Re: [jdev] which XEP should I implement for avatars, 0084 or 0153? (was JDev Digest, Vol 86, Issue 4)
On Miércoles 16 Marzo 2011 18:07:17 Fidel Hernández Salazar escribió: Mando a pedir su vCard, de ahí extraigo la foto y la muestro, pero se que esa no es la forma correcta. Alguien me explica cual es la extensión que se debe implementar para el avatar ? XEP-0084: User Avatar O esta XEP-0153: vCard-Based Avatars Cuál de las dos debería implementar para seguir el estándar ? Buenas Yo implementaria primero la 0153, que creo que es la más extendida. Más adelante, me plantearía implementar la 84. PD: Recuerda que esta lista de correo es en inglés. PD: Para enviar este mensaje (un mensaje nuevo) deberias haver enviado un nuevo mensaje a jdev@jabber.org en lugar de Responder a uno, ya que así incluiste el mensaje al que has respondido y además el Asunto no es desscriptivo. -- Hi I would implement 0.153 first because is the most extended one. After that you can think on implement 0084. PS: Remember that this list is in english. PS: To send this message (a new one) you should have sent a new message instead reply to one (that included the original message and gives it a non clear subject) ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] JDev Digest, Vol 84, Issue 1
On Miércoles 05 Enero 2011 17:23:10 Fidel Hernandez Salazar escribió: Me pueden ayudar en lo del Roster Versioning? No conozco mucho de eso ! Lo primero, esta lista de correo es en inglés, si puedes, escribe en inglés. En español, quizas puedas encontrar información en la pagina http://www.jabberes.org El Roster Versioning (XEP-0237) es una extensión al protocolo Jabber/XMPP que permite que el roster (lista de contactos) no se envie cada vez que un usuario conecta, sino que se envian las diferencias desde la última vez que conecto. La idea es reducir el ancho de banda que se utiliza, esto es especialmente importante para los que conectan usando telefonos móviles. Puedes ver los detalles de la extension en http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0237.html y las especificaciones de todo el protocolo Jabber/XMPP en http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/ --- First of all, this mail list is in english. If you can, write in english. In spanish you probably will find information at http://www.jabberes.org Roster Versioning (XEP-0237) is an extension to the Jabber/XMPP protocol that allows the roster (contact list) not to be sent each time the user connects. Instead only differences from the last conection are sent. This reduce the bandwidth usage, this is specially important for those connecting from mobile phones. You can see the details at http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0237.html and the Jabber/XMPP protocol specifications at http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/ ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Anonymous User Access:
On Viernes 28 Mayo 2010 19:19:41 Kumaravel Kandasami escribió: Hi we are working on designing one of our use cases, where an anonymous (visitor) to our application without any credentials connecting with our registered users. I was looking into the protocol and looks like we need to have valid JID/Password to create a connection. Is there any workarounds or strategies that we could use to implement this use case ? Any reference material or link is appreciated. Appreciate your help. You can use SASL Anonymous for that. At login a new acount with a random Jabber ID will be created. Take a look to: XEP-0175: Best Practices for Use of SASL ANONYMOUS: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0175.html ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Anonymous User Access:
On Sábado 29 Mayo 2010 01:04:17 Kumaravel Kandasami escribió: Thank you very much that saved lot of my research work. Is there any public XMPP servers supporting this feature ? ejabberd does support SASL Anonymous http://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/guide_en#saslanonymous and also Prosody http://prosody.im/doc/anonymous_logins I don't know about other server implementations but I bet that there are more that will support it http://xmpp.org/software/servers.shtml ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Fwd: Facebook's opt-in security feature will break web-based Facebook prpl
My two cents On Miércoles 05 Mayo 2010 19:37:26 Peter Saint-Andre escribió: As seen on the Adium list, but it applies to all IM clients... /psa Original Message Subject: Facebook's opt-in security feature will break web-based Facebook prpl I'm not sure if it applies to all clients. In the message subject, it says web-based Facebook prpl. Before Facebook opened their XMPP interface, Adium and Pidgin, were able to login and I guess that they did this through http connections to their web. So it may not apply to users and clients using the XMPP interface. Begin forwarded message: We're going to be rolling out an opt-in security feature which if enabled will break the current Facebook sign in within Adium. If users run into it, best bet will be to have them re-add their Facebook Chat account manually selecting Jabber. Their Jabber ID is usern...@chat.facebook.com mailto:usern...@chat.facebook.com.[...] If it would affect users that are using the XMPP interface, the solution shouldn't be to delete and readd the account with the same protocol type and Jabber ID that they are already using. ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Help me !
