Re: [JAWS-Users] resources for your child-Re: Most commonly used programs
hi, being a writer myself (or at least trying to be one) I found your questions interesting, I have run across a few applications that were said to assist in writing, but so far none of them have worked well with jaws, the one in the kit you were referred to earlier might work, and I have one here I still need to try, and will let you know if it works. for those of you scratching your heads and wondering what were talking about software was developed that was similar to the early programming flow chart templates for, as quoted on line: Mindmapping is the process of drawing up diagrams that show relations between various ideas, tasks or information. it also is used to develop characters, plot lines, and to layout and keep the book organized for easy assemble into a manuscript or synopsis. I myself have found no accessible mindmapping software but I would think something could be adapted or made up that could handle this aspect of writing, html is the answer I found for myself since it allows me to branch and side note at will without crippling the main flow ability of the document. and so far I have been able to use HJ pad and/or Jarte for my main page writing while notepad and/or note tab html editor are my main mapping tools. if I find a writers assistant that will actually work well I'll definitely let you know about it for your son! take care, inthane . Author: The Scilore Dimension, book 1; Dragons Pyire a fan fiction Palladium(C) based RPG -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ruchi Patil Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] resources for your child-Re: Most commonly usedprograms Thanks John for your very valuable inputs. We are using a lot of Assistive technology, almost all that is available for the blind. We use products from aph and Marvelsoft and hentermath. We use devices from humanware, Plextalk. We also use daisy books from bookshare and audible books from audible on these devices. He plays a lot of interactive fiction and jim kitchens and VIP game zone games. Also, will check the jaws interface for software that are compatible with jaws. But I also notice that scripts get written to make more and more products available to the blind- are there any ready reckoner guides for the same. I live in India, and Assistive technology experts are not too many here. There are a few but with not all the tools. In fact, since my son is not using Braille yet, the challenge becomes a little bigger. Most other kids here use Braille instructional materials. I had been looking for word prediction software for him, but found none. In fact, the local language support here is too weak. I also tried to look for creative writing tools and mind mapping tools but nothing is available. Would you know of any resources. I will be only too overjoyed to find some online training resources. Since I am from the engineering background, I will be able to take it up myself and be in a better position to serve my son. If you could guide me onto that, it would be great. Once again, thanks for taking time off to reply in such detail. Sent from my iPhone On 07-Aug-2012, at 8:39 PM, John R. Vaughn jrvaugh...@comcast.net wrote: Ruchi , The jaws help system lists programs that work with Jaws as well as tips on using the program. Go into the jaws interface (insert key plus letter j). The press alt key plus h for help and explore the various training materials in this menu. In addition, I would talk to your child's vision teacher and see if that person has assistive technology resources that you can meet with as needed. Also, your state may have a state department that deals with instructional materials for children with a disability. And finally, there are qualified blind teachers/trainers out there that offer on line training that you can talk to the vision teacher/special education director about and try and get the school system to fund such training. No doubt sighted kids are being trained how to use various programs, and if the school does not have the resource to teach your child, then ask why the school cannot provide your child with the needed resources. The law requires the school system to provide your child with the needed resources. John - Original Message - From: Ruchi Patil ruchi_pa...@samruddha.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Most commonly used programs Hi, what are the programs, most commonly used by the blind, that are completely accessible with jaws? My 9 year old son uses ms word and PowerPoint at school along with the other programs made specifically for the blind. But they have computer training at school till grade 8, and I am not sure how many of those he may be able to use? Next semester they have publisher, then coreldraw. If
Re: [JAWS-Users] resources for your child-Re: Most commonly used programs
Thanks Inthane... Will be very happy to receive inputs from you, on this... But yesterday, when I was trying to use smart art in word and in particular draw a hierarchy diagram, I realized it was a mind map of some sort. Creation of bubbles at different levels was possible with keyboard alone and therefore completely accessible to the blind. However, when I went to read this diagram, jaws simply read it as graphic of size xyz. I wish there was a way that jaws would read these diagrams as figure 1, 2 or 3, similar to tables. And then when we go to a particular diagram, it should read it correctly as in, hierarchy diagram 1 - level 0 history , level 1 - Egypt, level 2 - dates, level 2 - events, level 2 - places, level 1 - Greece, and so on and so forth. We should also have commands to move between levels, and when at a level, read all nodes attached to it, the higher level and the lower levels. Do you think this should be possible with scripts, since during creation, all data is available...I don't understand scripts, I want to take up a tutorial and learn, in the meanwhile, I will be happy to hear from you. Sent from my iPhone On 08-Aug-2012, at 3:32 PM, inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com wrote: hi, being a writer myself (or at least trying to be one) I found your questions interesting, I have run across a few applications that were said to assist in writing, but so far none of them have worked well with jaws, the one in the kit you were referred to earlier might work, and I have one here I still need to try, and will let you know if it works. for