SV: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in synch, reference I need ammo.
Ok, we are going to take another aproach to this one. Since we are using ejbdoclet (thanks Rickard!) to generate much of our code and xml files we are planning to write a wldoclet to plugin beside the jbossdoclet. And since we are running ejbdoclet using Ant we hope we are to be able to choose the deployment target when building, like following example: build jboss build wl /Lennart ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
RE: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in synch, reference I need ammo.
Develop that "plugin" sell it for $10 bucks through JBoss Group "write code, get paid" marc |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Penrose |Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:05 AM |To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' |Subject: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in |synch, reference " I need ammo". | | |Bill, | |We want to do the opposite, but we're not actually doing it yet: we would |like to develop under WebLogic, and eventually deploy under both WebLogic |and JBoss. | |We have determined that we need clustering and fail over, so it looks like |JBoss is out for now. But when JBoss supports that, we'll jump on it. | |My question is this: is there a way to keep the app-server-specific |deployment descriptors in synch through some sort of tool? Is there a |migration tool that maps WebLogic Deployment Descriptors to JBoss's, or |vice-versa? How do you update your WL DDs? | |Regards, |John | |John Penrose |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |-Original Message- |From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:25 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] I need ammo. | | |Peter, | |We're not in production yet, but we are in beta. We originally started |working and developing with Weblogic 5.1 about a year ago and actually |went into beta with it. Recently, about a month ago, because of serious |budgetary constraints, we ported from Weblogic to JBoss and have been |using it ever since. Now, budgetary constraints have been lifted and |upper management is thinking of going back to using Weblogic. I have |been fighting furiously against this. Not only do I think that JBoss |could potentially become a superior product(in many ways, it already |is!), but IMHO, OpenSource has serious long term advantages that can't |be overlooked. | |In the meantime, I'm keeping a parallel nightly build going with |Weblogic so that if we need to (or if forced to :-( ), we can switch |back to WebLogic. | |IMHO, I think we would be an incredible testimonial for JBoss, not only |because of the scale of our application, but also because we moved from |Weblogic. | |Regards, |Bill | |Peter Routtier-Wone wrote: | | You're a pearl, Bill. This is exactly the sort of stuff I need for the |promo | material I'm preparing - unsolicited from-the-trenches testimonial. | | It may help to point out to your employers that they have no guarantees | from the other container providers, and that JBoss gives them the ability |to | rescue themselves, which the other vendors don't. | | Point out that official support just means vested interest in maintaining | customer loyalty, and that if they want evidence of vested |interest Marc F | has bet the farm on the success of JBoss. | | If anyone can furnish either medium to large testimonial for Bill's use |then | I would also appreciate a copy. | | If not a production app, what about benchmark figures? TPc? | | Bill, would it help to remind your PHB that you can always switch to |another | container? | | | ___ | JBoss-user mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user | | | | | | |___ |JBoss-user mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user | |___ |JBoss-user mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in synch, reference I need ammo.
Just a thought, but, this sounds like a job for a "style" task in ant -- write an XSLT that will transform one vendor descriptor to another. -- Dewayne My question is this: is there a way to keep the app-server-specific deployment descriptors in synch through some sort of tool? Is there a migration tool that maps WebLogic Deployment Descriptors to JBoss's, or vice-versa? How do you update your WL DDs? ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in synch, reference I need ammo.
John, We just started having a parallel build of Weblogic and JBoss so we're still working out the kinks, but You can share ejb-jar.xml because that is a standard file. One of my colleagues has written some python scripts to convert Weblogic DDs into Jboss DDs. There is some hand editing of the XML still involved after you run the python scripts, but I'm sure that a little massaging of the python scripts could fully automate the process. Jamie? Bill marc fleury wrote: Develop that "plugin" sell it for $10 bucks through JBoss Group "write code, get paid" marc |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Penrose |Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:05 AM |To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' |Subject: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in |synch, reference " I need ammo". | | |Bill, | |We want to do the opposite, but we're not actually doing it yet: we would |like to develop under WebLogic, and eventually deploy under both WebLogic |and JBoss. | |We have determined that we need clustering and fail over, so it looks like |JBoss is out for now. But when JBoss supports that, we'll jump on it. | |My question is this: is there a way to keep the app-server-specific |deployment descriptors in synch through some sort of tool? Is there a |migration tool that maps WebLogic Deployment Descriptors to JBoss's, or |vice-versa? How do you update your WL DDs? | |Regards, |John | |John Penrose |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |-Original Message- |From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:25 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] I need ammo. | | |Peter, | |We're not in production yet, but we are in beta. We originally started |working and developing with Weblogic 5.1 about a year ago and actually |went into beta with it. Recently, about a month ago, because of serious |budgetary constraints, we ported from Weblogic to JBoss and have been |using it ever since. Now, budgetary constraints have been lifted and |upper management is thinking of going back to using Weblogic. I have |been fighting furiously against this. Not only do I think that JBoss |could potentially become a superior product(in many ways, it already |is!), but IMHO, OpenSource has serious long term advantages that can't |be overlooked. | |In the meantime, I'm keeping a parallel nightly build going with |Weblogic so that if we need to (or if forced to :-( ), we can switch |back to WebLogic. | |IMHO, I think we would be an incredible testimonial for JBoss, not only |because of the scale of our application, but also because we moved from |Weblogic. | |Regards, |Bill | |Peter Routtier-Wone wrote: | | You're a pearl, Bill. This is exactly the sort of stuff I need for the |promo | material I'm preparing - unsolicited from-the-trenches testimonial. | | It may help to point out to your employers that they have no guarantees | from the other container providers, and that JBoss gives them the ability |to | rescue themselves, which the other vendors don't. | | Point out that official support just means vested interest in maintaining | customer loyalty, and that if they want evidence of vested |interest Marc F | has bet the farm on the success of JBoss. | | If anyone can furnish either medium to large testimonial for Bill's use |then | I would also appreciate a copy. | | If not a production app, what about benchmark figures? TPc? | | Bill, would it help to remind your PHB that you can always switch to |another | container? | | | ___ | JBoss-user mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user | | | | | | |___ |JBoss-user mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user | |___ |JBoss-user mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
RE: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in synch, reference I need ammo.
