Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: windows 10 redstone

[zoe fiogkos]

Hi guys, when this anniversary update comes out will we have a choice to
update? Will it be automatic like all the other updates up until now?  If
it's a must and automatic update and it doesn't work properly with jaws or
nvda what are we as the blind community to do?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: June 15, 2016 1:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 redstone

Hi,
Redstone (specifically, Redstone 1 (RS1)) is indeed the codename for Windows
10 Anniversary Update (also known as Version 1607). It includes an improved
Narrator, Cortana improvements, Edge extensions among other things. As far
as accessibility is concerned, it includes a bit more responsive UI
Automation.

See this post from Win10 group:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/thread/anniversary_update_updates/1997384?p=
,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,anniversary+update,20,2,0,1997384

An item of note is Edge and UAC (User Account Control) dialog changes:
Microsoft has changed certain technical information about Edge that'll take
a while for Freedom Scientific (now part of VFO) to implement, and UAC is
now powered by the same platform that powers universal apps.

JAWS compatibility: I recommend waiting until at least 18 beta comes out
this fall. Although Insiders who uses JFW report it is working to some
extent, crashes were observed with Anniversary update preview builds for
some, and upcoming JFW 18 would have resolved them by now (unfortunately,
toasts are not announced in Windows 10 despite the fact that help balloon
notification is checked under verbosity settings for each level). As far as
universal apps are concerned, it's a mixed bag of accessibility, and use of
touch cursor is a must.
//JL

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 redstone

I'm guessing that'll be the anniversary update that is supposed to come out
in July.


Shane


On 6/15/2016 11:03 AM, Roger Levine wrote:
> Hello,
> What is RedStone Windows 10?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 6:32 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 redstone
>
> hi
>
> when redstone windows 10 comes out will jaws 17 work with it?
>
>
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: windows 10 boot straight to desktop

[Kevin]

that was me, if you'd like the info again request to me off the list as to 
not clutter up the jaws list!



-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 1:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Hi,
Warning, going into the control panel or any other settings to turn off
using a password will only work if you put the computer to sleep. People are
always saying this will turn off the need to put in a pass word for good. If
you put the computer to sleep, this will allow you to wake up the computer
without putting in a password. How ever, if you shut the computer down, you
will still have to put in a password when you restart your computer. The
only way that you can make your computer go right to the desktop after
shutting it down, is to type in a phrase into the run dialog. I saw this on
the list yesterday, but I was not interested, because I want a password when
I restart the computer. I do have that checked to not require a password
when waking the computer up. Try to find the message from yesterday where
someone gave the instructions to type something into the run dialog to turn
off needing a password for good. Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Cher Bosch

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: windows 10 boot straight to desktop

I don't see that on the navigation tab either.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

hello;
if you want your windows 10 to load directly on to the desktop,

you need to go into, ctrl panel,
taskbar properties,
now, go to navigation,
now tab until you hear;
“When I sign in, go to the Desktop instead of the Start Screen”
this box needs to be checked.
note, you can type control into the search edit field instead of going to
control panel.

-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

No password box for me, when I boot this lil guy.

First thing I see is the start menue and I'm in the edit box to search.
The navigation tab in the properties is where I made that change but can't
remember if it were for 8.1, 8, or windows 7. Lol.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Hi,
Actually goes to the password edit box first if you have one, Then, the
desktop, If, you tab a couple times you should run into the recycle bin.

The answer is yes, I have not heard of the other stuff you posted, It's been
straight to the desktop from day one. Maybe you mean windows +I for
settings? Jorge






-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Does this still exist in windows 10. It used to be I think navigation pane
in the taskbar properties.

Mine lands on the start menu.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10!

[Rose Combs]

I know, using Outlook 2010 right now, other than my iPhone, it is the only
e-mail client I use, used it at work for some 15 years, will always have a
copy even if I upgrade eventually.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10!

