Re: [JAWS-Users] DECAccess 32 and JAWS 12 - WAS: Re: Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Hi Doris I had never heard anything about JAWS 10 being the last release to support Dectalk Access 32. I run the Dectalk Access 32 version from Freedom Scientific. I originally got it shortly after it came out in JFW v2 or v3. I have successfully used it in all subsequent versions of JAWS including V11 and V12 under Windows 98, NT, 2000 and XP. I downloaded a new version of Dectalk Access 32 back in the late 90's from the Freedom Scientific download page at http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-previous-downloads.asp And installed it several years ago. Look for the link New Dectalk Access 32 on that page to find it. Although I tried it today and I got no response from left or right clicking the link. I mostly run it from the Startup group in the Start menu. Although recently I have been trying having it start automatically. In earlier versions of JAWS it seemed to me that JAWS was more responsive and less choppy by running it from the Startup group rather than as a service. But I really haven't noticed any difference between the two in the latest JAWS release. I recently purchased a Netbook on which I did not want an automatic logon to have JAWS after the Logon screen appears. So I checked the box in Basic/Options to have JAWS start automatically for the Logon Screen, which seems to take a long while after the logon screen appears. I then created a DOS batch file that will stop the currently running version of JAWS and start whatever version I specify. I have read that GW Micro has dropped support for it. So although I haven't seen anything about Freedom Scientific support, it wouldn't surprise me that it's not supported by them either. The last technical Support Bulletins I have seen on the Freedom Scientific support page about Dectalk Access 32 are for it making OpenBook 8 crash on startup just because it is installed, and it locking up JAWS under Windows Vista which mentions JAWS version 8. Mike -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 01:57 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] DECAccess 32 and JAWS 12 - WAS: Re: Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Hi, Which version of DEC Access 32 are you using with jaws 12? All I heard before was that DEC Access 32 doesn't work with anything newer than jaws 10. I researched that a while back and think I saw a message by someone saying that FS no longer supported DECAccess 32. I'd be very much intersted in hearing which version of DEC Access (i.e. the k1k or GW Micro or FS or whichever version) you are using and with what settings. Do you run DEC Access as a service or are you starting it via the startup group? Thanks much. Doris At 01:33 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote: Hi Margare Dectalk Access 32 works fine for me under Windows XP using JAWS 12 all levels including 1169. However, I don't think it can be used on Windows Vista or Windows 7 with JAWS at all. Mike -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 01:14 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Doris and All, I'm probably about as set as I'm going to be. JAWS 10 does not seem to want to run as a service on this machine and at least now seems to be coming up talking after system boot up. I tried copying the JAWS 10 icon on my desktop to my startup folder as a temporary solution as you suggested and thought it had been successful to at least have J 10 come up talking at some point. It wasn't doing it 100% of the time, though and somehow, my efforts without sighted assistance available apparently resulted in the OE menu bar being moved. I'd thought something was blocking My Desktop and had planned on calling my tech for a remote session anyway, but the new OE problem made that essential. He didn't find anything blocking My Desktop, but I did see something one time, but wasn't able to determine what it was. I vastly prefer DEC-Talk Access 32 to Eloquence and another tech at his shop has seen the screen I think is causing the problem and he thought it had something to do with DEC-Talk Access 32, but hadn't heard of it and wasn't sure. The remote session with my tech got J10 talking after boot up and I had to wait until this morning to call FS about the activation problem with J9 because of threatened severe thunder storms. The FS support guy thought the activation problem was weird, so seemed to agree with all of us here about that. He thought uninstalling JAWS 9 probably wouldn't cause J10 to decide it wanted to be activated since it would then be the earliest version. He tried to encourage me to uninstall JAWS 9 and 10. I didn't have any problem uninstalling J9 as long as it didn't create more
Re: [JAWS-Users] DECAccess 32 and JAWS 12 - WAS: Re: Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
i think the only reason it works for you is because you got it from fs. those of us who got it from third party dealers will see that third party support isn't included in jaws since jaws 10 original release. On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote: Hi Doris I had never heard anything about JAWS 10 being the last release to support Dectalk Access 32. I run the Dectalk Access 32 version from Freedom Scientific. I originally got it shortly after it came out in JFW v2 or v3. I have successfully used it in all subsequent versions of JAWS including V11 and V12 under Windows 98, NT, 2000 and XP. I downloaded a new version of Dectalk Access 32 back in the late 90's from the Freedom Scientific download page at http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-previous-downloads.asp And installed it several years ago. Look for the link New Dectalk Access 32 on that page to find it. Although I tried it today and I got no response from left or right clicking the link. I mostly run it from the Startup group in the Start menu. Although recently I have been trying having it start automatically. In earlier versions of JAWS it seemed to me that JAWS was more responsive and less choppy by running it from the Startup group rather than as a service. But I really haven't noticed any difference between the two in the latest JAWS release. I recently purchased a Netbook on which I did not want an automatic logon to have JAWS after the Logon screen appears. So I checked the box in Basic/Options to have JAWS start automatically for the Logon Screen, which seems to take a long while after the logon screen appears. I then created a DOS batch file that will stop the currently running version of JAWS and start whatever version I specify. I have read that GW Micro has dropped support for it. So although I haven't seen anything about Freedom Scientific support, it wouldn't surprise me that it's not supported by them either. The last technical Support Bulletins I have seen on the Freedom Scientific support page about Dectalk Access 32 are for it making OpenBook 8 crash on startup just because it is installed, and it