[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-02-23 Thread timfox
The MDB container / JCA layer also has its own DLQ - this is configured 
(normally) in standard-jboss.xml.

This will take precedence over the jboss messaging DLQ - you would need to turn 
this off, or maybe you want to use it.


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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-02-26 Thread imaeses
Thanks for your reply. I see that MDBConfig in the proxy-factory-config for the 
invoker proxy takes precedence. However, I still see no way to configure the 
*delay* between message redeliveries. Is this still possible to configure?

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-02-27 Thread imaeses
Perhaps it would be helpful to explain *why* the delay is necessary. Again, the 
current situation is that if a message is delivered to an MDB and the 
transaction is rolled back, the message is immediately and repeatedly 
redelivered until the maximum amount of times has been reached.

We have two MDB's. Let's call them A and B. A reacts to an incoming message and 
performs an action that results in an eventual message to B. The amount of time 
that passes between A's action and the eventual arrival of a message to B is 
unquantifiable. Therefore, it is possible (and indeed likely in certain cases) 
that the message to B arrives before A's onMessage() completes. 

In this case, any data created by A will not be visible to B since its 
transaction is still open. B cannot complete its work until it has this 
information available to it. Detecting this situation, it manually rolls back 
the transaction. Once A's transaction has completed, B can complete its work.

Unfortunately, what happens now is that B's message is redelivered so quickly 
that A never has a change to complete before B's message is trashed. Although 
increasing the maximum amount of retries is possible, this is a poor solution 
at best since the application server wastes precious resources.

Therefore, I ask again: is it possible in JBoss Messaging to configure the 
message redelivery delay?

Many thanks,
Adam

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-02-27 Thread timfox
"imaeses" wrote : 
  | 
  | Therefore, I ask again: is it possible in JBoss Messaging to configure the 
message redelivery delay?
  | 
  | 

In 1.2, yes, in 1.0.1, no.

Have a look at the destination and server peer mbean config.

Queue/Topic:

  |
  |   The delay before redelivering
  |   RedeliveryDelay
  |   long
  |  
  | 

ServerPeer

  |
  |   How long to wait before redelivery, can be overridden on 
the destination
  |   DefaultRedeliveryDelay
  |   long
  | 
  | 

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-02-27 Thread imaeses
Hi Tim,

Thanks for the reply. Here's my problem: we aren't prepared to roll the 1.2 
version into production because it's not a general release yet. We'd prefer to 
use the 1.0.1 version since it is stable. However, this one feature is quite 
important.

Are you planning on enabling this feature in a SP release in the near future?

If not, could you give me a hint where in the code I should go to implement 
this myself.

Many thanks,
Adam

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-02-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.2.0 will go GA tomorrow. 

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-10-30 Thread timfox
"ctomc" wrote : 
  | I know that resending because of exception in onMessage is not part of JMS 
spec but as far as I know jboss messaging(and mq) support this behavior.

If a RuntimeException is thrown then redelivery should occur - this is mandated 
in the JMS spec 1.1, section 4.5.2.

If this is not happening, can you replicate this in a simple test case / 
example and we can investigate further?

Thanks.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-10-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is something I don't understand here, please forgive my intrusion:

Tomaz says that he uses MDBs. The RuntimeException is thrown from within  MDB's 
onMessage().

4.5.2 is about MessageListener's onMessage(), and actually the session's 
acknowledgment mode has bearing on the behavior. This is a different situation.

Tomaz, what EJB version are you using? 2.1 or 3?

Joining Tim in his request, could you please sent a test case that fails, or 
somehow guide us into replicating the failure?

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-10-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anonymous wrote : 
  | If a RuntimeException is thrown then redelivery should occur - this is 
mandated in the JMS spec 1.1, section 4.5.2. 
  | 

Sort of. As Ovidiu points out, this is a bit different situation if he is using 
MDBs. This is one gray area where the JMS spec and the EJB spec are not exactly 
in agreement. If an runtime exception is thrown in the context of of a 
transaction, no problems there. However, if the exception is thrown using a 
NotSupported or BMT the spec is less clear as the delivery of the message 
occurs in a 'unspecified transaction context. 

JBoss supports varying behavior depending upon version and whether or not you 
are using JMS/JCA.



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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-11-01 Thread timfox
Apologies - my head is in JMS world :)

If the JCA layer calls the message listener directly in the case of a JMS MDB, 
and handles the redelivery itself then this is really a question for Weston, 
not a JMS question, n'est ce pas?

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-11-01 Thread ctomc
Hi guys,

I have been out for little holidays 

I am using EJB3. And I will make some simple test case when I come to office 
tomorrow.

If you think that ejb 2.1 would behave behave differently I can try that also.


cheers,
tomaz

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-11-01 Thread timfox
H.

This

anonymous wrote : 
  | ERROR [MessageCallbackHandler] RuntimeException was thrown from onMessage, 
90625 will be redelivered
  | 

Tells me that the JCA layer/MDB container is *not* calling onMessage directly 
(since this is logged from JBM), therefore JMS semantics do apply, and we need 
to follow the JMS spec.

So, yes please Tomasz, please replicate in a simple test case/test program and 
we will investigate further.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We also have to find out what version of JBoss (unless I missed it) as well as 
RC* candidate of EJB3. Both are important in terms of JCA being used at all. 
Transaction attributes would be good to  know as well.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-11-02 Thread ctomc
Hi guys.
I can confirm that problem exists only when I use EJB3 MDB. 

Jboss is 4.0.5.GA with ejb3 implementation that came with it. :-)
all the configuration is default(only what messaging install changed it)

I have created a simple test case that i attached to issue 
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBMESSAGING-633




tomaz

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-11-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks.

I've scheduled it for 1.0.2.CR1. I'll try to take a look at the test case ASAP, 
and I'll get back to you on this thread if I have further questions.



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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-11-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If it is in fact the JMS/JCA adapter being used (this would be with EJB3RC9) 
let me know. There were some things added to support EJB3 that may be an issue. 

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2006-11-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Absolutely, thanks. 

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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-05-18 Thread Stephen.Campbell
Hi Guys,
I know its been a month since you all had this conversation, i was wondering if 
anyone ever got this to work. I downloaded Version 1.2.0sp1 yesterday and dont 
seem to be able to get the redelivery delay to work. I have posted my setup for 
the queue below.

Anyone have any ideas???



jboss.messaging:service=ServerPeer
 jboss.messaging:service=PostOffice 
3



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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-05-18 Thread Stephen.Campbell
ok set-up didnt appear quite as i was hoping but heres another go




jboss.messaging:service=ServerPeer 
jboss.messaging:service=PostOffice
< attribute name="RedeliveryDelay">3


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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-05-23 Thread timfox
This thread is a dupe of 
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[jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-05-23 Thread timfox
Locking it

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Re: [jboss-user] [JBoss Messaging] - Re: Message redelivery

2007-02-27 Thread Ovidiu Feodorov


1.2.0 will go GA tomorrow.

imaeses wrote:

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the reply. Here's my problem: we aren't prepared to roll the 1.2 
version into production because it's not a general release yet. We'd prefer to 
use the 1.0.1 version since it is stable. However, this one feature is quite 
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If not, could you give me a hint where in the code I should go to implement 
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Adam

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