Title: RE: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in synch, reference I need ammo. John P., We are building under jBoss and will deploy under jBoss but we also have customers who are existing WebLogic and Inprise customers who are going to host the application themselves. Our approach was to create our own bean descriptor in XML and to apply style sheets to produce all of the necessary output. For example, apply an ejb-jar.jboss.xsl to all of our descriptors (1 per bean) and create a consoldidated ejb-jar.xml output file. The same was done for the jboss and jaws descriptors to support Oracle and InterBase. Other vendor specific descriptors are handled using the same mechanism. The finder support requires additional work because of the format of the declaration and arguments to each of the servers differs. Inprise uses findByAccount( Integer account ) with a where of account_id = :account vs. jBoss of findByAccount with account = {0}. Now, it is certainly not as elegant as the plug-in the mark suggested but it works for us. We'll be creating a Task in Ant and will make it an integrated part of our build process when time permits. John M. -Original Message- From: John Penrose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:05 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in synch, reference I need ammo. Bill, We want to do the opposite, but we're not actually doing it yet: we would like to develop under WebLogic, and eventually deploy under both WebLogic and JBoss. We have determined that we need clustering and fail over, so it looks like JBoss is out for now. But when JBoss supports that, we'll jump on it. My question is this: is there a way to keep the app-server-specific deployment descriptors in synch through some sort of tool? Is there a migration tool that maps WebLogic Deployment Descriptors to JBoss's, or vice-versa? How do you update your WL DDs? Regards, John John Penrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] I need ammo. Peter, We're not in production yet, but we are in beta. We originally started working and developing with Weblogic 5.1 about a year ago and actually went into beta with it. Recently, about a month ago, because of serious budgetary constraints, we ported from Weblogic to JBoss and have been using it ever since. Now, budgetary constraints have been lifted and upper management is thinking of going back to using Weblogic. I have been fighting furiously against this. Not only do I think that JBoss could potentially become a superior product(in many ways, it already is!), but IMHO, OpenSource has serious long term advantages that can't be overlooked. In the meantime, I'm keeping a parallel nightly build going with Weblogic so that if we need to (or if forced to :-( ), we can switch back to WebLogic. IMHO, I think we would be an incredible testimonial for JBoss, not only because of the scale of our application, but also because we moved from Weblogic. Regards, Bill Peter Routtier-Wone wrote: You're a pearl, Bill. This is exactly the sort of stuff I need for the promo material I'm preparing - unsolicited from-the-trenches testimonial. It may help to point out to your employers that they have no guarantees from the other container providers, and that JBoss gives them the ability to rescue themselves, which the other vendors don't. Point out that official support just means vested interest in maintaining customer loyalty, and that if they want evidence of vested interest Marc F has bet the farm on the success of JBoss. If anyone can furnish either medium to large testimonial for Bill's use then I would also appreciate a copy. If not a production app, what about benchmark figures? TPc? Bill, would it help to remind your PHB that you can always switch to another container? ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Keeping WL and JBoss Deployment Descriptors in synch, reference I need ammo.
I'm ready to share the conversion scripts, but need to put disclaimer for our company in them. I've been searching around the web, but haven't found a decent one. Any of you guys have a decent generic disclaimer I can put in so I can send these up? Thanks, Jamie Orchard-Hays - Original Message - One of my colleagues has written some python scripts to convert Weblogic DDs into Jboss DDs. There is some hand editing of the XML still involved after you run the python scripts, but I'm sure that a little massaging of the python scripts could fully automate the process. Jamie? Bill ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user