Rose, even Outlook 2007 works fine with Win10- so you will still be able to
use Outlook2010.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 5:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I use Outlook 2010, and if necessary will upgrade office later.  Never a fan
of WLM.  If you are attaching files they are not making it.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
I  have to put the tutorial for WLM in my Drop Box folder, and wait for it
to upload to my account. I will send you a Drop Box link, but you do not
need Drop Box to download the tutorial. You can just enter on the link and
download this tutorial. This is my own recorded tutorial, and I go over
everything from start to finish with WLM. Have a great one.


-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: windows 10 boot straight to desktop

[David Moore]

Hi,
Warning, going into the control panel or any other settings to turn off 
using a password will only work if you put the computer to sleep. People are 
always saying this will turn off the need to put in a pass word for good. If 
you put the computer to sleep, this will allow you to wake up the computer 
without putting in a password. How ever, if you shut the computer down, you 
will still have to put in a password when you restart your computer. The 
only way that you can make your computer go right to the desktop after 
shutting it down, is to type in a phrase into the run dialog. I saw this on 
the list yesterday, but I was not interested, because I want a password when 
I restart the computer. I do have that checked to not require a password 
when waking the computer up. Try to find the message from yesterday where 
someone gave the instructions to type something into the run dialog to turn 
off needing a password for good. Have a great one.



-Original Message- 
From: Cher Bosch

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: windows 10 boot straight to desktop

I don't see that on the navigation tab either.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of david

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

hello;
if you want your windows 10 to load directly on to the desktop,

you need to go into, ctrl panel,
taskbar properties,
now, go to navigation,
now tab until you hear;
“When I sign in, go to the Desktop instead of the Start Screen”
this box needs to be checked.
note, you can type control into the search edit field instead of going to 
control panel.


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

No password box for me, when I boot this lil guy.

First thing I see is the start menue and I'm in the edit box to search.
The navigation tab in the properties is where I made that change but can't 
remember if it were for 8.1, 8, or windows 7. Lol.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of TheHangMan

Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Hi,
Actually goes to the password edit box first if you have one, Then, the 
desktop, If, you tab a couple times you should run into the recycle bin.


The answer is yes, I have not heard of the other stuff you posted, It's been 
straight to the desktop from day one. Maybe you mean windows +I for 
settings? Jorge







-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Does this still exist in windows 10. It used to be I think navigation pane 
in the taskbar properties.


Mine lands on the start menu.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: windows 10 boot straight to desktop

[Cher Bosch]

I don't see that on the navigation tab either.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of david
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

hello;
if you want your windows 10 to load directly on to the desktop,

you need to go into, ctrl panel,
taskbar properties,
now, go to navigation,
now tab until you hear;
“When I sign in, go to the Desktop instead of the Start Screen”
this box needs to be checked.
note, you can type control into the search edit field instead of going to 
control panel.

-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

No password box for me, when I boot this lil guy.

First thing I see is the start menue and I'm in the edit box to search.
The navigation tab in the properties is where I made that change but can't 
remember if it were for 8.1, 8, or windows 7. Lol.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of TheHangMan
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Hi,
Actually goes to the password edit box first if you have one, Then, the 
desktop, If, you tab a couple times you should run into the recycle bin.

The answer is yes, I have not heard of the other stuff you posted, It's been 
straight to the desktop from day one. Maybe you mean windows +I for settings? 
Jorge






-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Does this still exist in windows 10. It used to be I think navigation pane in 
the taskbar properties.

Mine lands on the start menu.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10!

[Cher Bosch]

Rose, even Outlook 2007 works fine with Win10- so you will still be able to
use Outlook2010.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 5:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I use Outlook 2010, and if necessary will upgrade office later.  Never a fan
of WLM.  If you are attaching files they are not making it.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
I  have to put the tutorial for WLM in my Drop Box folder, and wait for it
to upload to my account. I will send you a Drop Box link, but you do not
need Drop Box to download the tutorial. You can just enter on the link and
download this tutorial. This is my own recorded tutorial, and I go over
everything from start to finish with WLM. Have a great one.


