capslock key, plus a letter on the keyboard to accomplish a
task.

Example, If you are running Jaws from the system trey, Pressing numpad
Insert+J, Brings up the JAWS options menu window, with the options sub
Insert+menu
highlighted for you.

Pressing the capslock key, JAWSKey+J, Moves to the prior word and speaks it.

Another example, Pressing the Numpad Insert+H, Places JAWS Hot Keys in the
Virtual Viewer.

You can review them with the Arrow keys, and press the Escape key to close
this window.

Pressing the Caplocks key JAWSKey+H, speaks the current sentence.

So it's very nice to have another Jaws modifier key, to use when pressing
Jaws keystrokes involving the pressing of many keys on the keyboard.

**Now let us look at how to use Jaws layered keystrokes, Insert+Spacebar,
followed by a letter.

This means when you press Insert+Spacebar, you will hear a ding sound, you
then can press a certain letter or key to open one of the many options for
the Jaws layered keystrokes.

For example: Pressing Insert+Spacebar, followed by the ? Question mark, you
will hear:

Search commands press J.

Repeat last background notification from Skype press Shift+R.

Show recent speech history press H.

Clear recent speech history press Shift+H.

View text on clipboard press C.

Select text between marked place and current position press M.

Customize web page with Flexible Web press X.

ResearchIt press R.

OCR Feature Layer press O.

Table Navigation Layer press T.

Switch to your recent Windows Live Messages press Number row 1 through 5.

Text Analyzer press A.

Mute Synthesizer press S.

Lock Keyboard press L.

Toggle audio ducking press D.

So let us look at most of these layered keystrokes one at a time.

**Pressing either the Numpad Insert+Spacebar, or the Capslock Jaws
key+Spacebar, followed by the letter J, opens the search for Jaws
key+commands
window.

For example, after pressing Insert+Spacebar, followed by J, You are in a
Jaws search for commands edit box, type the word copy, press the tab key,
you are put in a Jaws HTML page of results.

You can use the Arrow keys or H, for heading or Insert+F7, for a Links list,
press the Escape key to close this window.

Below is an example of what comes up, when you type the word copy in to the
Jaws search for commands edit box, and press the Tab key, I have shortened
the results.

*Copy Selected Text To Clipboard. Control + C

Standard Windows copy command, usually found in the Edit menu, any selected
text or items will be copied to the Windows Clipboard. The selected items or
text can then be pasted into another window or application.

*View Clipboard Text. Insert + Space, C

The Clipboard Text Viewer displays all text that has been copied to the
Windows Clipboard using the standard Windows Copy and Cut commands.

*Virtualize Window. Alt + Insert + W

This keystroke displays the text in the current window in the Virtual
Viewer. You can then select the text and copy and paste it to another
application, such as an e-mail message. This is especially useful in error

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Sharon Gosling]

I shop on the Amazon site quite a bit and generally have no trouble even 
though I use Firefox instead of IE since the security is better according to 
computer experts. But I  have found that the Amazon app on my iPhone is 
extremely accessible and seems to sync with my cart on the computer.  I find 
it easier to reorder items using the order list on the phone since it is a 
continuous list instead of having items grouped into the separate orders. If 
I actually place the order on the phone it uses the fingerprint to sign in 
which is handy.

Sherrie Gosling

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Gene, I'm sincerely sorry for bringing this about. We are strangers 
communicating via impersonal, easily misconstrued email. I have two 
concerns. One is that we all gain simple access to all websites, a distant 
goal. The other is to reward websites that make accessibility a priority. 
After the recent 60 Minutes episode attacking lawyers who randomly file 
lawsuits against websites, hotels and other institutions for alleged 
violations of the American with Disabilities Act, along with a movement in 
Congress to cut back on private ADA-related lawsuits,  I feel it is even 
more incumbent on us to show appreciation for a company's accessibility 
efforts. Whether or not you agree, and knowing your particular frustration 
with the Amazon website, this is what motivated my posts in this thread.


All of us on this list have different experiences and different levels of 
comfort with online activity. Despite my misgivings about separate 
accessible websites, I understand why many screenreader users gravitate to 
them. Watching family and friends as they grow into senior citizens, I also 
assume that one day I will be equally baffled by ever-changing technology. I 
find it hard enough as it is.


I would still urge you to limit your approach to any website owner to 
specific problems you have. That's all I mean to say.


Let me add that I appreciate your numerous recent contributions to this 
list, as I can tell others do as well.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

So because you aren't having any problems, that I am and that I've gone so 
far as to do a complete reinstall of Windows and JAWS which doesn't resolve 
the problem to avoid upsetting your perfect little world I should just shut 
up and suffer?


Thank you for that useful and considerate piece of advice!



On 1/8/2017 10:24 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
I don't understand how this responds to what I and others wrote. Like you, 
I use IE. Also, as I said, I don't use their accessibility page exactly 
for the reason you indicate: that such pages risk segregating visually 
impaired people. Often in such cases, information is inadvertently 
excluded that is available on the company's regular website.


The fact is that Amazon's website is unusually accessible. Rather than 
write off an entire website as inaccessible when you may be having 
problems but other screenreader users aren't, contact Amazon and specify 
the exact problem. When I've done so with Amazon, I usually notice a fix 
in the days and weeks to come. I wish all webmasters were as responsive. 
We owe such companies respect.


I've never had to use Amazon's return page, so it may be something for 
Amazon to look into. If no one else on this list has a suggestion for you, 
go ahead and alert them. But if you attack them on the grounds that their 
website is generally inaccessible, you're doing both Amazon and many 
screenreader users an injustice.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found 
that it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.


One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button"
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but 
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless 
label.


Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but 
could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I 
get the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had 
to call their customer service and get their help to submit the return 
request. This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was 
several months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons 
problem which is well over a year old.


Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail and JAWS

[Sharon Gosling]

Occasionally I have noticed this problem and solve it by pressing Alt 
Spacebar to bring up system menu and choose x to maximize the window.  For 
some reason the window sometimes needs to be maximized.  This has happened 
on both my Win 7 and Win 10 laptops.

HTH
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher

Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 1:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail and JAWS

Hello,
It does not work at all. Whenever I am in the list of messages it will
not tell me if a message is unread. How can I make sure that the unread
colum is int the list of colums to display?

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/7/2016 11:59 AM, Jim wrote:

Hi Greg,
In WLM, While in the list of emails in any box, such as inbox, junk email 
and so on.
You have to press the up and down arrows keys to get Jaws to read, read or 
unread.






Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be 
spiritually balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens 
where God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail and JAWS

Hello everyone,
I am using JAWS17 on a Windows 10 laptop. I am trying to use Windows
Live Mail 2012 and I am having some issues. The main one is how do I get
JAWS to tell me if a message is unread or not as well if the messages
are collapsed or expanded in a group? I listened to a podcast where
someone was demonstrating Windows Live Mail 2012 and it was telling them
whether the message was unread or not.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

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Re: [JAWS-Users] some help with outlook please?

[Sharon Gosling]

Hi,
I am using WLM on Win 10 with Jaws 17 (not latest) and I get hundreds of 
emails every day. Most of the email groups are pretty good about having 
descriptive subject lines. So I just decide by the subject line whether to 
bother opening it if it is a topic I might be interested in.
I am not sure you can get just Outlook and if you can it is expensive. I 
checked into it when I got my last Win 7 laptop and decided that WLM was 
good enough.

Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Zoe Fiogkos

Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] some help with outlook please?

Hi everyone, hope you guys are all having a great day.
So I was going to install windows live mail on my windows 10 laptop running
jaws 17 (not latest version), but I was told for it to work correctly I have
to have reading pain turned off.  My problem is this and I'm sure a lot of
you can relate to this.  I belong to 10 or so mailing lists, and that means
hundreds of messages per day.  The mail client I'll be using needs to
provide the following workable feature with jaws.
I need jaws to read the senders name, subject, and then to proceed to read a
couple of lines of the body of the email, so I can decide weather to delete
the message or to open it for further reading.  Right now I'm using outlook
on windows 7 laptop with jaws 15 and this feature works great.
As I'm scrolling through the messages in my imbox, I here for example
message unread, from mike, subject help with ie11, and then the date. Then I
hear jaws say for example hi guys I'm a beginner with ie11.
At that point I can decide weather to just hit my delete key or enter to
open it.  This makes it easy to go through hundreds of messages per day.
I'm sure a lot of you know where I'm coming from.
So my problem is this windows laptop doesn't have outlook and I've visited
the office.com website and either I'm having a brain fart, or the website is
screwed up, or it's just not offered.
I want to buy outlook email client and nothing else.  I don't want the
office 365 subscription but I can't figure it out.  Can anyone help?  Can
anyone steer me in the right direction?
Thanks again for any help
Regards
Zoe
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

[Sharon Gosling]

Just for the record I tried this suggestion of Caps Lock and Function key 
together on a Toshiba Satellite that was already set to standard function 
key mode and it did not switch it to media mode. I tried several times using 
shorter or longer presses but it did nothing.

Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: terry kebbel

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

Try using caps lock and Fn it's a  toggle. That will toggle from media to Fm

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: 16 February, 2016 7:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

When I go to the mobility center, I have these options:
c hange display brightness, change audio settings, mute, change power
settings, change taplet/pc settings your current status is lancscape, change
display settings, and change sincrinzation.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 6:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

perhaps the easiest is,
1, from desktop,
press the keystroke windows-key+x,
2, now down arrow and enter on,
windows mobility center.
3, now use the tab key and look for something which sounds like, toggle
Function Key "Function Key" instead of "Multimedia key", tab once and arrow
up or down to make the change, now alt+f4 to exit from mobility center.
hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

Hi,

As stated before I got me a new laptop, the function key commands such as
insert f12 will not read the time. How do I make them work? No ordinary
commands that jaws uses with the function keys will work.

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

[Sharon Gosling]

That is what the mobility center on my new Toshiba Satellite laptop says as 
well. My old Dell had the change function key choice in the mobility center 
but my Toshiba Satellite does not.
I can't remember exactly what I did to fixit but I googled the brand and 
model of my laptop and the words change to standard function key mode or 
something similar. For Toshiba there was a setup program they said to go to 
or download from Toshiba and you could change it there.
I know I did it myself so it was not one of those where it says you could 
screw things up if you did not do exactly what they said.

Hope this helps.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

When I go to the mobility center, I have these options:
c hange display brightness, change audio settings, mute, change power
settings, change taplet/pc settings your current status is lancscape, change
display settings, and change sincrinzation.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 6:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

perhaps the easiest is,
1, from desktop,
press the keystroke windows-key+x,
2, now down arrow and enter on,
windows mobility center.
3, now use the tab key and look for something which sounds like, toggle
Function Key "Function Key" instead of "Multimedia key", tab once and arrow
up or down to make the change, now alt+f4 to exit from mobility center.
hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and function keys

Hi,

As stated before I got me a new laptop, the function key commands such as
insert f12 will not read the time. How do I make them work? No ordinary
commands that jaws uses with the function keys will work.

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox revisited

[Sharon Gosling]

I am using Firefox latest on a new Win 10 computer with latest Jaws.  For 
several days now when Firefox first opens, whether to my Google home page or 
to another page opened from a link, Jaws reads out the following alert:

Alert!
chrome://browser/content/devtools/commandlineoutput.xhtml
GCLI is an experiment to create a highly usable command line for web 
developers.

For a list of commands type
»
help
, or to show/hide command hints press
F1/Escape
.
Got it!
Mozilla Firefox

I do not have Chrome installed. I looked at my Firefox add ons and there is 
nothing about Chrome.  listed. I did read recently that there is a Chrome 
add-on that is harmful.
The Internet Explorer on my Toshiba laptop does not seem to work that well 
and IE has usually had more security problems than FF.

But, anyway, FF works pretty well on Win 10, at least for me.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 1:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox revisited

Hello and Happy New Year-



I saw a part of a thread on the latest Firefox with a warning but I could
not find the rest of the thread.  I have a new computer and planned to
download Firefox.  Is there a problem with the latest version of Firefox?  I
am using Windows 7 and JAWS 15.



Thanks in advance for any help.



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] email on my laptop

[Sharon Gosling]

I am using WLM 12 on my new Win 10 laptop and it seems to be working well 
although I have not done the repair. When looking online it seemed that the 
repair caused problems as well as fixing some so I am taking my chances for 
now.
I only have gmail accounts.  The only problem I am having at all with it is 
that I can't get the rules to stick. I have set up rules several times and 
saved them and then applied them and they worked fine. But the future mail 
was not sorted and when I opened the rules list none had been retained.
I have Outlook 2013 but it is totally different and I can't find 
instructions for using it, so I am not ready to tackle it until I can find 
some really good tutorials or instructions.

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email on my laptop

well if you decide to use wlm, you'll need to install the patch microsoft
developed.  so you'll need to download windows live essentials and the wlm
patch.  if you don't install the patch wlm will not work!

