[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - JBPM Migration 3.2.* - 4.*

2009-07-15 Thread johncarl81
I am very excited about the beta release of JBPM4.  From what I have read it 
has native Spring integration, which is something I require on my current 
project.  We have had a lot of success with JBPM 3.2.2 processes in our 
production user management system (custom, I wrote), but have hit a couple road 
blocks in terms of the Spring integration module (timers, sub-processes, etc).  
The module really is incomplete.

What are the plans for a migration tool or any other possibilities for 
migrating the 3.2.* schema to a 4.* schema?  I would hate to have to loose all 
the production data or do a manual data conversion myself.

Also, I assume there is going to be a JBoss Happy Pad for 4.*.  Is this correct?

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: JBPM Migration 3.2.* - 4.*

2009-07-15 Thread johncarl81
Thank you for the quick reply.

jbarrez wrote : anonymous wrote : I am very excited about the beta release of 
JBPM4. 
  | 
  | jBPM4 isnt beta anymore ... GA was released last Friday. But we're very 
happy that you are excited :-)
  | 

Even better... where am I getting my dated information?

jbarrez wrote : 
  | Note that jBPM4 is designed so it can run next to jBPM3 (no package name 
clashes or database schema clashes).
  | 

That might be an acceptable solution, to run 3  4 in tandem, but might make 
the application a bit bloated, especially with the wacky spring integration 
module... I'll certainly keep it in mind.

jbarrez wrote : 
  | More migration info, see devguide: 
http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/v4.0/devguide/html_single/

Thanks for the link to the dev guide... I had not found that documentation yet.

I am going to give the upgrade and data migration to version 4 a try.  We are 
not using a lot of the functionality in 3 and this might help us in the move.  
If you are interested I will keep you informed.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Couple of questions about some jBPM functionality

2008-06-21 Thread johncarl81
bump for a response

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Couple of questions about some jBPM functionality

2008-06-13 Thread johncarl81
I've finally took the plunge and started the application... I have a pretty 
cool data structure that holds my various user profile attributes based on the 
hibernate MapEntity, Entity capability. I chose this route because our user 
application from is ALWAYS changing from management, outside influences, new 
apps coming online, etc.

To handle this user form during the process, I was thinking about just 
referencing a new hibernated entity and then merging into the 'finished' 
application forms at the end of the process. The trick here is I want each of 
the nodes to access the form in different ways. So, does it sound appropriate 
to implement a custom node that can deal with the permissions on the attribute 
data map? I can see an alternative to this would be to use the standard node 
types and simply merge the process variables into a new application form at the 
end of the process.

Also, another thing I was wondering about, is there a way to 'cancel' or draw 
back tasks associated with a given node or process? This would be useful if the 
user cancels the workflow.

Let me know if I need to clarify anything.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: New application brewing, need some advice

2008-06-11 Thread johncarl81
All right,

So, I've finally took the plunge and started the application.  I have a pretty 
cool data structure that holds my various user profile attributes based on the 
hibernate MapEntity, Entity capability.  I chose this route because our user 
application from is ALWAYS changing from management, outside influences, new 
apps coming online, etc.

To handle this user form during the process, I was thinking about just 
referencing a new hibernated entity and then merging into the 'finished' 
application forms at the end of the process.  The trick here is I want each of 
the nodes to access the form in different ways.  So, does it sound appropriate 
to implement a custom node that can deal with the permissions on the attribute 
data map?  I can see an alternative to this would be to use the standard node 
types and simply merge the process variables into a new application form at the 
end of the process.

Also, another thing I was wondering about, is there a way to 'cancel' or draw 
back tasks associated with a given node or process?  This would be useful if 
the user cancels the workflow.

Thanks again... let me know if I need to clarify anything.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: New application brewing, need some advice

2008-05-08 Thread johncarl81
heheheh, thanks for the clarification.

I think we are going to build out a couple of Services... that could be 
integrated into an ESB in future cases.  We're a pretty small shop right now so 
I don't think it makes a lot of sense.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: New application brewing, need some advice

2008-05-01 Thread johncarl81
Thats very cool and appreciated.  I was discussing this solution and we think 
it might have a big enough scope for an ESB solution.  Any thoughts on this?

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: New application brewing, need some advice

2008-04-30 Thread johncarl81
I was doing some more poking around at jBPM, and installed the eclipse editor 
plugin.  So cool... Im such an easy sell when things have a nice gui.  The 
framework seems pretty lightweight too.  Is is common practice to embed jBPM 
into your application, or use it as a separate resource?  I think for this 
project it makes sense to embed it.

I recently went to local JUG meeting where we had a JBoss guy (Burr Sutter) 
give us the shpeal for JBossESB... looks like they use jBPM for the management 
of the ESB nodes as well.  It's cool when a component like this is useful 
across different contexts.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - New application brewing, need some advice

2008-04-29 Thread johncarl81
Hey guys,

So, I need some advice on starting my latest application.  Basically, it is a 
user management system, based on an 'ARF' (application request form) that we 
use at our company.  It has a pretty simple workflow of approvals and 
notifications that it runs through with one caveat, the workflow probably will 
change, and additional ARFs will be added to the application for routing and 
management.  I was looking at a variety of workflow engines for this and jBPM 
stood out among the crowd.  

I am thinking that I can just implement a couple of base modules, for the 
approval processes (who approves what) with a couple other editing and applying 
roles steps to the process and tie it all together with jBPM.

Does this sound reasonable?  Or should I consider some more options?  

Thanks for your input.

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