[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-06-22 Thread acoliver
Can you ask that question in more detail?   -Thanks

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-27 Thread spiritualmechanic
Okay, let me read what Mike said and I'll get back to you. I've been looking into the 
JCA code itself a bunch, so I haven't spent much time on mail.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-27 Thread spiritualmechanic
Which operations do you think you'd want on the connection interface? This is 
definitely interesting, and a more interesting line of thinking than just 
pooling/securing a Session.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-25 Thread mikea-xoba
andy, by last part, do you mean just my item #5? i do admit #5 would be cutting 
corners a bit.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-25 Thread acoliver
No I meant your improper choice of editor.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-24 Thread spiritualmechanic
Okay so you want to use the mailing-out features of Mail Services instead. Which class 
do you want me to wrap/use? One of the SMTP ones?

Sometimes I think the actual coding in software development is the easy part. 
Communication is the hard part. :)

Not me: Do you understand?
Me: Of course I do!

... one month later ...

Not me: No you don't, sucka.
Me: Doh!

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-24 Thread spiritualmechanic
Okay, now I'm planning on using org.jboss.mail.smtp.sender classes. I'll probably have 
the JCA implement SMTPSenderBean.



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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-24 Thread mikea-xoba
here's the way i understand the mail situation going forward in jboss, with  respect 
to jca and jbmail (jbmail = this forum's Mail Services) and  this forum thread; please 
post corrections to this where i err:

1. there's currently an mbean called 'jboss:service=Mail' which uses mbean code  
org.jboss.mail.MailService. this service installs a  javax.naming.Reference to 
javax.mail.Session into JNDI, by default at  java:/Mail. the properties of this 
Session object are configured by  the mbean deployment descriptor, but 'user' and 
'password'  attributes can be changed dynamically. thus, one javax.mail.Session  
object is created per JNDI lookup, with the current global set of properties.

2. the jboss:service=Mail mbean is appropriate for server-wide shared  use, and not 
for specific clients. it represents the server itself as  a 'user',  and not 
human-users a'la pop3.  thus, jboss-logging and other jboss modules can share  it, all 
operating under the same account.

3. the jboss:service=Mail mbean relies on sun's implementation of   
javax.mail.Session, which uses the network to deliver and store   email --- via smtp, 
pop3, etcetera. the nasty bug i reported at the   start of this thread, re 
'MethodNotSupportedException', seemed to   indicate that sun's implementation does not 
support pop3, which i   find difficult to believe! but that's another story...

4. we can develop another implementation of javax.mail.Session   (steve's project), 
which relies on native jbmail operations (message driven beans, etc) when   using host 
'localhost' (i.e., no smtp/pop3/networking/etc, unlike   sun's implementation), and 
make the Session available under the   JCA specification. presumably 'JCA' here means 
a resource adapter to   javax.mail.Session connections that also may enable pooling, 
transactions   etc... (see http://java.sun.com/j2ee/connector/index.jsp)  

5. in the short term, to get JCA started quickly (rather than going for step #4 at 
first), i imagine we may just implement a wrapper around sun's javax.mail.Session and 
connect to jbmail on localhost via smtp and pop3. this is basically what i was trying 
when playing with the idea of webmail, sans the JCA part. 

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btw, i'm composing this post in EMACS due to risk of losing the text  of the post  
when resizing browser window... i should probably post this bug report on  the nukes 
forum. sorry!

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-24 Thread acoliver
Mike sounds right with the exception of the last part.  vi is the proper tool.  I do 
not loose my posts composing on Mozilla Firefox (aka firebird)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-24 Thread kabkhan
I use Textpad myself :-)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-23 Thread spiritualmechanic
Hey, the status is very alpha, untested. The code is uploaded, but with no unit tests. 
I'm still working on the unit tests and figuring out all I need in order to bootstrap 
the server with JNDI/JCA and load it up correctly.

I didn't mean for things to take so long, but things have been crazy at work and this 
week is going to be no different.

If you look at the source of MailService (in varia), you see:

  Session session = Session.getInstance(props, a);
  bind(session);

Which I guess shows that all they do is act like a client. Pop3 attribute is available 
in the MBean, which implies that one in theory, could retrieve email. I know very 
little about that part of the JavaMail spec.

Right now, the way things are planned, the JCA adapter will do the same thing 
MailService does.

Steve

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-23 Thread acoliver
Right now, the way things are planned, the JCA adapter will do the same thing 
MailService does. 

Run that by me again?  You're not writing the JCA adapter to USE mail services?

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-23 Thread spiritualmechanic
Unless I misunderstood (and I may) I thought a pooled, secure, JavaMail session was 
wanted. If there are other pieces of Mail Services we want to JCA-ify, that can be 
done as well.

I thought the JCA was just the first piece, and there'd be a piece on top, a subsystem 
using the Mail Services to handle relays, etc.

The reason Session.getInstance() is going to be used is because you pass in the 
user/password to get a Mail Session bound to the mail server with those credentials. 
Maybe there's another way I've missed?

Not trying to give you a heart attack, honest! :)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: javamail Session, Store, Folder, JCA

2004-05-23 Thread acoliver
Sucka that's client only.  That isn't basically what mail services does...bah.  What 
would be nice is a JCA wrapper around mail services as well which you can instead send 
mail to the 'local mail server as opposed to the remote mail server.  

Eventually I want to either re-implement or re-write JavaMail because it sucks equine 
hybrid genitalia excuse my french.

-Andy

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