Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10 anniversary update bugs

2016-08-11 Thread Mike B.
ard shortcut.
This can happen if the Dropbox icon gets shifted to the right somehow in the 
tray. To fix, go to the SpeakDropbox menu on the tray and click or press 
space
or enter on it to bring up the menu then choose "exit". Then restart 
SpeakDropbox by activating the shortcut in the start menu (by default 
programGroup/valiant8086/SpeakDropbox/Launch
SpeakDropbox). don't forget in windows Vista and up you can just type 
something like speakd into the start menu search box of the start menu or 
screen
and launch SpeakDropbox should be one of the search results. This is the 
best solution on windows 8 and 8.1. As of SpeakDropbox version 4 this 
probably
won't ever happen.
list end nesting level 1
For other problems, try restarting SpeakDropbox and, if that doesn't work, 
restart Dropbox itself too. If still no luck, restart the whole computer 
and,
if that fails, let me know what's going on and to the best of your ability 
throw in what caused or lead up to the problem for good measure please.

Disclaimer
SpeakDropbox nor the developer (me) are in any way affiliated with Dropbox. 
The developer uses Dropbox heavily and created SpeakDropbox mainly for 
himself
to gain a little nicer access to some of the nifty features of the Dropbox 
client application on Windows OS.

contacting me
If you have an issue with SpeakDropbox or a suggestion or any other comment, 
my email is
valiant8...@gmail.com.
I can't really offer support for Dropbox itself, so you may get no response 
to questions about how to share folders with others and general dropboxy 
things
like that.
list end

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Justin Williams
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10 
anniversary update bugs


What is the difference between dropbox and speak dropbox?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Morris
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

Hi Aaron and all,


I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
issues especially since the program is free.

Keep up the great work!


On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
> After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
> speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before
> that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed
> the respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've
> stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is
> in version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this
> release ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on
> windows 10 versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I
> finally changed the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own
> menu to
> shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where
> shift+alt+win+alt+win+m
> just doesn't work at all.
>
>
> If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox
> is if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the
> speakDropbox downloads page is
>
> http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/
>
> the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.
>
>
> Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while
> trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to
> update itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.
>
>
>
> Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend
> to try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and
> rename it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This
> would of course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not
> configured to support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so
> let's not be concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu
> consumption if you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently
> does. Any suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further
> requests for tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as
> it doesn't actually display any useful status.
>
>
> Just to be safe, I&

Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10 anniversary update bugs

2016-08-11 Thread valiant8086
n I press alt+win+m
Try pressing windows+m to go to the desktop first, and then issuing the
keystroke to open the menu you want. I seem to have better luck if I do this
when
I'm sitting on the desktop.

4. It keeps reading the wrong icon, either automatically or when pressing
the keyboard shortcut.
This can happen if the Dropbox icon gets shifted to the right somehow in the
tray. To fix, go to the SpeakDropbox menu on the tray and click or press
space
or enter on it to bring up the menu then choose "exit". Then restart
SpeakDropbox by activating the shortcut in the start menu (by default
programGroup/valiant8086/SpeakDropbox/Launch
SpeakDropbox). don't forget in windows Vista and up you can just type
something like speakd into the start menu search box of the start menu or
screen
and launch SpeakDropbox should be one of the search results. This is the
best solution on windows 8 and 8.1. As of SpeakDropbox version 4 this
probably
won't ever happen.
list end nesting level 1
For other problems, try restarting SpeakDropbox and, if that doesn't work,
restart Dropbox itself too. If still no luck, restart the whole computer
and,
if that fails, let me know what's going on and to the best of your ability
throw in what caused or lead up to the problem for good measure please.

Disclaimer
SpeakDropbox nor the developer (me) are in any way affiliated with Dropbox.
The developer uses Dropbox heavily and created SpeakDropbox mainly for
himself
to gain a little nicer access to some of the nifty features of the Dropbox
client application on Windows OS.

contacting me
If you have an issue with SpeakDropbox or a suggestion or any other comment,
my email is
valiant8...@gmail.com.
I can't really offer support for Dropbox itself, so you may get no response
to questions about how to share folders with others and general dropboxy
things
like that.
list end

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Justin Williams
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10
anniversary update bugs


What is the difference between dropbox and speak dropbox?
  Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Morris
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

Hi Aaron and all,


I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
issues especially since the program is free.

Keep up the great work!


On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.