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:53 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email on my laptop

Up until now I have no email client on the doormat. It is a win 10 machine
and wondering if I can install windows live mail and then import my email
from my pop 3 account. I know that I would have to export it to a usb drive
then import. I then would like to use a Gmail account. I want to keep all of
my address book information there. Maybe a little later use both the Gmail
account and my Comcast pop3 account.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] read messages show as unread WLM 12

[Sharon Gosling]

I  have this happen but it is when the conversation is collapsed and all the 
messages in it are not read.  I can't find the graphics that used to let me 
know that an email was part of a conversation in WLM 12 on my new Win 10 
laptop as it did in WLM 11 on my Win 7 computer.
To check if this is the case right arrow o the email that you have read 
and that is still marked unread.  It might be part of a conversation.

HTH
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 2:36 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] read messages show as unread WLM 12

Windows 10 Wlm 12 Jaws 17
For some reason messages that have been read in WLM are still showing as 
unread. This started this morning for no reason that I can determine. Any 
suggestions?  Thanks, Tom

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[JAWS-Users] No acrobat reader on new Toshiba Win 10 laptop

[Sharon Gosling]

Setting up my new Toshiba laptop and the frustration is almost overwhelming at 
times.  At least when people upgrade to Win 10 they already have all their apps 
still installed. Learning a new system, a new keyboard, and trying to install 
programs is a challenge.
Maybe the touch screen on the new laptop will come in handy for things like 
iTunes that cause super problems for me.
So my first question is where do I get Acrobat reader safely and which version 
do I need?  The users manual for the laptop is a pdf that insists on opening in 
Edge which sucks.
I do have Firefox installed and listed as the default. The IE that was on here 
has extreme problems working with Win 10. 
Thanks for advice about Acrobat for now.
Sherrie Gosling
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Re: [JAWS-Users] silent toolbar on firefox

[Sharon Gosling]

You might have the full screen mode turned on.  I seem to remember that the 
tool bar does not show when this is on.  It toggles off and on with F11. At 
least it used to according to my notes.

Also try Alt V for the view menu and make sure the tool bars are checked.
HTH,
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] silent toolbar on firefox

i installed firefox 42 on my laptop, and everything works, links,
buttons, with jaws, except for the toolbar. i have firefox on my home
and work desktops, and i can get to, and hear the toolbar on them,
with either alt, or alt + the heading letter. anyone know how i can
fix this?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

[Sharon Gosling]

I have entered nicknames for most of the contacts I use most often and I 
just have to type the nicknames into the TO field separated by commas and 
WLM puts in the actual email address. I usually have to tab and shift tab to 
have the addresses read out.
I find it much easier to remember the nicknames than the beginning of the 
actual email addresses.

Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Thanks. That works.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Hi LeDon,
As long as a contact is saved to your contact list.
Just type four letters of the beginning of their email address into the Too
field.
Tab and Shift+tab, and WLM will fill the rest of the person's, email in for
you.
This has been a little bug in WLM, for a long time.
Good luck.




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Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him
your soul.
Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever
you go.
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-Original Message-
From: Mike
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Hi LeDon,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Honestly, I do not know how to
make WLM autofill the To field. There very well may  be a setting for this,
but thus far, I have not run a cross it. Typically, if I want to put the
receipients address into the To field without having to type them, I will
shift tab up to the "Select Contacts" button, find the contact in my list,
and press enter to put that address in my To field. I then scroll up or down
to find the next contact if I am sending to more than one receipient.

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Hello Mike. I was able to get WLM to read as I wanted it to by following
your instructions. The only thing was after finding the view tab, I had to
tab down to, Message list View dropdown". Instead of what you told me to
look for. After pressing the space bar to open it, wow, there was my choice.
I selected it. I didn't have to tab to OK or save to make it take effect. I
want to thank you for your help. Without it I would never have found it.

May I ask you another question? When using outlook when I start a new email
and I type a letter outlook tries to fill in the to box automatically. If
that is not the one that I want then I use the arrow key to hunt for it. How
do you get WLM to automatically fill in the email address in the to field.
Is this clear or have I just flubbed up my description as usual? Thank you
so much for your help. LeDon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Hi LeDon,

The latest version of Windows Live Mail is 2012. If Jaws is not reading what
is showing on the screen, then I suspect that this is a Jaws problem, not a
WLM problem. Did you change the view of your reading pane as I outlined for
you in an earlier message? If not, then you should check these settings. 1.
Open the View tab on the ribbon tab in WLM 2012. 2. tab down to the item
that reads "Message Line View". 3. Press the space bar to activate this
item. 4. Arrow down to the "One Line View" item and press enter to check
this choice. 5. Tab down to Apply and then around to OK, pressing enter on
both of these. 6. This should change the view so that each email you receive
tells you the sender, the subject, and the time and date that the message
was sent.

Let me know if this works for you or not. If it doesn't, then you should go
ahead and ask Freedom Scientific about the problem.

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 3:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Sorry, I need to change the subject. When looking at my in box in WLM jaws
speaks only the subject of the emails in the in box. I would like for jaws
to tell me who the email 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Switching From POP3 To IMAP

[Sharon Gosling]

I have pop3 on my computer and imap on my phone and it seems that the pop 
folder structure can be altered in the computer email program. I am using 
WLM 2011. The imap folder structure is the same as that on the original 
gmail account as it appears on the web.  To make changes in the imap folder 
structure, at least on gmail, I have to do it on the internet by signing 
into my gmail account and setting up filters and folders, etc.

HTH
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 5:25 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Switching From POP3 To IMAP

Howdy Y'all,

Running Windows 7 64 bit Pro, Outlook Express, & Jaws 16.  I created an IMAP
account in OE & now I have both POP3 & IMAP folders showing for my mb69mach1
identity but, they do not have the same folder structure.  I have folders in
POP3 that are not in the IMAP & folders in IMAP that are not in POP3.

Am I supposed to delete 1 of the accounts?  I'm assuming I should remove the
POP3 account but, can I then create / remove folders in the IMAP account the
way I normally would in OE & POP3?  Also, how in the hell do you delete
messages in the IMAP folders?  LOL  LOL  I don't need messages saved on the
server forever!  We use Charter for our ISP & accessing Charter's WebMail to
delete messages is impossible, for me anyways!

Am I going about this all wrong?  If there is another way I should be going
about switching to IMAP using OE would someone please inform me on how to do
it?  All help will be greatly accepted & what few hairs I have left will be
very appreciative!  LOL  LOL
Thank y'all mooy moocho.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Sharon Gosling]

I did a search on Google and found the podcast. It was on Accessible World 
Tech Talk.

It is the second half of a podcast that includes info about Firefox.
The link to download it is on this page:
http://www.accessibleworld.org/

The actual link is:
http://www.accessibleworld.org/sites/default/files/tt-08-31-15-featuring-gene-asner-discussing-changes-firefox-bob-edenhofer-vipre.mp3

The part about Firefox is long and I made the mistake of letting it play on 
the computer instead of downloading it to  a podcast player so I did not 
know how to skip ahead.
I use Vipre and have left the 2014 version in place as it is simple to 
navigate but I will probably have to upgrade at some time.  Actually, the 
2015 version is confusing even for sighted novices as my sighted sister gave 
up on it.


HTH
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 10:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

FYI he just un-subscribed from the list again. He does that quite often,
comes and goes.

I imagine if you contact him privately he will help you out. I don't
normally post this kind of information, but in this case I made an
exception.


David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Holgar,

Bob Edenhofer recently did a podcast on Vipre. I do not know where it can be
found, but I will get him to post the details A S A P.

Mike


-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

For those who are using vipre internet security, do you have a guide on how
to move and use the program? Using jaws 15.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws stalling

[Sharon Gosling]

I am running Win 7, 6 gb of ram, latest Jaws.

I think my Jaws stalling problem was caused by the Win 10 upgrade icon 
sitting in the system tray.
I had planned to upgrade to Win 10 but my Dell evidently has some error that 
will not allow it to do so. So the icon just sat in the system tray for the 
last month or two.  Finally my brain connected a major problem I have been 
having every day with this icon.  The problem was that every morning when I 
woke up my computer it would talk for maybe a minute  and then the hard 
drive would spin at top speed and  Jaws would go silent and no keystrokes 
seemed to work.  It felt like something was taking over the computer. This 
happened every morning and could last for ten or more minutes but I would 
usually have to force a restart with the power button and that generally 
helped, but sometimes it did it again.
I have both Vipre and Webroot anti virus running on my computer and neither 
found any problem.
Then I got to thinking about reading that Microsoft was using computers that 
had upgraded to Windows 10 to send out the upgrade to others or something 
like that.
Anyway, I removed the update and the computer worked fine. But the next day 
it was back and so was the problem. So I removed it again and then hid the 
update.  So far so good. Today I started the computer and it has worked 
perfectly for two hours so far.

Sherrie Gosling
.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws stalling

I don't use Mozilla, but when I launch iTunes, JAWS 16 will always -- and I
mean every time -- quit and reload. Very irritating. I prefer the old method
where it says "Not Responding". At least I had some sort of audio feedback,
rather than dumb silence.

Windows 7 32-bit and latest JAWS 16 build.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 05:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws stalling


does anyone other than me have a jaws stalling problem when mozilla firefox
starts up?

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws stalling

It all boils down to limited resources. No matter how much your system has
under the hood so to speak when everything tries accessing an internet
connection which as we all know is probably the slowest component of your
computing experience things are going to bog down until programs like Adobe
just to name one gets happy and finishes what it has to do. I've noticed
even with 8 GB of memory on a couple of systems it can happen that things
just take care of business in their own time. The less the memory the more
the lag on the system.

I know of somebody who has 2 GB of memory on a 32 bit system, trust me there
is a lot of spitting and sputtering on that thing before it settles down.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws stalling

Kevin,

Would this be right after boot up, or at any time? Sometimes, JAWS was
stalling on me shortly after it restarts after log in, and I have discovered
that it was because of other items starting up at the same time from the
start up options in Task manager. Once I had disabled some of the
unnecessary items there, JAWS stopped doing this.
This has happened at times other than start up when a program has tried to
update itself. The automatic updates for software like Adobe and some others
that appear in the start up options can really cause JAWS to go berserk.

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws stalling

I’m using windows 10 and latest build of jaws
I’ve been experiencing stalls of jaws at times and the only way I can revive
jaws is alt+tab until there is jaws speech again.  would this be something
with jaws and win 10 that only FS can fix
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows live mail 2011

[Sharon Gosling]

I would imagine that it only works with pop because the imap  keeps the same 
folder structure as the actual account such as with gmail.
The message rules button in WLM 11 is located in the folders tab in the one 
labeled groups.
To put imap messages into folders you would need to set it up on the 
original site such as gmail.


Sherrie Gosling
-Original Message- 
From: Mark Brett

Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 8:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows live mail 2011

Can you do this with imap accounts or just pop?

Thanks

Mark

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 1:13 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows live mail 2011

I do not use WLM 2011, I use 2012, and this is found on the Folders ribbon,
so you will have to look through your menus to find where the Message Rules
item is found. However, once you do find this, you would want to select
Where the From line contains a specific account, and in the next item you
would select Send to this specific folder, now, in the following edit
fields, you wouldtype in the email address for the JAWS Users List, then the
name of your folder. Next, give the rule a name. Now, click on apply and OK
to finish setting up your rule.

Mike
mike@comcast.net



-Original Message- 
From: Mark Brett

Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 4:45 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows live mail 2011

Hi I am using windows 8.1 with Jaws 16 and was wondering if someone could
give me a step by step on how to create a rule so that messages from this
list go into there own folder?

Many thanks in advance.

Mark
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Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

[Sharon Gosling]

Actually, you can install apps with a standard profile--- you just have to 
type in the administrative password in the User Control window instead of 
just clicking the yes button.

It is not a big deal and it is safer.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

thanks for correcting me!

-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

You're wrong.  Non-admins can get the updates; you just can't install new
programs and such.
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin

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Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator


maybe, but then you can't get the virus definitions, windows updates and
other updates.  or am I wrong?

-Original Message- 
From: Sharon Gosling

Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 7:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

Just a thought.  Kim Komando recommends using a standard user  profile for
your regular one.  It is safer since no software can be slipped onto your PC
since doing so requires the administrator password to be entered.  This is
much safer than using an administrative profile for your regular work.
I am a super cautious computer user and have both Vipre  and  Webroot
Security on my Win 7 laptop.  Another tip of hers I followed is to turn off
Flash in IE and Firefox.  Flash has to request permission to run and it is
very seldom necessary.
Sherrie Gosling



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

I'm using windows 7 pro!
if you know how to do it from win 7 pro it would be good.
I found the corrupt profile the profiles are not in column order

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

Hi Kevin,

If you are running Windows 8.1, tAdding a enew user has to be done by
selecting Settings from the charms bar, then Change PC Settings. Now select
Accounts, and then Other Accounts. Select Add and follow the prompts to
create your new account.

To make the new account the administrator, highlight the account name, and
change the account type from the account type drop down menu.

To remove the old account, highlight the account that you want to remove,
then tab around until you find the Remove button and click this.

All of these steps are done from the Other Accounts window found through the
settings charm as described above. If you have any other questions, just
post them, hth.

