RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.
According to this post to POI-dev, Dave Turner (Mr License) of the FSF has decreed that the steps required to use an LGPL'd Java library will actually infect client code with substantial GNU-ness via Section 6 of the LGPL. (The "Lesser" GPL is supposed to protect only the Library, without infecting code using the library) This, as you might imagine, puts a few LGPL Java projects that previously thought they were embeddable without being viral in a bit of a bind. Various weblogs have further coverage." THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART Update: 07/18 02:44 GMT by CN: The FSF's Executive Director, Brad Kuhn adds "LGPL's S. 6 allows you to make new works that link with the LGPL'ed code, and license them any way you see fit. Only the LGPL'ed code itself must remain Free. Such 'client code' can even be proprietary; it need not be LGPL'ed." Bill Burke Chief Architect JBoss Group, LLC Cast your vote for JBoss as JDJ Best App Server http://www.sys-con.com/java/readerschoice2003/vote.cfm > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian > Wallis > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. > > > On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:21 pm, Juha Lindfors wrote: > > Subclasses would fall under LGPL, as far as I can tell, if they're > > distributed publically. > > What about "implements EntityBean" etc. Surely all my beans are > not now LGPL. > Or "extends ServiceMBeanSupport" so my mbeans are now LGPL. > > I hope not. I think that interpretation would severely limit the > use of the > JBoss. > > brian... > > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware > With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. > WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines > at the same time. Free trial click > here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 > ___ > JBoss-Development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.
Only if you distribute it. If you don't distribute it then its not enacted. So if you hack jboss up for your internal systems, you're not obligated. If you distribute those to the outside world, you're obligated. However, take this advice for utter BS (and Juha's too, no offense). The best advice anyone can get regarding ANY software license is ask an attorney. As an experienced open source guy, the first thing I did when I started making any substantial amount of money was find an attorney. I can make a recommendation for one if you need one. -Andy On 8/21/03 6:21 AM, "Juha Lindfors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Subclasses would fall under LGPL, as far as I can tell, if they're > distributed publically. > > -- Juha > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Jim Brownfield wrote: > >> I believe subclassing would also be OK, so if you need to modify >> functionality, you might be able to extend a JBoss class without making your >> code opensource. >> >> -- >> Jim Brownfield >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Radical System Solutions, Inc. >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of Bill Burke >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:42 AM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. >>> >>> >>> IANAL. Plugins are ok I think. But any modified JBoss >>> source code must be >>> licensed under LGPL and become itself, open source. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >>>> Venkatesh V >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:19 AM >>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Subject: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Can we add plugin's to JBoss & modify JBoss >>>> source code and use it for commercial purposes. >>>> >>>> How is the Licence for the JBoss. I have read the LGPL >>>> Licence, but i am not getting it clearly Plz send your >>>> comments. >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Venkatesh V >>>> >>>> __ >>>> Do you Yahoo!? >>>> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >>>> http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. >>>> Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available >>> today? From >>>> careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech >>> jobs from the >>>> best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 >>>> ___ >>>> JBoss-Development mailing list >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. >>> Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From >>> careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech >>> jobs from the >>> best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 >>> ___ >>> JBoss-Development mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>> >> >> >> >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. >> Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From >> careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the >> best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code4 >> ___ >> JBoss-Development mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >> >> > > > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice h
Re: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:21 pm, Juha Lindfors wrote: > Subclasses would fall under LGPL, as far as I can tell, if they're > distributed publically. What about "implements EntityBean" etc. Surely all my beans are not now LGPL. Or "extends ServiceMBeanSupport" so my mbeans are now LGPL. I hope not. I think that interpretation would severely limit the use of the JBoss. brian... --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.
Subclasses would fall under LGPL, as far as I can tell, if they're distributed publically. -- Juha On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Jim Brownfield wrote: > I believe subclassing would also be OK, so if you need to modify > functionality, you might be able to extend a JBoss class without making your > code opensource. > > -- > Jim Brownfield > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Radical System Solutions, Inc. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Bill Burke > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. > > > > > > IANAL. Plugins are ok I think. But any modified JBoss > > source code must be > > licensed under LGPL and become itself, open source. > > > > Bill > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > > Venkatesh V > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:19 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Can we add plugin's to JBoss & modify JBoss > > > source code and use it for commercial purposes. > > > > > > How is the Licence for the JBoss. I have read the LGPL > > > Licence, but i am not getting it clearly Plz send your > > > comments. > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Regards > > > Venkatesh V > > > > > > __ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > > > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available > > today? From > > > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech > > jobs from the > > > best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 > > > ___ > > > JBoss-Development mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From > > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech > > jobs from the > > best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 > > ___ > > JBoss-Development mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > > > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the > best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code4 > ___ > JBoss-Development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.
I believe subclassing would also be OK, so if you need to modify functionality, you might be able to extend a JBoss class without making your code opensource. -- Jim Brownfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radical System Solutions, Inc. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bill Burke > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. > > > IANAL. Plugins are ok I think. But any modified JBoss > source code must be > licensed under LGPL and become itself, open source. > > Bill > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > Venkatesh V > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:19 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Can we add plugin's to JBoss & modify JBoss > > source code and use it for commercial purposes. > > > > How is the Licence for the JBoss. I have read the LGPL > > Licence, but i am not getting it clearly Plz send your > > comments. > > > > TIA > > > > Regards > > Venkatesh V > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > > > --- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available > today? From > > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech > jobs from the > > best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 > > ___ > > JBoss-Development mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > > > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech > jobs from the > best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 > ___ > JBoss-Development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code4 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.
IANAL. Plugins are ok I think. But any modified JBoss source code must be licensed under LGPL and become itself, open source. Bill > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Venkatesh V > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. > > > Hi All, > > Can we add plugin's to JBoss & modify JBoss > source code and use it for commercial purposes. > > How is the Licence for the JBoss. I have read the LGPL > Licence, but i am not getting it clearly Plz send your > comments. > > TIA > > Regards > Venkatesh V > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the > best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 > ___ > JBoss-Development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.
Hi All, Can we add plugin's to JBoss & modify JBoss source code and use it for commercial purposes. How is the Licence for the JBoss. I have read the LGPL Licence, but i am not getting it clearly Plz send your comments. TIA Regards Venkatesh V __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
