Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015
Thanks, I know jaws for word-processing, e-mail and internet, as well as file management tasks but I could never teach PowerPoint or Excel, these programs I use only when I have no choice and getting either of them to work outside of filling in a worksheet already prepared or reading a slide are over my head for the most part. I have three other screen readers on this computer, one I don't know well, its command structure is considerably different than JAWS and I have not taken much time to learn it, although I did solve a problem for someone using that one once. One reason I have not considered teaching is that I have no certifications or degrees and I don't do well if I have to keep repeating the same thing over more than two times. I normally can read something once, maybe twice depending on what I am doing while reading and do it at least I could until recent months. Not sure I have the patience to teach or explain it differently if my way does not work for someone else. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015 I enjoyed reading your post where you told us how you use to work and the problems you had to overcome in your job. Now after being retired, you have nothing to do. May I suggest, that you try to start a support group for people living with sight loss. Many people who have lost their sight feel loss and are full of fear, thinking that their life is over. That's not true there is much that they can learn to do. They just have to find someone to lean on. That could be your support group. It is obvious that you have many life skills and you have much experience with being blind while still beaing able to hold a job by using the computer with jaws. You have much to offer and you may help many people by teaching them life skills and the use of jaws. There is no telling whose life you may change. . That is what I did after losing my sight just five years ago. I started a support group for people who have lost their sight or had been blind for all or most of their lives. It gives me something to do because the group means a lot to me. Now after four years, we still are the only support group of it's kind in all of Dallas Texas. Just a thought. LeDon. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015 Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my job. Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do so last year at this time. Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, Vista, XP, 98. I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP until the computer I was using stopped working in fact. However, I was more than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed in February 2010. I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait at least until September or October to switch. Will see if my cousin can come help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering. Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 10, but6 progress is the name of the game. No squealing for joy over this change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if at a snail's pace. \ On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't trust Microsoft to do so. I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet. I am not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws have I turned in a complaint or bug report. Still, for the most part I like the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I have done the most. Only wish that more medical transcription platforms
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015
I enjoyed reading your post where you told us how you use to work and the problems you had to overcome in your job. Now after being retired, you have nothing to do. May I suggest, that you try to start a support group for people living with sight loss. Many people who have lost their sight feel loss and are full of fear, thinking that their life is over. That's not true there is much that they can learn to do. They just have to find someone to lean on. That could be your support group. It is obvious that you have many life skills and you have much experience with being blind while still beaing able to hold a job by using the computer with jaws. You have much to offer and you may help many people by teaching them life skills and the use of jaws. There is no telling whose life you may change. . That is what I did after losing my sight just five years ago. I started a support group for people who have lost their sight or had been blind for all or most of their lives. It gives me something to do because the group means a lot to me. Now after four years, we still are the only support group of it's kind in all of Dallas Texas. Just a thought. LeDon. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015 Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my job. Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do so last year at this time. Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, Vista, XP, 98. I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP until the computer I was using stopped working in fact. However, I was more than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed in February 2010. I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait at least until September or October to switch. Will see if my cousin can come help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering. Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 10, but6 progress is the name of the game. No squealing for joy over this change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if at a snail's pace. \ On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't trust Microsoft to do so. I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet. I am not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws have I turned in a complaint or bug report. Still, for the most part I like the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I have done the most. Only wish that more medical transcription platforms did everything they should do with Jaws, but that is not necessarily the fault of JAWS programmers but the programmers who create the platforms. I was employed 39 years at one job, managed with Optacon, ASAP, JAWS during that time with minor difficulties that my former job understood but was outsourced in March. I might still be employed had I been able to access every item needed in eScription 11 for example but instead I stressed out, became very ill with more than stress as an issue and lost the job after six weeks. Again, not Jaws fault, not completely my fault but more the programmers and supervisors who could not understand the issues I was facing with boxes that would not open so I could provide the correct information, some of which were not even visible to JAWS. Since this is not a commonly used program by thousands but only used by probable less than 10 persons, I did not expect FS to assist me. Instead, I decided to retire a couple of years earlier than I had initially planned, now am bored to death after only eight weeks and wish I could help somewhere from home, can't move at the moment. Feeling mostly useless which is probably why I am writing long messages, LOL. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015
