RE: [JDEV] Concurrent Users
hi there our configs appear to be more or less the same could you kindly mail me the yahoo entry of you jabber.xml please i've been strugglish for the last x weeks getting the bloody transport to work! oh yes ~ about the max user thing i've been told by zad (i think) that the max user is round about plus/minus 1024 however after doing some stress testing we've managed to get thus far 2450 about users the only reason we only hit that amount was because our 'client' machines ran out of memory :-( hope this helps... ~ regards riyaad -Original Message-From: Satish Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:09 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [JDEV] Concurrent Users Hello Every one i have jabber 1.4.1 server installed adn running in with the following transports Yahoo,ICQ,AIM,MSN how many simultaneous users can Jabber Server Support ? Best Regds Satish Reddy Give your child an unfair advantage with M-Web Learning. To join, call 08600 32 000 or click here M-Web JUST LIKE THAT
[JDEV] Max number of users....revisted!
Hi all Small question ... What is the limiting factor on the number of simultaneous connections to jabberd? I'm currently using jabber 1.4.1 open source. It cries at 1000 (about) despite tweaking mgy kernel to get beyond 6 fd's. Are there any thread number issues involved? Could I run multiple jabberd processes on different ports to get a higher total number of connections to my server? Thanks Regards RM Give your child an unfair advantage with M-Web Learning. To join, call 08600 32 000 or go to http://join.mweb.co.za M-Web JUST LIKE THAT ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
RE: [JDEV] Yahoo Transport
Yes I have I'm interested in having a look see at the version from the CVS right now though -Original Message- From: Matthias Wimmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JDEV] Yahoo Transport Hi Riyaad! Riyaad Miller schrieb am 2002-03-04 10:27:39: I've tried various implementations of Yahoo with no luck. Does this transport actually work? Have you tried http://amessage.de/patches/yahoo-transport-0.8.4.5.tar.bz2 ... works for me. Tot kijk Matthias -- Fon: +49-(0)70 0770 07770 http://matthias-wimmer.de/ Fax: +49-(0)89 312 88 654 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Give your child an unfair advantage with M-Web Learning. To join, call 08600 32 000 or go to http://join.mweb.co.za M-Web JUST LIKE THAT ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
RE: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
i stand corrected but you may wna look into a socks 4 and 5 proxy hope this helps -Original Message- From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies Can a jabberd server work through a Proxy? I mean, I have my server compiled and working. Clients can connect, users can talk (only users connected directly to my server), etc. But the server cannot find jabber.org. And it's because there's a proxy between my server and the Internet. Could anybody help me? Thanks. Rodri ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev Give your child an unfair advantage with M-Web Learning. To join, call 08600 32 000 or go to http://join.mweb.co.za M-Web just like that ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Yahoo Transport
Hello World :-) I've tried various implementations of Yahoo with no luck. Does this transport actually work? Could someone please mail me the link or README or config of this transport that actually works The closest I've come to getting Yahoo to work was with imtermitant connections and disconnections. Would be appreciated Thanks regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Yahoo transport?
Hallo ALL I'm struggling to get the Yahoo transport up and running When I login using JIM the yahoo gateway entry globe goes on then immediately off. Any ideas why this would be doing this? Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] ICQ Transport
Hi ALL Just recapping on old topic Is there a working version of this transport available yet for Jabber 1.4.1? If so ...please let me know where! :-) Thanks Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Rooms?
Hi All Does the jdev room on conference.jabber.org (or something of this nature) still exist? Do tell!!! Thanks Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
RE: [JDEV] xml and passwords
Thanks Worked wonders -Original Message- From: - zad - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JDEV] xml and passwords yup. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Riyaad Miller Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JDEV] xml and passwords Thanks I'll look into this although I am using mod_auth_ldap.c Are these compatible? -Original Message- From: - zad - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JDEV] xml and passwords Hi Riyaad, This has been handled in ldapauth just get the mod_register.c modules from there and use it. :) zad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Riyaad Miller Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:11 AM To: Jabber Administration (E-mail); Jabber Developers (E-mail) Subject: [JDEV] xml and passwords Hi all Small quiz How do you (if authenticating against LDAP), disallow the passwords from being stored in the user.xml files? Any ideas Thanks Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] admin username and password
Hi All I'm currently implementing jann.pl from http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jann.html#download Thing is I've got this pesky jabber admin password request coming up. I cant remmeber specifying one anymore in any of the configs. Any ideas DJ? Thanks RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Net::Jabber::EscapeXML
Hi ALL Any body out there in the Jabber world ever hear of the Net::Jabber::EscapeXML module? I've already check search.cpan.org ...no luck! I've trying to use the motd progy created by JD Adams...jann (perl script) http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jann.html#download Please let me know ... Thanks. RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] xml and passwords
Hi all Small quiz How do you (if authenticating against LDAP), disallow the passwords from being stored in the user.xml files? Any ideas Thanks Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Broadcasting to online users ...
