RE: [JBoss-user] Tradeoffs between Tomcat/JBoss vs. Tomcat/hancoded?

2001-10-02 Thread David You

Should be very similiar for both approach.
The development time for EJB may be a bit longer due to the difficult to
do testing.
If you did a good design the maintainability should be almost the same.
The design for tomcat/handcoded has a tendency to
be messy while most people follow J2EE blue print when doing EJB design.

David

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From: David M. Karr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 David == David You [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David I did both. Here are some experience.
David Tomcat/handcoded:
David Good performance(no RMI call), Do Database update yourself
only when
David needed.
David Handling caching yourself..good or bad depends on what your
programs
David look like.
David very difficult to do long transaction handling.
David Easy Unit Testing.

David Tomcat/JBoss
David internal JMS support
David Good transaction handling..
David Option to migrate to a Cluster supported Application Server
for
David fail-over..scalable..etc.

Two other issues: How about estimates for the ratio of development time
for
either approach?  How about maintainability?

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RE: [JBoss-user] Tradeoffs between Tomcat/JBoss vs. Tomcat/hancoded?

2001-10-01 Thread David You

I did both. Here are some experience.

Tomcat/handcoded:
Good performance(no RMI call), Do Database update yourself only when
needed.
Handling caching yourself..good or bad depends on what your programs
look like.
very difficult to do long transaction handling.
Easy Unit Testing.

Tomcat/JBoss
internal JMS support
Good transaction handling..
Option to migrate to a Cluster supported Application Server for
fail-over..scalable..etc.

david



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From: David M. Karr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:27 PM
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Subject: [JBoss-user] Tradeoffs between Tomcat/JBoss vs.
Tomcat/hancoded?


Has anyone estimated development time tradeoffs (and others) between a
web
application developed with Tomcat/JBoss, as opposed to
Tomcat/handcoded?
That is, a persistence layer implemented with EJB in JBoss, as opposed
to a
handcoded JDBC persistence layer?

Note that I have little interest in the latter, I'm just trying to find
convincing arguments for the former to bring sanity to a project I'm
committed
to.

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Re: [JBoss-user] Tradeoffs between Tomcat/JBoss vs. Tomcat/hancoded?

2001-10-01 Thread David M. Karr

 David == David You [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David I did both. Here are some experience.
David Tomcat/handcoded:
David Good performance(no RMI call), Do Database update yourself only when
David needed.
David Handling caching yourself..good or bad depends on what your programs
David look like.
David very difficult to do long transaction handling.
David Easy Unit Testing.

David Tomcat/JBoss
David internal JMS support
David Good transaction handling..
David Option to migrate to a Cluster supported Application Server for
David fail-over..scalable..etc.

Two other issues: How about estimates for the ratio of development time for
either approach?  How about maintainability?

-- 
===
David M. Karr  ; Best Consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004)


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