[jboss-user] [jBPM] - Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to do this?

2013-08-01 Thread Sergey Kornilov
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Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to 
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You can create new process and use data of  bad process pass it automatic 
until needed stage.

or you can create proces what allow change data, what was prepared in another 
process
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[jboss-user] [jBPM] - Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to do this?

2013-08-01 Thread Thomas Setiabudi
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Hi Sergey Kornilov,

Thank you for your reply, Yes we have thought of that too, create another 
process to compensate the human error in previous process.

But then there is a concern where the two process will become separate process, 
and by looking at the original process we do not know the real time it takes to 
complete the process.

Unless there is a way to make the new process related to the old process?


Regards,
Thomas Setiabudi
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[jboss-user] [jBPM] - Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to do this?

2013-08-01 Thread Ashish T
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Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to 
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Hi Thomas,

Your issue is is same as in any application irespective of process I guess.  
I am currently only looking into Approve/Reject scenario as you might have 
other scenario as well.

Options
1)Ask user to select Approve/Reject  status instead of button and then submit 
button.  This allows user to avoid  quick submit.   
2) For addtional protection you can show the summery of data filled by user and 
then user finally submit.  

Even after user is doing wrong selection then you cant avoid it. 
Basically you want to awake the termnated/completed case again whcih I am not 
sure is a good idea.
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[jboss-user] [jBPM] - Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to do this?

2013-08-01 Thread Sergey Kornilov
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Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to 
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Re: But then there is a concern where the two process will become separate 
process, and by looking at the original process we do not know the real time it 
takes to complete the process.

you can add some parameters to new process when start it:

boolean isRestarted = true;
ListInteger previousProcessDurationSecond = [1,2...];

or you can keep InstanceId of aborted process. By this you can get Information 
when need it.
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[jboss-user] [jBPM] - Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to do this?

2013-08-01 Thread Thomas Setiabudi
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Hi Ashish T,

Yes I agree this kind of error does happen even without using BPM / JBPM.

Before we use BPM / JBPM, we can provide a feature for user to undo the last 
action and do it again (well, because the application knows everything that 
needs to be undone).
But now since we use BPM / JBPM, how do this kind of thing should be handled 
technically?


Regards,
Thomas Setiabudi
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[jboss-user] [jBPM] - Re: Process ends, but user wants to redo the last human task, What or How to do this?

2013-08-01 Thread Ashish T
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Hi Thomas,

Ok. got it. 
In such case lets say one person P1 has performed the task and  process moves 
ahead.  Now next person P2 in line has also perfromed the task.  What happens 
in this case?  Now P1 can not do anything or in you previous application it was 
possible to still chnage the decision or data?
Or  you applicatio new from 30 steps these there are 10 steps which need to be 
undone and you had written specific logic for it?



Regards,
Ashsih
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