Re: [JBoss-user] Slightly Off-Topic: Java on Solaris

2001-05-11 Thread Davide Mora


 Anyway, I'm wondering how much better Java is on the
 Sparc/Solaris vs.
 Linux/Intel.

one of our customers moved from w2000 servers to
sparc/solaris. for what i know under solaris (and
other unix in general) java work worse than
windows/linux, checkout this benchmark:

http://www.volano.com/report.html

for what i know (i didnt follow personally the tests)
there are also problems on the usage of the CPUs in a
multiprocessor system.

maybe somebody else had a better experience?

Davide

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Re: [JBoss-user] Slightly Off-Topic: Java on Solaris

2001-05-11 Thread danch (Dan Christopherson)

Davide Mora wrote:

Anyway, I'm wondering how much better Java is on the
Sparc/Solaris vs.
Linux/Intel.

 
 one of our customers moved from w2000 servers to
 sparc/solaris. for what i know under solaris (and
 other unix in general) java work worse than
 windows/linux, checkout this benchmark:
 
 http://www.volano.com/report.html


Actually those benchmarks tell me that the IBM VM is faster, and that 
most VMs are slightly faster under Windows than linux.


 
 for what i know (i didnt follow personally the tests)
 there are also problems on the usage of the CPUs in a
 multiprocessor system.


This was a historic problem with Unix VMs, caused by 'grean threads'. 
Sun's VMs for Solaris and Linux now both use native threads, so this 
isn't so true anymore.

With Linux, however, you'll hit scaling ceilings because of the thread 
model. Under Linux, each Java thread corresponds to a kernel thread, 
which is basically a process. This is a lot more scheduling load than 
the same software will develop under Solaris' thread model.

-danch


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[JBoss-user] Slightly Off-Topic: Java on Solaris

2001-05-10 Thread Hunter Hillegas

My question is off-topic so maybe anyone that responds should do so off
list...

Anyway, I'm wondering how much better Java is on the Sparc/Solaris vs.
Linux/Intel.

Those Sun Blade 100 workstations are pretty cheap and I'm curious about
getting one... Worth it?

Hunter


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Re: [JBoss-user] Slightly Off-Topic: Java on Solaris

2001-05-10 Thread Alexander Kogan

Hi,

All following is based ONLY on my/our experience:


1. usually java on Sparc/Solaris much faster then on Linux/Intel
   (actually I know that unix-vm group at Sun has spend a lot of time
to tune the VM performance)

2. usually java is more stable on Sparc/Solaris then on Linux/Intel
   (check number of Linux-specific bugs versus Solaris-specific)

3. java for Solaris is released a bit early than for Linux

Don't know about Sun Blade 100, my experience is based on whole zoo
of SunSparc 60s.

But, personally I'd prefer Compaq XP1000 with Tru64 (ex DigitalUnix).

regards,


Hunter Hillegas wrote:
 
 My question is off-topic so maybe anyone that responds should do so off
 list...
 
 Anyway, I'm wondering how much better Java is on the Sparc/Solaris vs.
 Linux/Intel.
 
 Those Sun Blade 100 workstations are pretty cheap and I'm curious about
 getting one... Worth it?
 

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