Re: AW: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

2003-12-05 Thread Vladyslav Kosulin
Christofer Dutz wrote:

After testing a while with several VMs We found out that BEAs Jrockit is by
far the best VM for usage with JBoss (Of course this is what we found out
for our Tests and is only an oppinion, so please don't shout too loud). Even
if it does cost a little for a production licence, the performance and
stability it provides is worth much more. 

Using this VM we were able to run the SPECjAppServer2002 benchmark in a 9
Node cluster under full load for over one hour. This is much more than we
could achieve with for example the Sun VM with 35min. This indicates that it
seems to handle the usual VM-trash a lot better. We could even monitor
absolutely constant Memory usage - a thing we could not say for the Sun VM.
I would absolutely recomend trying this.

Our Systems were all SuSE based Linux System on AMD machines.
Well, both IBM and JRockit have excellent performance tuning manuals, but 
according to my experience, both JRockit 8x and IBM 1.4 are unstable on RedHat 
7.3, as opposite to Windows and, I presume, to RedHat AS 2.1. That's why I 
stopped playing with them and switched to Sun. If next year we migrate to SuSE, 
I'll try again ;-)
The drawback of Sun is that for unknown reasons there is no good documentation 
on GC and memory tuning. Only few articles and forum messages. But we got approx 
30% increase after tuning. Cluster of 4 instances, 2 boxes (2 Xeon CPUs, 4GB, 
RedHat 7.3 each).

Vlad



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RE: AW: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

2003-12-04 Thread Rod Macpherson
BTW, did you try the -Xincgc option for continuous GC on Sun's JVM? That would 
probably give you the same results you were seeing in JRockit. Depending on how you 
configure each you may not be looking at an apples to apples comparison. 

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Macpherson on behalf of Rod Macpherson 
Sent: Thu 12/4/2003 7:21 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: AW: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux


"That's a pretty nice review..."
 
Yes, in fact I expected to see a link to the storefront that would net him 
some micropayments: a nickel per view:)  My only concern is that they are now under 
BEA's umbrella so the temptation to enhance or hobble when running or not running in 
weblogic is there. 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Peter Luttrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 12/4/2003 5:17 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
    Subject: Re: AW: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux



That's a pretty nice review. Does anyone else use JRocket on Linux? 
What are there experiences?

.peter

Christofer Dutz wrote:


After testing a while with several VMs We found out that BEAs 
Jrockit is by
far the best VM for usage with JBoss (Of course this is what 
we found out
for our Tests and is only an oppinion, so please don't shout 
too loud). Even
if it does cost a little for a production licence, the 
performance and
stability it provides is worth much more. 

Using this VM we were able to run the SPECjAppServer2002 
benchmark in a 9
Node cluster under full load for over one hour. This is much 
more than we
could achieve with for example the Sun VM with 35min. This 
indicates that it
seems to handle the usual VM-trash a lot better. We could even 
monitor
absolutely constant Memory usage - a thing we could not say 
for the Sun VM.

I would absolutely recomend trying this.

Our Systems were all SuSE based Linux System on AMD machines.

Christofer Dutz

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Felipe
Oliveira
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 22:20
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

hi peter,

i run jboss in the same exactly environment, but i don't seem 
to be 
running into these problems.
we found the ibm jvm to be the best for our scenario...maybe 
you should 
take a look at it.

felipe

Peter Luttrell wrote:

  

We're using JBoss3.2.1 with Jetty on RedHat 9 with 
Suns 1.4.2_01 vm. 
We have a pretty heavy load.

After roughly a week many of the boxes start to 
experience weird 
problems where JBoss is unable to get what looks to be 
socket 
connections. In some cases, we cannot contact our 
mailserver, in other 
cases we cannot contact our database; in the latest 
case we're unable 
to get a connection to the local jndi server 
(localhost:1099). 
Sometimes a simple restart of jboss will sometimes 
solves the 
problems, othertimes we have to restart linux. The 
times of the 
crashes are roughly 4am and sometimes 6am, so it's 
likely caused by a 
cron job running at those times, which we're currently 
looking into. 
Has anyone experienced similar problems?
.peter



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RE: AW: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

2003-12-04 Thread Rod Macpherson
"That's a pretty nice review..."
 
Yes, in fact I expected to see a link to the storefront that would net him some 
micropayments: a nickel per view:)  My only concern is that they are now under BEA's 
umbrella so the temptation to enhance or hobble when running or not running in 
weblogic is there. 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Peter Luttrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 12/4/2003 5:17 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: AW: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux



That's a pretty nice review. Does anyone else use JRocket on Linux? What are 
there experiences?

.peter

Christofer Dutz wrote:


After testing a while with several VMs We found out that BEAs Jrockit 
is by
far the best VM for usage with JBoss (Of course this is what we found 
out
for our Tests and is only an oppinion, so please don't shout too 
loud). Even
if it does cost a little for a production licence, the performance and
stability it provides is worth much more. 