-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[David Maynard]

There goes that 6 letter word again.  {;-) Grin 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Hi Leonard,
That should be the case.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: leonard morris lmorris1...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Do you think it will be possible to upgrade to win 10 without sighted
assistance using Jaws or even Narrator?
On 6/21/2015 3:47 AM, Rick Justice wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1),
 within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10,
 the upgrade is free.
 After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download
 from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already
 installed.
 You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing 
 schedule.
  From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any 
 updates
 to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
 It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
 Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows
 users, not an update, there is a big difference.
 Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to
 change since Windows 10 has not
 made it to public release yet.

 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


 Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
 somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
 can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
 Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


 You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
 version of jaws that is compatible with it.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Dave Carlson
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

 I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
 version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So 
 now
 that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


 I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for 
 it
 and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 
 30
 seconds on it.

 Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
 with it.

 I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
 don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
 that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
 isn't enough.
 Take care.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

 It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's 
 like
 drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimsan
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

 I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



 Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I 
 attempted
 to be mr funny today.

 He apologized and now we all move on.

 Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



 Have a great evening.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, June

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Rick Justice]

Hi David,
Well, you know by now that is standard Windows terminology! lol

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: David Maynard dmaynar...@morrisbb.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


There goes that 6 letter word again.  {;-) Grin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Hi Leonard,
That should be the case.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: leonard morris lmorris1...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Do you think it will be possible to upgrade to win 10 without sighted
assistance using Jaws or even Narrator?
On 6/21/2015 3:47 AM, Rick Justice wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1),
 within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10,
 the upgrade is free.
 After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download
 from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already
 installed.
 You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing
 schedule.
  From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any
 updates
 to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
 It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
 Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows
 users, not an update, there is a big difference.
 Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to
 change since Windows 10 has not
 made it to public release yet.

 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


 Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
 somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
 can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
 Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


 You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
 version of jaws that is compatible with it.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Dave Carlson
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

 I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
 version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So
 now
 that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


 I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for
 it
 and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent
 30
 seconds on it.

 Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
 with it.

 I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
 don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
 that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
 isn't enough.
 Take care.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

 It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's
 like
 drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimsan
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

 I have such the dry sense of humor, David

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Jeffrey Greenlee]

what does bulk and external mean in the subject line? Sorry if of topic. I
don't think it is nessary.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Hi David,
Well, you know by now that is standard Windows terminology! lol

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: David Maynard dmaynar...@morrisbb.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


There goes that 6 letter word again.  {;-) Grin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Hi Leonard,
That should be the case.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: leonard morris lmorris1...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Do you think it will be possible to upgrade to win 10 without sighted
assistance using Jaws or even Narrator?
On 6/21/2015 3:47 AM, Rick Justice wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1),
 within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10,
 the upgrade is free.
 After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download
 from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already
 installed.
 You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing
 schedule.
  From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any
 updates
 to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
 It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
 Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows
 users, not an update, there is a big difference.
 Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to
 change since Windows 10 has not
 made it to public release yet.

 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


 Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
 somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
 can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
 Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


 You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
 version of jaws that is compatible with it.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Dave Carlson
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

 I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
 version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So
 now
 that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


 I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for
 it
 and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent
 30
 seconds on it.

 Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
 with it.

 I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
 don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
 that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
 isn't enough.
 Take care.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

 It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's
 like
 drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Dave Carlson]

Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print 
somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but 
can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for 
Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a 
version of jaws that is compatible with it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So now
that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30
seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I attempted
to be mr funny today.

He apologized and now we all move on.

Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



Have a great evening.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted to
know why he made it as a curiosity.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!


I shouldn't chime, but I think his point was he doesn't care for vista?

I know where you're headed with that but...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

What's your point if I may be so bold as to ask?
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: Bob Edenhofer bob.edenho...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!


Unfortunitly, I’ve got no clue about Vista, therefore, I don’t use it, nor
do I care about vista, because I haven’t heard good things about it!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[leonard morris]

Do you think it will be possible to upgrade to win 10 without sighted 
assistance using Jaws or even Narrator?

