Re: [JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

2004-03-26 Thread Vladyslav Kosulin
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So what do you guys think of CMR?  Is that advisable or should we keep relationships out of the container?
I would recommend to look at Delegation-Managed Persistence Pattern:
http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=43552&DE=1
It's much more general and elegant from OOD point of view than CMR, IMHO.
Vlad

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[JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

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So what do you guys think of CMR?  Is that advisable or should we keep relationships 
out of the container?

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[JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

2004-03-25 Thread ahardy66
The optimisation is basically just the caching that the container does. 

So if you have an application which uses lots of the same data over and over, yes it 
will be faster. 

But if you have an app that uses all sorts of different data without much re-use, then 
there will be no difference. Anyone disagree? The datasource is the same - database & 
JDBC - so actually the CMP is probably going to be slower, since CMP often makes more 
calls than you personally would program for any given situation when doing a BMP. 

Adam

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[JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

2004-03-24 Thread larry054
You're quite right Nickman. I didn't mean to change the subject. I was responding to 
"CMP is all you need to know" post. 

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[JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

2004-03-19 Thread nickman
But you did not ask which was most flexible, you asked which was fastest, and for a 
number of reasons, CMP is nearly always faster than BMP. 

JBossCMP is also very flexible. I was able to make it support a series of unusual 
constructs.

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[JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

2004-03-13 Thread larry054
Sorry Loubyansky, I don't quite agree. CMP is fast, but there are times when I can't 
make CMP do what I want. Some applications require the flexibility of BMP.

Larry

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[JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

2004-03-13 Thread loubyansky
JBoss CMP is all you need.

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[JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

2004-03-11 Thread rais
I just want to here what other peoples opinion.
is that true, that you should always use CMP?
What is fastest and why???

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[JBoss-user] [Beginners Corner] - Re: CMP vs. BMP

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So what is wrong with that answer?


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