Please somebody tell me why I try so hard to keep things on topic. It is proving to be a waste of my time and bandwidth. Which turns in to a monetary cost as well. I keep wondering when I check my email in the morning if the list will even have a single message out of 50 that is remotely near the fringes of being on topic. Oh well guess I'll just keep on wishing, maybe I'll pick up a lottery ticket today, yes that's the way to go. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 12:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015 I enjoyed reading your post where you told us how you use to work and the problems you had to overcome in your job. Now after being retired, you have nothing to do. May I suggest, that you try to start a support group for people living with sight loss. Many people who have lost their sight feel loss and are full of fear, thinking that their life is over. That's not true there is much that they can learn to do. They just have to find someone to lean on. That could be your support group. It is obvious that you have many life skills and you have much experience with being blind while still beaing able to hold a job by using the computer with jaws. You have much to offer and you may help many people by teaching them life skills and the use of jaws. There is no telling whose life you may change. . That is what I did after losing my sight just five years ago. I started a support group for people who have lost their sight or had been blind for all or most of their lives. It gives me something to do because the group means a lot to me. Now after four years, we still are the only support group of it's kind in all of Dallas Texas. Just a thought. LeDon. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015 Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my job. Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do so last year at this time. Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, Vista, XP, 98. I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP until the computer I was using stopped working in fact. However, I was more than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed in February 2010. I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait at least until September or October to switch. Will see if my cousin can come help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering. Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 10, but6 progress is the name of the game. No squealing for joy over this change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if at a snail's pace. \ On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't trust Microsoft to do so. I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet. I am not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws have I turned in a complaint or bug report. Still, for the most part I like the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I have done the most. Only wish that more medical transcription platforms did everything they should do with Jaws, but that is not necessarily the fault of JAWS programmers but the programmers who create the platforms. I was employed 39 years at one job, managed with Optacon, ASAP, JAWS during that time with minor difficulties that my former job understood but was outsourced in March. I might still be employed had I been able to access every item needed in eScription 11 for example but instead I stressed out, became very ill with more than stress as an issue and lost the job after six weeks. Again,
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015
Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my job. Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do so last year at this time. Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, Vista, XP, 98. I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP until the computer I was using stopped working in fact. However, I was more than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed in February 2010. I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait at least until September or October to switch. Will see if my cousin can come help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering. Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 10, but6 progress is the name of the game. No squealing for joy over this change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if at a snail's pace. \ On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't trust Microsoft to do so. I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet. I am not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws have I turned in a complaint or bug report. Still, for the most part I like the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I have done the most. Only wish that more medical transcription platforms did everything they should do with Jaws, but that is not necessarily the fault of JAWS programmers but the programmers who create the platforms. I was employed 39 years at one job, managed with Optacon, ASAP, JAWS during that time with minor difficulties that my former job understood but was outsourced in March. I might still be employed had I been able to access every item needed in eScription 11 for example but instead I stressed out, became very ill with more than stress as an issue and lost the job after six weeks. Again, not Jaws fault, not completely my fault but more the programmers and supervisors who could not understand the issues I was facing with boxes that would not open so I could provide the correct information, some of which were not even visible to JAWS. Since this is not a commonly used program by thousands but only used by probable less than 10 persons, I did not expect FS to assist me. Instead, I decided to retire a couple of years earlier than I had initially planned, now am bored to death after only eight weeks and wish I could help somewhere from home, can't move at the moment. Feeling mostly useless which is probably why I am writing long messages, LOL. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean thingsstopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015 Same here. Thanks for reminding about IE - need to make note of that one. Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo hfia...@rcn.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean thingsstopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015 Check podcast by FS on jaws 16 and window 10. There comments about 10 is very interesting. Also the suggestion regarding making IE the default program. Also how you will need to uninstall old version of jaws before installing 10. Anyone who will get 10, must listen to the podcast. I did and will follow their suggestion. -Original Message- From: TheHangMan Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015 Hi trish, Thank you for this mail. I'm going 10 Pro on my 2 laptops and say, 'later to 7.' Got to stay running with the horses, I notice you're up there in the pack. Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
