[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication on specific Region

2008-02-05 Thread mircea.markus
Buddy reapplication cannot be configured on a per region basis. You can use two 
several cache instances to achieve this (each being one region, e.g., the 
caches that replicate can share a common transport/multiplexer)

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication

2007-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the info. Until it proves to be something different, I suggest you 
follow/join the other thread, and we'll track the problem from there.  I know 
the JGroups guys are aware of that thread.  This looks like a JGroups issue.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication

2007-08-22 Thread FredrikJ
JBoss Cache: 2.0.0 GA
JGroups: 2.5.0 GA

Your description sounds exactly like what is happening here.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication

2007-08-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What release of JBC and JGroups?

This sounds very similar to the situation discussed at 
http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=116104[/url] and 
[url]http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-4608.  The application gets a view 
change callback before the protocols lower down in the channel are aware of the 
new view.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication on Weblogic

2007-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anonymous wrote : 
  | 1) BuddyReplication only works in case of clustered environment? So If I 
have individual nodes which are not part of cluster then I can't use 
BuddyReplication? 
  | 

You don't necessarily need a "cluster" as far as WL is concerned.  They could 
be standalone servers.  You will need some form of load balancing and session 
affinity however, perhaps provided by an external load balancer (HW or SW based)

anonymous wrote : 
  | 2) With the same configuration, when I dont use BuddyReplication in my 
cache-config, still the contents get replicated. i.e Application-1 and 
Application-2 were able to see the cache contents at any point of time.
  | (Applications are deployed in two different AdminServers (not a part of 
cluster) but on single machine). Can you please tell us if that is right and 
how it replicated the contents when we did not use BuddyReplication and why it 
is not replicating the contents when we use BuddyReplication? 
  | 

WL "clustering" has no effect on JBoss Cache, even if you have 2 separate Admin 
Servers.  

Even with BR enabled, replication still happens - it is just that state is 
replicated to a backup region and not a primary region.  This is why you do not 
see it.

anonymous wrote : 
  | Is it mandatory to use sticky session for BuddyReplication to work?
  | 

If it is to be of any benefit, then yes.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication on Weblogic

2007-04-26 Thread vinayakkhamkar
Manik, Thanks for the reply.

The two nodes are not clustered (sticky session not configured) and I used the 
same configuration. I have few questions 

1) BuddyReplication only works in case of clustered environment? So If I have 
individual nodes which are not part of cluster then I can't use 
BuddyReplication?

2) With the same configuration, when I dont use BuddyReplication in my 
cache-config, still the contents get replicated. i.e Application-1 and 
Application-2 were able to see the cache contents at any point of time.  
(Applications are deployed in two different AdminServers (not a part of 
cluster) but on single machine). Can you please  tell us if that is right and 
how it replicated the contents when we did not use BuddyReplication and why it 
is not replicating the contents when we use BuddyReplication? 
Is it mandatory to use sticky session for BuddyReplication to work?

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication on Weblogic

2007-04-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anonymous wrote : 
  | But still the contents are not replicated, as in if application-1 puts some 
value into cache then it is not visible when accessed from application-2. 
  | 

Buddy Replication requires session affinity.  You won't see the contenst on 
app-2.  But it will be on app-2 as a backup so if app-1 crashes you will then 
be able to see it on app-2.


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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication on Weblogic

2007-04-23 Thread vinayakkhamkar
Thanks for the reply, now error related to Transaction lookup is resolved. 

But still the contents are not replicated, as in if application-1 puts some 
value into cache then it is not visible when accessed from application-2. 

But when I remove BuddyReplication configuration from the cache-config, 
everything works fine. Can you please advise on this? or give some more 
information as in how do we check from logs as how to see if Buddy is found and 
cache contents are accessed or there was no cache hit?

I have changed the logging to TRACE.  

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication on Weblogic

2007-04-23 Thread genman
Change 

org.jboss.cache.DummyTransactionManagerLookup

to 
org.jboss.cache.GenericTransactionManagerLookup

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication on Weblogic

2007-04-23 Thread vinayakkhamkar
I am using JBossCache-1.4.1.SP3 and weblogic9.2 on windows machine.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication and Replication Queue

2007-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is because by the time the replication queue fires, the buddy group 
membership may have changed.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not immutable.  +1 on making it immutable though.  

Been reading Goetz's book, have we?  ;)

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sure, that should do it. +1 on the convenience method -- give us freedom to 
change how things work later without breaking callers.

Is the BuddyGroup immutable?  Should be if we're exposing it. (Sorry, I'm being 
lazy.)