Mike
mike@comcast.net



-Original Message- 
From: kevin lee

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

I fixed the problem of no system sounds on my desktop by just creating a new
profile, but now I don’t have administrator rights.  how can I set a user as
the admin?  when I’m using the profile with system sounds and I go into
manage users all I see is standard user radio button checked and cancel.when
I go to manage all users all that’s displayed is the profile with the system
sounds and guest the profile without system sounds is not shown!  I want to
delete the existing profile which is the admin and make the one with sound
the admin.  is this possible to do without sighted help?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

[Sharon Gosling]

Just a thought.  Kim Komando recommends using a standard user  profile for 
your regular one.  It is safer since no software can be slipped onto your PC 
since doing so requires the administrator password to be entered.  This is 
much safer than using an administrative profile for your regular work.
I am a super cautious computer user and have both Vipre  and  Webroot 
Security on my Win 7 laptop.  Another tip of hers I followed is to turn off 
Flash in IE and Firefox.  Flash has to request permission to run and it is 
very seldom necessary.

Sherrie Gosling



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

I'm using windows 7 pro!
if you know how to do it from win 7 pro it would be good.
I found the corrupt profile the profiles are not in column order

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

Hi Kevin,

If you are running Windows 8.1, tAdding a enew user has to be done by
selecting Settings from the charms bar, then Change PC Settings. Now select
Accounts, and then Other Accounts. Select Add and follow the prompts to
create your new account.

To make the new account the administrator, highlight the account name, and
change the account type from the account type drop down menu.

To remove the old account, highlight the account that you want to remove,
then tab around until you find the Remove button and click this.

All of these steps are done from the Other Accounts window found through the
settings charm as described above. If you have any other questions, just
post them, hth.

Mike
mike@comcast.net



-Original Message- 
From: kevin lee

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] setting user as Administrator

I fixed the problem of no system sounds on my desktop by just creating a new
profile, but now I don’t have administrator rights.  how can I set a user as
the admin?  when I’m using the profile with system sounds and I go into
manage users all I see is standard user radio button checked and cancel.when
I go to manage all users all that’s displayed is the profile with the system
sounds and guest the profile without system sounds is not shown!  I want to
delete the existing profile which is the admin and make the one with sound
the admin.  is this possible to do without sighted help?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive

[Sharon Gosling]

I am planning to install 1drive but I had no trouble setting up Google Drive 
and it is another free 15 gb and also works like Dropbox.  I put my family 
videos in there and was totally surprised that the avi format videos played 
on my iPhone from  the Google Drive app.
Now I want to set up 1Drive to put my photos and maybe some music to store. 
I tried the iDrive last yearand got the bargain 100 gb but the interface is 
impossible with Jaws. I can't get to the files online to delete them and 
make room for the ones I want.  I have also used Carbonite for a few years 
but it was also hard to access online and even for the medium level it would 
not automatically back up my home videos.  I had to mark each one separately 
and then at some point their server had a blip and all the videos 
disappeared again.  And the videos of my kids are the most important thing 
on my computer!!

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive

I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it 
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30 
seconds on it.


Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything 
with it.


I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you 
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like 
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which 
isn't enough.

Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like 
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.


David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kimsan

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I attempted 
to be mr funny today.


He apologized and now we all move on.

Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



Have a great evening.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted to 
know why he made it as a curiosity.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!


I shouldn't chime, but I think his point was he doesn't care for vista?

I know where you're headed with that but...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

What's your point if I may be so bold as to ask?
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

- Original Message -
From: Bob Edenhofer bob.edenho...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!


Unfortunitly, I’ve got no clue about Vista, therefore, I don’t use it, nor 
do I care about vista, because I haven’t heard good things about it!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Dropbox Question

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I think the problem is not with Dropbox but with your Autoplay settings for 
the various content.
Type Autoplay into the search box in the start menu or get there however it 
works on Windows 8.
For each type of content you can set what you want autoplay to do.  Import 
to Dropbox is just one of the choices and probably is what is chosen in your 
autoplay settings. For all video and audio formats I mostly have mine set to 
ask me every time.  This causes the autoplay menu to appear whenever I 
insert any media into the computer.
For various DVD and CD formats you might wish to choose to have it begin 
playing in various programs that you can choose.
The autoplay settings are easy to navigate. Tab to the media types and use 
the arrows to choose your preference. Then choose Save.


HTH,
Sherrie Gosling
-Original Message- 
From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Dropbox Question

That makes two of us. As the flash drive I'm putting has my music and
Nls books, I wonder where these images are coming from?
What version of Dropbox do you have, free or pro, I have pro.

On 6/9/15, Tom Behler tombeh...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered to be too off topic, but I have an
interesting problem with dropbox.



I am not sure if this is a result of some sort of update, but whenever I
put
my main USB thumb drive into my computer, dropbox now starts automatically
downloading photos from that thumb drive into drop box.  While this 
process
doesn't usually create issues for me, it really is not needed for my use 
of

Dropbox, and I'd like to stop the process from occurring.



Does anyone know how to do this?



Thank you!



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Video file Format Converters

[Sharon Gosling]

Still blocked even with the second link.
I could override the blocking but I am paranoid about security.


-Original Message- 
From: Flor Lynch

Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 8:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video file Format Converters

It would. Because the .exe (actual file suffix) was cut off from the end of
the URL as it came to us. Try this.

http://download.freemake.net/FreemakeOriginals2/FreemakeVideoConverterSetup.exe

-Original Message- 
From: Sharon Gosling

Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 4:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video file Format Converters

Just a note...my Vipre blocked this link as a dangerous website.

-Original Message- 

From: Reza Bakhshi

Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video file Format Converters

Hello.
Plese go to this link and download freemake.
http://download.freemake.net/FreemakeOriginals2/FreemakeVideoConverterSetup.
exe

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Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 5:26 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Video file Format Converters

Hi friends,

Does anyone know a good, free video file format converter that works with
access technology?
Does anyone use format factory that can comment on it's accessability?

Many thanks in anticipation,





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Video file Format Converters

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Just a note...my Vipre blocked this link as a dangerous website.

-Original Message- 
From: Reza Bakhshi

Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video file Format Converters

Hello.
Plese go to this link and download freemake.
http://download.freemake.net/FreemakeOriginals2/FreemakeVideoConverterSetup.
exe

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Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 5:26 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Video file Format Converters

Hi friends,

Does anyone know a good, free video file format converter that works with
access technology?
Does anyone use format factory that can comment on it's accessability?

Many thanks in anticipation,





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mozilla or Internet Explorer browser

[Sharon Gosling]

I, too, use both browsers although I keep Firefox as the default since it is 
generally considered to be more secure than IE.  If I have trouble with a 
site then I switch to IE.
Ninite.com is the easiest way to install the program.  I use it for all the 
installations I possibly can since it is so automatic and doesn't install 
any extra junk.


One thing that makes it especially nice when switching back and forth 
between the two browsers is the ability to use the regular Favorites menu in 
Firefox.  To do this you need to install the add on Plain Old Favorites.

This is available from
http://www.iosart.com/firefox/plainoldfavorites/
Open the link in Firefox and install from there.
I never use the bookmarks in FF but always use the Favorites menu.  The only 
quirk I have found is that when adding a favorite from FF it works best when 
choosing the Add favorite and then using alt tab twice to move away from the 
window and then right back. Then just tab to the add button as usual.
One other difference between IE and FF is that to open a  private window in 
FF you find it in the file menu while in IE it is in the tools menu.

HTH,
Sherrie Gosling

..

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mozilla or Internet Explorer browser

Hi Fred,

Go to:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/

 look for:

link Free Download

press enter  your download should start.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Fred Adams

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mozilla or Internet Explorer browser


I am using W7, internet explorer and latest jaws.  I know some on this list
use Mozilla as a browser and I would appreciate info from you and
especially if you have used both mozilla and internet explorer.  I have
been looking at mozilla and thinking of installing it on my old bedroom
computer which is an old computer but still a good one.  Is this something
I can do myself and is this a large learning curve?I would appreciate your
thoughts, good or bad  Where can mozilla be downloaded from?.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mozilla or Internet Explorer browser

[Sharon Gosling]

I can't remember exactly the procedure for installing the plain old 
favorites since it has been so long since I did it. One way to check if it 
installed is to see if it added the favorites menu to the menu bar.  It is 
right after the bookmarks menu. I always update the FF when a new version 
comes out for security reasons and so far the plain old favorites continues 
to work.
Firefox often gives a pop up that it prevented a page from redirecting you 
to another page.  I usually ignore these except on the Bard site.  The FF 
shortcut is Alt A for this as well but only when the pop up is there.
I am a real security freak so I have followed the directions on Kim 
Komando's website and disabled  the  Adobe flash plug in on both browsers. 
When I want to see a video I can click to allow the program to run.  It is 
amazing how many websites run flash just to do some little unnecessary flash 
animations.  On sites where I regularly watch videos I have clicked the 
always allowed button for those sites.
This does cause the pop up asking to run flash flash to come up but I 
usually just ignore it as well and it goes away or at least it doesn't bug 
me again.  This was recommended because flash gets so many vulnerabilities 
that it is safer to only use it when necessary.



HTH,
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan Song

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mozilla or Internet Explorer browser

Hello:
How do I stop ff from stating/asking me to prevent from asking this
site to install yotta yotta? Sorry, I don't remember the exact message
that pops up each time, but I tried installing that plain oh favorites
from the link below; however, I keep getting that message.  It says to
press alt a which Ive done but how would I know if it allowed it, or
if it even installed? Nothing happens after pressing alt a.
I'm using latest jfw and latest ff. thanks.

On 4/15/15, Fred Adams hamsh...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

Sharon, very good info.  I will save it for future reference.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon Gosling
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mozilla or Internet Explorer browser

I, too, use both browsers although I keep Firefox as the default since it
is generally considered to be more secure than IE.  If I have trouble with
a site then I switch to IE.
Ninite.com is the easiest way to install the program.  I use it for all 
the

installations I possibly can since it is so automatic and doesn't install
any extra junk.

One thing that makes it especially nice when switching back and forth
between the two browsers is the ability to use the regular Favorites menu
in Firefox.  To do this you need to install the add on Plain Old 
Favorites.

This is available from
http://www.iosart.com/firefox/plainoldfavorites/
Open the link in Firefox and install from there.
I never use the bookmarks in FF but always use the Favorites menu.  The
only quirk I have found is that when adding a favorite from FF it works
best when choosing the Add favorite and then using alt tab twice to move
away from the window and then right back. Then just tab to the add button
as usual.
One other difference between IE and FF is that to open a  private window 
in

FF you find it in the file menu while in IE it is in the tools menu.
HTH,
Sherrie Gosling

..

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mozilla or Internet Explorer browser

Hi Fred,

Go to:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/

 look for:

link Free Download

press enter  your download should start.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Fred Adams
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mozilla or Internet Explorer browser


I am using W7, internet explorer and latest jaws.  I know some on this 
list

use Mozilla as a browser and I would appreciate info from you and
especially if you have used both mozilla and internet explorer.  I have
been looking at mozilla and thinking of installing it on my old bedroom
computer which is an old computer but still a good one.  Is this something
I can do myself and is this a large learning curve?I would appreciate your
thoughts, good or bad  Where can mozilla be downloaded from?.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

[Sharon Gosling]

There was a new update out today. 17.0.169
I go to the Add and Remove programs list and it gives you the date installed 
and the version



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

I just know cause I just updated, don't know how to tell because flash is
not very jaws friendly!

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

How can you tell with Jaws 13 on Windows 7, 64 Bit? I have the alternative
flash player updater, but I never know if it's really working.

Miriam

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Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 4:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

yes it is !

-Original Message-
From: anna vimini
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

Is this the correct version
17.00.134
It seems like it has not updated in a while so I just want to make sure.
thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS cursor not reading anything in Firefox

[Sharon Gosling]

Tried this with latest FF and Jaws cursor still just reads Graphics numbers. 
I am using Win 7.  Are these directions for Win 8?

Sherrie Gosling



-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS cursor not reading anything in Firefox

Hi Sharon  Prateek,

Try the following:

Question: Is there a way to use the JAWS Cursor in Firefox?
Answer: You can use the JAWS Cursor in Firefox after turning off Firefox's
hardware acceleration setting.
1. In Firefox, press ALT+T to open the Tools Menu and then choose Options.
2. From the Advanced options, choose the General tab.
3. Press TAB to move to the Use Hardware Acceleration when Available
checkbox. Press the SPACEBAR to clear it, then press ENTER to close the
dialog box.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Sharon Gosling

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS cursor not reading anything in Firefox


I did as directed and Jaws cursor still reads nothing except some graphic
numbers.  Also, Jaws did not recognize forms mode on my Google home page so
I put it back the way it was and the forms mode works again.

Using latest Jaws and latest FF on Win 7. Maybe these directions are for Win
8?
Sherrie Gosling

Now I will go back and change it back in case it messed something up.

-Original Message- 
From: Angela Delicata

Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS cursor not reading anything in Firefox

Hi,
This is also for tb.


Firefox and Thunderbird both use Direct2D renderingby default. This
prevents the JAWS cursor from detecting information.
Fortunatelyit is easy to disable this rendering. You need to do it
once for each versionof Firefox and Thunderbird you use on your
system. To do
this you need to settwo configuration variables to true:
gfx.direct2d.disabled, and layers.acceleration.disabled.

1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter about:config in the
address  bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate to
Options,
Advanced,  General, then Config Editor.

2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list
of  options.

3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the
first  few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific
option
in the  list. In this case, type gfx and press DOWN ARROW to
gfx.direct2d.disabled.

