[JDEV] Please help Problem with connecting to Yahoo Transport

2002-01-03 Thread GuruDutt


Hi,
I have a Jabber Server which running behind a firewall, and has a static
IP which can be resolved globally. We have modified the firewall so that
it can allow us to send and receive packets on 5222 port.
 I have installed the Yahoo transport and updated the Jabber.xml
file with it.
I am able to connect to the Jabber Server thru my client, but when i
am trying to add a yahoo gateway to my client, The server gives the following
message
 [Yahoolib] failed to look up server (msg.edit.yahoo.com:80)
 [Yahoolib] failed to connect to pager auth
server
 [notice] (yahoo.184.184.89.141): Session
failed to start for [EMAIL PROTECTED]/work as user gdutt -   
bad username or password
I am unable to resolve where it it wrong, is it with my firewall or
something to do with my Jabber configuration.
Any suggestions as how to proceed on this !!
Thanks in advance !!
Regards,
GuruDutt.
 
 


Re: [JDEV] Using jabber as a central server for an Intranet

2002-01-03 Thread Ritu Khetan

Thanks for all the info friends.

Regards,
Ritu

Quoting DJ Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:06:51AM +0530, Ritu Khetan wrote:
> > Hi Dj,
> >
> >   You are certainly missing the point here.Let me explain it again:
> >
> >   I want to have a central jabber server[exposed to the Internet] which
> would take care of
> > offline messages,etc for other locations which are offline, as I had
> mentioned earlier,
> > these servers do not have dedicated connections, so they might be
> available online off
> > and on.THis central server would therefore forward messages to a
> particular location
> > whenever it is online.
> > So, in short, I dont want any of the locations to interact directly, but
> to send messages via
>
> Ah, ok, I get you now. I thought you meant that all the
> servers were on the same physical internal network. If
> they\'re on different transient connections, there\'s nothing
> out of the box on the open source server (there may be
> something in the Jabber Inc version, I dunno) that will
> enable you to use a Jabber server as an intermediate
> \'hop\' and have it retry (like email). (It\'s a different story
> if the different locations are just client connections, of
> course). Then again, there\'s nothing stopping you writing
> a component to do this, sort of a \'delivery\' component...
>
> dj
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Re: [JDEV] xml tag case sensitivity

2002-01-03 Thread David Waite


- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Veillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [JDEV] xml tag case sensitivity



> > case-sensitive so that jabber:iq:auth is separate from JABBER:IQ:AUTH?
I
>
>   Yes the string used as the URI in namespaces should be used in a case
> insensitive fashion. Not even URI normalization rules should be applied.
>

a case SENSITIVE fashion :-) and yes, URIs are not normalized. Two
namespaces are equivalent if they are exact string matches of normalized
characters  (compliant XML parsers do the normalization for you).

-David Waite

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Re: [JDEV] Error Message

2002-01-03 Thread Peter Saint-Andre

> CLIENT: ' type="subscribe"/>'
> 
> Maybe this isn't an error, and I'm just confused.

I wouldn't necessarily say this is an error. Let's envision a greater
Jabber world in which there exists [EMAIL PROTECTED]/calendar and that kind of
thing -- it's quite possible that you might want to subscribe to your own
resources, and disallowing subscriptions to yourself would prohibit that.

Peter

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Re: [JDEV] Error Message

2002-01-03 Thread aliban

Hi,
here is what i get from theoretic.com doing such actions...

Client -> Server: [Size =93]

Client -> Server: [Size =117]
Please let me add you to my 
Contacts.
Server -> Client: [Size =87]


hope i could help you, Edrin
> Hello,
> I'm working on presence subscriptions and I ran into a slight
> issue.  If a user requests to subscribe to the presence of himself (I
> did this accidently), the server should return an error.  I see that IQ
> has the capability to return errors, but need a little guidance as to
> how to form the error to send back to the client.
> 
> EX:
> CLIENT: ' type="subscribe"/>'
> 
> Maybe this isn't an error, and I'm just confused.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jamie
> 
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[JDEV] Error Message

2002-01-03 Thread Jamie Warner

Hello,
I'm working on presence subscriptions and I ran into a slight
issue.  If a user requests to subscribe to the presence of himself (I
did this accidently), the server should return an error.  I see that IQ
has the capability to return errors, but need a little guidance as to
how to form the error to send back to the client.

EX:
CLIENT: ''

Maybe this isn't an error, and I'm just confused.

Thanks,
Jamie


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Re: [JDEV] Jabber Diagram Model

2002-01-03 Thread Julian Missig

Thanks!