Hi ALL I'm looking for some kind of solution to my problem here. Here's a scenario, assuming you have approximately 5000 users online at this very moment, all of which are merrily chatting away. Assume there's some kinda major event happening in the world (eg. Volcano errupting in Hawai or something ...merely an example here). I want to be able to pull this information from my already existing news system of sort and display the major breaking news headlines to the chatting users in some form of popup box (if possible like the presense notification jabber already has). Question...is there a tool that has this already, does Jabber have some kind of configuration that already exists and lastlyIs this possible? Do tell ...very interested to know. Thanks in advance ... Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
RE: [JDEV] Dead links on jabber.org
Excellent question Have you tried the other links jabbercentral.com etc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JDEV] Dead links on jabber.org Hi! I sent this mail some time ago but nothing happened. Is anybody out there maintaining jabber.org? Regards -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:17:42 +0100 (CET) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dead links on jabber.org Hi! Some dead or otherwise non-working links on the Jabber Transports page (http://www.jabber.org/?oid=72): - Pager Transport - BBS Transport - Groove Transport - (Magi Transport) - (HTTP Transport) I think it would be best to simply remove these entries. The ICQ Transport entry points to the non-functional (old) ICQ Transport only. I would propose to either change it to point to the new icqv7-t (icqv7-t.sourceforge.net) or at least to add a link to icqv7-t (and perhaps to AIM-t for it can be used for ICQ also). Also a notice (ICQv5 can not connect to newer ICQ clients has trouble with offline messages) would be good. Perhaps it would be best to rename the CVS ICQ-t module too (for example icq-transport = icqv5-old or something). Regards ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Multiple hosts ....re-visited *Urgent*
Hello All A few interesting questions ... How do we register users with a different domain/host name (which is NOT the as the local server running Jabber). Do note I am refering to domains other the the usual MSN, Yahoo etc transports. Assuming we have multiple hosts/domains, what exactly does host in Jabber.xml do for me, I know it's documented in the file itself, but does it 'really' work, if so how? Allow me to provide an example. I want [EMAIL PROTECTED] to register with my jabber server (my.jabber.com), however I also want [EMAIL PROTECTED] to do the same. Unfortunately I can only get [EMAIL PROTECTED] working fine and Not the others ...any possible explainationsThe entry I do already have in my jabber.xml file is as follows. (well not exactly but you get the drift) hostdomain1.com /host hostdomain2.com /host . Thanks Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Multiple Domain Authentication
Hello ALL Is the following possible assuming the relevant authentication information has been loaded into LDAP. Assume [EMAIL PROTECTED] logs into jabber.server.com and authenticates successfully against LDAP. Could [EMAIL PROTECTED] log into the same jabber.server.com (note different user and domain). The reason I ask is because the returning JID points to the wrong email address. It does the following. The JID for user2 becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a fix to this. Any help would be appreciated. :-) ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Transports
Hello ALL I'm hoping there's a solution to this problem. My MSN transport appears to be working fine. However when checking the properties of a contact, I notice that the contacts email addy is wrong, instead of being [EMAIL PROTECTED], it's something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do fix this. It must be a config issue or something ... Please assist if possible. Thanks Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Load Balancing and the Enterprise ver!