4. Assuming the option is set to false, press the APPLICATIONS KEY to
open  the context menu and choose Toggle. This will change the
option to true.

5. Go through the same process for layers.acceleration.disabled.

6. Close the Configuration Editor and restart Firefox or Thunderbird.
The JAWS  cursor should now show content.
Hth.
Angela from Italy
Il 01/04/2015 21:19, Dujari, Prateek ha scritto:

Hello gang.
I've been noticing consistently on my Win8 JFW16 PC that arrowing around
web pages using the JAWS cursor in Firefox reads nothing at all including
the many bars and such while doing so in Internet Explorer reads
everything just fine.  Would you pl share a solution so the JAWs cursor
reads everything on the window in Firefox?

Thanks much
Prateek

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS cursor not reading anything in Firefox

[Sharon Gosling]

I did as directed and Jaws cursor still reads nothing except some graphic 
numbers.  Also, Jaws did not recognize forms mode on my Google home page so 
I put it back the way it was and the forms mode works again.


Using latest Jaws and latest FF on Win 7. Maybe these directions are for Win 
8?

Sherrie Gosling

Now I will go back and change it back in case it messed something up.

-Original Message- 
From: Angela Delicata

Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS cursor not reading anything in Firefox

Hi,
This is also for tb.


Firefox and Thunderbird both use Direct2D renderingby default. This
prevents the JAWS cursor from detecting information.
Fortunatelyit is easy to disable this rendering. You need to do it
once for each versionof Firefox and Thunderbird you use on your
system. To do
this you need to settwo configuration variables to true:
gfx.direct2d.disabled, and layers.acceleration.disabled.

1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter about:config in the
address  bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate to
Options,
Advanced,  General, then Config Editor.

2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list
of  options.

3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the
first  few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific
option
in the  list. In this case, type gfx and press DOWN ARROW to
gfx.direct2d.disabled.

4. Assuming the option is set to false, press the APPLICATIONS KEY to
open  the context menu and choose Toggle. This will change the
option to true.

5. Go through the same process for layers.acceleration.disabled.

6. Close the Configuration Editor and restart Firefox or Thunderbird.
The JAWS  cursor should now show content.
Hth.
Angela from Italy
Il 01/04/2015 21:19, Dujari, Prateek ha scritto:

Hello gang.
I've been noticing consistently on my Win8 JFW16 PC that arrowing around 
web pages using the JAWS cursor in Firefox reads nothing at all including 
the many bars and such while doing so in Internet Explorer reads 
everything just fine.  Would you pl share a solution so the JAWs cursor 
reads everything on the window in Firefox?


Thanks much
Prateek

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Geek Squad and jumping JAWS

[Sharon Gosling]

This might sound like a dumb question but have you checked to be sure that 
the mousepad has not been activated if it is a laptop?  When I took my 
laptop for repair it came back with the mousepad on and I could no longer 
access the normal ways to turn it off.  I had to take it back so they could 
fix whatever setting controlled the

Windows Mobility Center which is how I turn the mousepad on and off.
The symptoms you describe sound like what happens to me when the mousepad is 
turned on.

Just a thought.
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Geek Squad and jumping JAWS

I just had the computer in to the Geek Squad for exactly that.  They were
supposed to clean it up.  I'll take it back for another check but I wondered
if they may have done something in updating or cleaning that messed up JAWS.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 05:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Geek Squad and jumping JAWS

this s ounds like a possible trojan, have you checked for spyware?

- Original Message - 
From: wayne smith waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Geek Squad and jumping JAWS



Hello-

I just took my computer to Geek Squad for a tune-up and cleanup.  I have
done it several times in the past.  This time I am running into several
problems.  When I have different Word docs open or I am writing an email
using Outlook 2007 JAWS appears to jump to other Windows without warning.



For example, I was writing an email and the focus kept jumping to things
like the Desktop, time and date or battery check and I had to alt tab back
to my email multiple times and its happening as I write this.  The same
thing happens when I am working in a MS Word doc.  Any thoughts on how to
get back my JAWS stability?  I have JAWS 14 and Windows 7



Also, I went on the web and to my bank.  When I tried to log in the bank
gave me a notice that it did not recognize my computer and I had to go
through a security process to get the recognition back.  I never had these
problems before with Geek Squad but I noticed that the people are new and
not as sharp as the old ones who suddenly disappeared.



Thanks in advance,



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Webroot SecureAnywhere AntiVirus

[Sharon Gosling]

I like this antivirus and find it usable although only with Jaws cursor on 
the laptop. It runs pretty much automatically and doesn't require much 
oversight. I like that it has an internet  console to control several 
functions. I especially like that it works with another antivirus 
installed.. I have Vipre as well. Here is the letter I sent to the group a 
while back about the program:


I read about the webroot security program on the Kim Komando website and 
decided to try the free trial just to see if I could manage it with Jaws.  I 
did do research on it first and was especially influenced by the article in 
PC magazine.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2470312,00.asp

It is a web based program and will work even with another anti virus 
installed.  I have Vipre but am totally paranoid about security since I do 
much online banking and shopping.


The following link is a page that gives detailed information about the 
features of the program.
In IE you can click on a feature and read the details.  This did not work in 
Firefox.

http://www.webroot.com/us/en/support/how-to-updates??utm_source=consumer-receiptutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Learn%20More%20-%20Receipt
I was able to install the program by myself although all interaction is 
through the Jaws cursor. Many settings are automatic and it shows up in the 
System Tray and tells  you whether protection is on.  Several choices are 
available when using the applications key on the System Tray icon.
The main screen takes some patience using the Jaws cursor and the left mouse 
simulation key.
I have spent much time yesterday and today to see just how well I was able 
to use the program with Jaws.  Most of the settings are automatic so it is 
not necessary to change much.
What I especially like is that they have an online console where you can 
find the information and it works well with Jaws and IE 11.It is a bit 
strange that you can press enter on many items on the webpage that are not 
marked as links but they work that way and allow the information to appear 
at the end of the list of choices.  This did not work with Firefox which I 
generally use as my default browser.  Also, when doing Google searches in IE 
Webroot gives an evaluation of each link which jaws reads.  This does not 
work with jaws in Firefox.


If you are interested in learning about the program or buying it at half 
price then go through the following link on the Kim Komando website.

http://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/promotions/kim?utm_source=komandoutm_medium=komando-bannerutm_campaign=komando

On Kim's site there is an option to download a free trial which I did and 
after the two weeks I decided to buy the program.  But you can't just click 
on the Buy It button in the trial or they charge you the full price.  You 
have to go back to the Kim Komando page and click buy it.  This, too, works 
better in IE since the purchase page includes a $10 for a CD of the program 
which is totally unnecessary.  I was able to uncheck the box using IE but 
not using Firefox.


There is also a comparison chart for the three levels of protection. I 
decided to go for the second level, the Internet Security for 3 computers or 
gadgets because of the extra identity protection feature.


The antivirus is $19, the Internet Security is $29 and the Complete is $39 
and includes 25 G of online back up.


I don't want to mislead anyone that it is totally accessible  with Jaws but 
it mostly is and I am pleased so far as most settings are automatic and I 
don't need the really advanced stuff.

HTH
Sherrie Gosling



-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Webroot SecureAnywhere AntiVirus

What do we know about this antivirus? is this accessible with jaws 15 or 16?

Holger Fiallo
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[JAWS-Users] I am using Webroot internet security successfully with Jaws

[Sharon Gosling]

I am using Jaws 16 on a 64 bit laptop running Win 7 just for the record. I read 
about the webroot security program on the Kim Komando website and decided to 
try the free trial just to see if I could manage it with Jaws.  I did do 
research on it first and was especially influenced by the article in PC 
magazine.  
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2470312,00.asp

It is a web based program and will work even with another anti virus installed. 
 I have Vipre but am totally paranoid about security since I do much online 
banking and shopping.

The following link is a page that gives detailed information about the features 
of the program.
In IE you can click on a feature and read the details.  This did not work in 
Firefox.
http://www.webroot.com/us/en/support/how-to-updates??utm_source=consumer-receiptutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Learn%20More%20-%20Receipt
I was able to install the program by myself although all interaction is through 
the Jaws cursor. Many settings are automatic and it shows up in the System Tray 
and tells  you whether protection is on.  Several choices are available when 
using the applications key on the System Tray icon.
The main screen takes some patience using the Jaws cursor and the left mouse 
simulation key.
I have spent much time yesterday and today to see just how well I was able to 
use the program with Jaws.  Most of the settings are automatic so it is not 
necessary to change much.
What I especially like is that they have an online console where you can find 
the information and it works well with Jaws and IE 11.It is a bit strange 
that you can press enter on many items on the webpage that are not marked as 
links but they work that way and allow the information to appear at the end of 
the list of choices.  This did not work with Firefox which I generally use as 
my default browser.  Also, when doing Google searches in IE Webroot gives an 
evaluation of each link which jaws reads.  This does not work with jaws in 
Firefox.

If you are interested in learning about the program or buying it at half price 
then go through the following link on the Kim Komando website.
http://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/promotions/kim?utm_source=komandoutm_medium=komando-bannerutm_campaign=komando

On Kim's site there is an option to download a free trial which I did and after 
the two weeks I decided to buy the program.  But you can't just click on the 
Buy It button in the trial or they charge you the full price.  You have to go 
back to the Kim Komando page and click buy it.  This, too, works better in IE 
since the purchase page includes a $10 for a CD of the program which is totally 
unnecessary.  I was able to uncheck the box using IE but not using Firefox.

There is also a comparison chart for the three levels of protection. I decided 
to go for the second level, the Internet Security for 3 computers or gadgets 
because of the extra identity protection feature.  This level also includes a 
password manager but I have not tried it yet.

The following prices are the half off prices from the Kim Komando website. The 
antivirus is $19, the Internet Security is $29 and the Complete is $39 and 
includes 25 G of online back up.

I don't want to mislead anyone that it is totally accessible  with Jaws but it 
mostly is and I am pleased so far as most settings are automatic and I don't 
need the really advanced stuff. 
HTH
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

[Sharon Gosling]

I would be careful trying the function key plus the key to the right of the 
F12 key since on my Dell Inspiron that is the mute key.  And I think 
function F3 might turn off the wireless. I do use function F11 to lower 
volume and function F12 to raise volume. Otherwise I feel safer using the 
Windows Mobility Center that I mentioned in my last reply.

Just a thought.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: david

Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

hello; not sure which model you have, however, I no of 3 different
keystrokes to disable and enable the mousepad.

function key+f3,
function key+f6,
function key+the key to the right of the f12 key.
not knowing your dell model, I really don't know.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Arianna Calesso
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

Does anyone know of a keystroke to disable or shut down the mousepad on a
Dell laptop?  I don't even have to touch the thing for it to make the cursor
jump away from the application I'm working in.  I've tried Device Manager
and there was no disable button or else JAWS couldn't read it.

Thanks for any help.

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

[Sharon Gosling]

I have a Dell Inspiron and it is easy to turn the mouse on and off with the 
Windows Mobility Center.  I would not want to use the complicated methods 
since sometimes I need to turn it on to get sighted help for clicking 
something that Jaws won't handle.
Anyway, the Windows Mobility Center is activated by locating the recessed 
buttons above the row of F keys at the top of the laptop.  On the left is 
only one button, the power button. Moving to the right side the first 
recessed button brings up the Windows Mobility Center.  This controls many 
settings but since Touchpad is the last one I use shift tab 3 times to have 
it read whether the touchpad is on or off.  I like to be absolutely sure I 
am in the right place. Then tab once and the next button will say either 
Turn off or Turn on depending. Then I just Alt F4 to close the window.
I just discovered that I could also bring up the Windows Mobility Center by 
typing it into the search box  in the start menu.
I do have Windows 7 but the Windows Mobility Center is a Dell thing so it 
might be available in Windows 8.
Other useful items I have used in the Dell Windows mobility Center is the 
ability to turn off the wireless signal and also I have changed the way the 
function keys are used since the original setting had them attached to a 
bunch of Dell commands that I did not use.


HTH,
Sherrie Gosling




-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

Does anyone know of a keystroke to disable or shut down the mousepad on a 
Dell laptop?  I don't even have to touch the thing for it to make the cursor 
jump away from the application I'm working in.  I've tried Device Manager 
and there was no disable button or else JAWS couldn't read it.


Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

[Sharon Gosling]

I just used it to turn off the wireless and then turn it back on
I Just tabbed to where it says that the wireless network status is on
Then you have to tab once more to the actual button that says Turn off 
wireless or Turn on wireless.. The computer makes a little ding and when I 
checked it worked. Jaws reads the Windows Mobility Center perfectly. You 
just have to tab to the button after the description.

HTH
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Teresa Arroyo

Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 12:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

Hello Sherrie,
I too have an dell Isnpiron; you can also leave movility center pressing the
scape key. Also, you can mpu the desktip batery function on to mantain
batery.

I haven't managed to turn the wireless signal on or off through this method.
How is it done?

