[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM books

2006-07-06 Thread jbpmndc
A Book on jBPM and Seam would help a lot.  
There are a lot of issues:  
When to use identity?; when to delegate security to the application container?.
When to store data in the process as variables?; when to store data in a 
database manually?

and so on


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[JBoss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Can Seam be configured to support JSP and Facelets in an

2006-07-06 Thread jbpmndc
I'm curious about this as well.  

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: dvd store .ear not deploying

2006-07-04 Thread jbpmndc
That did it.  I wasn't familiar with the Jems installer.  Thanks!

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: dvd store .ear not deploying

2006-07-03 Thread jbpmndc
I'm downloading jboss.4.0.4.GA-Patch1-installer.jar
typing java -jar jboss4.0*.jar
Choosing ejb3 
and still no luck
This time on my Linux box (3rd machine)

Is the JEMS installer something different?

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: dvd store .ear not deploying

2006-07-03 Thread jbpmndc
I think I typed paste twice...ignore the second one

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss Seam] - dvd store .ear not deploying

2006-07-03 Thread jbpmndc
I can't get deploy the dvd store .ear 

I'm using JBossAS with EJB3
I'm also using the installer (some people say this fixes the problem)

Everything is fine up to com.jboss.dvd.seam.Customer and then I get a 
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException error.

Any help is greatly appreciated.



  | 17:56:23,010 INFO  [Component] Component: customer, scope: CONVERSATION, 
type: E
  | NTITY_BEAN, class: com.jboss.dvd.seam.Customer
  | 17:56:23,041 INFO  [Component] Component: accept, scope: CONVERSATION, 
type: STA
  | TEFUL_SESSION_BEAN, class: com.jboss.dvd.seam.AcceptAction, JNDI: 
jboss-seam-dvd
  | /AcceptAction/local
  | 17:56:23,104 ERROR [STDERR] java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
  | 17:56:23,104 ERROR [STDERR] at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(
  | Native Method)
  | 17:56:23,104 ERROR [STDERR] at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(N
  | ativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
  | 17:56:23,104 ERROR [STDERR] at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invo
  | ke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
  | 17:56:23,104 ERROR [STDERR] at 
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:5
  | 85)
  | 17:56:23,104 ERROR [STDERR] at 
org.jboss.seam.util.Reflections.invoke(Reflec
  | tions.java:13)
  | 17:56:23,104 ERROR [STDERR] at 
org.jboss.seam.util.Reflections.invokeAndWrap
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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: New jBPM Getting Started Documentation

2006-04-05 Thread jbpmndc
I have had similar problems and have had to figure out some of the 
idiosyncracies such as this:  run.bat -c jbpm

It's a solid product that needs some polishing around the edges.

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Authentication to jBPM

2006-03-30 Thread jbpmndc
I've thought about authentication and authorization.  

It seems you can usually protect the system using authentication module for the 
existing application (e.g. JAAS, ACEGI).   But, if you are developing a highly 
sensitive system, you may want to add an additional layer of security.  With 
the additional layer, if someone can connect to the system and has processId's 
(highly unlikely), you can prevent the system from unauthorized activity.

In general, it seems you don't need the authentication and authorization that 
comes with jbpm.  My 2 cents.

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Difference between Process, SubProcess, Tasks

2006-03-29 Thread jbpmndc
A process definition defines a process.  In the process definition are task 
nodes that break that process into discrete units.  A task node can be broken 
down into individual tasks.

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: difference beetween swimlane,role and user

2006-03-29 Thread jbpmndc
This is just a minor comment about semantics: Why not call it process-role?  
'process role' is more intuitive then swimlane.  In fact whenever most people 
describe swimlane, they probable say it's just a process role.

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: JBoss is excellent, but JBPM Sucks

2006-03-23 Thread jbpmndc
Thanks for sharing ;)

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: when the AssignmentHandler be invoked

2006-03-20 Thread jbpmndc
"swimlaneInstance table and in taskinstance table are all "null"

I did the same thing and it worked for me.   What do you get when you call 
taskInstance.getActorId?

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: documentation & examples?

2006-03-15 Thread jbpmndc
A quick start is needed.

But, if you dig into the source code under jbpm.test, you will see a ton of 
examples.  

It even has one to one matching examples of how you would implement different 
workflow examples from this popular workflow pattern site:

http://is.tm.tue.nl/research/patterns/

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Graph Oriented Programming

2006-03-14 Thread jbpmndc
Graph oriented programming really cuts to the heart of a lot of problems 
enterprises are trying to solve.  The presentations in the Wiki section are 
great.   

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: ProcessInstance persistence from org.jbpm.db.JbpmSession

2006-03-13 Thread jbpmndc
jbpmSession is deprecated.  This may be your problem. 

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Any documentation about websale example

2006-03-10 Thread jbpmndc
 
I got up and running by creating an ant task that runs the websale.  I added 
this to the build.xml file.  


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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Some question of a Beginner in JBPM

2006-03-10 Thread jbpmndc
- I don't understand how i must intergrate an assignment of actor. What is the 
difference between taskInstance.setActorId() and and assignmentHandler method.