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would exposing the BuddyGroup in the RuntimeConfig suffise?  It would have a 
reference to the data owner as well as the list of buddies.  The primary buddy 
is the first buddy in the list; perhaps a convenience method 


  | Address getPrimaryBuddy()
  | {
  | return buddies.get(0);
  | }
  | 

could be added... 



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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Added http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBCACHE-950 for exposing this.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmm, I don't see anything in the BuddyManager class that allows a caller to 
find out this kind of information either.  That's a flaw.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread puggelli
You are right Brian, I forgot to post the configuration.


  | 
  | 
  | 
true
  | 
org.jboss.cache.buddyreplication.NextMemberBuddyLocator
  | 
5
  | 
  | numBuddies = 1
  | ignoreColocatedBuddies = true
  | 
  | 
  | 
true 
  | 
true   
  | false
  | 
  | 
  | 

this workaround should work fine only in case of numBuddies=1.

I don't have idea how to discriminate the first buddy to force the gravitation 
only on it.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread puggelli
Hi,
I wrote a workaround in the form of a TreeCacheListenener. Please let me know 
what you think about.


  | class Listener implements TreeCacheListener
  | {
  | private TreeCache cache;
  | private View view;
  | 
  | private static final Fqn backupFqn = new 
Fqn(BuddyManager.BUDDY_BACKUP_SUBTREE);
  | private static final Option option = new Option();
  | 
  | static
  | {
  | option.setForceDataGravitation(true);
  | }
  | 
  | private Vector getMembersLeft(View old_view, View new_view)
  | {
  | final Vector result = new Vector();
  | final Vector members = old_view.getMembers();
  | final Vector new_members = new_view.getMembers();
  | 
  | for(int i=0; i < members.size(); i++) 
  | {
  | final Object mbr = members.elementAt(i);
  | 
  | if(!new_members.contains(mbr))
  | {
  | result.addElement(mbr);
  | }
  | }
  | 
  | return(result);
  | }
  | 
  | private void check(Vector membersLeft)
  | {
  | for(int i=0, n=membersLeft.size(); ihttp://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4006387#4006387

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I read this real quickly, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but it looks like *each* 
buddy of the node that left will try to do the gravitation, rather than a 
"primary" buddy.  That will very likely lead to problems.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-25 Thread puggelli
Yes, this will solve the problem.

Any idea about when this feature will be available ?

thanks and regards
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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMO, this is an area where configurable alternatives would be useful, since the 
"network storm" problem is a real issue, as is the lower QOS that comes if the 
primary buddy doesn't automatically take over the data.

A couple of config options come to mind (option names I just made up with very 
little thought):

1) "primary-backup-take-ownership" boolean flag -- if true, the behavior 
Gianlucca is looking for occurs.

2) minBuddies -- indicates the minimum number of buddies a node has to have; if 
a node fails, the affected nodes check this to decide whether they have to 
elect a new buddy and/or take ownership (if they are the primary).

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-19 Thread puggelli
I used the word 'gravitation' also for backup data, may be improperly.

anonymous wrote : 
  | cache[1] also now sees /_BUDDY_BACKUP_/192.168.0.4_33266/three since 
cache[2] realises that it doesn't have a backup anywhere anymore, and hence 
assigns cache[1] as it's new backup node with it's state. 
  | 

This movement of the primary data that are without backup can cause a "network 
storm", but this is inevitable.
Why there isn't an equivalent movement for the backup  data that are without 
primary (e.g. /_BUDDY_BACKUP_/192.168.0.4_33266/one on cache[1]) ?

My major concern is not related to the "network storm" but to the fact that in 
case of multiple faults the cluster has information loss. For example: Let 
suppose that first the cache[0] dies and then after one minute also the 
cache[1] dies. In this case the data stored in the node /one is lost forever.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is no automatic gravitation done for the backup.  In your example, 
cache[1] always had /_BUDDY_BACKUP_/192.168.0.4_33266/one.  No gravitation 
necessary.

cache[1] also now sees /_BUDDY_BACKUP_/192.168.0.4_33266/three since cache[2] 
realises that it doesn't have a backup anywhere anymore, and hence assigns 
cache[1] as it's new backup node with it's state.


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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-18 Thread puggelli
Hello again,

the point 1) is clear, but I have some doubts about the point 2).

Let me divide the data stored in a cache in primary and backup. When a node 
die, to avoid network storm, the primary data is not automatically gravitated. 
If so, why the automatic gravitation is done for the backup ?
In fact in the example that I posted, the primary data contained in the node C 
or cache 2 (the node three) is automatically copied in the backup data of the 
node B (or cache 1).

