[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2008-01-31 Thread chrismeadows
+1

But until then, the MBean approach is a good approach.

If, however, your system is mostly asynchronous/event driven, then J2EE isn't 
really the way to proceed; you may want to use the JBoss JSLEE container 
instead, http://labs.jboss.com/mobicents

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-06-27 Thread kevinpauli
+1

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-04-27 Thread michele.curioni
Hi there,
has any progress been made in JBoss on this front?

Other vendors allow to use Workmanager from every component.

It would be good to have the same feature in JBoss.

Thanks,
Michele




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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-01-31 Thread oglueck
So we're left with managing our own threads? To be safe, I suppose we should 
perform a JAAS logon, manage a client transaction and use remote interfaces 
only, basically acting like an application client.

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-01-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anonymous wrote : 
  | What is the recommendation to start/manage background worker threads in 
JBoss 4.0.x? 
  | 

There is nothing to prevent you from developing a custom MBean that uses 
threads or a thread pool to preform background tasks. Simple wrap your 
Runnable/Thread stuff in an MBean and that's that. Also, JMX is nice for 
configuration/management as well. This would be my suggestion.

You could develop a custom JCA adapter that's sole purpose is to give EJB and 
Servlets access to the WorkManagement API but this is a bit heavy when a simple 
MBean would really suffice. 

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-01-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best of luck ;-) 

As far as the 

anonymous wrote : 
  |  Can anybody tell me in what kind of security and transaction context the 
work thread will run?
  | 

The answer is that it will be unspecified being that the WorkManager API is 
meant to be consumed solely from a ResourceAdapter which would have it's own 
transaction/security context. In other words, it is unknown and there are no 
guarantees because this is a non standard use of the API. 






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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean (worker threads)

2007-01-31 Thread lpmon
Thank You Weston.

Then let me ask the more generic question:

What is the recommendation to start/manage background worker threads in JBoss 
4.0.x?

Using JMS for a long running process seems to be discouraged  (like 5 minutes 
of background work)

I can implement a Runnable/Thread class and manage it myself but per J2EE 
protocol this is not recommended.  Threads are supposed to be managed by the 
app server.

Thanks in advance!

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-01-31 Thread oglueck
Portability is not much of an issue for me. We are quite committed to using 
JBoss, and moving to another appserver would mean lots of man-years of work 
anyway. So a JBoss-only solution that is available now is more welcome than a 
portable one that is not available. Anyway, JBoss specific code can always be 
wrapped behind a custom interface if portability is a real concern.

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-01-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Again, the WorkManager is reserved for ResourceAdapters (ie JCA deployments) it 
is not available via JNDI or to any other type of application component. 

The documentation link you posted is relevant to JCA not as a general solution 
for all application components.

Technically, there is nothing to prevent you from getting the WorkManager via 
JMX (as per the example below), but this is not standard and not portable. In 
other words, you shouldn't really be doing this. A generalized WorkManagement 
API has been submitted as a JSR (237)

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=237

However, it is currently in limbo right now due to legal disputes between the 
major vendors involved. 

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-01-29 Thread madhav_avm
   I have read that we can do parallel processing in J2EE Container using 
WorkManger API(JSR 237).But as per weston comment below,In Jboss Workmanager 
API is only for resource adapters.Can anyone please suggest me how we can do 
parallel processing in JBoss J2EE Container.

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-01-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The WorkManager is reserved for ResourceAdapters and is not applicable to other 
EE components (Servlets/EJB). At this point, there is no generalized notion of 
a WorkManagement API across the entire application environment. A JSR has been 
submitted but there is no work currently being done on it. 

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[jboss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: How to get a WorkManager from a Bean

2007-01-05 Thread oglueck
As there is no documentation on WorkManager at all it would be very nice of the 
JBoss people to at least respond to forum postings. Can anybody tell me in what 
kind of security and transaction context the work thread will run? E.g. will 
the task have to authenticate for EJB calls?

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