[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam 2.0.1GA : EJB Blockers with Weblogic 9.x/10.x

2008-02-07 Thread joerg.schneider
Hi Christian,

could you let me know the case number with BEA ? Since I opened a case myself I 
could refer to your number when talking to BEA.
You can send me the case number to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam 2.0.1GA : EJB Blockers with Weblogic 9.x/10.x

2008-02-07 Thread joerg.schneider
Hi,

does that mean the changes (finally :-) find their way into the next release of 
Seam ? That is at least what I'd expect and as far as I understood from Gavin, 
support for other appservers than JBoss has become a top priority for the Seam 
project (see respect. Seam 2.0.0 announcment thread in TheServerSide). 

@Christian : again, thanks for that excellent piece of work.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam 2.0.1GA : EJB Blockers with Weblogic 9.x/10.x

2008-02-06 Thread joerg.schneider
Excellent - brilliant - what more can I say ? Apparently someone finally spent 
some fforts in resolving this issue entirely and got Seam work fine in 
Weblogic. Now, that not only the vararg issue is resolved but also any 
subsequent issue and the Seam examples running fine (incl. the 
TimerServiceDispatcher EJB) I'd strongly suggest to include these changes into 
the next release.
Just excluding the TimerService from the seam deployment should not be an 
option anymore, now that there is a solution available.

You made my day :-)

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam 2.0.1GA : EJB Blockers with Weblogic 9.x/10.x

2008-02-05 Thread joerg.schneider
Hi,

I don't think that there will be a problem running JBoss with jrockit, since 
the part that decompiles the EJB's and creates the source code seem to be 
weblogic/appserver specific and has nothing to do with the plain underlying JVM.
Apparently, JBoss is working fine in this respect - anyhow, a simple test case 
could be to deploy the seam samples as they are in JBoss using a jrockit JVM. 
Since Seam contains the TimerServiceDispatcher EJB using varargs that should 
trigger the problem - or not :-)

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam 2.0.1GA : EJB Blockers with Weblogic 9.x/10.x

2008-02-05 Thread joerg.schneider
Hi, 

since my company owns a support contract with BEA, I did open an official 
"CASE" with BEA - let's see what happens.

I will keep you informed.

Thanks.


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[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam 2.0.1GA : EJB Blockers with Weblogic 9.x/10.x

2008-02-05 Thread joerg.schneider
Hi,

I added some more comments to the existing BEA forum, so anyone being 
interested can read :

http://forums.bea.com/thread.jspa?messageID=36290

I very much appreciate Pete's comment and would naturally be happy either way 
it is done - using arrays/ArrayLists or having a separate jboss-seam.jar for 
weblogic is perfectly fine with me :-)

Thanks.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Seam 2.0.1GA : EJB Blockers with Weblogic 9.x/10.x

2008-02-05 Thread joerg.schneider
Hi,

first of all congratulations for the Seam 2.0.1GA release and thanks for the 
updated documentation, especially how to run Seam in appservers other than 
JBoss. 
As I read from the docs the varargs issue with Bea Weblogic still persists. As 
far as I understood, BEA claims this issue to be an ambiguity within the Java 
specs, since the same flag is used to mark fields transient as it is used to 
mark methods have variable arguments. I furthermore understood, that this issue 
is not necessarily related to EJB's only, but actually apply to any java code. 
The fact that the issue shows up with EJB's only is due to jrockits re-compiles 
the EJB's during deployment. 
As per my understanding, a compiler/interpreter should be in a position to 
handle the transient/vararg flag different for fields and methods (as Sun's 
implementation apparently does) so I actually see it BEA's responsibility to 
fix that issue.

Anyhow, according to my experience I'd not expect such a fix is being delivered 
by BEA within the next 12 months, if at all. Since the next 1 or 2 years 
certainly will be very important for the roll-out and further distribution of 
Seam, would it make sense to fix that (rather "work around") within Seam in the 
meantime ? As far as I understood, the proposed work around is to use arrays 
instead of varargs in methods/constructors to avoid the issue. This seem to be 
an acceptable work around for me to overcome the issue for any of my 
projects/developments. The only problem remaining is : how many Seam internal 
EJB's are using varargs currently and if it makes sense to use arrays instead 
of varargs to have some kind of Weblogic/JRockit compatibility ? 
I mean I fully understand that using varargs is the proper implementation, but 
I'd consider using arrays as a valid work around and if it's only the 
"TimerService" ejb that currently causes the problem in JRockit/Weblogic, why 
not take a step back (=use arrays) and therefore have another major player 
(Weblogic) on board. I made much bigger comprises during my IT career so far :-)

If a fix for jrockit is provided that can naturally been reversed.

Any thoughts ? 


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