Michael Bauer wrote:

> I just found this: http://www.michaelbauer.com/models.html.  It's a
> technical diagram that I put together a while ago while working for
> Jabber, Inc.  It's probably out of date and was meant to show the
> structure of a Jabber server.  Thought I'd share it anyway.
> 


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[JDEV] Jabber Diagram Model

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Bauer


I just found this: http://www.michaelbauer.com/models.html.  It's a
technical diagram that I put together a while ago while working for
Jabber, Inc.  It's probably out of date and was meant to show the
structure of a Jabber server.  Thought I'd share it anyway.

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Re: [JDEV] Using jabber as a central server for an Intranet

2002-01-03 Thread Iain Shigeoka

On 1/2/02 9:48 PM, "Ritu Khetan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yes, you certainly can.  Although the only Jabber server I know that is
>> feature complete is the one offered by Jabber.com.  So if theirs doesn\'t do
>> it, you\'ll need to build your own.

>  Thanks for your response.
>  Can you give me some direction on how can I do this.

As DJ mentioned, you'll probably need to write your own customization.

First choice, if you have money, look around and talk to Jabber IM vendors.
Jabber.com obviously.  However, there are other companies selling IM
solutions (servers and clients) although they may not adventise the fact
that they are using the Jabber protocols.  These companies may be able to do
the customization for you (I imagine it would not take much extra coding).

Second choice, roll your own.  First choose your language.  As far as I know
you can go C or Java (for minimum work).  Then take the existing server in
that language (for C start with jabber.org's reference server, for Java try
Al Sutton's or the Java one on sourceforge (posts to this list have
announced them recently)).

I would imagine that you can set up some simple "relay servers" by changing
the way that the servers handle packet routing.  I would imagine the biggest
challenge will be in synchronizing and coordinating user
accounts/authentication between relay servers.  If you don't require
separate authentication on the relay servers then its not a big deal.
However, if your LAN is untrusted, you'll probably want to authenticate
against the relay servers...

As another alternative you can setup a normal Jabber distributed server
architecture inside your LAN but modify the servers and clients so that the
IP address and server names are disassociated.  Then use your own mapping
between server names and IP addresses to make the LAN look like another part
of the Internet.  The benefit being less modifications of the internal code
(you could theoretically not modify the jabber stuff at all and hack DNS
except for the "gateway Jabber server").

I have this latter setup going on my custom software because it makes
testing on my laptop easier.  Your servers know that accounting.company.com
goes to the jabber server in the accounting department, that company.com
addresses are the gateway, that outside (non company.com names) are routed
through the gateway server (all outside addresses map to the gateway
server), and that internal addresses on messages going through the gateway
are rewritten as company.com so that replies get returned to the gateway
machine (that can then lookup the address and remap it to the LAN name).

Hope that helps.

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Re: [JDEV] Re: Ghasedak Instant Messenger (Al Sutton)

2002-01-03 Thread Peter Saint-Andre

Yes, the person I removed from the list was the individual who wrote the
bigoted post full of racist venom.

Therefore I think we can end this thread now. :)

Peter

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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Julian Fitzell wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that's who Peter meant...
> 
> Julian
> 
> Antoine Maitre wrote:
> 
> > Well maybe you should also remove the moron that wrote
> > the mail that you replied to. 

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[JDEV] Request for help

2002-01-03 Thread Al Sutton

All,

Can I ask if anyone has received any Cease-and-Disist type Emails from a company 
called Antepo relating to any products based on my KvmJab library. Antepo distribute a 
J2ME client based on my library and they seem to feel this means that other companies 
distributing similar products are in breach of their copyright.

I have been made aware of one company that has received an Email and I would like to 
be made aware of any other developers who have had the same strong-arm tactics 
attempted on them.

I have just revoked Antepos right to distribute any code based on my library until 
this issue is resolved, so I can assure anyone who has received such a message that 
Antepo have no basis for their cliams unless you have used code from the Uppli 
messanger which does not come as part of the software you can download from my site.

Please Email me off the list if you have had such an Email so I can judge the size of 
the problem.

Thanks,

Al.
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RE: [JDEV] xml tag case sensitivity

2002-01-03 Thread Tim Ferguson

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the info.

Tim Ferguson


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Daniel Veillard
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JDEV] xml tag case sensitivity

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 09:20:09AM -0700, Tim Ferguson wrote:
> Is my understanding correct in that tags should be case-sensitive, so that
>  is different from ?  Should I also assume that namespaces are

  Yes, per the XML spec:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml#GIMatch
  Char and Names productions are case sensitive. And the start tag and
end tag must match exactly.

> case-sensitive so that jabber:iq:auth is separate from JABBER:IQ:AUTH?  I

  Yes the string used as the URI in namespaces should be used in a case
insensitive fashion. Not even URI normalization rules should be applied.

