New Apache db project loosely coupled to Apache JDO

2005-04-27 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Brian, Geir,
I'd like to start a sub-project that JDO needs but don't want to 
develop it in Apache JDO, because it goes beyond JDO. It is a memory 
model of relational database schema that can be used for O/R mapping 
GUI applications for JDO and EJB3, as well as the runtime mapping.

Anyway, we could start building it in Apache JDO just because we have 
the infrastructure in place, but would really like *not* to have any 
JDO in the package name.

We would want to call it org.apache.db.model and put interfaces there 
that could be reused by other projects.

I'd also like to have an alias for talking about the model in the 
Apache DB group.

Any of this make sense?
Thanks,
Craig
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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Re: New Apache db project loosely coupled to Apache JDO

2005-04-27 Thread Brian McCallister
Makes sense, and might overlap a lot with the DdlUtils stuff. I cc:ed 
Tom Dudziak who knows a lot about that project.

-Brian
On Apr 27, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Craig Russell wrote:
Hi Brian, Geir,
I'd like to start a sub-project that JDO needs but don't want to 
develop it in Apache JDO, because it goes beyond JDO. It is a memory 
model of relational database schema that can be used for O/R mapping 
GUI applications for JDO and EJB3, as well as the runtime mapping.

Anyway, we could start building it in Apache JDO just because we have 
the infrastructure in place, but would really like *not* to have any 
JDO in the package name.

We would want to call it org.apache.db.model and put interfaces 
there that could be reused by other projects.

I'd also like to have an alias for talking about the model in the 
Apache DB group.

Any of this make sense?
Thanks,
Craig
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!



Re: New Apache db project loosely coupled to Apache JDO

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Bouschen
Hi Brian,
do you have a link to get more details about the DdlUtils stuff?
Regards Michael
Makes sense, and might overlap a lot with the DdlUtils stuff. I cc:ed 
Tom Dudziak who knows a lot about that project.

-Brian
On Apr 27, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Craig Russell wrote:
Hi Brian, Geir,
I'd like to start a sub-project that JDO needs but don't want to 
develop it in Apache JDO, because it goes beyond JDO. It is a memory 
model of relational database schema that can be used for O/R mapping 
GUI applications for JDO and EJB3, as well as the runtime mapping.

Anyway, we could start building it in Apache JDO just because we have 
the infrastructure in place, but would really like *not* to have any 
JDO in the package name.

We would want to call it org.apache.db.model and put interfaces 
there that could be reused by other projects.

I'd also like to have an alias for talking about the model in the 
Apache DB group.

Any of this make sense?
Thanks,
Craig
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


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Re: New Apache db project loosely coupled to Apache JDO

2005-04-27 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Thomas,
Just today I looked for something like the ddlutils at the apache db 
web site and came up dry. Thanks for the info.

We will be looking at this with keen interest, so let us know (via the 
alias of course) what it happening!

Thanks,
Craig
On Apr 27, 2005, at 11:05 AM, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
Brian McCallister wrote:
On Apr 27, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Michael Bouschen wrote:
Hi Brian,
do you have a link to get more details about the DdlUtils stuff?

http://db.apache.org/ddlutils/

DdlUtils and its site are freshly migrated, I need to update and 
enhance it in the next days. Feel free to register at the mailing 
lists:

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FYI, one of the main purposes of the migration of commons-sql to 
db.apache.org is that Torque and OJB (and others) can create/maintain 
a common codebase for DDL-related stuff, e.g. working with a database 
schema in code, creating/altering/deleting/dumping this database 
schema etc.

Tom

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


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