Re: [jdev] decentralized omniscience

2013-03-17 Thread Geof
On Mar 16, 2013 8:11 AM, Justin Karneges jus...@affinix.com wrote:

 **

 In thinking about federated social networks, I started to wonder if
 certain features enjoyed in monolithic systems might not carry over very
 well to our world. There are many situations where Facebook tailors your
 view based on its all-knowing graph database, but these kinds of things may
 be hard to pull off when there isn't any all-knowing entity.



 Take, for example, the case of viewing a Facebook post that contains many
 likes. If any of your friends liked the post, then their identities will
 be placed in the data summarization of that post. This scales well, too. A
 public post which might have 1 likes will still manage to include your
 1 friend that liked the post in the summary.



 I'm not sure if it's possible for these kinds of features to exist fully
 decentralized (or at least not without it being insanely complex), but we
 of course we don't want a wholly centralized system either. Maybe there's a
 middleground, whereby complex brainpower can be offloaded to special
 services dedicated to the task, without putting everything in that basket.
 I'm thinking of a model like the web and search engines. The web is
 functional without Google, but Google adds a lot of all-knowing value to
 those who wish to use it. So, perhaps services like Buddycloud could take
 care of all the storage, actions, federation, etc, but then separate smart
 searchy entities could be optionally integrated to augment the experience.



 The reason I bring this up here is to discuss some protocol. I think all
 that is really needed for a system like this to work is for the smart
 entity to act as a proxy. So, when fetching a post, you'd send a request to
 the smart entity, which then requests out to the post source. If the post
 has 1 likes, then the smart entity would need to download all of these
 and create a customized summarization to be returned to the initial
 requester. Oh, and of course we'd need a way for the post source to
 validate that the smart entity can act on behalf of the initial requester.
 The smart entity should not have full access to everything, but only what
 it is able to see based its users. The end result is that there isn't
 necessarily any smart entity that knows *everything*, but perhaps several
 that independently know enough to get the job done for their users. Like
 search engines on the web, these smart entities of federated social
 networks could be proactive in crawling, subscribing to, and caching data,
 such that in many cases they will immediately have answers for their users
 without needing to proxy out every time.



 Perhaps this could be accomplished with something like XEP-291 (to allow
 your JID to vouch for a third party JID allowed to act as you), and SHIM
 (for the proxied request to stamp who the original requester was).



 Is that it? Can anyone think of a smart feature they've seen on Facebook
 or Google+ that could not be accomplished with this very simple protocol?
 Maybe there are some features that absolutely require a central entity?



 Justin

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Re: [jdev] XMPP and Facebook

2013-01-08 Thread Geof
Ha, well yes there is a place for political discussions here at times in
technical forums.

That is why I am on this list. Just look at where Eric Schmidt from Google
is today, or at least he was there yesterday I believe, North Korea.

 But yes for sure it has to be within reason and limited in focus/scope.

So after being a very silent member to this list for the past 4 or 5 years,
I will say I remember
very vividly the day I sat down with the director of marketing at facebook
in their at the time
very small corporate offices in Palo Alto and talking about XMPP and using
IM on the fb platform, etc.  I think they might have had a couple of
million registered users at the time. MySpace owned the world at the
time.   A lot has changed in XMPP and social networking worlds since then.

And yes, it sure would be useful and cool to add one more level of unified
communications into the Social Networking world.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Dennis Schubert x...@dennis-schubert.dewrote:

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 Hi,

 you are right, never was a bit too hard. I just was talking about what
 I heard from some official sides before. Just wanted to say that would
 be a pretty nice improvement. Seems to work fine for Google, but this
 list is not the right place for policital discussions, I guess.

 On 08.01.13 08:39, Pedro Melo wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Dennis Schubert
  x...@dennis-schubert.de wrote:
  IIRC, Facebook will never allow s2s.
 
  Never is one of those words…
 
  There is no technical reason that prevents Facebook providing S2S.
  Even with their usage of your own email address as login.
 
  When you add a new buddy to your Facebook chat app, say
  m...@simplicidade.org, they could offer the option of using my
  Facebook IM account (mel...@facebook.com, who they know is
  associated with that email address) or a remote Jabber/Gtalk/XMPP
  account.
 
  The person identifier you use to add a buddy needs not be the actual
  XMPP JID you'll use to communicate. It's just a mapping process at
  the moment you add the buddy account.
 