> have seen a couple of clients that appear to work case-insensitive, thus
my
> questions.

  It seems there is an number of not-even-close-to-XML implementations
around
and I suggest to stay far away from them (especially for server code !) to
avoid serious problems.

Daniel

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Re: [JDEV] Re: Ghasedak Instant Messenger (Al Sutton)

2002-01-03 Thread Julian Fitzell

I'm pretty sure that's who Peter meant...

Julian

Antoine Maitre wrote:

> Well maybe you should also remove the moron that wrote
> 
> the mail that you replied to. 
> I'm not from any religion and this kind of crap
> doesn't have anything to do in this newsletter.
> Besides being racist, which alone is, I think, enough
> to get him out of here, he writes racist propaganda.
> Putting this sort of stuff here will not help the
> persons who have questions, and the subject here is
> JABBER, not any subversive remarks made by some smart
> ass who probably never travelled, affraid he might
> meet someone not like him.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Antoine
> 
> 
> --- Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Postings like the following will not be tolerated,
>>and the offending
>>individual has been removed from the list.
>>
>>Peter
>>
>>--
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>>
>>On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, a guy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Al,
>>>
>>>Don't worry about our friends over at Ghasedak.
>>>
>>Their
>>
>>>from Tehran, Iran. 
>>>
>>>The copyright laws over there are very strict.
>>>However, if they break one of our laws, all they
>>>
>>have
>>
>>>to do is kill one of us and then God will forgive
>>>them. Allah be praised!  Their company will not be
>>>
>>in
>>
>>>any trouble since all of their friends and family
>>>
>>will
>>
>>>be sent to heaven with them.  
>>>
>>>Just think how much productive he will be setting
>>>
>>up
>>
>>>dates with his 72 virgin wives using jabber
>>>technology.  
>>>
>>>May Allah bless you both at home and when online!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[JDEV] Brussels, February, Open Source

2002-01-03 Thread DJ Adams

Three seemingly unrelated things, but in fact FOSDEM,
the Free and Open Source software Developers Meeting:

http://www.fosdem.org

is taking place in Brussels next month. So if you're
in the area on the weekend of 16/17 Feb, come along!
Some guy is talking about Jabber, too! ;-)

Spreading the word...
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Re: [JDEV] Re: Ghasedak Instant Messenger (Al Sutton)

2002-01-03 Thread Antoine Maitre

Well maybe you should also remove the moron that wrote

the mail that you replied to. 
I'm not from any religion and this kind of crap
doesn't have anything to do in this newsletter.
Besides being racist, which alone is, I think, enough
to get him out of here, he writes racist propaganda.
Putting this sort of stuff here will not help the
persons who have questions, and the subject here is
JABBER, not any subversive remarks made by some smart
ass who probably never travelled, affraid he might
meet someone not like him.

Thanks

Antoine


--- Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Postings like the following will not be tolerated,
> and the offending
> individual has been removed from the list.
> 
> Peter
> 
> --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> email+jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, a guy wrote:
> 
> > Al,
> > 
> > Don’t worry about our friends over at Ghasedak.
> Their
> > from Tehran, Iran. 
> > 
> > The copyright laws over there are very strict.
> > However, if they break one of our laws, all they
> have
> > to do is kill one of us and then God will forgive
> > them. Allah be praised!  Their company will not be
> in
> > any trouble since all of their friends and family
> will
> > be sent to heaven with them.  
> > 
> > Just think how much productive he will be setting
> up
> > dates with his 72 virgin wives using jabber
> > technology.  
> > 
> > May Allah bless you both at home and when online!
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [JDEV] Using jabber as a central server for an Intranet

2002-01-03 Thread DJ Adams

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:06:51AM +0530, Ritu Khetan wrote:
> Hi Dj,
> 
>   You are certainly missing the point here.Let me explain it again:
> 
>   I want to have a central jabber server[exposed to the Internet] which would take 
>care of 
> offline messages,etc for other locations which are offline, as I had mentioned 
>earlier, 
> these servers do not have dedicated connections, so they might be available online 
>off 
> and on.THis central server would therefore forward messages to a particular location 
> whenever it is online.
> So, in short, I dont want any of the locations to interact directly, but to send 
>messages via 

Ah, ok, I get you now. I thought you meant that all the
servers were on the same physical internal network. If 
they're on different transient connections, there's nothing
out of the box on the open source server (there may be
something in the Jabber Inc version, I dunno) that will 
enable you to use a Jabber server as an intermediate
'hop' and have it retry (like email). (It's a different story
if the different locations are just client connections, of
course). Then again, there's nothing stopping you writing
a component to do this, sort of a 'delivery' component...

dj
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