locking up JAWS under Windows Vista which mentions JAWS version 8. Mike -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 01:57 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] DECAccess 32 and JAWS 12 - WAS: Re: Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Hi, Which version of DEC Access 32 are you using with jaws 12? All I heard before was that DEC Access 32 doesn't work with anything newer than jaws 10. I researched that a while back and think I saw a message by someone saying that FS no longer supported DECAccess 32. I'd be very much intersted in hearing which version of DEC Access (i.e. the k1k or GW Micro or FS or whichever version) you are using and with what settings. Do you run DEC Access as a service or are you starting it via the startup group? Thanks much. Doris At 01:33 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote: Hi Margare Dectalk Access 32 works fine for me under Windows XP using JAWS 12 all levels including 1169. However, I don't think it can be used on Windows Vista or Windows 7 with JAWS at all. Mike -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 01:14 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Doris and All, I'm probably about as set as I'm going to be. JAWS 10 does not seem to want to run as a service on this machine and at least now seems to be coming up talking after system boot up. I tried copying the JAWS 10 icon on my desktop to my startup folder as a temporary solution as you suggested and thought it had been successful to at least have J 10 come up talking at some point. It wasn't doing it 100% of the time, though and somehow, my efforts without sighted assistance available apparently resulted in the OE menu bar being moved. I'd thought something was blocking My Desktop and had planned on calling my tech for a remote session anyway, but the new OE problem made that essential. He didn't find anything blocking My Desktop, but I did see something one time, but wasn't able to determine what it was. I vastly prefer DEC-Talk Access 32 to Eloquence and another tech at his shop has seen the screen I think is causing the problem and he thought it had something to do with DEC-Talk Access 32, but hadn't heard of it and wasn't sure. The remote session with my tech got J10 talking after boot up and I had to wait until this morning to call FS about the activation problem with J9 because of threatened severe thunder storms. The FS support guy thought
Re: [JAWS-Users] DECAccess 32 and JAWS 12 - WAS: Re: Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Hi In order to be able to use the FS version of Dectalk Access32, they had to update the JAWS authorization to add this feature, the same as if adding the Remote access feature. If your JAWS authorization has such an update, you should be able to run the FS version of Dectalk Access 32. If it doesn't, your explanation. Makes sense. To see if your authorization has this feature, from the JAWSx/Tools menu in All Programs, run Ilm Authorization Viewer. At the bottom of this listing is a section that starts with the line Options. Under that line would be a line saying Dectalk Access32. Mike -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 08:51 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DECAccess 32 and JAWS 12 - WAS: Re: Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up i think the only reason it works for you is because you got it from fs. those of us who got it from third party dealers will see that third party support isn't included in jaws since jaws 10 original release. On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote: Hi Doris I had never heard anything about JAWS 10 being the last release to support Dectalk Access 32. I run the Dectalk Access 32 version from Freedom Scientific. I originally got it shortly after it came out in JFW v2 or v3. I have successfully used it in all subsequent versions of JAWS including V11 and V12 under Windows 98, NT, 2000 and XP. I downloaded a new version of Dectalk Access 32 back in the late 90's from the Freedom Scientific download page at http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-previous-download s.asp And installed it several years ago. Look for the link New Dectalk Access 32 on that page to find it. Although I tried it today and I got no response from left or right clicking the link. I mostly run it from the Startup group in the Start menu. Although recently I have been trying having it start automatically. In earlier versions of JAWS it seemed to me that JAWS was more responsive and less choppy by running it from the Startup group rather than as a service. But I really haven't noticed any difference between the two in the latest JAWS release. I recently purchased a Netbook on which I did not want an automatic logon to have JAWS after the Logon screen appears. So I checked the box in Basic/Options to have JAWS start automatically for the Logon Screen, which seems to take a long while after the logon screen appears. I then created a DOS batch file that will stop the currently running version of JAWS and start whatever version I specify. I have read that GW Micro has dropped support for it. So although I haven't seen anything about Freedom Scientific support, it wouldn't surprise me that it's not supported by them either. The last technical Support Bulletins I have seen on the Freedom Scientific support page about Dectalk Access 32 are for it making OpenBook 8 crash on startup just because it is installed, and it locking up JAWS under Windows Vista which mentions JAWS version 8. Mike -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 01:57 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] DECAccess 32 and JAWS 12 - WAS: Re: Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Hi, Which version of DEC Access 32 are you using with jaws 12? All I heard before was that DEC Access 32 doesn't work with anything newer than jaws 10. I researched that a while back and think I saw a message by someone saying that FS no longer supported DECAccess 32. I'd be very much intersted in hearing which version of DEC Access (i.e. the k1k or GW Micro or FS or whichever version) you are using and with what settings. Do you run DEC Access as a service or are you starting it via the startup group? Thanks much. Doris At 01:33 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote: Hi Margare Dectalk Access 32 works fine for me under Windows XP using JAWS 12 all levels including 1169. However, I don't think it can be used on Windows Vista or Windows 7 with JAWS at all. Mike -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 01:14 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Doris and All, I'm probably about as set as I'm going to be. JAWS 10 does not seem to want to run as a service on this machine and at least now seems to be coming up talking after system boot up. I tried copying the JAWS 10 icon on my desktop to my startup folder as a temporary solution as you suggested and thought it had been successful to at least have J 10