It seems to me in general using AssignmentHandler is cleaner.  The assignment 
of a task is separate from the execution of it.  But I believe they have the 
same effect.


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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: success stories to sell to management

2006-03-09 Thread jbpmndc
Thank you for that link.

My two cents:  A couple of prominently displayed success stories on the main 
JBPM page would help us developers sell the product to management.

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: success stories to sell to management

2006-03-09 Thread jbpmndc
I've worked with a Java vendor, and as far as getting up and running jbpm blows 
it away.

Pros
It's modular - jar
Database independent - uses hibernate
It's got great examples if you look through the test source code
It's got a gui that satisfies the business analysts - eclipse plugin
It's got the JBoss name behind it

Cons
Does anyone use it?


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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: JBoss Innovation Awards

2006-03-09 Thread jbpmndc
Drupal showcase is an example

http://drupal.org/forum/25



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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: JBoss Innovation Awards

2006-03-09 Thread jbpmndc
I mean share it with the community.  Make a post in the wiki or the forum about 
a successful implementation.  

A product can be really good, but if I can't tell management it's being used, I 
can't get authorization to use it.

Example of a community sharing success stories:
I use Drupal as well and it has a great community.  People are frequently 
sharing information about successful implementations:

http://drupal.org/tracker

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: JBoss Innovation Awards

2006-03-09 Thread jbpmndc
Better yet, why don't you share it with the community now?


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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: success stories to sell to management

2006-03-09 Thread jbpmndc
hmmm.. not one response for a day ..too bad... 

If I was to bet money, I'd say Microsoft is going to trounce the workflow 
market:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/building/workflow/default.aspx

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: success stories to sell to management

2006-03-09 Thread jbpmndc
Nothing needs to be specific.  Just some general statements would help.

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - success stories to sell to management

2006-03-08 Thread jbpmndc
I'm becoming a big fan of jbpm, but it can be difficult to sell to management 
without some success stories.


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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Changing Source/ Target of a Transition

2006-03-08 Thread jbpmndc
I've deleted and added a new one.  Not sure if this is the best solution, but 
it works.

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM and rules engine integration: CFE

2006-03-07 Thread jbpmndc
Example scenarios dealing with the identity component may be useful.  

It seems to integrate jbpm into a legacy application it's easier to discard the 
jbpm identity component.  If I want to limit access to an jbpm action in a 
legacy application, I protect the method based on an a role in an existing rbac 
system.  From my perspective it appears a lot easier that way.  But what are 
some example scenarios where you really need the jbpm identity component? 

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM and rules engine integration: CFE

2006-03-07 Thread jbpmndc
An example section in the wiki with real world scenarios and the code used to 
proces a jpdl would be useful.  

For those that don't know the source code has some great examples (jbpm.test).  

Slightly off topic: Does anyone know why you would use 
processInstance.signal(), instead of taskInstance.signal() or instead of 
taskInstance.end().  They all transition to the next node.  But I don't know 
why you would use one over another.  But I know taskInstance.end() closes the 
task, therefore I prefer that one.  An explanation of that would help ;)



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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Comparision matrix for jBPM

2006-03-02 Thread jbpmndc
Try this one more time


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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Comparision matrix for jBPM

2006-03-02 Thread jbpmndc
To get started download the starter kit.  run ant.  Then run the Junit test for 
Websale.

1. create an ant task for websale.







 

  

2. You need to comment out this line in WebSale
//assertEquals(0, taskInstance.getVariables().size());

3. set test.classpath like this:

 







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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Comparision matrix for jBPM

2006-03-02 Thread jbpmndc
To get started download the starter kit.  run ant.  Then run the Junit test for 
Websale.

1. create an ant task for websale.







 

  

2. You need to comment out this line in WebSale
//assertEquals(0, taskInstance.getVariables().size());

3. set test.classpath like this:

 







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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Spring is in the air

2006-02-28 Thread jbpmndc
You can view the latest Spring code in CVS
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/springframework/spring-projects/spring-jbpm/

There is a JBPMTemplate class that seems similar to HibernateTemplate

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - 3 ways to transition: processInstance.signal, token.signal,

2006-02-24 Thread jbpmndc
There are 3 ways to transition to another node: 
* processInstance.signal("somewhere") 
* token.signal("somewhere")
* taskInstance.end("somewhere")

Why so many ways?  

I like taskInstance.end("somewhere"), because it ends the task.   The signal 
just moves from one to another.  I don't believe it "ends" a task.

Any thoughts?

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Does anyone know of a jbpm book in the works?

2006-01-05 Thread jbpmndc
I think the whole concept of suspensed/persistent states and continuations and 
when it's useful and how to get started is of interest to more and more people.

Does anyone know of a good book that discusses these issues?  It would be great 
if it discussed jbpm as well.

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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: call for jBPM performance problems

2006-01-05 Thread jbpmndc
Tom,
   This is off topic.  But is there a book in the works?  I think there is a 
demand to see the value of jbpm and how to get started with it. 

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