[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Ambiguous user guide

2007-03-02 Thread angra81
Maybe it's me to miss something... but if I have two possibilities to download 
something.. in the end I must to obtain the same thing... why of course they 
are different? 

tx,
dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Ambiguous user guide

2007-03-01 Thread angra81
Hi,
I'm following the user guide 
http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/bpel/getstarted.html
to begin working with jbpm bpel.
At the paragraph 
http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/bpel/getstarted.html#getstarted.jbpmbpel
he explains two different ways to get the jbpm bpel package. My really big 
problem is that the two ways take two completely different directories... 

Anyone can explain me what do I have to take?

Thanks,
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-28 Thread angra81
Sorry, I've got a mistake, i've quickly posted the last question and I got 
confused... 

I wanted to know if is it possible to invoke external web services from the 
jPDL, not from BPEL... 
I've used the getting started with jbpm and I designed a little process as 
found in there. So I have some task, but I cannot understand how can I invoke 
external web services from.

Sorry for my mistake... ;)

tx,
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-27 Thread angra81
Is it possible to invoke external web services from the BPEL in jBPM?

tx,
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread angra81
meghanai_99 wrote : 
  | Where do I get the console subproject?
  | 

Me too i'm interested in this question, but I didn't understand the answer of 
kukeltje.

And what is the web console? I'm searching for it but i've not found it. Is it 
a plug in, something to download and install, or is it something of different?

Thanks, 
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread angra81
Yes, i've checked the wiki, I've followed all the steps. 
But I didn't understand what is the web console? Is it the web page where I 
can arrive with the link monitoring?

And also... is it possible to modify the web pages and above all the scenarios 
which I have after deploying the process archive? I'm interested in taking the 
bpel scenario and modify it a little bit (by adding some information about the 
process...)

Thanks,
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-21 Thread angra81
So if I understand correctly, there's no such API that would help me to access 
the runtime evolution of a bpel scenario.

One solution you're proposing is to look into the bpel process log file or DB, 
which does not seem very convenient ...

I thought there would be some facilities provided to access the bpel engine at 
runtime and thus get 'live' information on a running bpel process and use it to 
refresh a web interface.

Is that correct?

Thanx in advance,

--dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-21 Thread angra81
Ok...

I'll try to explain better...

I want a web page.
In this web page I want to show a BPEL scenario.
I want this BPEL scenario to be dynamic, it means I also want to represent the 
changes at run time. I think that, client side, the dynamism can be obtained by 
using ajax technology. The refresh can be every 10/15 seconds. If I use ajax 
technology I think that the complexity of the page won't make influence in the 
refresh, isn't it?
In this scenario I want to represent the Business Process Tree, and, in some 
way, to represent the events that happen. 
Making an example, I want to see some information about every service of the 
business process (every state of the business process tree), such as a counter 
that tell me how many objects have passed this service, or how many objects 
there are in the queue... and things like this. 
If the bpel process is doing nothing it means that in my bpel scenario I won't  
see any change. 

I hope it's clear...
Tx
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-14 Thread angra81
I mean process monitoring as having a web interface (implemented with flash, 
or ajax, or others) where I can see, at run time, the evolution of objects  
each time that they receive a web service of my business process. This 
evolution might be represented by icons colors, or icons changes, or something 
like this...

If it's not clear, that which I desire is to implement something like ILog 
jViews, and here you can see a demo:
http://pardemo02.ilog.fr/wfthc/?CFID=7582251CFTOKEN=20943353

I want to implement something like this. 

Is it feasible?

Thanks, 
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-14 Thread angra81
Actually I'm just starting in using business processes, jbpm, and all this, and 
I'm exploring the solutions, so I'm sorry if I place stupid questions... :)

Well, I try to explain better.
Firstly, my objects are documents (application forms, motivation letters, CV, 
etc...)
Imagine a document to have to be validated by somebody. The validation is made, 
in my system, by a web service.
In my interface I want to see, e.g., the scenario of the web services, an icon 
(representing the service which has validated the document) which change color 
for a moment when the object document is validated, and some additional 
information (the name of the document, or the history of the services received 
in the scenario by the documents, etc...).
My interface will be a web interface, I repeat, and I want to see all this in 
an animation in a web page (made using flash, jsp, applet, ajax, etc). 

I think that I can do it if you tell me that I can see (and use) the process 
variables, isn't it?

Thanks,
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-13 Thread angra81
So I have another question...
Is it feasible to implement a system to monitor the processes with jBPM? 
Is it better using BPEL or jPDL?
I have to do it in approximately 4,5 months.

Thanks, 
Dario

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-12 Thread angra81
thank you!
;-)

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-09 Thread angra81
Hi everybody,

I'm searching for a tool which allows me to make web services orchestration, 
with a particular interest in the business process workflow monitoring 
(runtime). 

Is JBpm a good tool to work with to make web service orchestration?

Does JBpm allow me to make a satisfactory workflow monitoring ? I'd like to see 
dynamically the evolution of the business processes?

However, can you indicate me something else as Tool?

Thanks,
Dario

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