  Only political/strategy reasons, and possibly a little concern with
  another attack vector, prevent Facebook from adding S2S.
 
  Bye,

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[jdev] IPv6 transition related to XMPP progress

2010-03-12 Thread Geof
This list might be of interest to the group:

http://www.mrp.net/IPv6_Survey.html

During a recent Joint Techs meeting at Fermilab Ron Broersma of Defense
Research and Engineering Network (DREN) included a scorecard in his
presentation that tried to quantify how well major organisations were
embracing IPv6. I thought that this was such a fine idea that I’ve decided
to replicate it here. I started by grabbing a list of organisations
associated with Internet2 from their web site and tried to work out their
domains...

..While some ISPs might argue that their networks
support IPv6 (and that they use it every day) because they have an IPv6
prefix that is announced to the world I tend to believe in “eating ones own
dog food” and so it’s more important to be seen to be using it in some
meaningful way rather than potentially have a single host generate a
suitable BGP announcement. Therefore like Ron I have identified some
services and use them as an indicator of usage.



   1.

   1.Web server accessible via IPv6;
   2.

   2.Email deliverable via IPv6;
   3.

   3.DNS name servers accessible via IPv6;
   4.

   4.An NTP service accessible via IPv6; and
   5.

   5.A Jabber service accessible via IPv6


Partial points are awarded if you have an accessible “www.ipv6.$domain”
site. I also now look for “ipv6.$domain” too but that’s the limit. I think a
“normal” user would give up after trying them, assuming they even try.

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Re: [jdev] Wikipedia deletions

2009-12-21 Thread Geof
Good points and discussion.  In this case a center critical mass will
probably prove more productive them dispersed bits of information.  And it
is difficult to reason with Wiki when they have their minds made up on
something.

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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.imwrote:

 Someone at Wikipedia is actively working to delete entries about various
 software projects that supposedly fail Wikipedia's notability test.
 Pages about some XMPP software projects have already been deleted (e.g.,
 Coccinella) and it seems that others will be deleted in the near future
 (e.g., Exodus, Gajim, ejabberd). Yesterday I reviewed the some of the
 discussions about these pages, and in my opinion the deletionists are
 not very open to reasoned argument. While we could spend a lot of time
 trying to fight these deletions, I think it would be more productive to
 move these pages over to wiki.xmpp.org and make that the most accurate
 source for information about XMPP technologies (along with the regular
 xmpp.org site). Naturally, you are free to spend time and energy on
 Wikipedia, but I think the site is a lost cause, so I am going to spend
 my time and energy on a wiki where our work won't be deleted because
 someone has some misguided ideas about notability.

 If you'd like to help build out wiki.xmpp.org, feel free to ask one of
 the sysops there for an account. Typically the sysops hang out in the
 j...@conference.jabber.org chatroom.

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Re: [jdev] a vision

2009-03-10 Thread Geof
Awesomelooks like a great vision to me!

Hope it becomes a reality.

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On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.imwrote:

 As posted at my blog

 ***

 I have this vision for jabber.org services:

   1. A clean and simple website with minimal text that will help end
 users get started with Jabber.

   2. Web chat for a real-time window into one end-user chatroom and one
 developer chatroom (and perhaps one additional room, such as a
 language-specific or country-specific room).

   3. Internationalized versions of everything so that volunteers around
 the world can run sites like de.jabber.org (Germany) and pt.jabber.org
 (Portugal).

   4. Extension of this international model to XMPP services, so that we
 can run SOCKS5 data proxies for file transfer and TURN media relays for
 voice+video all over the world (we'll need to convince companies and
 ISPs and non-profit organizations that this is in their interest, since
 they are the people with the bandwidth).

 For me the idea here is that jabber.org will be the community-driven
 running code laboratory for the formal rough consensus technologies
 produced by the XMPP Standards Foundation. The goal is to build an open
 and distributed IM, presence, data, and VoIP service that can provide a
 realistic alternative to closed systems like Skype.

 None of this would be exclusive. We'd still strongly encourage people to
 run their own XMPP services and join the network. But we'd also work
 hard to have worldwide coverage under the jabber.org banner.

 Call this Jabber 2.0 if you must. In any case, I think it's time for a
 strong community centered at jabber.org to provide technology leadership
 in the communication space and thus help us all achieve the original
 mission that Jeremie Miller set out long ago: freedom of conversation.

