[JBoss-user] [The Lizzard's corner] - Re: BusinessWeek - Oracle buying JBoss
Dave, I would be concerned with any purchase including Redhat. Oracle has a somewhat less than stellar performance record with J2EE engines. Their purchase would be to control the technology. BEA and IBM would have been better off to have bought and buried JBoss a long time ago. JBoss while profiting little has cost them BILLIONS. It is extremely difficult to justify purchasing a company to bury it though. Microsoft in the end may be the big loser here. RAMJ is a terrific stack when packaged with software...something like SugarCRM will be able to packaged a DVD ready to go..OS, servers, software, voila. Redhat could still be problematic in that they have to leverage the purchase of JBoss. While on its own, JBoss answered to the customers, now they answer to Redhat before the customers. Being public is a terrible burden and has buried as many companies as anything else. But, you are right Dave, Redhat has it in its interest to build up and promote and make JBoss stronger...Oracle has no such need. Mica View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3937496#3937496 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3937496 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [The Lizzard's corner] - Re: BusinessWeek - Oracle buying JBoss
Mr Scott Stark... Seems your full of shinola and lying to the users. This is no rumor that JBoss is selling outITS FACT! Since you said it was a rumor and now your caught...CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT NOW Mica Cooper View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3936309#3936309 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3936309 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [The Lizzard's corner] - GOOOOO Marc! GIVE REDHAT HELL!!!!
Mr. Anil, Regardless of Oracle, Red Hat, etc. We were talking about 'buying rumors' and trying to be coy about wording doesn't change that fact. Do the users not have a right to discuss the potential issues, implications, and ask questions??? I met Marc a couple of times and supported him from the start, and I know he has no problem speaking his mind, with a very clear, loud, sharp, and descriptive language. EXPECT NO MORE OR LESS FROM HIS USERS! GO Marc! GIVE REDHAT HELL Mica PS. One of the things that endears Marc to me is preciscely the way he speaks his mind and mows down people with FUD, Anil View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3936385#3936385 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3936385 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
RE: [JBoss-user] I need ammo. -WL SUX
Michael, This is currently BEA's top priority fix over all others. I know of no documentation except a voluminous amount on the private engineering db internal to BEA. It is a problem on all platforms but does not noticeably manifest itself except on windows. The reason is weblogic uses multicast for messaging in the cluster. Windows has a VERY small multicast buffer size. Other platforms allow you to change the size of the multicast buffer and alleviate communication problems. So one, BEA screwed up using multicast for messaging large amounts of data in a cluster. Other products like Gemstone have a much more mature cluster technology and do not need to message to stay in synch. Two, they are sychronizing much more data than they need to, up to 14meg has been measured. Talk about performance downer...that will kill a CPU when you have 4 plus instances all trying to talk at the same time. Mica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Micheal J Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] I need ammo. -WL SUX Windows 2000 scales just fine Fillip. Certainly the 32-CPU Windows 2000 Datancentre boxes represent much more _vertical_ scalability than 90% or more of businesses need or want I imagine. As for _horizontal_ scalability you can scale till the cows... More seriously, I am curious though about this problem with clustering and why it only applies to Windows. If WebLogic admitted there was a problem perhaps there is a link to some online description/notice? Micheal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Filip Hanik Sent: 30 March 2001 18:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] I need ammo. -WL SUX We've been trying to get an install of Weblogic51 up and running for 4 months! BEA has as of yet been unable to get it run either. They finally admitted that they have a SERIOUS problem with windows and clustering. two thinks to consider, JBoss doesn't offer clustering yet. So the statement is no good. Also, why not cluster on Unix boxes, since you want scalability, Windows is not going to offer it anyway :) :) ~ Namaste - I bow to the divine in you ~ Filip Hanik Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.filip.net ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
RE: [JBoss-user] I need ammo
Forget the dodos with no backbone who'll advise going with big names. Its a wonder they aren't using Microsoft. Use jBoss in your test environment and on your developers boxes. When you understand it, and its running smoothly, put it in production. If you have problems, then you can purchase a name brand. When you need more, like clustering and failover, go with a name brand. I talked to a rep at GemStone the other day with just this conversation. He wholeheartedly recommended this strategy. Mica Cooper -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:47 PM To: JBoss-User Subject: [JBoss-user] I need ammo All, I need help. I really need some references on who is using JBoss in production and to what scale. I'm meeting resistence on adopting JBoss at my company and really need this information to convince the nervous, uninformed, upper-upper management(CIO types) that this is the way to go. Thanks very much in advance, Bill Burke ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