Using this VM we were able to run the SPECjAppServer2002 benchmark in 
a 9
Node cluster under full load for over one hour. This is much more than 
we
could achieve with for example the Sun VM with 35min. This indicates 
that it
seems to handle the usual VM-trash a lot better. We could even monitor
absolutely constant Memory usage - a thing we could not say for the 
Sun VM.

I would absolutely recomend trying this.

Our Systems were all SuSE based Linux System on AMD machines.

Christofer Dutz

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Felipe
Oliveira
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 22:20
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

hi peter,

i run jboss in the same exactly environment, but i don't seem to be 
running into these problems.
we found the ibm jvm to be the best for our scenario...maybe you 
should 
take a look at it.

felipe

Peter Luttrell wrote:

  

We're using JBoss3.2.1 with Jetty on RedHat 9 with Suns 
1.4.2_01 vm. 
We have a pretty heavy load.

After roughly a week many of the boxes start to experience 
weird 
problems where JBoss is unable to get what looks to be socket 
connections. In some cases, we cannot contact our mailserver, 
in other 
cases we cannot contact our database; in the latest case we're 
unable 
to get a connection to the local jndi server (localhost:1099). 
Sometimes a simple restart of jboss will sometimes solves the 
problems, othertimes we have to restart linux. The times of 
the 
crashes are roughly 4am and sometimes 6am, so it's likely 
caused by a 
cron job running at those times, which we're currently looking 
into. 
Has anyone experienced similar problems?
.peter



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Re: AW: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

2003-12-04 Thread Peter Luttrell




That's a pretty nice review. Does anyone else use JRocket on Linux?
What are there experiences?

.peter

Christofer Dutz wrote:

  After testing a while with several VMs We found out that BEAs Jrockit is by
far the best VM for usage with JBoss (Of course this is what we found out
for our Tests and is only an oppinion, so please don't shout too loud). Even
if it does cost a little for a production licence, the performance and
stability it provides is worth much more. 

Using this VM we were able to run the SPECjAppServer2002 benchmark in a 9
Node cluster under full load for over one hour. This is much more than we
could achieve with for example the Sun VM with 35min. This indicates that it
seems to handle the usual VM-trash a lot better. We could even monitor
absolutely constant Memory usage - a thing we could not say for the Sun VM.

I would absolutely recomend trying this.

Our Systems were all SuSE based Linux System on AMD machines.

Christofer Dutz

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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Felipe
Oliveira
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 22:20
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

hi peter,

i run jboss in the same exactly environment, but i don't seem to be 
running into these problems.
we found the ibm jvm to be the best for our scenario...maybe you should 
take a look at it.

felipe

Peter Luttrell wrote:

  
  
We're using JBoss3.2.1 with Jetty on RedHat 9 with Suns 1.4.2_01 vm. 
We have a pretty heavy load.

After roughly a week many of the boxes start to experience weird 
problems where JBoss is unable to get what looks to be socket 
connections. In some cases, we cannot contact our mailserver, in other 
cases we cannot contact our database; in the latest case we're unable 
to get a connection to the local jndi server (localhost:1099). 
Sometimes a simple restart of jboss will sometimes solves the 
problems, othertimes we have to restart linux. The times of the 
crashes are roughly 4am and sometimes 6am, so it's likely caused by a 
cron job running at those times, which we're currently looking into. 
Has anyone experienced similar problems?
.peter



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AW: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

2003-12-04 Thread Christofer Dutz
After testing a while with several VMs We found out that BEAs Jrockit is by
far the best VM for usage with JBoss (Of course this is what we found out
for our Tests and is only an oppinion, so please don't shout too loud). Even
if it does cost a little for a production licence, the performance and
stability it provides is worth much more. 

Using this VM we were able to run the SPECjAppServer2002 benchmark in a 9
Node cluster under full load for over one hour. This is much more than we
could achieve with for example the Sun VM with 35min. This indicates that it
seems to handle the usual VM-trash a lot better. We could even monitor
absolutely constant Memory usage - a thing we could not say for the Sun VM.

I would absolutely recomend trying this.

Our Systems were all SuSE based Linux System on AMD machines.

Christofer Dutz

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Felipe
Oliveira
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 22:20
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss On Linux

hi peter,

i run jboss in the same exactly environment, but i don't seem to be 
running into these problems.
we found the ibm jvm to be the best for our scenario...maybe you should 
take a look at it.

felipe

Peter Luttrell wrote:

> We're using JBoss3.2.1 with Jetty on RedHat 9 with Suns 1.4.2_01 vm. 
> We have a pretty heavy load.
>
> After roughly a week many of the boxes start to experience weird 
> problems where JBoss is unable to get what looks to be socket 
> connections. In some cases, we cannot contact our mailserver, in other 
> cases we cannot contact our database; in the latest case we're unable 
> to get a connection to the local jndi server (localhost:1099). 
> Sometimes a simple restart of jboss will sometimes solves the 
> problems, othertimes we have to restart linux. The times of the 
> crashes are roughly 4am and sometimes 6am, so it's likely caused by a 
> cron job running at those times, which we're currently looking into. 
> Has anyone experienced similar problems?
> .peter
>
>
>
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