On Viernes 09 Abril 2010 07:35:28 Fidel Hernández Salazar escribió: Some one of you know a XMPP library to develop client to jabber in Delphi ? In the xmpp.org page you have a list of libraries [1] along with the specs [2]. Unafortunately, for Delphi there is only one, IP*Works Internet Toolkit [3], which costs 300$ You also can reuse code from exodus [4] (a jabber client) The code seems to be in the jopl directory. By the way, did you solved your doubts with Roster Versioning? -- En la pagina xmpp.org tienes una lista de librerías [1] y tambien de expecificaciones [2]. Desafortunadamente, para Delphi solo está IP*Works Internet Toolkit [3] y cuesta 300$ Tambien puedes murar en el codigo de exodus [4] (un cliente jabber) y reutilizar el código que usa para conectar a jabber. El código parece estar en el directorio jopl. Por cierto, resolviste tus dudas con Roster Versioning? [1] http://xmpp.org/software/libraries.shtml [2] http://xmpp.org/protocols/ [3] http://www.nsoftware.com/ipworks/ [4] http://code.google.com/p/exodus/ ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] IPv6 transition related to XMPP progress
This also may be interesting. Of the 70 servers listed on http://xmpp.org/services/ only 17 (24%) seems to be ready for IPv6 They are: brauchen.info climm.org deshalbfrei.org draugr.de jabber.fourecks.de jabber.i-pobox.net jabber.scha.de jabber.second-home.de jabber.sow.as programmer-art.org sternenschweif.de swissjabber.ch ubuntu-jabber.de ubuntu-jabber.net verdammung.org xabber.de xmppnet.de ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Facebook now supports XMPP connections
On Viernes 12 Febrero 2010 18:32:10 Pedro Melo escribió: Hi, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Norman Rasmussen nor...@rasmussen.co.za wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Pedro Melo m...@simplicidade.org wrote: I was able to login with a Psi-based client. The lack of SRV records is unfortunate. It shouldn't matter chat.facebook.com has an A record for a server that you can connect to on port 5222, why would you need SRV records? Because the use of SRV records is the recommended way to discover the IP/Port for a XMPP server, as specified in the 3920 RFC (section 14.3). Using A records is the fallback method. Just because it works, does not make it right. Bye, Also, a u...@facebook.con address looks much better. ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Facebook now supports XMPP connections
On Miércoles 10 Febrero 2010 22:41:17 Christopher Orr escribió: It seems that Facebook have just opened up their XMPP server for Facebook Chat. http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Integrating_with_Facebook_Cha t The server is at chat.facebook.com:5222 (sans SRV records) and the only stream features advertised are DIGEST-MD5 or X-FACEBOOK-PLATFORM authentication. There's no TLS, no compression, and possibly no access to people who don't have a Facebook username (i.e. those who only have a user ID). The basics are supposedly all there: rosters, presence, plain text messaging, vCards. I could only get a 503 error so far when trying to authenticate, so can't comment any further.. Chris I was reveiving those errors on pidgin because it hadn't DIGEST-MD5 support. I had to install the cyrus-sasl-plugins package. This on Arch linux, in other distributions it can be different. Check what Autentication Method is your client trying to use. Try other clients too. Also, take a look to http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Converting one-on-one chat into a multi-user conference
On Jueves 10 Diciembre 2009 12:55:41 Jonas Ådahl escribió: Hi, This is a general question and opinion. As of what I know, most (if not all) XMPP clients who supports MUC does not support what section 7.6 (Converting a One-to-One Chat Into a Multi-User Conference). XMPP is often used within companies, and often heard opinion is that many prefer closed system such as MSN or Skype due to the fact that they implement the behavior of section 7.6 of the MUC XEP, considering the common scenario when a discussion is initiated between two parties, but needs a temporary way to let it involve more people. There is the protocol specification, but I have trouble finding support for it in clients. What clients are there that supports this part of MUC, and are developers of other clients planning to add this feature? Jonas Coccinella seems to have support ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] xmpp server in port 80 [opensource project]
On Miércoles 21 Octubre 2009 16:43:26 Álvaro Pinel escribió: I have seen jabber80.com and I want to create an opensource project like it. I don't know if already exists and how to do it. If anyone can help me. Thx! I think that almost every xmpp server can be configured to listen in the port 80 for new connections (normal xmpp connections or HTTP wrapped connections like HTTP-Polling or BOSH) So you shouldn't need a new project for that, only to setup a server. ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] xmpp server in port 80 [opensource project]
On Miércoles 21 Octubre 2009 17:04:38 Álvaro Pinel escribió: El Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:55:00 +0200 naw lambda...@gmail.com escribió: Thx :) On Miércoles 21 Octubre 2009 16:43:26 Álvaro Pinel escribió: I have seen jabber80.com and I want to create an opensource project like it. I don't know if already exists and how to do it. If anyone can help me. Thx! I think that almost every xmpp server can be configured to listen in the port 80 for new connections (normal xmpp connections or HTTP wrapped connections like HTTP-Polling or BOSH) But I think that this webservice must have something more than a wrapped connection. What do you need? Just a jabber/xmpp server listening in the port 80? You will still need a Jabber client to connect A server that listens for xmpp connections over http? This can be useful to avoid proxies. But not all desktop clients support it. Or a web client that allow to connect just using the browser? If you need a webclient take a look to http://xmpp.org/software/clients.shtml the web clients are at the bottom. So you shouldn't need a new project for that, only to setup a server. I will try to use it. ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] xmpp server in port 80 [opensource project]