Regards,

Teresa Arroyo

-Mensaje original- 
From: Sharon Gosling

Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

I have a Dell Inspiron and it is easy to turn the mouse on and off with the
Windows Mobility Center.  I would not want to use the complicated methods
since sometimes I need to turn it on to get sighted help for clicking
something that Jaws won't handle.
Anyway, the Windows Mobility Center is activated by locating the recessed
buttons above the row of F keys at the top of the laptop.  On the left is
only one button, the power button. Moving to the right side the first
recessed button brings up the Windows Mobility Center.  This controls many
settings but since Touchpad is the last one I use shift tab 3 times to have
it read whether the touchpad is on or off.  I like to be absolutely sure I
am in the right place. Then tab once and the next button will say either
Turn off or Turn on depending. Then I just Alt F4 to close the window.
I just discovered that I could also bring up the Windows Mobility Center by
typing it into the search box  in the start menu.
I do have Windows 7 but the Windows Mobility Center is a Dell thing so it
might be available in Windows 8.
Other useful items I have used in the Dell Windows mobility Center is the
ability to turn off the wireless signal and also I have changed the way the
function keys are used since the original setting had them attached to a
bunch of Dell commands that I did not use.

HTH,
Sherrie Gosling




-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

Does anyone know of a keystroke to disable or shut down the mousepad on a
Dell laptop?  I don't even have to touch the thing for it to make the cursor
jump away from the application I'm working in.  I've tried Device Manager
and there was no disable button or else JAWS couldn't read it.

Thanks for any help.

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] version 16

[Sharon Gosling]

I use the regular Amazon site all the time and with Firefox 35 it works 
normally as my last order had the free shipping. Around Christmas I had a 
great deal of trouble with the site as I could not change the number of 
items I wanted  but now that works as well. They even have the beginning of 
the shopping cart finally marked with a heading so I can find it by 
navigating by heading since in the past it was confusing to find the actual 
items that were in the cart.
I have my Firefox set to upgrade automatically since several of the last 
upgrades were for security reasons.  You might want to update your Firefox 
as this version seems to work fine with Jaws 16. At least as well as IE in 
most cases. Now I only use IE if I have some difficulty with Firefox in 
checking something or other such thing...

Just a suggestion.
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 16


I have given up trying to navigate the Amazon.com site using IE.  It seems
to be easier to navigate using Firefox, but I have discovered that when
placing an order, there are no longer any radio buttons on the page for
selecting the desired shipping option,so there is now no apparent way to
select free shipping, which is not the default (standard shipping is the
default, even if your order qualifies for free shipping).  So now when I
place an order with Amazon using Firefox 29 with the accessible site, I call
customer support as soon as I receive my email order confirmation to have
them adjust my order to apply free shipping instead of the default standard
shipping.  This is a nuisance, but fortunately, Amazon customer support is
very helpful, especially if you explain to the agent that you are a blind
customer who is having trouble with their accessible site. Amazon is
constantly tinkering with their site, much to the detriment of us blind
customers.

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Maria Campbell luc...@ct.metrocast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 16


 I have also had trouble with Amazon. However, I believe Amazon may have 
made changes that make JAWS work more difficult.



Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
luc...@ct.metrocast.net

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 1/19/2015 9:25 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
Ever since I installed Jaws version 16 using the Amazon web site has 
become a challenge. The accessible site is better than the regular site. 
I can count on IE 10 crashing when I navigate through the site. Anyone 
else having this problem Running Windows 7.  Tom


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Re: [JAWS-Users] status of VIPRE's accessibility

[Sharon Gosling]

Luckily, I did not have mine set to update the version of Vipre so I seem to 
still have the accessible version.  But it did download the current threat 
definitions.  My contract with them runs out in May so I may have to hold 
onto this version until then.

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: adam morris

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] status of VIPRE's accessibility

Hi Mario,

I spoke to tech support the other day explaining I wanted to go back to
2014.
They said the only difference between the new version and the old was
the interface.
They didn't give any indication of when support or definitions for the
2014 accessible version would happen.
I have heard that someone is working with someone at Vipre to make the
new 2015 version accessible.
Apparantly it should happen sometime early this year.



On 06-January-2015 12:19, Mario Brusco wrote:
I was wondering if there's an update to this issue, and if emailing 
customer

support would offer any info?
I'm concerned to as how long will the definitions keep being compatible 
with

2014's interface. at one point, support will not be possible anymore. am I
being paranoid about this?


when I had 2013, I recall being upgraded to 2014 well before the year 2014
rolled in. now I still have 2014 because 2015 was stated to be 
inaccessible.

but when will 2015 be JAWS friendly? of course no one knows, but...


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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE Antivirus Adjustment

[Sharon Gosling]

Yesterday mine said it was not enabled when I started the computer after 
being shut down for several days.  I went to the Vipre icon I keep on the 
desktop and went to settings and went through these to be sure none were 
changed. Now the Vipre icon is back in the system tray and says enabled.

Maybe they had a system wide glitch of some kind recently...
HTH,
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Boyd

Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:10 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE Antivirus Adjustment


Enabled, Not Available, means that it is not available to be disabled. I am
not running Vipre right now, but I did for years, and as I remember, wwhen
you open the program, you are on the scan tab, and it is either here, or in
the file menu, ALT + F, that you find the enable button or check box. Then
the first item under the Firewall tab allows you to enable or disable the
firewall by checking or unchecking a box. This is from about 8 years of
memories of using the product.

hth,
Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Liuda

Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:14 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE Antivirus Adjustment


I just heard some setting that said something about enabled, not available
whatever that means.  Does anybody have any idea?


I use JAWS 14, VIPRE Antivirus  and Win 7.

I just heard that VIPRE is disabled, although I did not do anything to cause
this to happen.

I have been using it for 4 years and I have never had any kind of problem
and I don't want any either.

I called Tech Support but they are not open today.

I searched everywhere to try to find something to tell me that it was
enabled but I cannot find this setting for some reason.

It is not even in my System Tray like it usually is now.

Can someone please tell me how to find this setting so I can determine if it
is enabled or disabled?

Thank you very much for your help.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Foxfire's Save password menu problem

[Sharon Gosling]

If you don't want to save the passwords, and it is not a good thing to do 
security wise, you can turn off that feature.
Go to the tools menu. Choose Security and uncheck the box to save passwords. 
Then there is a button that allows you to delete the passwords it has saved 
already.

Then choose OK

HTH,
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Don  Cher

Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Foxfire's Save password menu problem

When creating a profile on a FF site, JAWS uses the word 'menu' in the
dialog which asks if you want to save the password you entered in the
password list. However if you hit spacebar on this menu, you don't get any
choices- apparently the default is to save. How do you navigate this dialog
without saving as this dialog does not seem to follow normal windows
conventions? Thanks for reading.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Moving a link from message to desktop-another method

[Sharon Gosling]

Just another method that works for me.
Open the link in IE.
Use the File menu in IE to choose send.
Choose Send link to desktop as shortcut.
If you want you can  then rename the shortcut if necessary with F2.

I use this for lots of my most used sites.

It won't work in Firefox, however since the File menu in FF does not have 
the Send choice.


Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Liuda

Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Moving a link from message to desktop

Thank you very much, Denny.  It worked, finally.
Pleasant day!

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Denny Huff
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 4:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Moving a link from message to desktop

What you can try is...
Select and copy the link to the clipboard.
Go to your desk top.
Make sure nothing is selected on the desk top.  If something is, do a
control spacebar to unselect.
Press shift f10 which is the same as pressing your applications key.
Arrow up to, new and press enter.
Arrow down to, shortcut and press enter.
Paste the link from the clipboard into the edit field and tab to next.
Type in the name of the shortcut in the next edit field and tab to finish.

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Behalf Of Liuda
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:32 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Moving a link from message to desktop

How do I do this with JAWS 12, Win 7, Outlook 2010 and an application key
that does not work?

Thank you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] multiple printers and one note

[Sharon Gosling]

I just tried this on my Win 7 laptop with Jaws 15.
Go to Start menu
Type Devices
Choose View Devices and printers
Use right arrow to arrow through printer choices
When you reach the one you want use Alt F to open file menu
Set as default is the third choice, it will say checked if it is already the 
default

Press enter

About one note.  It did not show up in my printer list but it shows up all 
the time in other context menus and occasionally I accidentally click on 
it..  I would like to remove it completely from all menus if not from the 
computer itself.  When I want to make a note I open Wordpad or Notepad with 
shortcut keys and type or copy my info.  One note is just an extra pain.

HTH,
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Richard Hamel

Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 6:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] multiple printers and one note

Hi all,

Win 7 and15.0.

How do you set a particular printer as the default?

I have 2 printers in the house and when I go to print something, I have to
pick a printer.

It seems that the default is one note.

What is One note?

When I selected the printer I wanted and scrolled through the menu  and
application options, I did not see any option to make it as default printer.

I tried devices---and could not find the proper option either.



Thanks for your help.



Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] confused about JAVA

[Sharon Gosling]

Just a thought about interrupted downloads...I had that problem when we 
first got Brighthouse cable.  The desktop on wireless would download fine 
but my laptop always got interrupted and the speed was so slow it was 
useless.  I was paying for 25mb speed at that time.
Finally the second repair person solved the problem by putting in a 
different router with a lower maximum speed.  So I went back to the 10 mb 
and it worked  great ever since. Saved money, too, by not paying for the 
extra speed.
I was ready to pull out my hair before finding a solution.  Took it to the 
shop and had it overhauled with no luck.
As I said, just a thought since I don't know what your specific download 
interruptions are caused by but mine was in the specific router.  We did 
narrow it down to the router or the cable service since it downloaded 
correctly in other locations.

Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Don and Cher Bosch

Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confused about JAVA

Can't quite remember, does the current JAVA contain the accessibility stuff?
Any special directions for installing?

I have to install it to test my internet connection and try to resolve
interrupted downloads. Thanks.



Cher



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Resetting the location of a savednewDocorattachment

[Sharon Gosling]

How can I change the default folder for Wordpad?  Notepad always goes to 
last visited folder but Wordpad always goes to Documents and I would like it 
to go to the Dropbox folder.

Thanks,
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice

Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 11:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Resetting the location of a 
savednewDocorattachment


Okay Denny, thanks for the clerification.

Rick
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From: Denny Huff g...@gatewayfortheblind.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Resetting the location of a
savednewDocorattachment


Yes, word, outlook, excell and all MS Office applications.
If you save a document and change the default folder for that document in a
particular application then that folder remains open until you close that
application.  Once that application is reopened then it will revert back to
the original default folder.  The only way to change the default folder
permanantly for saving is to go to tools and options and change it there.




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-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice

Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Resetting the location of a saved
newDocorattachment

Hi Denny,
Which application are we talking about?
Is it Microsoft Office?
Rick
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From: Denny Huff g...@gatewayfortheblind.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Resetting the location of a saved new
Docorattachment


Rick,

   It only remains the default so long as you keep that application open.
Once the application is closed and then reopened, it reverts back to the
original default location.




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-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice

Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Resetting the location of a saved new Doc
orattachment

Hi Jorge,
In most, if not all Microsoft applications when you perform a save as,
you have an option in that dialogue to browse for a location to save your
document.
Once you have selected a location, that usually becomes the default.
So the next time you save something in the same application,it will be in
the last location you saved something to.
It is for this reason that I save everything to one location, and then move
it later .
HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Jorge Rivas jorgethehang...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 10:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Resetting the location of a saved new Doc or
attachment


Hi,

I noticed in this Wind 7 laptop, when I create a new doc or save an
attachment, it looks like it's being saved to the library and not my
Documents.



Can anyone guide me in changing the destination.



Thanks in advance,



   Jorge



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying A Table From A Web Page

[Sharon Gosling]

The following works in IE 10 now.  The formatting is lost in Firefox, 
however.

I am using Jaws 15, Win 7 and IE 10.
Use the Jaws command T to go to beginning of table.
Up arrow once and pay attention to the number of rows and columns.
Press F8 to highlight whole table.
Control C to copy table.

Paste into program of choice.

Some tables will work in an Excel spreadsheet easily if you highlight the 
proper number of rows and columns before pasting.
One of my banks works beautifully this way and I keep a spreadsheet that I 
add to directly from the bank website.  My other bank has a convoluted table 
format that does not paste into Excel in a usable format.

HTH
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)

Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying A Table From A Web Page

Hi friends,

I have a web page, a list of dates and fixtures on a web page, does anyone 
know if there is a way that I can highlight and copy this table in to a 
Microsoft word document, so that I can hhave a document with the table 
fixture and not the rest of the web page in please?


Many thanks in anticipation,



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying A Table From A Web Page

[Sharon Gosling]

I think the F8 should work even on older IE browsers.  I have used it for 
years and years.  I think it is a Jaws command but could be windows.

It is so much easier than the shift downarrow.
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)

Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying A Table From A Web Page

Brilliant, thanks very much indeed, I am using an older browser, msie7, is 
the f8 to highlight the table a JAWS command or just a general command in a 
newer browser version?
I managed to do it by using shift and down arrow to highlight each line 
individually, then copying and paisting, this went direct in to Excel like a 
charm, more luck than judgement I think :-)



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Sharon Gosling

Sent: 21 January 2014 13:58
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying A Table From A Web Page

The following works in IE 10 now.  The formatting is lost in Firefox, 
however.

I am using Jaws 15, Win 7 and IE 10.
Use the Jaws command T to go to beginning of table.
Up arrow once and pay attention to the number of rows and columns.
Press F8 to highlight whole table.
Control C to copy table.

Paste into program of choice.

