[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
Hello Ed, Ronald I guess I am still not clear on what is supported in the way of visually defined hierarchical graph elements. So please bear with me here and consider the following rewording of my question: Suppose there are two (distinct, visually defined) graphs A and B of arbitary complexity, the first of which, A, produces some value which is required as input to the second, B. Then, with jBPM, is it possible to define a new (visually defined) graph: ? A --> B I believe this example is about as simple a case as I can concoct which clearly defines my question. Additionally, if the answer to the above is yes, then is it correct to presume that this kind of hierarchical graph definition may be continued to any depth ? Maurice View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4004915#4004915 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4004915 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
Yes, but the GPD does not support going in and out of 'nested graphs' (yet) and again... look at the testcases. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4004919#4004919 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4004919 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
Maurice, I think you're looking for a level of metadata that's not at all present in jBPM. A more general case of what you're looking for is a reusable node template, which has defined inputs and outputs that are bound in a given process definition to specific values (sometimes process variables, sometimes other things). Extending this, you might consider "stencils" (a la Visio) that are collections of such node templates that apply to a specific application domain. This is all blue sky - maybe Ronald will say whether there's any work being considered in this direction. You need to think carefully about whether a subprocess will do what you need. The fact that it has a separate process identity may complicate your life, depending on how you need to do things like externally monitor the process state. If you want to investigate the state of the outer process down to the states within the inner process, there's extra work involved. -Ed Staub View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4004018#4004018 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4004018 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
No problem... kukeltje (wel kukel, but that was taken on AIM years ago) has been my nickname for years, so I'm used to it. The testcases and examples are best seen in the source. If you look at cvs (http://fisheye.labs.jboss.com/changelog/JBPM/jbpm.3/jpdl) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4004014#4004014 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4004014 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
(An aside:) Ronald Forgive my gauche reply. I'm still not used the format of this emails-user-group system, and didn't notice your first name till after I had sent my reply on its way... Maurice View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4003985#4003985 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4003985 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
Hello Kukeltje Thanks for the response. Could you please point me to the example testcase, to which you refer. Maurice View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4003984#4003984 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4003984 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
they can be separately used. Look at the testcase to see how it is done. You can currently construct the subprocesses grpahically, but then they are processes. The GPD is not ready yet for going levels deeper, back up etc... View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4003972#4003972 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4003972 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
Hello Ed Thanks for replying. By graph nesting, I am asking: Can a discrete graph be encapsulated into a single reusable node component with inputs and outputs ? (No different than the idea of an electronic circuit which contains one or more integrated circuit chips, each of which itself contains a "sub-circuit" with input and output pins. Or, as in programming, where subroutine calls can be nested to any level.) If indeed, jBPM "subprocesses" constitute such a nestable functionality, are these only usable at the programmatic level or are they visually constructable with the graph designer, and subsequently reusable in other arbitrary graphs with appropriate "pin-outs" (inputs, outputs) ? Maurice Yarrow SplashNote Systems View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4003950#4003950 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4003950 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Question: hierarchical model (graph nesting) ?
There is subprocess support - but it invokes another process from a node. If you mean having multiple "pages" that can reference each other within the same process definition, I don't think it exists. I wish it were implemented too! If you meant neither of these, please clarify. -Ed Staub (another newbie, trying to help - please correct if I went astray) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4003856#4003856 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4003856 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-user