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Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Geof
As one of the few marketing folks here on this list, I'll interject my 2
cents which I very rarely do, and say based on the official press release
by Cisco corporateI would not put a bet on  In the end, perhaps
Jabber will mean nothing at all. in the future...

Note not once are the characters XMPP typed together in the release of
Jabber, Inc. acquisition..do you think that was by design, or by accident?

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Sept. 19, 2008 - Cisco today announced its intent to
acquire privately held Jabber, Inc., a provider of presence and messaging
software. Based in Denver, Jabber will work with Cisco to enhance the
existing presence and messaging functions of Cisco's Collaboration
portfolio.
 [image: Cisco Announces Definitive Agreement to Acquire Jabber]

The acquisition will enable Cisco to embed presence and messaging services
in the network and provide rich aggregation capabilities to users through
both on-premise and on-demand solutions, across multiple platforms including
Cisco WebEx(R) Connect and Cisco Unified Communications.

Enterprise organizations want an extensible presence and messaging platform
that can integrate with business process applications and easily adapt to
their changing needs, said Doug Dennerline, Cisco senior vice president,
Collaboration Software Group. With the acquisition of Jabber, we will be
able to extend the reach of our current instant messaging service and expand
the capabilities of our collaboration platform. Our intention is to be the
interoperability benchmark in the collaboration space.

Jabber provides a carrier-grade, best-in-class presence and messaging
platform. Jabber's technology leverages open standards to provide a highly
scalable architecture that supports the aggregation of presence information
across different devices, users and applications. The technology also
enables collaboration across many different presence systems such as
Microsoft Office Communications Server, IBM Sametime, AOL AIM, Google and
Yahoo!. Jabber's platform leads the market in system robustness,
scalability, extensibility and global distribution.

The Jabber acquisition exemplifies Cisco's build, buy and partner
innovation strategy to move quickly into new markets and capture key market
transitions. In addition to internal software innovations, Cisco actively
employs investments in, and acquisitions of, other companies to support its
software strategy; recent purchases include industry leaders WebEx,
IronPort, Securent and PostPath.

The transaction will be accounted for in accordance with generally accepted
accounting principles. Financial terms of the transaction are undisclosed.
The acquisition is subject to various standard closing conditions and is
expected to be complete in Cisco's first half of fiscal year 2009. Upon
completion of the acquisition, Jabber employees will become part of the
Cisco Collaboration Software Group (CSG). CSG is part of the recently
established Software Group, consisting of Cisco's major software businesses;
including the IOS network operating system, network and service management,
Unified Communications solutions, policy management, and SaaS offerings.
About Cisco Systems

Cisco, (NASDAQ: CSCO), is the worldwide leader in networking that transforms
how people connect, communicate and collaborate. Information about Cisco can
be found at http://www.cisco.com. For ongoing news, please go to
http://newsroom.cisco.com.


On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 2008/9/23 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 snip
  The term Jabber has always meant many things (an open-source server, a
  company, a protocol, etc.) and we've worked to disambiguate those
  meanings over time (jabberd, Jabber Inc., XMPP). If Jabber Inc. goes
  away, then one of the sources of confusion disappears. In the end,
  perhaps Jabber will mean nothing at all. ;-)

 Wrong: Jabber is listed in the dictionary; XMPP is not listed (yet ;-)
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Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Geof
a wise old man once told me, Geof, right or WRONG, sometimes perception
becomes reality.

Do you not think Bill Gates and company would like to go back in time and
set the record straight on somethings that have morphed from perception into
reality?

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 naw wrote:

  To me, it seems that Cisco is trying to confuse people and make them
 think
  that Cisco is the owner of the protocol/IM system/comunity.

 Fortunately, you are wrong.

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Re: [jdev] Facebook to Jabber Gateway?

2008-04-21 Thread Geof
FYI...one of the first Facebook apps was Coversant SoapBox which provides an
XMPP messenger app to Facebook. Was up last summer.

JD Conelly spearheaded that effort.

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Magnus Henoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Florian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  is there any transport for Facebook? It would be nice to see something
  like that, especially as f8 does XML.

 This site does something similar: http://social.im/
 You get a new JID, whose roster automagically contains your Facebook
 friends.

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Re: [jdev] IPv6 readyness?

2008-04-16 Thread Geof
Chris Mullins at Microsoft is a good resource on this topic, and also if
anybody runs into any specific issues or IPv6 questions, please be sure to
let me know.