After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before
that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed
the respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've
stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is
in version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this
release ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on
windows 10 versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I
finally changed the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own
menu to
shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where
shift+alt+win+alt+win+m
just doesn't work at all.


If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox
is if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the
speakDropbox downloads page is

http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/

the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.


Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while
trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to
update itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.



Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend
to try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and
rename it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This
would of course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not
configured to support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so
let's not be concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu
consumption if you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently
does. Any suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further
requests for tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as
it doesn't actually display any useful status.


Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I
am definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I
don't get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.


Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10 anniversary update bugs

2016-08-12 Thread Justin Williams
Thanks Mike.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10
anniversary update bugs

Hi Justin,

Hope the following explains it well enough:
Welcome!
Welcome and thanks for trying out SpeakDropbox. For other applications that
I've written see my web site at http://valiant8086.com

What is this thing anyway?
SpeakDropbox is a lightweight application that runs on the system tray and
looks for a Dropbox  icon in said tray. If found, it watches the tool tip
text for that icon and can automatically read it out loud or play sounds
when there is a change to said tool tip text. As a result, SpeakDropbox is
able to announce out loud or produce alert noises when the Dropbox app is up
to something like downloading a file, uploading a file, indexing,
connecting, downloading file list, etc. 
Additionally, it allows for manual checking of said tool tip from anywhere
with a configurable keystroke (especially useful when using sounds only and
wanting to find out what Dropbox is up to when you hear one of the sounds),
and a double press provides an easy way to open the Dropbox menu from
anywhere without the need of using "system tray listing" functionality in
your screen reader or simulating a click on the Dropbox tray icon.
SpeakDropbox will probably be most useful for people who are blind or
visually impaired and using a Screen Reader like NVDA (Non Visual Desktop
Access), as it uses the Screen Reader to provide the speech output. however,
it will speak via the Microsoft Speech API 5 or later using the computer's
built in voice if there is no Screen Reader that it supports present. In
other words, if you're not blind, or visually impaired, or if you have a
screen reader that SpeakDropbox does not support, you may still have use for
this application.

Requirements
list of 3 items
. Same as Dropbox for windows itself
. Dropbox, of course
click here to visit their web site
. if using with screen reader, SpeakDropbox supports the following list of 4
items nesting level 1 1. JAWS, not sure how far back, 10 at least 2.
Window-Eyes, no clue how far back, I'm guessing earlier than 7.0 3. System
Access, to my knowledge it's not really possible to be running an old system
access so how far back is not applicable 4. Dolphin Supernova and Hal, no
clue what version, most likely it'll work though is my guess list end
nesting level 1 The reason I'm not totally sure about how far back these go
is I didn't write the code I use to access the screen readers and the
documentation for that doesn't tell me. If you're using something ancient
and you wonder, try it and see if it works.

Installation
Run the installer. It will want administrator privileges, so if you have
user account control turned on, the UAC prompt will come up. Follow the
installation wizard to choose where to install it and where to put the start
menu shortcuts and whether you want SpeakDropbox to start automatically each
time your computer is started. the installer will give you a chance to check
all the settings made. If all is well, hit install. Installation should take
about
10
seconds. On the last page there is the opportunity to choose whether to
start SpeakDropbox immediately, view documentation and view the change log
to see what's new.

how it works
SpeakDropbox will hang out in your system tray and look for a Dropbox icon. 
if it can find one, it will watch for that icon to change it's tool tip. 
When
SpeakDropbox detects a change to the Dropbox icon, it will automatically
read out what the tool tip now says, after stripping some of the information
away so as not to be rattling on about transfer rates and the like as that
every time the speed changes which, for most people, is pretty much
continuously.
It can also play a non obtrusive sound to alert you when something is
happening, either in addition to or alternatively to the spoken output. 
These can
both be disabled in the tray menu, enabling for use of SpeakDropbox to have
quick read outs of the Dropbox icon only when desired, by pressing the
keyboard shortcut, and having the ability to open the Dropbox menu and
Dropbox folder but not having to put up with continuous Dropbox status
updates. If it can't find a Dropbox tray icon, it will announce "No Dropbox
Icon found". It should be able to pick up the icon automatically if you
start Dropbox after already having SpeakDropbox running. Also it should be
able to pick it up again if you have to exit and restart Dropbox and you
leave SpeakDropbox running. You can click or press space or enter on the
SpeakDropbox icon in the tray to bring up a menu of options that will allow
you to make SpeakDropbox:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
. test the speech out