Re: [JBoss-dev] cmp with multiple datasource

2003-11-01 Thread Brian Wallis
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:49 am, Adrian Brock wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 13:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Could you please give me an example or any reference where I can begin
  with JCA?

 http://java.sun.com/j2ee/connector/

 The admin docs includes a simple resource adapter.
 Or you can look at the jboss jdbc/jms resource adapters.

If you can get hold of a copy of J2EE Connector Architecture and Enterprise 
Application Integration by Rahul Sharma, Beth Stearns and Tony Ng it is 
worth a read (or two, it takes a bit of getting into). When I wrote my first 
JCA I found that book to be a great help.

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Re: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.

2003-08-22 Thread Brian Wallis
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:21 pm, Juha Lindfors wrote:
 Subclasses would fall under LGPL, as far as I can tell, if they're
 distributed publically.

What about implements EntityBean etc. Surely all my beans are not now LGPL. 
Or extends ServiceMBeanSupport so my mbeans are now LGPL. 

I hope not. I think that interpretation would severely limit the use of the 
JBoss.

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Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] Re: Recent CVS removals

2003-08-08 Thread Brian Wallis
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 03:30 am, Juha Lindfors wrote:
 The benefit for design and development discussion is clear. You can very
 easily get the whole history of the discussion thread in front of you (or
 several threads). Even if the discussion occured 6 months ago and you were
 not there then to read through it.

Just to confuse the issue :-) I've found a much more useful forum for design 
discussions to be a Wiki web. We have been successfully using one for nearly 
a year now and have the best documentation for our design work that I have 
ever experienced.

The reason is that it is possible to re-factor the discussions, after 
decisions are made, into the design document without all the contradictory 
multithreaded discussions to confuse the reader. We use Twiki which also has 
version control so the original discussions are still there for historical 
purposes.

Of course, it requires a level of trust and responsibility on the part of the 
contributers.

As to web forums. One that allows either web or email participation would help 
get more people involved. To split it across two seems very wasteful to me.

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[JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] Recent CVS removals

2003-08-07 Thread Brian Wallis
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:49, Bill Burke wrote:
 2. More importantly, we have learned that they have forked JBoss.  We also
 believe they are preparing to submit it, or some derivation, to the new
 Apache Geronimo project which would violate copyright and LGPL.  Our proof?

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/elba

I had a look (at one randomly selected file) and it is a direct copy with the 
line JBoss, the OpenSource EJB server removed from the top.

Shit. Back to the unix wars of my youth. And that is the thing that really 
damaged unix and gave MS an unassailable head start.



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[JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] July 2003 news

2003-08-06 Thread Brian Wallis
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 05:15, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
 P.S. Do you know that there are java source files licensed under GPL
 (not LGPL) in the latest JBoss 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 distributions and even in
 the CVS HEAD? Are you surprised?

This statement worries me.

Vlad, can you name one or more specific files that are GPL rather than LGPL?

If these do exist what is the plan to rectify what to me seems to be a serious 
problem. Something like this could prevent me from using JBoss at all. This 
is serious if true!

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Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss/David Vs. Sun/Goliath?

2003-03-24 Thread Brian Wallis
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 01:16, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

 To Brian Wallis, even if Jboss were to get certified, it would not make
 your J2EE compliant applications portable.  Why?  There are may
 important things considered outside the specification.  For example,
 all database mappings for CMP are outside the spec, even using a
 database for CMP is outside the spec.  Then you get into things like
 exception recovery and tuning, and you are way outside the spec.
 Unless you have a very simple application it will not be portable
 without multiple configuration files and possibly a portably a
 portability layer.

Yeh, well. That doesn't mean it isn't possible and that it isn't a goal 
required by more than one organisation that allows you to use software like 
JBoss (and TAO, OpenORB, etc..)  See Herve Tchepannou's xpetstore for a good 
non-trivial example of what can be done.

I have been writing more (and less) portable software for about 13 years now 
and know what is involved. There are always difficulties. But if there are 
standards used and adhered to it makes it easier. Writing an app that is 
portable between a J2EE server and .NET would be far more difficult, or 
portable to ObjectSpace's voyager or to a distributed agent platform, etc. 
Usually you don't need to actually do it, just convince the management that 
you can do it (and easily, at no cost, etc..  :-)

If JBoss adheres to the standards as they are and will be then I will be able 
to keep using it. If it doesn't then (despite what I want to do) I probably 
won't be given the opportunity to keep using it. 

Remember, the customer is always right and you can't always punish them for 
the arrogance (apologies to Dogbert and Scott Adams :-)


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Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss/David Vs. Sun/Goliath?

2003-03-24 Thread Brian Wallis
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:07, Bill Burke wrote:

 Please ignore the FUD from SUN.  We have and always will strictly abide by
 the standards.

As I expected you would. Thanks and keep up the great work!

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Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss/David Vs. Sun/Goliath?

2003-03-23 Thread Brian Wallis
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:42, Tom Elrod wrote:
 IMHO, I don't know that passing the certification tests now would be of
 much benefit to JBoss.  The biggest drawback I can see is that with JBoss
 4, we will be moving people away from having to deal with all the extra API
 non-sense that J2EE developers have to deal with today.  Just write your
 POJOs and we'll do the rest (persistence, caching, security, remoting,
 etc.).  If we get certified now, might be added pressure to make JBoss 4
 compliant as well, which I think would divert us from our current
 direction.

IMHO, that would be about it for anyone (like me) who is trying to use jboss 
as well as other appservers. I seriously hope that jboss 4 will be fully 
compliant with the standards or else I fear it will become marginalised and 
in all likely hood die off.


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