Hello ALL Small question, is there anything in the enterprise version of Jabber (maybe some kind of module or something) that allows you to do load balancing via the actual service. As already discovered the open source doesn't have load balancing as yet? If so, where can I find this. This would be most helpful. Thx Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Yahoo transport make failures
Hi ALL I'm attempting to install the Yahoo transport on my Linux RH 7.2 server. The configuration are as follows. Currently its running Jabber 1.4.1 with Conference 0.4.1. I've installed MSN-transport 1.1 (though I'm not too sure if this is working 100% quite yet). Thing is, the version of the Yahoo transport I'm trying to install is ver 0.8.2-1.4. I'm currently getting build problems. I run the ./configure with no hastles but as soon as I get to running the make, I get the following error ... [rmiller@gomez yahoo-transport-0.8.2-1.4]$ make Making all in libyahoo make[1]: Entering directory `/home/rmiller/jabber-1.4.1/yahoo-transport-0.8.2-1.4/libyahoo' gcc -DLIBEXECDIR=\/usr/local/libexec\ -DPKGDATADIR=\/usr/local/share/libyahoo\ -I. -I. -g -O2 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -c libyahoo.c gcc -DLIBEXECDIR=\/usr/local/libexec\ -DPKGDATADIR=\/usr/local/share/libyahoo\ -I. -I. -g -O2 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -c memtok.c gcc -DLIBEXECDIR=\/usr/local/libexec\ -DPKGDATADIR=\/usr/local/share/libyahoo\ -I. -I. -g -O2 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -c libyahoo-debug.c rm -f libyahoo.a ar cru libyahoo.a libyahoo.o memtok.o libyahoo-debug.o ranlib libyahoo.a make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rmiller/jabber-1.4.1/yahoo-transport-0.8.2-1.4/libyahoo' Making all in src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/rmiller/jabber-1.4.1/yahoo-transport-0.8.2-1.4/src' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../libyahoo -I -I/usr/local/include -I../include-g -Wall -fPIC -c init.c In file included from init.c:1: ../include/yahootrans.h:1:21: jabberd.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [init.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rmiller/jabber-1.4.1/yahoo-transport-0.8.2-1.4/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Could someone please assist me wrt this issue...it is somewhat urgent? Thanks Regards RM ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] MSN Transport Problems
Could somebody show me the 'light' side on this query. Allow me to explain the situation! I've installed Jabber 1.4.1, running conference 0.4.1 and MSN Transport 1.1 We've managed hack the crap out of mod_auth_ldap.c and finally have ldap authenticating nicely against our OpenLDAP servers running ver 2, note that our Jabber server and our LDAP servers are not the same physical server. I've setup a MSN id and downloaded the MSN chat client on my local desktop. Note I also have WinJab and JIM running on my machine. Here's the problem ... When I go online with my MSN userid, theoretically according to my limited understanding of Jabber, I should be able to find myself (merely testing here), add myself to my list of contact and in theory chat to me myself, one as the MSN user, the other as the Jabber user. Problem is though ... I don't! When I try to invite my MSN self to my new conference room, a dialog box come up and tell me not found *what's not found* - assuming the user here! I then create the room with my inviting local jabber user. Also assuming I click chat on the my MSN nick link in JIM (which by the way has (Pending), I get the message that I am offline ...How could this be when my MSN chat window is open and I'm chatting to the world. I'm absolutely dumb struck on this ... I'm always also seeing this msg in my log files!! 20020118T12:37:55: [notice] (test): failed to establish connection 20020118T12:37:55: [notice] (test): bouncing a packet to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Server Connect Failed One last thing - I am behind a firewall and need to find out this. If a request being made to a server beyond the firewall come from jabber, does the reply request/answer come back on the same session or does jabber terminate the session. I'm not too clear about this so any kind reasonable answer would be nice! Regards Riyaad ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Jabber Redundancy
Hello World {smile}
Small question wrt running Jabber on multiple servers in synch.
Picture this scenario
2 servers running Jabber doing load balancing.
The gateways installed redundantly on both servers?
Question - is it possible for the services to 'talk' to each other and also
to know exactly whose logged into which server and perform load balancing
in the process?!? Also Is is advisable is actually have the gateways installed on the
same
system, remotely installed gateways and having them configured to talk to Jabber would
be a real plus - though is it possible!!
Do tell ...:-)
Thanks ...RM
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RE: [JDEV] The Important Things
Hi Zadk strange one any reason why when i do a registration against my ldap server it actually pick up my ldap search and replies that the user already exists (which is good as i'm trying to register a user that already exists) but when i try and authenticate against my ldap - it doesnt even communicate with the ldap server? your help and insight would be gr8 on this one thx - rm -Original Message- From: zadk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JDEV] The Important Things Although it would be beneficial, IMHO it can't really solve the problem of farming one instant messenger domain. Since when one server goes dowmn the users registered on that server will be left in the dark! Please correct me if I'm missing something Zad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Al Sutton Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JDEV] The Important Things Jer has said the capability is pretty much there, so I think the next thing is try to put together a proof of concept. My C is rusty and my day job is hectic, so I'm unlikley to be able to do anything for a while, so if you want to get stuck in feel free. Al. On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 22:45, Tim Ferguson wrote: I really, really like this idea, although I would not consider myself an expert yet I am willing to help out/move it along in this arena. Tim Ferguson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Al Sutton Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JDEV] The Important Things Why not add authentication and message relaying to the S2S protocol. This would give four advantages; 1. Any user could log into any machine and the server would relay the authentication request to the relevant machine to handle authentication. 