I am chair of the California IPv6 Task Force and am a leader with the global
IPv6 Forum.  FYI, there is an IPv6 Ready program and if anybody is
interested they can visit www.IPv6Forum.com and learn more about it.

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On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi,

 Am Mi, 16.04.2008, 14:49, schrieb Paul van Tilburg:
  Our Jabber server (jabberd14 code base) has been running on our IPv6
 network for over 4 years without any problems.

 Same here, jabberd14 server is still running since 2004 in a ipv4/ipv6
 environment without any problems.

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[jdev] Fwd: [Nav6tf] Results of ARIN/CAIDA IPv6 Penetration Survey

2008-04-16 Thread Geof
One more piece of useful IPv6 info see below just in this week from ARIN and
CAIDA...and a good resource Wiki.  The North American IPv6 Task Force is in
the process of developing an IPv6 Knowledge Base which should be live fairly
soon.

Geof Lambert
IPv6 Forum

-- Forwarded message --
From: Richard Jimmerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:22 AM
Subject: [Nav6tf] Results of ARIN/CAIDA IPv6 Penetration Survey
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) and the Cooperative
Association for Internet Data Analysis (CAIDA) worked together to conduct a
survey to capture IPv6 penetration data in the ARIN region.  The survey took
place in March of 2008 and an analysis of the results was presented by kc
claffy of CAIDA during the ARIN XXI meeting in Denver, Colorado, last week.
 You can find the link to this presentation on the top-right corner of
ARIN's IPv6 wiki at:

http://www.getipv6.info

We encourage community members to post IPv6 experiences, knowledge and
resources on the ARIN IPv6 wiki.  Also, be sure to check back there soon for
data from the 8 April ARIN IPv6 Main Event, where participants connected to
an IPv6-only network.

Regards,

Richard Jimmerson
Chief Information Officer
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Re: [jdev] Google Androïd SDK not XMPP compliant ?

2008-02-15 Thread Geof
Good clarification..

Thanks Peter!

Geof

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 biojab biojab wrote:
 
 http://code.google.com/android/migrating/m3-to-m5/m5-api-changes.html#gtalk

 First of all, don't panic.

 As I understand it from one of the Android team members, they have been
 using XMPP communications (sent only via the Google Talk service) as a
 way for developers to debug their code by sending handset-to-handset
 messages. This usage was quite limited and the server was hardcoded to
 talk.google.com for that reason. This package was never intended for
 broader use, e.g. as a general messaging service that could be used for
 all the things we're familiar with from the XMPP universe (presence, IM,
 RPC, Jingle, etc.). Naturally if developers want a more robust messaging
 service that they could hook up to their own XMPP servers, they could
 simply use a full XMPP library (a likely candidate is Smack, since
 Android is all Java all the time).

 Since Android was never doing anything very extensive with XMPP, it's
 not exactly the end of the world that they are more clearly labelling
 this package as a GTalk-only debug channel.

 Now, whether it would be better for Android in the long run if they were
 doing something more extensive with XMPP is another question... :)

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Re: [jdev] Announcement of ejabberd 2.0.0-rc1

2008-01-18 Thread Geof
awesome! exciting news...looking forward to checking it out.

Sounds like you have made some great enhancements

keep up the good work!

Geof Lambert
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On 1/18/08, Mickaël Rémond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 ejabberd 2.0.0 has been in the works since more than a year ago. This
 release will include an impressive amount of new features,
 improvements and bug fixes. Just to name two: more clustering features
 and updated Pub-Sub service with PEP support.

 Please read with detail the Release Notes for a list of changes and
 important notes:
 http://svn.process-one.net/ejabberd/branches/ejabberd-2.0.x/doc/release_notes_2.0.0.txt

 But the final release of ejabberd 2.0.0 is not ready yet. Right now
 it's time for Release Candidate 1.

 Three weeks ago Beta1 was published (although not widely announced).
 Several people  reported important bugs that are now fixed in RC1. You
 can check the tickets concerning Beta1 that are fixed in RC1 [1] and
 the SVN log since Beta1 was released until RC1 [2].