Some tables will work in an Excel spreadsheet easily if you highlight the 
proper number of rows and columns before pasting.
One of my banks works beautifully this way and I keep a spreadsheet that I 
add to directly from the bank website.  My other bank has a convoluted table 
format that does not paste into Excel in a usable format.

HTH
Sherrie


-Original Message-
From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying A Table From A Web Page

Hi friends,

I have a web page, a list of dates and fixtures on a web page, does anyone 
know if there is a way that I can highlight and copy this table in to a 
Microsoft word document, so that I can hhave a document with the table 
fixture and not the rest of the web page in please?


Many thanks in anticipation,



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Re: [JAWS-Users] weird happenings with firefox

[Sharon Gosling]

This happens occasionally with latest Firefox and Jaws 15 on Win 7.  With 
Jaws 14 it happened a lot!  I used to restart the computer but discovered 
that I can use Alt Control Delete to go to task manager and make Firefox 
close. Much handier than having to  restart the whole computer.

Sherrie



-Original Message- 
From: Chris Hill

Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] weird happenings with firefox

Had that happen the other day.  Couldn't get it back for anything.  I
just figured it had something to do with windows 8.1, my wife could see
firefox when i alt-tabbed,  but we couldn't interact with it once the
crash started.



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has anyone experienced when multi tasking while using firefox a crash with 
the program?
when I use firefox the most recent version and I start multi tasking the 
display of firefox dissappears and sometimes jaws announces the website 
you were viewing mozilla firefox and other  times nothing is announced .
is this a bug with firefox or is it my computer, all of my other programs 
work fine

email is golden !
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading individual characters in email addresses and book titles

[Sharon Gosling]

Since you said you understood the advice about the addresses, here is an 
alternate process that also works to read book titles or any file name 
letter by letter.


1. Navigate to the title and Jaws reads it.
2. Press the F2 key
3. Press Control A to select all.
4. Press Control C to Copy the  information.
5. Press Escape to close the Renaming box.
6. Paste it into a notepad or other document  where you can navigate it with 
the arrow keys.


Sherrie
-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading individual characters in email addresses 
and book titles


Thanks. I understand the part about addresses. I tried the directions for
book titles, but couldn't do it.

Thanks anyway.

Miriam

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Behalf Of Sharon Gosling
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading individual characters in email addresses
and book titles

Whenever I want to go letter by letter in a file name such as a book title I
just press F2 for Rename.  Then I use the arrow and home keys to navigate
through without changing anything.  Then I can press Escape to leave without
saving any accidental changes. I can also use the copy feature when in the
rename field.


To read email addresses  letter by letter I often copy the address and then
open Notepad or Wordpad with keyboard shortcuts and paste the address there.

Then I can go letter by letter, etc.  I can close the document with or
without saving it.

To get an email address when my computer only shows me a name link I choose
forward or reply.  Then I look for the addresses in the To field or in the
body of the letter in the case of a forward.
I usually just copy the pertinent addresses and then close the email without
sending it.

I am using Win 7 and Jaws 15 but used these methods with all versions of
Jaws for many years.

HTH
Sherrie


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From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading individual characters in email addresses
andbook titles

With Jaws 13 on a Win7 computer,  I am having the following problem. If I
want to read letter by letter, the author of an NLS book I've downloaded to
my hard drive, I can't do it with the arrow keys. I sometimes want to see
how the author's name is spelled or how something in the title is spelled,
or I want to read just the DB number. But I can't get Jaws to do that. I
also can't get Jaws to read an email address in a header, letter by letter.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading individual characters in email addresses and book titles

[Sharon Gosling]

Whenever I want to go letter by letter in a file name such as a book title I 
just press F2 for Rename.  Then I use the arrow and home keys to navigate 
through without changing anything.  Then I can press Escape to leave without 
saving any accidental changes. I can also use the copy feature when in the 
rename field.



To read email addresses  letter by letter I often copy the address and then 
open Notepad or Wordpad with keyboard shortcuts and paste the address there. 
Then I can go letter by letter, etc.  I can close the document with or 
without saving it.


To get an email address when my computer only shows me a name link I choose 
forward or reply.  Then I look for the addresses in the To field or in the 
body of the letter in the case of a forward.
I usually just copy the pertinent addresses and then close the email without 
sending it.


I am using Win 7 and Jaws 15 but used these methods with all versions of 
Jaws for many years.


HTH
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading individual characters in email addresses 
andbook titles


With Jaws 13 on a Win7 computer,  I am having the following problem. If I
want to read letter by letter, the author of an NLS book I've downloaded to
my hard drive, I can't do it with the arrow keys. I sometimes want to see
how the author's name is spelled or how something in the title is spelled,
or I want to read just the DB number. But I can't get Jaws to do that. I
also can't get Jaws to read an email address in a header, letter by letter.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need steps on how to burning avi movie to DVD please

[Sharon Gosling]

I am not hearing impaired but really love text instructions because I save 
them for future reference and when I need to check on a specific detail I 
can search and find it right away.  With an mp3 I can get a good overview 
but not the specifics for future reference.
But I would be happy with whatever you come up with.  I have some old family 
movies I would like to put on DVD to share with the now grown up family 
members who were the child stars of our Christmas productions.

Sherrie


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From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need steps on how to burnan avi movie to DVD 
please


I HATE MP3 TUTORIALS, CAUSE I'M ALSO HEARING IMPAIRED AS WELL AS VISUALLY
IMPAIRED.  A TEXT TUTORIAL WOULD BE BETTER!

-Original Message- 
From: northstar1...@okiespirit.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need steps on how to burnan avi movie to DVD
please

O.K. let me tget the CHRISTmas holiday out of the way and i will see
about creating a recording on how to use dvd flick and i am even
going to see if i can add a little more to the scripts so we can set
up the dvd burning as well. as far as use the software, when you
execute the software, you can press f2 to bring all of the commands
available and execute them by arrowing to the one you want to use and
press enter. if you already have a dvd burning package, you can [ress
f2 and then press enter on add title and add your title to the layout
and if its only one, you can then press f2 once more and down arrow
to create dvd and dvd flick will start creating the dvd structure for
you and i believe it defaults to c:\dvdflick folder. creating an
audio.ts and a video_ts folder there. once dvd flick is done, you can
then simply select the video_ts folder and paste it in to your dvd
layout using your favorite dvd burning software.
merry CHRISTmas for now and i hope to have something done in the near
future.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/24/2013 10:59 AM, Kevin Lee said:

did you create video to video?  I installed it and the interface is not 
accessible.  I get

' to activate press space bar' what the hell am I activateing?
I need some precise instructions please.
I never got how to use dvd flick.

-Original Message- From: northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need steps on how to burnan avi movie to DVD 
please


i believe you tried to download the software from my http server but
your ip address apears to have been blocked so i have uploaded it to
sendspace and you should receive a download link shortly.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/24/2013 07:27 AM, Steve Boodram said:

Hi friends, I downloaded a movie in avi format and want to burn this to 
DVD. Could someone tell me how to achieve this please and what program 
should I use that is accessible with JAWS 14?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] what are the benefits of jaws 15 over jaws 14?

[Sharon Gosling]

I think Jaws 15 works somewhat better with IE and definitely better with 
newer versions of Firefox.
I learned the hard way that it does not pay to skip an upgrade. I went from 
version 4 to 7 to 9 then 11 and 13 before I bit the bullet and paid the $120 
for the advance copies.  I ended up having to pay for all the skipped 
versions at full price and did not have the convenience of actually using 
them.  So this time when 15 which was the last one I had prepaid for arrived 
and I went ahead and paid the $120 for the SMA of 16 and 17.  I am not sure 
what the deadline is but it is sometime in Dec. to pay for the next two 
versions.

Sherrie



-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] what are the benifits of jaws 15 over jaws 14?


And one more thing, as far as money goes;
If you get the latest version you can also get the longest coverage for
update licenses.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] what are the benifits of jaws 15 over jaws 14?

It works better with windows 8, but you are also getting other bug fixes.
I'd never buy an old version, Unless you plan on regaining your sight.  You
will probably need to upgrade eventually when your computer dies or
whatever, starting with an old version costs you money at upgrade time.



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On 12/15/2013 22:51, Mohib Anwar Rafel wrote:

Hi friends we are going to purchase jaws, but confused between jaws 14
and 15. Can anybody explain what are different benifits of jaws 15 in
compairison to 14?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Collapsed messages in WLM

[Sharon Gosling]

When you use the Insert V to go to the Quick settings you land in a search 
box.  Type Gr for instance and then arrow down.  The first choice  says 
something like tagged, all, or none.  Pressing spacebar on this rotates 
through those three choices.  Tagged is the default I think.  So just press 
spacebar to all.  Then tab three times to OK and press enter.

Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Hamel

Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Collapsed messages in WLM

Hi Sharon,
I hit the insert plusV but could not find the option to turn/off read all
graphics.
It was difficult negotiating all of the options with the tab and or arrow
keys.

Rich

-Original Message- 
From: Sharon Gosling

Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Collapsed messages in WLM

In Jaws 14 and WLM 2011 I was able to label the graphics for collapsed and
expanded and then have it read labeled graphics.  In Jaws 15 I cannot label
the graphics because I can't get the cursor to go to them like I did in 14.
But if you turn Read all graphics on in the quick settings (Insert V) then
it will give you the numbered graphics.  I am getting used to figuring out
which number is which.  The graphics are as follows in WLM 11.
249 Collapsed
304 Expanded
294 Read
656 Unread
160 Attachment

The 249 comes first when there are several graphics so you can use right
arrow to expand the list and left arrow to collapse the list again.
It might take a little getting used to but I really like having all my
threads kept together.

If anyone knows how to get to the graphics in WLM with Jaws 15 to label them
I would love to know.  I tried all the ways I could think of but couldn't
get the cursor on the actual graphic I needed to label. I used the
directions from the Windows Live Mail  2011 Guide but it did not work in
Jaws 15. Then I tried everything else I could think of but had no luck.


Sherrie Gosling



-Original Message- 
From: Hans Pauli Sundstein

Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Collapsed messages in WLM

Hi.

If you want to change the setting back to the view where you are got all
messages shown in one list, goto the view menu, Conversiations dropdown, and
select Off.

Hope this helps.

Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Richard Hamel

Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Collapsed messages in WLM

Hi all,
I have Win7 and 15.0 with WLM.
I couldn’t figure out why I would open a message and after hitting the
escape key, I would still hear”unread” message.
So, I hit the right arrow key and arrowed down and found a bunch of new
messages.
I never got any announcement that messages were collapsed. Who knows how
many messages I deleted.

Is there a way to get an announcement if messages are collapsed in WLM?
And, after opening all of the messages that now have been expanded how do
you collapse them again?

Thanks.

Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Collapsed messages in WLM

[Sharon Gosling]

In Jaws 14 and WLM 2011 I was able to label the graphics for collapsed and 
expanded and then have it read labeled graphics.  In Jaws 15 I cannot label 
the graphics because I can't get the cursor to go to them like I did in 14. 
But if you turn Read all graphics on in the quick settings (Insert V) then 
it will give you the numbered graphics.  I am getting used to figuring out 
which number is which.  The graphics are as follows in WLM 11.

249 Collapsed
304 Expanded
294 Read
656 Unread
160 Attachment

The 249 comes first when there are several graphics so you can use right 
arrow to expand the list and left arrow to collapse the list again.
It might take a little getting used to but I really like having all my 
threads kept together.


If anyone knows how to get to the graphics in WLM with Jaws 15 to label them 
I would love to know.  I tried all the ways I could think of but couldn't 
get the cursor on the actual graphic I needed to label. I used the 
directions from the Windows Live Mail  2011 Guide but it did not work in 
Jaws 15. Then I tried everything else I could think of but had no luck.



Sherrie Gosling



-Original Message- 
From: Hans Pauli Sundstein

Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Collapsed messages in WLM

Hi.

If you want to change the setting back to the view where you are got all
messages shown in one list, goto the view menu, Conversiations dropdown, and
select Off.

Hope this helps.

Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Richard Hamel

Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Collapsed messages in WLM

Hi all,
I have Win7 and 15.0 with WLM.
I couldn’t figure out why I would open a message and after hitting the
escape key, I would still hear”unread” message.
So, I hit the right arrow key and arrowed down and found a bunch of new
messages.
I never got any announcement that messages were collapsed. Who knows how
many messages I deleted.

Is there a way to get an announcement if messages are collapsed in WLM?
And, after opening all of the messages that now have been expanded how do
you collapse them again?

Thanks.

Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard

[Sharon Gosling]

Even if the old keyboard has the older connection you can get a converter. 
When I had a folding keyboard it had the older plug and I bought a converter 
to plug it into a USB port.

HTH,
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice

Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 7:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard

Hi Marilyn,
As long as the keyboard will connect to the computer,
it should work the same as on Windows XP.
If you have a keyboard with a PS2 connector, and there are no PS2 ports on
the new computer
then you would need to make a change.
HTH,
Rick Justice

Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more
than younger people have had a chance to learn!

