Re: [JDEV] help for storage module
hi, > I need to change XDB storage to oracle, where can I start? you can use xdb_sql (download.jabber.org/contrib) and add a backend for oracle. Benoit. -- Benoit Orihuela IDEALX S.A.S. ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] "Anonymous" GroupChat
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:28:32AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not really. There are IRC clients like this. The current 'Conference' > protocol does not work from the Java applet Jabber client, and all Jabber > client connections have to have an account --- you could pre-generate a > set of guest01-guest99 accounts, but you'd still need a flash/java/etc > client that would work with the conference protocol. I might be jumping in here out of turn, but Jer's been doing some work on anonymous stuff - I think it's in CVS. It might be relevant to this discussion... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Non english messages solution?
Hi, Is there any Non english messages solution? My Friend and I use winjabber to chat.But we use different encoding. One is gb2312, the other is big5.we can not see the messages each other. Thanks for any info. Regards, - Lg 2001-9-21 21:38:08 -- Gang Liu / Vista Team / ShenZhen City / China Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +86 13923425035 ICQ: 70670666 Web: Coming ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Roster Management from a Transport
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Hi,
As part of an R&D project, we have created a telephony transport that
lets users manage phone calls. They can make outgoing calls, accept
in bound calls, create audio conferences, redirect calls to voice
mail, screen calls, pick them up and so on. So for so good.
The telephony transport interfaces with a server system that provides
all of the telephony support as well as maintains information for
each user including an address book. The back end system is also
maintaining presence and availability for its user community. It
would be real nice to integrate the address book and presence
information from the back end system via the transport with the
roster and presence information that the user has available with
their Jabber client.
Ideally both the Jabber server and the Transport server would be able
to access common address book and PAM servers/services and this
problem would go away. But they don't as yet. The telephony system
makes the Transport aware of the user's address book entries and
presence info. The Transport in turn would like to hand that to the
Jabber Server on behalf of the registered user and have it magically
appear in the Jabber client for that user. Roster updates on behalf
of a user by the transport are blocked apparently for security
reasons. Makes sense. Presence information gets through and is
reflected by the client. Is there a legitimate way for a Transport
to modify/update/alter a user roster? Is there some other mechanism
that would make it possible for the Transport to set up and maintain
rosters that could then be accessed by specific user clients? Will
this require a Jabber Server module to work in conjunction with the
Transport?
Any and all pointers and help would be appreciated.
thanks
-mark
Mark Hahn | Verizon Laboratories
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Re: [JDEV] Roster Management from a Transport
On Fri, 2001-09-21 at 09:27, Mark Hahn wrote:
>
> {NOTE: this message may get posted twice (by me and by the
> moderator), the first time I sent it using my updated veriozon email
> address forgetting that I subscribed to this list using my older GTE
> email address..sorry}
>
> Hi,
>
> As part of an R&D project, we have created a telephony transport that
> lets users manage phone calls. They can make outgoing calls, accept
> in bound calls, create audio conferences, redirect calls to voice
> mail, screen calls, pick them up and so on. So for so good.
>
> The telephony transport interfaces with a server system that provides
> all of the telephony support as well as maintains information for
> each user including an address book. The back end system is also
> maintaining presence and availability for its user community. It
> would be real nice to integrate the address book and presence
> information from the back end system via the transport with the
> roster and presence information that the user has available with
> their Jabber client.
>
> Ideally both the Jabber server and the Transport server would be able
> to access common address book and PAM servers/services and this
> problem would go away. But they don't as yet. The telephony system
> makes the Transport aware of the user's address book entries and
> presence info. The Transport in turn would like to hand that to the
> Jabber Server on behalf of the registered user and have it magically
> appear in the Jabber client for that user. Roster updates on behalf
> of a user by the transport are blocked apparently for security
> reasons. Makes sense. Presence information gets through and is
> reflected by the client. Is there a legitimate way for a Transport
> to modify/update/alter a user roster? Is there some other mechanism
> that would make it possible for the Transport to set up and maintain
> rosters that could then be accessed by specific user clients? Will
> this require a Jabber Server module to work in conjunction with the
> Transport?
>
> Any and all pointers and help would be appreciated.
>
> thanks
>
> -mark
>
> Mark Hahn | Verizon Laboratories
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 40 Sylvan Road
> | Waltham, Ma. 02451
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Hey, this sounds like a really neat project. Sounds like you are going
to want a specific XDB module. It could be that it only handles a few
of the namespaces and let another one handle the regular user info. I
wish I had a doc to point to about this, but I don't =( If you have
more questions about XDB modules and how they work feel free to email me
or msg me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for both.
--temas
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Re: [JDEV] Non english messages solution?