On 6/21/2015 3:47 AM, Rick Justice wrote:

Hi Dave,
If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1),
within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10,
the upgrade is free.
After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download
from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already
installed.
You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing schedule.
 From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any updates
to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows
users, not an update, there is a big difference.
Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to
change since Windows 10 has not
made it to public release yet.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
version of jaws that is compatible with it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So now
that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30
seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I attempted
to be mr funny today.

He apologized and now we all move on.

Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



Have a great evening.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted to
know why he made it as a curiosity.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!


I shouldn't chime, but I think his point was he doesn't care for vista?

I know where you're headed with that but...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Rick Justice]

Hi Dave,
If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1), 
within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10,
the upgrade is free.
After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download 
from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already 
installed.
You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing schedule.
From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any updates 
to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows 
users, not an update, there is a big difference.
Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to 
change since Windows 10 has not
made it to public release yet.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
version of jaws that is compatible with it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So now
that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30
seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I attempted
to be mr funny today.

He apologized and now we all move on.

Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



Have a great evening.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted to
know why he made it as a curiosity.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!


I shouldn't chime, but I think his point was he doesn't care for vista?

I know where you're headed with that but...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

What's your point if I may be so bold as to ask?
David Ferrin

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Michael Boyd]

According to an article I read on the Microsoft site, the idea is to be able 
to update to Windows 10 without losing any functionality. It was not clear 
as to if the update would come through Windows Update, or as a download, but 
it is supposed to be an easy seamless update.


Mike
mike@comcast.net



-Original Message- 
From: leonard morris

Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Do you think it will be possible to upgrade to win 10 without sighted
assistance using Jaws or even Narrator?
On 6/21/2015 3:47 AM, Rick Justice wrote:

Hi Dave,
If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1),
within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10,
the upgrade is free.
After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download
from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already
installed.
You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing 
schedule.
 From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any 
updates

to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows
users, not an update, there is a big difference.
Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to
change since Windows 10 has not
made it to public release yet.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
version of jaws that is compatible with it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So 
now

that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for 
it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 
30

seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's 
like

drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from

a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I 
attempted

to be mr funny today.

He apologized and now we all move on.

Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



Have a great evening.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted to
know why he made it as a curiosity.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Rick Justice]

Hi Leonard,
That should be the case.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: leonard morris lmorris1...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Do you think it will be possible to upgrade to win 10 without sighted
assistance using Jaws or even Narrator?
On 6/21/2015 3:47 AM, Rick Justice wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1),
 within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10,
 the upgrade is free.
 After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download
 from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already
 installed.
 You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing 
 schedule.
  From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any 
 updates
 to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
 It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
 Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows
 users, not an update, there is a big difference.
 Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to
 change since Windows 10 has not
 made it to public release yet.

 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


 Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
 somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
 can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
 Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


 You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
 version of jaws that is compatible with it.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Dave Carlson
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

 I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
 version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So 
 now
 that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


 I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for 
 it
 and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 
 30
 seconds on it.

 Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
 with it.

 I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
 don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
 that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
 isn't enough.
 Take care.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

 It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's 
 like
 drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimsan
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

 I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



 Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I 
 attempted
 to be mr funny today.

 He apologized and now we all move on.

 Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



 Have a great evening.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

 I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted to
 know why he made it as a curiosity.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
 from
 a simpler

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Rick Justice]

Hi LeDon,
We will have to wait until 10 is released to know for sure.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: LeDon led...@tx.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Here's one thing that I have been wondering about for a  while. When I 
upgraded my computer from XP to windows 7, I had to reload everything , my 
jaws and office, etc., to my computer because the windows seven wiped out 
everything on my computer. I suppose that will happen when I, sometime in 
the future, upgrade to windows ten . Have I got that right? LeDon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Hi Dave,
If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1), 
within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10, the upgrade is free.
After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download 
from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already 
installed.
You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing schedule.
From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any updates 
to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows 
users, not an update, there is a big difference.
Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to 
change since Windows 10 has not made it to public release yet.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
version of jaws that is compatible with it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So now
that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30
seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I attempted
to be mr funny today.

He apologized and now we all move on.

Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



Have a great evening.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Dialup]

I have a new laptop with Win 8.1 and JFW 16 which will get Win 10 as 
soon as it's released; anything will be better than Win 8.1.
I'll post my observations as soon as I can, but keep in mind it will 
just be my opinion.

Your mileage will vary.
Glen

***

On 21-Jun-15 9:44 am, Rick Justice wrote:

Hi LeDon,
We will have to wait until 10 is released to know for sure.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: LeDon led...@tx.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Here's one thing that I have been wondering about for a  while. When I
upgraded my computer from XP to windows 7, I had to reload everything , my
jaws and office, etc., to my computer because the windows seven wiped out
everything on my computer. I suppose that will happen when I, sometime in
the future, upgrade to windows ten . Have I got that right? LeDon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Hi Dave,
If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1),
within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10, the upgrade is free.
After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download
from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already
installed.
You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing schedule.
 From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any updates
to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows
users, not an update, there is a big difference.
Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to
change since Windows 10 has not made it to public release yet.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
version of jaws that is compatible with it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So now
that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30
seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[David Ferrin]

We won't know that until the end of next month.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of leonard morris
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Do you think it will be possible to upgrade to win 10 without sighted 
assistance using Jaws or even Narrator?
On 6/21/2015 3:47 AM, Rick Justice wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1), 
 within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10, the upgrade is 
 free.
 After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by 
 download from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 
 10 already installed.
 You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing schedule.
  From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any 
 updates to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
 It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
 Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for 
 Windows users, not an update, there is a big difference.
 Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is 
 subject to change since Windows 10 has not made it to public release 
 yet.

 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


 Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
 somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, 
 but can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual 
 subscription for Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


 You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a 
 version of jaws that is compatible with it.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

 I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the 
 current version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it 
 is not. So now that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


 I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched 
 for it and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I 
 only spent 30 seconds on it.

 Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do 
 anything with it.

 I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once 
 you don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  
 I like that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for 
 dropbox which isn't enough.
 Take care.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

 It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's 
 like drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Kimsan
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

 I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



 Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I 
 attempted to be mr funny today.

 He apologized and now we all move on.

 Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



 Have a great evening.
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

 I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted 
 to know why he made it as a curiosity

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[LeDon]

Here's one thing that I have been wondering about for a  while. When I upgraded 
my computer from XP to windows 7, I had to reload everything , my jaws and 
office, etc., to my computer because the windows seven wiped out everything on 
my computer. I suppose that will happen when I, sometime in the future, upgrade 
to windows ten . Have I got that right? LeDon. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Hi Dave,
If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1), within 
one (1) year from the release of Windows 10, the upgrade is free.
After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download from 
Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already installed.
You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing schedule.
From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any updates to 
it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows 
users, not an update, there is a big difference.
Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to 
change since Windows 10 has not made it to public release yet.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
version of jaws that is compatible with it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So now
that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30
seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I attempted
to be mr funny today.

He apologized and now we all move on.

Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



Have a great evening.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted to
know why he made it as a curiosity.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 not showing up for me- how do I get it?

[Don Cher]

Been there, done that to both suggestions, unfortunately. MS replaced my
original Win7 disk when it became apparent that the original was defective-
and becoming convinced that somehow that messed up registration somehow.
Hoping they can fix since they broke :)

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 not showing up for me- how do I
get it?

Try clicking on Check for Updates in Windows Update and see if something
doesn't appear where the Important and Optional updates usually are found. 
It will tell you to check the system tray for the icon, and it will now be
there. click on the icon in the system tray and follow the prompts to
register ofr the upgrade.

I read that you can also go to www.windows.com/getwindows10.com, and
register for the upgrade there.

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: Don  Cher
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 not showing up for me- how do I get it?

Running Win 7 64 bit with automatic updates turned on- wondering why I have
no notification.