- Original Message - 
From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 9:15 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] keyboard


People, why  do I need a new keyboard for windows seven?  Several people
have suggested that my keyboard for xp won't work on the new computer.  What
is the real story on this?  I use ergonomic keyboard  and wou
Marilynld be comfortable learning my new win 7 if I weren't fighting the new
ergonomic key board .  THanks.  Marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] links on website not working

[Sharon Gosling]

I went to the website you indicated and used Firefox (the next to last 
version) and the links would not click with enter or left mouse key or Jaws 
cursor or virtual cursor off or control insert enter. I did get the shopping 
bag link to activate and then some others by using control enter but the 
site is very unresponsive.  Tab does not usually do much and I mostly used 
the arrow down key to move down..

I could not do anything with IE11.
I am using Jaws 15 on a Win 7 laptop.
I could not try the Application plus enter since my Dell laptop does not 
have an Application key.  I have to use shift F10 for applications and that 
did nothing when I managed to press them with the enter key (which was a 
feat!

Sherrie


Original Message- 
From: Becky Buckner

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 11:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] links on website not working

Hello.
Using Windows 7 and JAWS 15 with IE 11, I find that the links on some sites 
will not work when I hit enter on them.  I noticed this also with JFW 15 
before I went to IE 11.


One site I just experienced this with is
http://www.vermontcountrystore.com
/store/#main

Anything I can change to get these links to work?  Is this just an Internet 
problem?


Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] links on website not working

[Sharon Gosling]

I tried holding the shift and enter on this website in IE11 and Firefox and 
got no results at all.  Only luck with opening some links was with Firefox.

Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 12:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] links on website not working

Hold down the shift key when you hit enter. My guess is your pop up blocker
is causing the problem and that will bypass it.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Becky Buckner
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 11:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] links on website not working

Hello.
Using Windows 7 and JAWS 15 with IE 11, I find that the links on some sites
will not work when I hit enter on them.  I noticed this also with JFW 15
before I went to IE 11.

One site I just experienced this with is
http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/store/#main

Anything I can change to get these links to work?  Is this just an Internet
problem?

Thanks for any help.

Becky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

[Sharon Gosling]

I find that when certain keystrokes don't work in WLM I Use the alt spacebar 
and then x to maximize the page and things work again most of the time. 
Don't know why the window does not stay maximized.
The biggest change I have noticed with Jaws 15 and WLM is that the labeled 
graphics like attachment, expanded, etc. don't work.  I am unable to label 
them in Jaws 15 because I can't navigate to the  graphics anymore.  I have 
tried many various ways, Jaws cursor, mouse cursor,virtual cursor off, and 
everything else I could think of but could not navigate to the graphics to 
label them.

So now I have just memorized the numbers.
656 is unread
294  is read
249 is collapsed
304 is expanded
160 is attachment
661 is also some kind of attachment, I think
I have deduced these from much trial and error.

I did not update the settings from Jaws 14 because I had 14 screwed up with 
a different voice for the say all and the spell rate was way too fast so I 
just like the basic defaults in the Jaws 15.  Guess I am set in my ways but 
I like my old Jaws buddy's voice. We have spent over 11 years together and I 
like him.

Sherrie

-Original Message- 
From: DGCNC

Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I am running Windows 7, Jaws 15 latest release and Windows Live Mail. 
Recently, when I press Alt to enter the menus or Ribbon, it now says “blank” 
and none of my keystrokes I normally would use work. Everything looks normal 
on the screen according to a sighted person. Has anybody else experienced 
this? Is there a fix? Did I miss some new way of operating in Windows 15?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win7 Power Options with JFW

[Sharon Gosling]

I have my laptop set to sleep after 15 minutes now because when I had it set 
to never I found that the fan ran all the time and the laptop ran very hot. 
It seems much better to let it cool off.  Now with Jaws 15 the sleep does 
not cause a problem on reawakening.  Previously when waking up the control 
or alt key would be activated so that if I pressed control and a key Jaws 
would say alt control and the key.  I did find that as a work around if I 
opened a new document in notepad and closed it that the keys went back to 
normal.  Go figure.
This has only happened once since I upgraded.  I haven't tried hibernation 
with Jaws 15 because it never worked previously in any way and sleep is good 
enough.

Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Don  Cher Bosch

Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win7 Power Options with JFW

I have a desktop instead- so do you know whether it does save wear and tear
on the hard drive to let it shut down? I was thinking that this point had
always been controversial- but not remembering clearly.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 5:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win7 Power Options with JFW

Hi Cher,
Those particular settings on a laptop are aimed mostly at conserving battery
power, how much wear and tear they save on hardware is arguable.
If you set everything to never just realize that if you are running on
battery, and not at the computer, there is no real conservation of power You
can extend the battery life somewhat by removing it while running on AC.
Note: this may not work on all laptops.
I have everything set to never on all of my machines, because I don't want
to experience unexpected behavior because I forgot about a minor setting.
(smile) HTH, Rick Justice

It's easier to keep up, than it is, to catch up


- Original Message -
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win7 Power Options with JFW


So letting the hard drive shut down or whatever does not cause any JAWS
issues for you? Do you just accept the default setting there? And, since
I've changed it, what is the default setting and what are you using if you
don't mind saying :) Thanks much.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win7 Power Options with JFW

So far as JAWS is concerned power management is not an issue. It is the
operation of your computer like waking it up ETC that is the problem.

I always turn that hibernation stuff off myself. The hard drive is personal
preference.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don  Cher Bosch
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Win7 Power Options with JFW

Does anyone know what FS recommends as the best power options settings for
Windows7? I have changed hibernate and sleep to Never, but what about the
hard drive itself. In earlier windows versions I think we were always
supposed to set that to Never. also. This system would sleep/hibernate in 20
or 30 minutes and there was nothing I could do to wake it back up- black
screen and no sound. What do others do with these settings?



Cher

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[JAWS-Users] Firefox much better with Jaws 15

[Sharon Gosling]

Just thought I would let people know that Firefox is working well with Jaws 15. 
  If you have been wanting to try Firefox or upgrade it now is the time to go 
for it.
I had upgraded to the latest Firefox when I still had Jaws 14 and it very 
frequently would freeze and only read the title of the page.  It would not 
close or allow any interaction.  I had to restart the computer to use Firefox 
again.  Also, the videos on Dr. Oz’s website caused it to freeze and they would 
not play although they worked fine with IE.
Now, with Jaws 15 Firefox is working pretty well and the Oz videos play.  I 
feel better about the security of my surfing with an updated version of 
Firefox.  Previously I had used Firefox 15 since it worked better with earlier 
versions of Jaws.  Just a note, I had to manually update the Good old favorites 
plugin so I could used synchronized favorites with IE and Firefox.  Very 
convenient since any favorite is immediately available in both programs.
I am trying to use Firefox for most Internet surfing because IE still has 
security issues.  In fact, windows itself still has some major unpatched flaws.
HTH,
Sherrie
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox, which version

[Sharon Gosling]

I have what I assume is the latest version of Firefox and find that it
frequently freezes and Jaws 14 only reads the title of the page.  I can't
get to the menus or to any portion of the page.  About the latest version of
Firefox that this did not happen with is 15 or 16.  But supposedly older
versions of browsers are not secure.  So, I, too, would like some
information about using the current version of Firefox.   When it works most
of the same key shortcuts as IE work except that I can't get to a back
button and the alt left arrow does not seem to do anything.
When it freezes the program will not close and I have to restart the
computer to get rid of the page.
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: susan

Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox, which version

Hi listers,
I’m running JAWS 12 on a Windows 7 machine and have what I believe to be the
latest version of Firefox although I don’t know where to confirm its number.
I have been trying to use Webvisum but have never gotten it to work. I’ve
found a tutorial and believe that the problem lies in the fact that under
Tools, options, Content there should be a heading to allow for loading
images which I’m not seeing. Any ideas where else to look for such a thing
and/or which is the most recent version of Firefox that I should try and
where to get it? Would appreciate any help as soon as possible. Many thanks.

Susan


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[JAWS-Users] Banking security with IE was Re: IE 10 or 11

[Sharon Gosling]

The only reason I upgrade browsers is the hope that new ones will be more 
secure.  But I do leave IE9 on the Win 7 desktop because it is easier to 
use.  Even if your old XP machine works the best with your bank I would be 
very hesitant to use it for banking.  Evidently XP gets a lot more security 
problems and after April it will be obsolete.  I have retired mine except to 
keep backups on.
I like IE 9 for my bank since I can copy the whole table of transactions and 
copy it directly into an Excel spreadsheet.  I have done this for years. 
With IE 10 and with Firefox the table will not copy in regular table format. 
It copies each cell as a long vertical  list which does no good with my 
Excel spreadsheet.
As for upgrading Jaws, I do this only in the hope that navigating the 
Internet will get better.  Lately with Jaws 14 I have found many websites 
that most links work and then I fill in lots of information and the submit 
link or some other important one will not respond to any key combinations.
So I guess I will go ahead and install my Jaws 15 today and hope for the 
best.
Just a thought...Kim Komando, the digital goddess, has mentioned in many 
recent newsletters that there is a security flaw in  windows which has not 
been patched yet.  For this reason I have been checking my bank info on my 
iPhone.

I also plan to purchase the identity theft protection very soon.
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Trish

Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10 or 11

Good point. Probably can't even go to 10 now with 11 out.

- Original Message - 
From: Angel angel...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10 or 11


If you can restore your system back to what it was before the newer program
installation.  What can you lose.  If what you install can't be undone, I
say, don't install it.  If the functions you perform on your computer are
vital to you.
- Original Message - 
From: Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com

To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] IE 10 or 11



I know this was just recently discussed and I read the posts. I want to try
this but I have this temperamental bank that gives me nothing but fits and
just recently they upgraded their computers and I just dreaded what that
would mean for me, fortunately the bill pay part did not change, so if I
upgrade my browser here, well hope yall understand why I am bit hesitant.
All my bills are setup through my bank's bill pay, this is crucial for me
to access.

I have been lazy here too, I have jaws 13 on my window's 7 laptop, 14 and
15 just came couple weeks ago, so get this now..a vender here locally who
sells FS products, has advised me not to install additional versions of
Jaws on one system. Well now, weather that is right or wrong, I have done
that in past. The dinosaur xp has 11 and 12 on it, but haven't installed
anything above 13 for the laptop, so what say ye on this subject?


Trish
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail

[Sharon Gosling]

You have to label the appropriate graphic to announce it.  It has been a 
while since I labeled them but basically you do the Insert V and have jaws 
announce all graphics.
Then the tricky part is figuring out which graphic is which...for example 
collapsed, expanded, attachment, etc. I sent myself various test emails 
until I was fairly confident which graphic was which and then used the Jaws 
graphic labeler to name them. Then set Jaws back to reading only labeled 
graphics.

HTH,
Sherrie



-Original Message- 
From: Richard Hamel

Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail

I somehow have some messages collapsed in WLM but I don't hear any sound or
notification that the messages are collapsed.
How can I adjust this setting?

Thanks.

Rich

-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W

Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail

WLM is a lot like Outlook Express, and works just fine with screen
readers.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail

...and just how accessible is it with jaws?
I have something that came with my windows 7 called windows live family
essentials, and so far everytime I ask about it no one knows what it is
sugar

I can see, and that is why I can be happy, in what you call the dark,
but which to me is golden. I can see a God-made world, not a man made
world.
`Hellen Keller
~Sugar

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail

Can I get a step by step instructions, I have never used windows live
mail bfore.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail

Just how much help do you require? Please be more specific.

I am just wondering is all, trying to gather more information.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the
ones that mind don't matter.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail

Good afternoon,]

I need some help in how to set up windows live mail 11 and a gmail
account.
I am using windows 7 home and jaws 15.



Thank you



Kathy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Favorites in IE

[Sharon Gosling]

On my Windows 7 laptop the Favorites folder is located in the folder with my 
name on it in the second column of the Start menu.  From there I can also 
easily re-arrange the links into folders or change the names or whatever. 
I also copy this folder frequently to my Dropbox folder so I have it backed 
up.

HTH
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Pauline

Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving Favorites in IE


Hi Everyone,

My computer is about to head into the repair shop and may need to be
replaced.
I would like to save a list of my favorites in IE but can't remember how to
do it.

If someone can tell me how to save favorites I would much appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Pauline



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Re: [JAWS-Users] IE10 with JFW15

[Sharon Gosling]

I haven't installed 15 yet but am using IE 10 with 14.  When the alt left 
arrow doesn't work it is quick to use alt v, then g and then enter. Alt view 
is the view menu, g is shortcut for Go to and the default is Back.  Once you 
get used to it, it makes a quick work around.

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Don and Cher Bosch

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] IE10 with JFW15

Still sometimes have the same issue with Alt-left arrow not changing to the
previous page. When It refuses to back up, closing the page with Control-W
closes IE altogether. Are there any settings changes that need to be made to
eliminate this issue? Are others experiencing this also?