And then, when a node die, the cluster is not 'homogeneous' anymore. Some data 
has a backup and some other don't. In this situation, without a specific 
application code that force the gravitation, another fault can cause 
information loss.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Correct, this is what is expected.

You need to 

1) enable gravitation explicitly if you want to pull data out of a potential 
backup scenario (this is necessary as a separate option to prevent calls trying 
to gravitate data for data that does not exist.  E.g., If I try 


  | String[] s = {"/one", "/two", "/three", "/four", "/five",
  | "/six", "/seven", "/eight", "/nine", "/ten"};
  | 
  | for (String fqn : s) cache[1].get(fqn);
  | 

I don't want expensive network calls (esp. if the cluster is big) to go out 
when looking for nodes four to ten.  

This is why when you know about a view-change event (perhaps by using a 
listener) you can execute gravitate calls.

2)  Gravitation should not happen automatically - only when a gravitation call 
occurs, and even then, only for the node being called.  This is to prevent a 
"network storm" when a node dies.  Let's assume each node has 1GB of data.  If 
a node dies, I don't want 1GB of network traffic of data being gravitated, 
since this may then kill other nodes or cause the network to be unresponsive.  

This is why this happens lazily, when a node is requested.

Hope this helps,
Manik

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-17 Thread puggelli
Manik, this is a test case that cover this use case:


  | public class BuddyReplicationFailoverTest extends BuddyReplicationTestsBase 
  | {
  | ...
  | 
  | public void testReplication() throws Exception
  | {
  | caches = createCaches(3, false, false, false);
  | 
  | final String[] fqns = { "/one", "/two", "/three" };
  | final String[] backupFqns = {
  | "/" + BuddyManager.BUDDY_BACKUP_SUBTREE + "/" 
  | + 
BuddyManager.getGroupNameFromAddress(caches[0].getLocalAddress()) + fqns[0],
  | 
  | "/" + BuddyManager.BUDDY_BACKUP_SUBTREE + "/" 
  | + 
BuddyManager.getGroupNameFromAddress(caches[1].getLocalAddress()) + fqns[1],
  | 
  | "/" + BuddyManager.BUDDY_BACKUP_SUBTREE + "/" 
  | + 
BuddyManager.getGroupNameFromAddress(caches[2].getLocalAddress()) + fqns[2],
  | };
  | 
  | caches[0].put(fqns[0], key, value);
  | caches[1].put(fqns[1], key, value);
  | caches[2].put(fqns[2], key, value);
  | 
  | dumpCacheContents(caches);
  | 
  | caches[0].stopService();
  | caches[0] = null;
  | TestingUtil.sleepThread(500);
  | 
  | dumpCacheContents(caches);
  | 
  | assertTrue("caches[1] should contain \"one\" and \"two\"", 
  |caches[1].exists(fqns[0]) && caches[1].exists(fqns[2]));
  | assertTrue("caches[1] should contain the \"three\" backup", 
caches[1].exists(backupFqns[2]));
  | 
  | assertTrue("caches[2] should contain \"three\"", 
caches[2].exists(fqns[2]));
  | assertTrue("caches[2] should contain the \"one\" and \"two\" 
backups", 
  |caches[2].exists(backupFqns[0]) && 
caches[2].exists(backupFqns[1])); 
  | }
  | ...
  | }
  | 

The first assertion fails. This is what is printed before the first cache kill:


  |  START: Cache Contents 
  |   ** Cache 0 is 192.168.0.4:33266
  | 
  | /one
  | /_BUDDY_BACKUP_
  | /192.168.0.4_33270
  | /three
  | 
  |   ** Cache 1 is 192.168.0.4:33268
  | 
  | /_BUDDY_BACKUP_
  | /192.168.0.4_33266
  | /one
  | /two
  | 
  |   ** Cache 2 is 192.168.0.4:33270
  | 
  | /three
  | /_BUDDY_BACKUP_
  | /192.168.0.4_33268
  | /two
  | 
  |  END: Cache Contents 
  | 

While this is what is printed after the kill:


  |  START: Cache Contents 
  |   ** Cache 0 is null!
  |   ** Cache 1 is 192.168.0.4:33268
  | 
  | /_BUDDY_BACKUP_
  | /192.168.0.4_33270
  | /three
  | /192.168.0.4_33266
  | /one
  | /two
  | 
  |   ** Cache 2 is 192.168.0.4:33270
  | 
  | /three
  | /_BUDDY_BACKUP_
  | /192.168.0.4_33268
  | /two
  | 
  |  END: Cache Contents 
  | 

The same as my original post.

