RE: Incremental java building..
Some people have been experimenting with invoking Ant via the bean shell JVM. Some patches have been submitted; I haven't tried the latest ones. You might want to search the archives on this subject. Steve Molitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:12 PM To: Molitor, Stephen Cc: JDE Mailing List Subject: Re: Incremental java building.. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Molitor, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you tried the new 'javac server' in JDE? Customize the variable jde-compiler, and select 'javac server'. It uses the bean shell to compile, which means that the JVM to compile is always running (essentially, 'always having a compiler running'). Compiling is virtually instantaneous, and javac will compile any dependencies (also instantaneous). It does automaticallly compile when you save, but that would be easy to rig -- just add a jde-compile call to the save hook. The compilation is not incremental, but most of the cost of compiling is starting up the JVM. Using an already running JVM, it's almost instantaneous. No real need for incremental compilation, IMHO. OK. I will play with this. The one thing I think is that for good incremental compilation the stats need to be exposed to the user. Need to thing of a good UI here.. One caveat: In the current version of JDE, the javac server is not completely compatible with JDEBug. You might not be able to debug stuff compiled with javac server. When that happens, I recompile with the normal 'javac executable' option and debug. snip Seems like a good idea to be able to use jde-make or je-ant along with it. - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web - http://relativity.yi.org/ The worse thing in life is to fall short! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Get my public key at: http://relativity.yi.org/pgpkey.txt iD8DBQE77bPFAwM6xb2dfE0RAm41AKCGc5uCmtHs67gSuwVQVEoIGbLNQQCgo6O3 8yWIYqnmna1WWcA/Owcr1i4= =hlCo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: Incremental java building..
If you configure the variable compilation-ask-about-save to nil, whenever you compile the current buffer gets save automatically, so no need to save. But if you want the other way around, adding a hook to the save works as well. Javier -Original Message- From: Molitor, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:22 PM To: Molitor, Stephen; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: JDE Mailing List Subject: RE: Incremental java building.. Just read my first message, made a typo. Correction: the JDE does NOT automatically compile when saving, but it would be easy to implement that feature. Steve Molitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Molitor, Stephen Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:20 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: JDE Mailing List Subject: RE: Incremental java building.. Some people have been experimenting with invoking Ant via the bean shell JVM. Some patches have been submitted; I haven't tried the latest ones. You might want to search the archives on this subject. Steve Molitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:12 PM To: Molitor, Stephen Cc: JDE Mailing List Subject: Re: Incremental java building.. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Molitor, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you tried the new 'javac server' in JDE? Customize the variable jde-compiler, and select 'javac server'. It uses the bean shell to compile, which means that the JVM to compile is always running (essentially, 'always having a compiler running'). Compiling is virtually instantaneous, and javac will compile any dependencies (also instantaneous). It does automaticallly compile when you save, but that would be easy to rig -- just add a jde-compile call to the save hook. The compilation is not incremental, but most of the cost of compiling is starting up the JVM. Using an already running JVM, it's almost instantaneous. No real need for incremental compilation, IMHO. OK. I will play with this. The one thing I think is that for good incremental compilation the stats need to be exposed to the user. Need to thing of a good UI here.. One caveat: In the current version of JDE, the javac server is not completely compatible with JDEBug. You might not be able to debug stuff compiled with javac server. When that happens, I recompile with the normal 'javac executable' option and debug. snip Seems like a good idea to be able to use jde-make or je-ant along with it. - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web - http://relativity.yi.org/ The worse thing in life is to fall short! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Get my public key at: http://relativity.yi.org/pgpkey.txt iD8DBQE77bPFAwM6xb2dfE0RAm41AKCGc5uCmtHs67gSuwVQVEoIGbLNQQCgo6O3 8yWIYqnmna1WWcA/Owcr1i4= =hlCo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: Incremental java building..
The new beta includes the option to use Ant server(customize jde-ant-invocation-method), it uses the beanshell to call ant. It has been only tested with Ant 1.4, but it should work with 1.3 as well. Javier -Original Message- From: Molitor, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:20 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: JDE Mailing List Subject: RE: Incremental java building.. Some people have been experimenting with invoking Ant via the bean shell JVM. Some patches have been submitted; I haven't tried the latest ones. You might want to search the archives on this subject. Steve Molitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:12 PM To: Molitor, Stephen Cc: JDE Mailing List Subject: Re: Incremental java building.. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Molitor, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you tried the new 'javac server' in JDE? Customize the variable jde-compiler, and select 'javac server'. It uses the bean shell to compile, which means that the JVM to compile is always running (essentially, 'always having a compiler running'). Compiling is virtually instantaneous, and javac will compile any dependencies (also instantaneous). It does automaticallly compile when you save, but that would be easy to rig -- just add a jde-compile call to the save hook. The compilation is not incremental, but most of the cost of compiling is starting up the JVM. Using an already running JVM, it's almost instantaneous. No real need for incremental compilation, IMHO. OK. I will play with this. The one thing I think is that for good incremental compilation the stats need to be exposed to the user. Need to thing of a good UI here.. One caveat: In the current version of JDE, the javac server is not completely compatible with JDEBug. You might not be able to debug stuff compiled with javac server. When that happens, I recompile with the normal 'javac executable' option and debug. snip Seems like a good idea to be able to use jde-make or je-ant along with it. - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web - http://relativity.yi.org/ The worse thing in life is to fall short! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Get my public key at: http://relativity.yi.org/pgpkey.txt iD8DBQE77bPFAwM6xb2dfE0RAm41AKCGc5uCmtHs67gSuwVQVEoIGbLNQQCgo6O3 8yWIYqnmna1WWcA/Owcr1i4= =hlCo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Incremental java building..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Molitor, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you tried the new 'javac server' in JDE? Customize the variable jde-compiler, and select 'javac server'. It uses the bean shell to compile, which means that the JVM to compile is always running (essentially, 'always having a compiler running'). Compiling is virtually instantaneous, and javac will compile any dependencies (also instantaneous). It does automaticallly compile when you save, but that would be easy to rig -- just add a jde-compile call to the save hook. The compilation is not incremental, but most of the cost of compiling is starting up the JVM. Using an already running JVM, it's almost instantaneous. No real need for incremental compilation, IMHO. OK. I will play with this. The one thing I think is that for good incremental compilation the stats need to be exposed to the user. Need to thing of a good UI here.. One caveat: In the current version of JDE, the javac server is not completely compatible with JDEBug. You might not be able to debug stuff compiled with javac server. When that happens, I recompile with the normal 'javac executable' option and debug. snip Seems like a good idea to be able to use jde-make or je-ant along with it. - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web - http://relativity.yi.org/ The worse thing in life is to fall short! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Get my public key at: http://relativity.yi.org/pgpkey.txt iD8DBQE77bPFAwM6xb2dfE0RAm41AKCGc5uCmtHs67gSuwVQVEoIGbLNQQCgo6O3 8yWIYqnmna1WWcA/Owcr1i4= =hlCo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