those of you scratching your heads and wondering what were talking about software was developed that was similar to the early programming flow chart templates for, as quoted on line: Mindmapping is the process of drawing up diagrams that show relations between various ideas, tasks or information. it also is used to develop characters, plot lines, and to layout and keep the book organized for easy assemble into a manuscript or synopsis. I myself have found no accessible mindmapping software but I would think something could be adapted or made up that could handle this aspect of writing, html is the answer I found for myself since it allows me to branch and side note at will without crippling the main flow ability of the document. and so far I have been able to use HJ pad and/or Jarte for my main page writing while notepad and/or note tab html editor are my main mapping tools. if I find a writers assistant that will actually work well I'll definitely let you know about it for your son! take care, inthane .. Author: The Scilore Dimension, book 1; Dragons Pyire a fan fiction Palladium(C) based RPG -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ruchi Patil Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] resources for your child-Re: Most commonly used programs
Ruchi , The jaws help system lists programs that work with Jaws as well as tips on using the program. Go into the jaws interface (insert key plus letter j). The press alt key plus h for help and explore the various training materials in this menu. In addition, I would talk to your child's vision teacher and see if that person has assistive technology resources that you can meet with as needed. Also, your state may have a state department that deals with instructional materials for children with a disability. And finally, there are qualified blind teachers/trainers out there that offer on line training that you can talk to the vision teacher/special education director about and try and get the school system to fund such training. No doubt sighted kids are being trained how to use various programs, and if the school does not have the resource to teach your child, then ask why the school cannot provide your child with the needed resources. The law requires the school system to provide your child with the needed resources. John - Original Message - From: Ruchi Patil ruchi_pa...@samruddha.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Most commonly used programs Hi, what are the programs, most commonly used by the blind, that are completely accessible with jaws? My 9 year old son uses ms word and PowerPoint at school along with the other programs made specifically for the blind. But they have computer training at school till grade 8, and I am not sure how many of those he may be able to use? Next semester they have publisher, then coreldraw. If there are other accessible programs, I could work out with the school to train him for those instead- anything in music editing for example. Please throw light on this. Regards, Ruchi Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] resources for your child-Re: Most commonly used programs
Thanks John for your very valuable inputs. We are using a lot of Assistive technology, almost all that is available for the blind. We use products from aph and Marvelsoft and hentermath. We use devices from humanware, Plextalk. We also use daisy books from bookshare and audible books from audible on these devices. He plays a lot of interactive fiction and jim kitchens and VIP game zone games. Also, will check the jaws interface for software that are compatible with jaws. But I also notice that scripts get written to make more and more products available to the blind- are there any ready reckoner guides for the same. I live in India, and Assistive technology experts are not too many here. There are a few but with not all the tools. In fact, since my son is not using Braille yet, the challenge becomes a little bigger. Most other kids here use Braille instructional materials. I had been looking for word prediction software for him, but found none. In fact, the local language support here is too weak. I also tried to look for creative writing tools and mind mapping tools but nothing is available. Would you know of any resources. I will be only too overjoyed to find some online training resources. Since I am from the engineering background, I will be able to take it up myself and be in a better position to serve my son. If you could guide me onto that, it would be great. Once again, thanks for taking time off to reply in such detail. Sent from my iPhone On 07-Aug-2012, at 8:39 PM, John R. Vaughn jrvaugh...@comcast.net wrote: Ruchi , The jaws help system lists programs that work with Jaws as well as tips on using the program. Go into the jaws interface (insert key plus letter j). The press alt key plus h for help and explore the various training materials in this menu. In addition, I would talk to your child's vision teacher and see if that person has assistive technology resources that you can meet with as needed. Also, your state may have a state department that deals with instructional materials for children with a disability. And finally, there are qualified blind teachers/trainers out there that offer on line training that you can talk to the vision teacher/special education director about and try and get the school system to fund such training. No doubt sighted kids are being trained how to use various programs, and if the school does not have the resource to teach your child, then ask why the school cannot provide your child with the needed resources. The law requires the school system to provide your child with the needed resources. John - Original Message - From: Ruchi Patil ruchi_pa...@samruddha.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Most commonly used programs Hi, what are the programs, most commonly used by the blind, that are completely accessible with jaws? My 9 year old son uses ms word and PowerPoint at school along with the other programs made specifically for the blind. But they have computer training at school till grade 8, and I am not sure how many of those he may be able to use? Next semester they have publisher, then coreldraw. If there are other accessible programs, I could work out with the school to train him for those instead- anything in music editing for example. Please throw light on this. Regards, Ruchi Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