 Source code and binary installers are available as usual in the
 downloads page:
 http://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/downloads

 To formally report bugs please use the ejabberd bug tracker:
 http://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB
 You can also discuss any issue in this ejabberd mailing list, or in
 the ejabberd forums:
 http://www.ejabberd.im/forum

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 https://support.process-one.net/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10011fixfor=10050version=10180sorter/field=issuekeysorter/order=DESC

 [2]
 https://forge.process-one.net/changelog/ejabberd/branches/ejabberd-2.0.x?todate%3D1200478574156

 Have fun !

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[jdev] XMPP testing for compatibility to IPv6 at the University of New Hampshire Interoperability Labs

2007-08-10 Thread Geof
Does anybody have anything in the XMPP world they would like tested for
compatibility to IPv6 at the University of New Hampshire Interoperability
Labs...

http://www.iol.unh.edu/general/

If so, let me know and I'll try to hook you up with some testing that is
going to be taking place there later this year..

These labs host MoonV6  some background on MoonV6:


What is Moonv6?

The Moonv6 project is a global effort led by the *North American IPv6 Task
Force* (NAv6TF http://www.nav6tf.org/ ) involving the*University of New
Hampshire - InterOperability Laboratory*
(UNH-IOLhttp://www.iol.unh.edu/index.php),
*Internet2 http://internet2.edu/*, vendors http://www.moonv6.com/vendor/,
service providers and regional IPv6 Forum Task Force network pilots
worldwide. Taking place across the U.S. at multiple locations, the Moonv6
project is the largest permanently deployed multi-vendor IPv6 network in the
world. The U.S. Government's Department of Defense *Joint Interoperability
Testing Command* (JITC http://jitc.fhu.disa.mil/) and other government
agencies, the Defense Research  Engineering Network (DREN) and the High
Performance Computing Modernization Program (HPCMP) also play significant
roles in the Moonv6 demonstrations ensuring DoD interoperability and
migration objectives are identified and demonstrated.
Cheers!

Geof Lambert
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On 8/10/07, Jonathan Chayce Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 16:56 -0400, rek2GNU/Linux wrote:
  Jonathan Chayce Dickinson escribió:
   Hey People,
  
   No, this is not another request for a jabber server (I think it
 deserves
   an acronym as it comes up so often: YARFAS - Yet Another Request For A
   Server ;) ). Anyway, I am coding an Jabber server in Ruby, and I am
   hosting it on Google Code. So I am looking for
 contributors/developers.
  
   RJabberD is a Ruby Jabber server. Emphasis is placed on the Jabber
   portion, that is, the server is not designed purely for XMPP: all
   functionaly will be provided via plugins.
  
   Shout if you can help.
  
   Cheers,
Jonathan Dickinson
  
  
  hey Awesome!! started to code on Ruby I love it!!
  not sure if I have the time to help but keep me in the loop
 

 Yeah, it's also my first major project in Ruby (besides Rails). I have
 been programming in C# for 6-7 years now (since Beta 1), so it will be a
 learning curve for me: hopefully a good one. I'm still early on in the
 implementation (still experimenting with Ruby sockets), but I'm getting
 places. Have a look at the Wiki and see if you can find anything that
 would interest/challenge you and have a go at it, any small amount of
 code would be great.

 Cheers,
   Jonathan Dickinson




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[jdev] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2007-07-05 Thread Geof Lambert
Geof Lambert requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
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Artur,

Here is invitation to join my LinkedIn network if you'd like to expand your 
circle out a little wider add me to your network.

Cheers!

-Geof

View invitation from Geof Lambert
http://www.linkedin.com/e/vNGFHWSvG0WC6SmjzD7BqyHcOt/blk/148995840_2/cBYMd3wRejAUd34LqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/

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Re: [jdev] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2007-07-05 Thread Geof

Gees, I have no ideai sent out an automated LinkedIn invite this a.m. to
catch up on people I have recently been in communication over past month or
so that developer email list must have been buried in there accidentally
since I just requested an add to it earlier this week.

I'll take a look and see.

Geof

On 7/5/07, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Geof Lambert wrote:


 Geof Lambert requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:

 

 Artur,

Does Artur list his email address as jdev@jabber.org on LinkedIn?

/psa






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[jdev] Non-developer message...

2007-07-03 Thread Geof

This message isn't developer oriented, but this appears to be the closest
list I could find appropriate to send this message..

My name is Geof Lambert, I just submitted an application for membership to
the XMPP Foundation to learn more about XMPP and meet those interested in
seeing it more widely adopted.

If anybody has any questions about my background, let me know! I'd be happy
to provide more insight and information.

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