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gianluca

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-17 Thread puggelli
Hi Manik,
unfortunately I don't have an unit test. But I will try to write it.

I had a look to the  testGravitationKillOwner() method. In it after the kill 
(stopService), the get method is explicitly called and then the data is 
gravitated to another node.
May be I'm wrong, but the behavior that I expect to have should happen just 
after the kill owner without invoking any methods. And it should happen even if 
the gravitation is completely disabled.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy replication behavior

2007-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are correct with what you expect, that is what should happen.  This is 
proved by the unit test BuddyReplicationFailoverTest.testGravitationKillOwner().

Just tried this and the test works fine.  

Do you have a unit test that shows the problem?



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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication and data consistency

2006-12-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thread for issue just mentioned:

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication and data consistency

2006-12-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you do a put with a local option, it won't replicate to anyone, so the node 
that did the replication will be out of sync with the buddies.

As to multiple nodes simultaneously doing a put on the same node, here's what 
happens. I'm assuming the node already exists.  

Assume no tx running.  The data in question is stored on server0 and it's buddy 
group.

1) You do a put() on server 1. Simultaneously a put() on server0.
2) DataGravitatorInterceptor.1 and DataGravitatorInterceptor.2 both see the 
node doesn't exist; fetches the node's data from across the cluster.
3) DataGravitatorInterceptor.1 and .2 take the data and do a put (not local).  
This replicates the data to its buddies. No tx, so no lock is held on the node. 
At this point there are three copies of the data -- the server0 group's, the 
server1 group's and the server2 group's.
4) DataGravitatorInterceptor.1 and .2 send a cleanup call to the cluster.  Any 
copy of the data not associated with the sending server's buddy group is 
removed.
5) The original puts go through.

The end result here will very much depend on how things get interleaved. With 
REPL_SYNC you could end up with a TimeoutException in Step 4 as server1 and 
server2 tell each other to remove the data and deadlock. Or server1 completes 
steps 3-5 and then server 2 executes steps 3-5, in which case server 2's change 
wins. Or both complete step 3, then server 1 completes step 4 (so the server 0 
and server 2 copies are gone), then server 2 completes step 4 (so the server 1 
copy is gone). Then the both complete step 5, resulting in 2 sets of data, each 
of which only has the key/value pair included in the put.

Now, if there is a tx in place:

The put() in step 3 is done in a tx, so a write lock will be held on the node 
on each server until the tx commits.  The put will not replicate until the tx 
commits.

The removes in step 4 will also not be broadcast until the tx commits.

The put in step 5 will not be replicated until the tx commits.

The fact that the WL from step 3 is held should make steps 3-5 atomic.  If it's 
REPL_SYNC, you have two servers trying to write to the same node, so it's 
possible when the tx tries to commit you'll get a TimeoutExceptio due to a lock 
conflict.  With REPL_ASYNC, the later tx will win; the step 5 put from the 
earlier tx will be lost.

But.. while writing this I'm pretty sure I've spotted a bug in the tx case.  
The step 4 cleanup call gets bundled together with the other tx changes and 
therefore only gets replicated to the server's buddy's, not to the whole 
cluster.





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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication and data consistency

2006-12-16 Thread mica
Is it for efficiency or corectness reasons?
i can imagine put with auto gravity option on as an atomic operation of 
subsequently:
get() resulting in gravity of data
put() performed 'locally'
than according to my understanding the get() has to remove the node from other 
servers when the dataGravitationRemoveOnFind set on true - that's where the 
question about the difference between INVAL and REPL came from.

Yet what if I invoke concurrently get() on 2 or more servers. Do I have any 
guarantees that at the end I will have only one main copy of the node?

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication and data consistency

2006-12-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Buddy replication should not be used in a situation where you're expecting 
multiple servers to be concurrently modifying the same node.  It's meant for 
use cases where one server owns the data.

Buddy replication combined with INVALIDATION doesn't make sense. Invalidation 
means, "I have the latest data; you may be out of date, so throw away your 
data." Sending such a message to a limited subset of the cluster doesn't make 
sense.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication

2006-10-19 Thread FredrikJ
Well, at least I don't have find it out the hard way now...

I'll guess I will start looking into other ways of propagating the state 
information needed through other channels, be it a second cache or something 
else.

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[jboss-user] [JBossCache] - Re: Buddy Replication

2006-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sadly mixing configurations for different nodes or regions of nodes is not 
supported at this time, although it is on the task list for some point in the 
future.

For now, perhaps two different cache instances may do the trick?  One set up 
with BR and the other not.  Not sure if this helps your use case any though.

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