[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-14 Thread estaub
Vipul,

Please start a new thread if you're going to start a new discussion.

The starter kit doesn't use jboss, and most of the docs don't talk about using 
jboss.  The starter kit includes a web application.  Get it running (without 
building, just as binaries), read the userguide.  Become familiar with what's 
on the wiki.  When still puzzled, search the forum (using Google).  Then, if 
you still have questions, post a question.

-Ed Staub

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-12 Thread vipul.gupta
Hi Simon/Others,

Can you help me to setup a project of using jbpm without jboss.
I am new to jbpm  and i am totally confused as to how to use it  without jboss, 
say in a web application of mine.

I will be greatful  for any help in this regards

~Vipul

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-11 Thread simonbaker
Thanks, those are very useful tips.  I'm just getting started with Eclipse 
after spending most of my time with JBuilder.

I'll check into attaching source to libs.  I've been adding projects instead to 
the build, for instance, the jbpm.3_BRANCH_3_1 project.  That seems to do what 
I expected, allows me to debug into jBPM, although I'm not completely clear on 
what Eclipse (or the plugin) does to the classpath when you add a project.  
Now, when you want to add source, such as Hibernate source, to a library, isn't 
it a challenge to locate the corresponding source and identify all the folders, 
etc?

Here is another question I have:  usually the jars needed to compile are a 
subset of the jars needed to run an application.  If you're testing you code 
under eclipse, what is a good way to set it up so you can keep those two sets 
of libraries distinct?




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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-11 Thread lachelt
Hi Simon,

Perhaps you've already gotten the answer you needed.

This can be a confusing aspect of Eclipse.  You can add any library to an 
existing project.

1) look at the current list of libraries for a project
 Project->Properties   Libraries tab

2) usually we use the Add Variable...
Either choose an existing variable that has the base path to the library, 
or start with Configure Variables... to add a New variable.  Then use the 
Extend... button to indicate which library.  Then later you can change the 
value of the variable (say when you install a new version of jBPM), and any 
library links that use the variable will reference the right place.

You'll find that that is also the place in which you can attach the source to a 
given library.  That let's you navigate into the library source code directly 
from your own source, using the nice Eclipse Ctrl-click feature (hover on a 
method or variable and press&hold Ctrl, then click to jump to the source where 
it is defined).


As for the question of creating a JBPM project out of a plain Java project.  
That is an aspect of Eclipse I'm not sure about.  I tried to do something 
similar in another context (convert Java project to a Flex project), but didn't 
come up with a way to do it.  But I bet there is a way.

  -Jon Lachelt


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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-11 Thread simonbaker
Thanks, much appreciated.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-11 Thread estaub
Simon,

Here's my list of externals, FWIW.  I haven't tested a lot, so don't be 
surprised if it's not complete.  Also, it depends a lot on what container 
you're running in.  This doesn't include console support.

  
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-Ed Staub

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-11 Thread kukeltje
Then I would suggest by starting to have a look at 
http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/v3/userguide/deployment.html first

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-11 Thread simonbaker
Part of chasing the small fish is trying to get in control of the tools I'm 
working with, a never ending process...

It's really the engine libraries I'd like to identify, the stuff we give the 
customer.

It looked to me that the JBPM Library has a lot of JBoss jars (and I hope the 
GPD jars are in their own place, not in the JBPM Lib) and maybe was to support 
the Cookie Monster example type of ap.  We're not using JBoss so no point in 
any jars specific to that.

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-11 Thread estaub
Simon,

The library is a reference to the JBPM runtime you configured when you created 
the project.

anonymous wrote : I'm trying to strip down to the minimum libraries needed for 
our JBPM application

You need to be clear on whether you mean in the GPD (Eclipse plugin) or the 
engine.

Frankly, this sounds unlikely to be important to you... do you really want to 
go after this?  You have bigger fish to fry, I  suspect.  If you're thinking 
about the engine, I doubt there's much to get rid of.  Hibernate alone is 
responsible for a lot of the dependencies, as I recall.  Start there.  

-Ed Staub

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM project, Eclipse, JBPM Library

2007-05-10 Thread simonbaker
Any thoughts on this?

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