On Miércoles 21 Octubre 2009 17:33:32 Álvaro Pinel escribió: El Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:26:06 +0200 naw lambda...@gmail.com escribió: On Miércoles 21 Octubre 2009 17:04:38 Álvaro Pinel escribió: El Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:55:00 +0200 naw lambda...@gmail.com escribió: Thx :) On Miércoles 21 Octubre 2009 16:43:26 Álvaro Pinel escribió: I have seen jabber80.com and I want to create an opensource project like it. I don't know if already exists and how to do it. If anyone can help me. Thx! I think that almost every xmpp server can be configured to listen in the port 80 for new connections (normal xmpp connections or HTTP wrapped connections like HTTP-Polling or BOSH) But I think that this webservice must have something more than a wrapped connection. What do you need? We're developing an application to comunicate over firewalls 2 users, only by port 80. And to send and recieve files, chat, instructions. At first, we start with a new library to comunicate over port 80 using http but if we can use xmpp is much better. Oh, then just need to install a server listening in the port 80 and a couple of clients (like pidgin, psi...) Of vcourse, you also can make your own client (there are a lots of libraries to help you http://xmpp.org/software/libraries.shtml ) The usual file transfer method implies to use another connection established between the clients (or through a proxy if it can't be established) But they can also be established through the main connection with the server (In Band Bytestreams, XEP-0047) I'm not sure about which clients support it (I think that at least pidgin does) Also, servers may be configured to throttle client connections, so the transfer can be slow. ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] jabber.org account registration policy
El Viernes 03 Abril 2009, Sander Devrieze escribió: 2009/4/3 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im: http://www.jabber.org/index.php/2009/04/account-registration-policy/ says: The Jabber.org IM service has instituted a new account registration policy. Until further notice, IM accounts can be registered only via the web at register.jabber.org, which means that our longtime practice of allowing in-band registration using an IM client has been disabled. Would it be possible to remove jabber.org from http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml ? I think that list makes no sense when it contains services which are not in-band registration capable... I think that it mades sense to have a list of federated servers. It can be useful for other things. But maybe there should be some aditional information about the servers (if they support in-band registration), or maybe several lists (e.g. one for all servers, another one for servers wich support in-band...) Also, if in-band registration is going to be less used by servers until the implementation of XEP-0158 (captchas) in servers and clients, it could be also useful to provide the registration address as a child element in the list. -- Jabber-ID: lambda...@jabberes.org lambda...@gmail.com ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] gtalk server federation error
El Lunes 02 Febrero 2009, jli...@gmail.com escribió: Hi, I remember I was able to send from gtalk to another server, say, jabber.org, then send a reply from jabber.org to gtalk. However, I notice that although I still can send a message from gtalk to jabber.org, the reply message fails to send. I also tried sending to gizmoproject and observed the same issue. Anyone else is also seeing this? Since some days ago Google's server seems to be rejecting incoming messaages from people that aren't in your roster. For that reason Google users are also unable to join MUC rooms [1]. [1] http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2009-January/000382.html ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Show values of the Presence Message - logout
El Sábado 03 Enero 2009, jli...@gmail.com escribió: Thanks for your reply. I've added that but it doesn't seem to solve my problem. What I'm trying to do is to log in with the same user twice but bind to different resources. And I'd like any of the two instances notified when the other instance logs out. Do I need to explicitly subscribe to the other instances's presence stanzas? When I'm on Home and Psi and I disconnect from Home I get: presence from=x...@jabberes.org/Home type=unavailable to=x...@jabberes.org/Psi / I don't remember to be subscribed explicitly to myself. Hmm. Maybe the servers don't behave the same way. I was experimenting with gtalk... gtalk behaves in the same way presence from=x...@gmail.com/HomeCF82D0B9 type=unavailable to=x...@gmail.com / Did you get the roster (buddy list) from the server? If not, I think that you won't receive presence updates. -- Jabber-ID: lambda...@jabberes.org lambda...@gmail.com ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Show values of the Presence Message - logout