Cher





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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10

[Rick Justice]

Hi Dave,
If you upgrade to Windows 10 within 1 year from it becoming available, it is 
free,
after that time period, it will have to be purchased.
You should probably consult the Microsoft website for their pricing 
structure.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10


Okay, just jumped in here -- what will this cost, after the first free year?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Dialup @ 56k dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 09:33 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10


Reserved 24 hours ago; no notification from MS.
AND the download is in the order of 3 GIG.
Ouch.
Glen

***

On 3-Jun-15 2:18 pm, Jim Rawls wrote:
 I did the same as you and I think your confirmation will come just before
 it
 is released. Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of T. Civitello
 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:58 PM
 To: Jaws users list
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10

 I reserved a copy of Windows 10 about 4 hours ago and requested
 confirmation
 by E Mail and entered my address but have not received confirmation. What
 has been the experience of others?  Thanks, Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10

[Marek Durila]

119 USD windows 10 Home and 199 USD Windows Pro, if you have windows Home
and needs Pro it will cost 99 USD the upgrade.


 
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From:   Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date:   2015-06-03 06:36 AM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re:  Windows 10
Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com



Okay, just jumped in here -- what will this cost, after the first free
year?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Dialup @ 56k dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 09:33 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10


Reserved 24 hours ago; no notification from MS.
AND the download is in the order of 3 GIG.
Ouch.
Glen

***

On 3-Jun-15 2:18 pm, Jim Rawls wrote:
 I did the same as you and I think your confirmation will come just before

 it
 is released. Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of T. Civitello
 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:58 PM
 To: Jaws users list
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10

 I reserved a copy of Windows 10 about 4 hours ago and requested
 confirmation
 by E Mail and entered my address but have not received confirmation. What
 has been the experience of others?  Thanks, Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10

[Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)]

Good question, Dave.  PCWorld stated months ago that Ms is going to treat this 
as a long-term platform--something that can be tweaked and sustained over a 
period of time, rather than something to be scrapped every couple of 
years--radical concept, eh?  Buying and installing DOS was never a big 
deal--didn't cost much, required no sighted help.  But a long-term Windows 
would be a real blessing, provided it was stable and well thought out.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10

Okay, just jumped in here -- what will this cost, after the first free year?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Dialup @ 56k dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 09:33 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10


Reserved 24 hours ago; no notification from MS.
AND the download is in the order of 3 GIG.
Ouch.
Glen

***

On 3-Jun-15 2:18 pm, Jim Rawls wrote:
 I did the same as you and I think your confirmation will come just before 
 it
 is released. Jim

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of T. Civitello
 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:58 PM
 To: Jaws users list
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10

 I reserved a copy of Windows 10 about 4 hours ago and requested 
 confirmation
 by E Mail and entered my address but have not received confirmation. What
 has been the experience of others?  Thanks, Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10

[Dave Carlson]

Okay, just jumped in here -- what will this cost, after the first free year?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Dialup @ 56k dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 09:33 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10


Reserved 24 hours ago; no notification from MS.
AND the download is in the order of 3 GIG.
Ouch.
Glen

***

On 3-Jun-15 2:18 pm, Jim Rawls wrote:
 I did the same as you and I think your confirmation will come just before 
 it
 is released. Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of T. Civitello
 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:58 PM
 To: Jaws users list
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10

 I reserved a copy of Windows 10 about 4 hours ago and requested 
 confirmation
 by E Mail and entered my address but have not received confirmation. What
 has been the experience of others?  Thanks, Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10

[Dialup @ 56k]

My reading of this is that it is not a subscription software model (like 
adobe use).

It is a free upgrade to eligible users.
Glen

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On 3-Jun-15 2:35 pm, Dave Carlson wrote:

Okay, just jumped in here -- what will this cost, after the first free year?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Dialup @ 56k dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 09:33 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10


Reserved 24 hours ago; no notification from MS.
AND the download is in the order of 3 GIG.
Ouch.
Glen

***

On 3-Jun-15 2:18 pm, Jim Rawls wrote:

I did the same as you and I think your confirmation will come just before
it
is released. Jim

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:58 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10

I reserved a copy of Windows 10 about 4 hours ago and requested
confirmation
by E Mail and entered my address but have not received confirmation. What
has been the experience of others?  Thanks, Tom

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