2. The messages for that user would be relayed to the server they are logged in to and then forwarded on to them. 3. Clusters or farms could be constructed to server a a single jabber community and the load shared between them. 4. This would only involve a change to the S2S protol and servers supporting it (of which there are few), and would leave the C2S protocol unchanged and thus not require any client changes. Comments? Al. On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 15:50, Ashvil wrote: I found that we could use some kind of a gateway - people connect to one server ( for example jabbber.org ) autheticate - get a token/session id - and then continue with a server l1.l4.dddljfds.jabbber.org that are real jabber servers. snip Any ideas that can help in scalability are welcome. If we can use a pool of cheap PCs to build a scalable jabber network, then even more valuable then having One big Server with Gigs of memory. This will require some changes in the Jabber protocol. The MSN protocol does something like this, but takes this one step ahead by letting you connect to any server in the pool, which then refers you to the right server that can authenticate you. If you make logging in a two-step process, you can solve this problem but that would mean changing all the Jabber clients and also the S2S communication in the Jabber server. Anyway, this is an area that the Jabber server developers are the best folks to comment on. Regards, Ashvil ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
RE: [JDEV] The Important Things
Title: RE: [JDEV] The Important Things Good question especially if you'd like to authenticate using LDAP? - RM -Original Message-From: Rodrigo Roman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:22 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [JDEV] The Important Things I'm new in the discussion but need to install a server in an ISP, about 3000 concurrent users, do I have to use JCS or open source jabber is OK for this? THANKS in advance! dedalo -Mensaje original- De: Ashvil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Jueves, 10 de Enero de 2002 09:12 a.m. Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [JDEV] The Important Things Ashvil wrote: With regards to scalabilty, I feel that we need to move to the Apache and SendMail model. Millions of small servers in different domains, rather then AOL's centralized model. If some ISP still demands scalabilty, then they can choose Jabber.com's JCS. snip So i don't understand why somebody is saying something like this on a mailing list about opensource project. First of all, I don't work for Jabber.com or will gain if they do well. I do care that Jabber does well. For me, Jabber is a community that includes the Jabber open source server, other proprietary servers like JCS, Jabcast, etc., open source clients WinJab, etc., proprietary clients like Jabber IM, Vista, etc., clients libraries, server modules, innovative stuff like Jogger, etc. and finally the end users who use Jabber. From the technical side we are bound by the Jabber specification. So Jabber to me is MORE then just an Open Source project. I think this is the view in the Jabber community also, but if I am wrong, please correct me. With regard to my comment on JCS, my position is connecting to a Jabber server (whether open source or not) is better then connecting to an AOL server. Using a client supporting the Jabber protocol (whether open source or not) is better then using the AIM client. Both the actions GROW the jabber community, so if I want to use the open source versions of either the client or server, I can MAKE that choice. With the CLOSED AOL AIM protocol, that choice is not possible. it's ok we can stop developing the server. I never said in my email that we need to stop development of the server. I support your desire to for Jabber to be 'the best server'. All I said were two things with regards to the Jabber server, which I am expanding and repeating here 1. If the Jabber server is used in a distributed fashion like sendmail and Apache, then that reduces the scalability requirements. 2. For ISPs that demand more scalability, let them use JCS, etc. now instead of choosing some closed solution like Odigo or co-branding AOL, Yahoo, etc. That way, when the jabber server meets their requirements, they can adopt it easily. Regards, Ashvil ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
RE: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL
Hi all Is there like any particular reason http://www.jabber.com should be dead? Does this site still exist or is it merely a temp prob? -Original Message- From: dlb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL One thing to consider regarding AOL is that they'll have to adopt some measure of interoperability, either standards based or w/ specific competing services , prior to launching IM enhanced broadband applications within cable regions covered by the AOL - Time Warner consent decree. I think that this argues for a focus on the continued development of Jabber in its role as a user /resource aware XML messaging routing architecture. The fundamental extensibility of Jabber along with the work being done w/ XML-RPC and SOAP , and the design concepts being implemented w/ Jabber2 have the potential to establish Jabber as the platform of choice for precisely these sorts of applications. I don't see any way of overcoming the network effects supporting the existing AOL service - you're never going to get a significant number of AOL IM users to adopt Jabber and AOL won't allow interop until they're forced to. One strategy that I think could work would be to position Jabber as a competitor in the area of IM enhanced broadband apps and to deploy applications and services within systems covered by the consent decree. AOL isn't going to want a rival technology to gain a significant foothold in this area and would eventually forward an interop proposal simply to enable them to introduce rival applications. preliminary work in this area could include : Developing OCAP (OpenCable Applications Platform) compatible jabber components. Developing ATVEF based clients for Liberate / AOLTV - ATVEF is based on web dev. standards . Promoting Jabber as a 'platform' for next generation BB and ITV apps. if anyone else is interested in this area pls contact me -David ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