El Viernes 02 Enero 2009, jli...@gmail.com escribió: Hello Maciek, Thanks for your reply. I've added that but it doesn't seem to solve my problem. What I'm trying to do is to log in with the same user twice but bind to different resources. And I'd like any of the two instances notified when the other instance logs out. Do I need to explicitly subscribe to the other instances's presence stanzas? Jack Speaking of presence messages, is there a way to tell from these messages (or by any other means) that a buddy has gone off-line? http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-rfc3921bis-07.html#rfc.s ection.4.7.1 Basically, you send presence type='unavailable'/ When I'm on Home and Psi and I disconnect from Home I get: presence from=x...@jabberes.org/Home type=unavailable to=x...@jabberes.org/Psi / I don't remember to be subscribed explicitly to myself. ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___
Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark
El Martes 23 Septiembre 2008, Peter Saint-Andre escribió: Geof wrote: Note not once are the characters XMPP typed together in the release of Jabber, Inc. acquisition..do you think that was by design, or by accident? Doug Dennerline's blog post talks about extensible presence and messaging: http://blogs.cisco.com/news/comments/jabber_acquisition_and_cisco_collabora tion/ We will be able to provide extensible presence and messaging that can integrate with business process applications and easily adapt to a business’s changing needs. That's an obscure way to say XMPP. It will be only understandable to people that knows what XMPP means, and I think that few of them will notice in the first read. To me, it seems that Cisco is trying to confuse people and make them think that Cisco is the owner of the protocol/IM system/comunity. ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
Re: [jdev] jabber localization project?
El Viernes 15 Agosto 2008, Jonathan Schleifer escribió: I've created this page some time ago http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/Mood_translation but I somehow lost interest (partly because I didn't make other people interested ;-) ). The page is a basic draft intended to create attention. I will add our German mood translations from Gajim there and encourage the translators to do the same. Do you know of any other client that has translated moods? Psi has translated them too, at least to spanish. ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
Re: [jdev] individual emails vs digest
El Martes 08 Julio 2008, Ovidiu Craciun escribió: Hi all, I recently subscribed to JDev@jabber.org and [EMAIL PROTECTED] through http://www.xmpp.org/about/discuss.shtml web page. I get daily email digests and I would like to get instead individual emails as they are sent. How can I change this settings for my subscription? HI On the information page of each list (accesible from http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/ ) you have a unsubscribe or edit options button. And in the subcription mail there is also the address for that: they are like http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/options/LIST/USER%40SERVER for example, if the list is jdev and your email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] the address will be http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/options/jdev/john%40example.net ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
Re: [jdev] [OT] XMPP icons
El Viernes 04 Julio 2008, Sander Devrieze escribió: 2008/7/4 Pedro Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, in case you need XMPP logo icons, I converted the SVG to PNGs 512x512, 256x256, 128x128 and 64x64, both regular and crushed, with alpha channel. You can find them here: http://www.simplicidade.org/me/xmpp.html and in a ZIP here: http://www.simplicidade.org/me/xmpp.zip I've also sent them to Peter, in case he wants to make this available at the xmpp.org site. Please find attached another version of the logo. There also exists a Tango version which you can find in Pidgin. PS: if someone could contribute an Oxygen version of the logo for Coccinella that would be really fine! But the official icon for applications should be the jabber bulb, or the xmpp X? should the apps be renamed from jabber client to xmpp client? I think that most apps use the bulb and are called jabber client but pidgin doesn't, wich is a bit confusing. ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
Re: [jdev] [OT] XMPP icons
El Sábado 05 Julio 2008, JabberForum escribió: What about this little bulb? For my own, I like it... or at least I prefer it to this big X which looks really marketing to me (more than the bulb)... I also prefer Jabber and the bulb to XMPP and the X. And I think that for the average user Jabber is more appealing than XMPP. There is also a user base that knows the system as Jabber I don't like the idea of changing Jabber to XMPP ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
[jdev] Any plans to add new gateways in the XMPP Registrar?
Hello, in the lasts months I have seen new gateways/transports, (like google talk or mxit) There are any plan to add them to the XMPP Registrar? http://www.xmpp.org/registrar/disco-categories.html#gateway
Re: [jdev] Any place for basic definitions?
El Viernes 08 Febrero 2008, tjabber escribió: As a newbie I'm trying to come up to speed on all things jabber for writing an adapter to an existing IM client. I'm finding some of the terminology hard to find definitions for and the mental model a bit difficult to build. For example, in reading the privacy list spec, it was never clear to me why I would need multiple lists and why would I make one active over another? And what is invisibility? I've searched a lot on these, but I haven't found an answer. Thanks for any help. http://www.jabber.org/about/glossary.shtml Invisivility means to be connected but appearing as disconected to your contacts.