On Friday, September 21, 2001, at 06:44 AM, Gang Liu wrote: > Is there any Non english messages solution? My Friend and I use > winjabber to chat.But we use different encoding. One is > gb2312, the other is big5.we can not see the messages each other. The Jabber protocol itself uses Unicode (UTF-8) which can handle any language known to mankind. The problem would be with the clients translating between the Unicode character set back and their own local encodings; not all platforms are good at this. (I understand that Windows NT and 2000 have good Unicode support, but not 95/98/Me.) So you should ask this same question of the WinJab developers. --Jens ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Conference messages cut off
On Thursday, September 20, 2001, at 10:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am also getting conference messages truncated, often at the first > byte > of a one-liner. Using JabberIM I will type something like: > > I see this problem too, looks like it is a bug in the server? > > And what the participants see and what I get echoed back is just: > > I I haven't seen this exact behavior. What I see is that messages get truncated at XML metacharacters ( <, >, ', ", &). In my client I preprocess messages to convert these to more innocuous characters such as curly quotes. --Jens ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] URL form of JID?
Is there a standard way to represent a JID as a URL (analogous to a mailto: URL)? The most basic form would be something like "jabber:user@host/resource" and the default action when clicked would be to send an IM to that user. It occurs to me that a second form would be useful for conferences / chat-rooms, since the behavior of clicking the URL would be different (joining the room.) AIM, I believe, uses a "?" attribute on the "aim:" URL to distinguish between these things. --Jens ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] URL form of JID?
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 11:48:52AM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: > Is there a standard way to represent a JID as a URL (analogous to a > mailto: URL)? The most basic form would be something like > "jabber:user@host/resource" and the default action when clicked would be > to send an IM to that user. I do remember seeing examples of this in very old docu, it was something like your example, it could have been jabber://user@host/resouce but then I might be going mad. > It occurs to me that a second form would be useful for conferences / > chat-rooms, since the behavior of clicking the URL would be different > (joining the room.) AIM, I believe, uses a "?" attribute on the "aim:" > URL to distinguish between these things. This is certainly an idea, but when you consider a conference room is just one of almost an infinite variety of types of things, each with their own "default" action, to attempt to make a distinction within the format is futile. That said, perhaps in a browsing situation, the type of thing that a particular JID represents may be easier to discern because of its context within an iq:browse structure... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] URL form of JID?
Whenever I represent a JID as a URI, I use jabber:user@host/resource - this was sort of agreed upon as a standard (originally you had to have jabberids like that, but they decided jabber: is not needed when within the protocol) Julian DJ Adams wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 11:48:52AM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: > >>Is there a standard way to represent a JID as a URL (analogous to a >>mailto: URL)? The most basic form would be something like >>"jabber:user@host/resource" and the default action when clicked would be >>to send an IM to that user. >> > > I do remember seeing examples of this in very old docu, > it was something like your example, it could have been > jabber://user@host/resouce but then I might be going mad. > > >>It occurs to me that a second form would be useful for conferences / >>chat-rooms, since the behavior of clicking the URL would be different >>(joining the room.) AIM, I believe, uses a "?" attribute on the "aim:" >>URL to distinguish between these things. >> > > This is certainly an idea, but when you consider a conference > room is just one of almost an infinite variety of types of > things, each with their own "default" action, to attempt to make > a distinction within the format is futile. > > That said, perhaps in a browsing situation, the type of thing that > a particular JID represents may be easier to discern because of > its context within an iq:browse structure... > > dj > > > ___ > jdev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] URL form of JID?
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 05:08:14PM -0400, Julian Missig wrote: > Whenever I represent a JID as a URI, I use jabber:user@host/resource - > this was sort of agreed upon as a standard (originally you had to have > jabberids like that, but they decided jabber: is not needed when within > the protocol) I guess Users want to do multiple things: - add a "send me message" button - add a "chat with me" button - add a "add me to your roster" button on a web page. All those actions should be allowed by the jabber-url. One might think about having our own mime-type, cause it is more flexible. We can have a application/x-jabber-control .XJC thing, which is required to be a special XML Document, allowing or the above things and other things like controling groupchat/conference and agents. Greetings Bernd ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] URL form of JID?
On Friday, September 21, 2001, at 06:23 PM, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: One might think about having our own mime-type, cause it is more flexible. We can have a application/x-jabber-control .XJC thing, which is required to be a special XML Document, allowing or the above things and other things like controling groupchat/conference and agents. Personally I really dislike protocols that result in downloading some useless little temporary file to your desktop (like all those damn ".pls" MP3 streaming playlist files.) I'd much rather add a query to the URL indicating the action: jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?action=message # send IM (default action) jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?action=roster # add to roster jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?action=chat # join a chat room As I said, I recall that this is how AIM URLs work. --Jens