Cher



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[JAWS-Users] Mousepad troubles with Jaws

[Sharon Gosling]

I recently had to bite the bullet and take my computer to be repaired.  The 
mousepad was turned off when I took it.
Now that I have it back the mouse is turned on and will not turn off.  I looked 
up the specific command for my Dell inspiron 15-r and it was Function key plus 
F3.  It said an orange light would come above the mousepad when it was turned 
off.  
This does not work.
There is also a flat “button above the F key row that brings up the Windows 
Mobility Center that has lots of settings.  This is where I always turned the 
mousepad on and off previously.  Now it says the mousepad is off and when I 
press the “Turn On” button nothing changes. But the mouse is not off.
The reason this is a problem is that Jaws constantly loses focus on whichever 
window I am trying to use.  Mostly it flips back to the desktop.  I am being 
scrupulously careful to keep my hands well elevated above the mousepad but it 
still flips off the window I have focus on.  And it does it very frequently, 
usually in less than a minute.  My husband is tired of listening to me yell at 
the computer so I thought I would write and see if this is a Jaws problem.  
Several years ago on a different laptop I accidentally had the mousepad on and 
had this loss of focus problem which disappeared when I turned the mousepad off.
But what is different this time is that I am definitely not touching the 
mousepad when it jumps although it could be mostly when I am typing.
Any suggestions to help resolve the problem will be appreciated.
Sherrie Gosling
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[JAWS-Users] Problems with new Jaws, IE 10, Windows Update

[Sharon Gosling]

I have a strange problem.  I was away a week ago and using a secure network at 
the vacation rental I stayed in.  When I turned on my computer Internet 
Explorer was gone.  It was not in the Start list or in the All Programs portion 
of the start menu.
I searched and found an Internet Explorer in both programs folders under the C 
drive.  I was able to open IE by clicking on iexplore.exe in the Internet 
Explorer folder.
I put shortcuts to this in the Start menu.  Mostly I use Firefox, though.

Well, today I had a weird experience.  I was downloading from BARD and no 
downloads would complete and what started to download was incredibly slow.  I 
had also upgraded to the new version of Jaws a few days ago.  So I had Win 7 64 
bit, IE 10, Firefox 21 and latest Jaws.  Could not download from NLS at all 
with either browser.  I followed the steps and downloads started and then later 
it would say download interrupted.

So I went to the other computer running Win 7 32 bit and IE 9.  Book after book 
downloaded in a matter of seconds each.  Very fast.  No problems.

So I rolled back Firefox to version 15 which had worked pretty well before.  
Still did not complete a book download using new Jaws.  So I put Jaws 13 back 
on and got 
a complete download in a reasonable amount of time. 

Still can’t get IE10 to download a whole book.  It did download a podcast, 
however.

I went to Windows Update to roll back the IE 10 to IE 9 by uninstalling the IE 
10 update but there was no IE 10 update installed.  There was one in the 
updates needing installation.  But it won’t install.  I keep getting Code 9c48 
whatever that is, every time I try to install the IE 10 update. Went to 
Microsoft support and help and still can’t figure out how IE 10 got on my 
computer and how to get it off!!!
So I am back to using Firefox 15 as default browser and occasionally the IE 10 
that is on the computer if FF doesn’t work.
Any geeks out there, I would be eternally grateful for help.  And I am curious 
to know if anyone else has had problems downloading when using the new Jaws.

Sherrie Gosling
sillygoose4...@gmail.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor not following PC cursor

[Sharon Gosling]

Why don't you just change Firefox to the default browser, at least 
temporarily, so the email will open in Firefox.  I have done that. I have 
also opened a link in one browser, copied the url onto the clipboard and 
then opened the other browser and inserted the url.
I find that in most cases Firefox is the most useful for many websites but 
occasionally IE will do a better job.
I don't have any advice about the Jaws cursor as I am finding it next to 
useless for anything on the Internet lately with either browser.

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Shari

Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor not following PC cursor

Sorry, I didn't do a very good job describing the problem. The site is
www.gardeners.com. I'm trying to add items to the shopping cart. All the
links work except add to cart, which Jaws doesn't recognize as a link in
either IE or Firefox. In Firefox, though, if I hit enter, the item ends up
in the shopping cart. Normally that would solve the problem, but there is a
20% off deal for this site, when clicking through the email containing the
deal. My email links open in IE, so if I order through FF, I won't get the
discount. What I want to do with the Jaws cursor is simulate a mouse click.
I've done that often before when Jaws keystrokes won't work on various
sites. But now when I route Jaws to PC, there's no add to cart text to click
on. I don't believe flash is the issue this time.Thanks,


Shari
- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor not following PC cursor



First, where (on what site or type os site: is it Flash?) is this
control JAWS doesn't recognize that you need to click? Have you tried it
with the virtual cursor off - JAWSKey+z? That is a toggle.

If you press ctrl+JAWSKey+NumPadMinus, you normally want to hear, the
JAWS cursor will not follow the PC cursor. That is also a toggle. Press
it twice within a second to save your desired setting.

(It's too confusing to have the JAWS cursor following the PC cursor all
the time: Plus, the PC cursor then doesn't move properly because it is
being restricted by the JAWS cursor.

- Original Message - 
From: Shari shariw...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 12:25 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor not following PC cursor



Hi All,

When I route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, I'm not in the same
place as I was with the PC cursor. I need to route the Jaws cursor to
the PC to click a control Jaws 13 isn't recognizing with either IE or
Firefox. When I route the Jaws cursor, it either switches me to
another open program, or it just reads a small amount of text no
matter whether the cursor is in real, focus, unrestricted, etc. I
guess somehow the 2 cursors have become unattached. Can someone please
tell me how to get them back together?

Thank you,
Shari

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[JAWS-Users] View on screen not follow Jaws PC cursor

[Sharon Gosling]

Sometimes when I can’t get Jaws to click an element I ask my sighted husband to 
click it with the regular mouse pad. It often seems that the portion of the 
webpage visible on the computer screen does not follow the Jaws PC cursor.  The 
problem is that when I find the location with Jaws he says the words are not on 
the screen.  Shouldn’t there be a visible cursor showing where the Jaws focus 
is on the screen?
Granted, my husband has vision but no computer skills so he can’t locate the 
spot I want him to click without much guidance from me.  Since I can’t see the 
screen at all I don’t know if there is a cursor there or not.
Would it affect Jaws if I tried to make the mouse pointer bigger or something, 
if it is really onscreen at all.
  
Is there some kind of Jaws page formatting that would make the page appear in 
the way sighted people see it?

Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Sherrie Gosling
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I prevent Firefox from automatically upgrading

[Sharon Gosling]

I was able to reinstall the regular version of FF 15 I had on my computer 
and followed the directions to prevent updates.  It seems to have worked. 
15 just installed over 19.
I did go to the site to download the portable version of Firefox and 
downloaded version portable 15 and portable 16.  But when I clicked on them 
it went to an upload/download page which said version 19 would be installed.
So I am glad I was able to put the regular version 15 on.  Now to see if it 
works and doesn't freeze.
But I do think Jaws should work on keeping the compatibility with upgrades 
of IE 9 and Firefox for security reasons.

Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Sean Paul

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I prevent Firefox from 
automaticallyupgrading


Heyya Sherrie:
To prevent Firefox from updating. Open firefox, on the tools menu find,
options, once you do  open it, you're presented with a list box, use your
up  down arrows until you find advanced, tab down once  find a page which
says general. Control tab until you find the update tab, once found, tab
once  find the 3 radiobutton choices which are, audomaticly check for 
install updates, check for updates but ask me what to do  do nothing, make
your choice  tab until you find the ok button. As far as how many versions
you can have  run on your system, I'm not the answerman for that perhaps
someone else can help you.
- Original Message - 
From: Sharon Gosling sillygoo...@gmail.com

To: jawslist jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 07:07
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How do I prevent Firefox from automatically upgrading


Since Firefox 19 constantly freezes using my Win 7 64 bit Dell laptop with 
Jaws 14 I reinstalled Firefox 15 which was the original version I had 
installed. I checked and it said Firefox 15. I went through all the 
options and could not find any that mentioned automatic upgrades.
But when I opened Firefox the next time it just said “Upgrading” and it 
went back to 19.  No choice offered at all.

So how do I make it stay at version 15?
I really need it for at least 6 websites that I frequently  use.
When Firefox freezes it won’t quit with any keystrokes including Alt 
control escape or alt control delete or alt F4 or anything else.

I have to restart the computer and that is a royal pain.
I was advised in a previous message that one could have several different 
versions of Firefox on the computerat the same time.
When I installed Firefox 15 after having Firefox 19 already on the 
computer it replaced the version 19.  I went to the control panel remove 
programs and checked the list to see which versions showed up and it only 
showed version 15 so I assumed it had replaced the version 19.

But the first time I tried using it after that it went back to 19.
Help, please.
Sherrie Gosling



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

[Sharon Gosling]

I would very much like the link to the Firefox 16.
As to the statement made that there is not much difference between 
accessibility with IE 9 and FF I have found many. Just the other day I tried 
to sign up for the free samples on doctoroz.com and there was no space to 
fill in any info with IE 9 but when I copied the link and opened it in FF 
the form fields were there and I was able to sign up.  Expressscripts.com is 
another that I could not sign in on IE 9. Also the FIOS website, the 
Lookout.com and I think certain pages of the Bank of America site.  Those 
are just the ones I remember having problems with recently using IE 9 that 
were accessible with FF..
Mostly I don't compare page by page unless I know ahead of time that there 
is something that is supposed to be there and isn't on IE 9.
I would think that Jaws should put more effort into making IE more 
accessible or at least fix this freezing problem with Firefox.
As for using version 3.5 of Firefox. it seems to me that that would really 
be a security risk rather like using IE 6 or 7.
I really would like to switch to Firefox for my default.  Maybe the version 
16 would work with Jaws 14.

Thanks,
Sherrie



-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf

Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

if anyone wishes to revert to ff 16 I do believe I have the installer file
here for it still.

I tend to keep them JIC

elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes.  Hit
ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the
applications/context key on it and choose end task.

Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives
more information on webpages where there is any difference at all.  I
have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox.  If you are
having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by
clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default.  You
can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it
though.  If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block
ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals
with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox.  I've used
firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly.  I have yet to try
the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did.



On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote:

I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a
default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email.
One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page
and then the youtube link yesterday.  There were others I remember from
Lookout Mobile Security.  Can't remember them all.
The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut
down Firefox.  The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox.
I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas.  I know there are
many avid Firefox users on this list.
I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19.
But where would I get 17.  And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In
old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they
would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally
have better security.

Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to
youtube and search for videos.  I click links from friends that take me
to interesting youtube videos.
If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more
accessible the page might be on Firefox.  Now, I only try Firefox when I
know there are form fields or other information I know should be there.
I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even
realize I am missing using IE 9.
If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws
or Firefox about it.
Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws.
Sherrie Gosling




-Original Message- From: Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers
and flash.  You could try the html5 version of youtube at
www.youtube.com/html5.  As far as the other freezes go, I've found that
the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update
automatically.  I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any
better, but I kinda hate to break what is working.



On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote:

I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that
websites that I

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

[Sharon Gosling]

I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a default 
since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email.  One I 
especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page and then 
the youtube link yesterday.  There were others I remember from Lookout 
Mobile Security.  Can't remember them all.
The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut down 
Firefox.  The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox.
I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas.  I know there are 
many avid Firefox users on this list.
I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19.  But 
where would I get 17.  And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In old 
emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they would 
have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally have better 
security.


Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to 
youtube and search for videos.  I click links from friends that take me to 
interesting youtube videos.
If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more accessible 
the page might be on Firefox.  Now, I only try Firefox when I know there are 
form fields or other information I know should be there.  I imagine there is 
a great deal more information that I don't even realize I am missing using 
IE 9.
If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws or 
Firefox about it.

Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws.
Sherrie Gosling




-Original Message- 
From: Chris Hill

Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers
and flash.  You could try the html5 version of youtube at
www.youtube.com/html5.  As far as the other freezes go, I've found that
the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update
automatically.  I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any
better, but I kinda hate to break what is working.



On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote:
I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that 
websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9 don’t 
even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for these sites. 
I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to make Firefox my 
default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes totally when it says it is 
being redirected to a different website. It says to press alt A or control 
A to proceed but this doesn’t work. It stops and only reads the title of 
the website. It will not close at all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going 
to file menu or using Jaws cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the 
window. I have to do a forced restart of the whole computer. I can’t even 
open a new tab of Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened 
when I clicked on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen 
Firefox window and then back it only reads the title of the page.

I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0.
I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it out 
of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don’t know what is showing on 
the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried the alt space 
and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws cursor does nothing 
either.

I would really appreciate some advice from the group.
IE 9 seems to do less and less for me and now comparing the same windows 
on IE and on Firefox it is really incredible that Firefox makes the 
websites so much more accessible. So I need Firefox!!

Help, please.
Sherrie Gosling
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[JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

[Sharon Gosling]

I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that websites 
that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9 don’t even show 
the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for these sites. I have been 
able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to make Firefox my default browser. 
But Firefox constantly freezes totally when it says it is being redirected to a 
different website. It says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this 
doesn’t work. It stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not 
close at all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws 
cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a forced 
restart of the whole computer. I can’t even open a new tab of Firefox to finish 
what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked on a youtube link. When I 
alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window and then back it only reads the 
title of the page. 
I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0.
I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it out of 
necessity and it constantly freezes. I don’t know what is showing on the screen 
but in the window list is says minimized. Tried the alt space and x to maximize 
the window but no response. Jaws cursor does nothing either.
I would really appreciate some advice from the group.
IE 9 seems to do less and less for me and now comparing the same windows on IE 
and on Firefox it is really incredible that Firefox makes the websites so much 
more accessible. So I need Firefox!!
Help, please.
Sherrie Gosling
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