Re: Use Master/Slave architecture on the same linux machine.

[Mark Waite]

Slave resource usage depends very much on the build jobs you run on the
slave.  Your use case (a separate slave logged in as this specific user)
seems unlikely to cause you to create less than 5 additional slaves on that
machine.  General jobs will associate with the default slave.  Jobs which
require the specific permissions of that user will associate with the slave
designated (and labeled) for that user.

Mark Waite

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 6:38 AM iostrym  wrote:

> Thanks a lot. tested with success. master and slave on same unix machine
> without doing anything else that playing with "add a node" in Jenkins
> administration.
>
> Concerning ressource taken by jenkins slave. do you have an idea ? Because
> if we need one slave per user on the unix machine, there could be a
> ressource problem.
>
> Le samedi 10 octobre 2015 00:02:43 UTC+2, Mark Waite a écrit :
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:58 PM armando  wrote:
>>
>>> thanks a lot for details.
>>>
>>> I was told that one jenkins installation must be configured as master OR
>>> slave.
>>>
>>> When I read your post, it seems that it is possible to configure a slave
>>> on the same machine without installing another Jenkins installation and
>>> configure it as a slave:
>>>
>>> one jenkins installation could be configured as a master and also be
>>> used to configure other slaves ? right ?
>>>
>>
>> That's right.
>>
>> The general guidance is one slave per machine because a single slave can
>> have multiple executors.  Executors are lighter weight than slaves, since
>> they exist within a slave.  Your use case is atypical because you need
>> different system level attributes (logged in user, signing certificate
>> access, etc.) for different jobs.
>>
>> Mark Waite
>>
>>
> 2015-10-09 23:51 GMT+02:00 Mark Waite :
>>>
>> I can confirm that it is possible to have a master and a slave on the
 same Linux machine where the master runs as one user and the slave runs as
 another user.

 It is atypical because most Jenkins users don't need a specific user to
 execute their build steps.  It is not abnormal or hard to do.

 I've never seen any documentation which describes how to do that,
 though there are help icons beside each of the fields which control that
 behavior.

 Using our Jenkins server (running as the user "jenkins"), I configured
 a slave to run as the user "mwaite" on the same machine by configuring a
 slave, and selecting credentials for the user mwaite from the "Advanced"
 section of the Jenkins nodes configuration page.  Then I ran a job on that
 slave which executed the command "id".  That command showed that the slave
 is running as the user "mwaite" as expected.

 Mark Waite

>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:15 PM iostrym  wrote:

>>> Thanks a lot for your answer.
>
> Then can you confirm me that it is possible to have a master (user
> jenkins) and its slave (user TOTO) on the same linux machine ?
>
> If yes, is it a abnormal and tricky way of doing (hard to do, badly
> documented, with low chance of success) or is it a common way of doing ?
>
>
> Le vendredi 9 octobre 2015 22:58:05 UTC+2, Mark Waite a écrit :
>
>> The Jenkins slave launch will allow you to launch the slave as the
>> user TOTO.  Then all jobs which run on that slave will be executed as the
>> user TOTO.  You can even run multiple slaves as the same user (though I
>> don't know why you would), so long as you use a distinct directory for 
>> each
>> of the slaves.
>>
>> Mark Waite
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM iostrym  wrote:
>>
> We have a multi-user linux server.
>>>
>>> Jenkins in installed and configured as master.
>>>
>>> Some jobs need to be run by a user TOTO for some specific reasons
>>> (license access for example)
>>>
>>> One of our solution is to use "execute shell script on remote host
>>> using ssh" but then the workspace is still on the jenkins user whereas 
>>> data
>>> are generated on the TOTO home directory. We would like to avoid a 
>>> script
>>> to move data generated (pretty dirty)
>>>
>>> So I wonder if it is possible to install a slave jenkins for each
>>> user on the same linux machine ? Then the job workspace will be on TOTO
>>> homespace.
>>>
>>> What is the most-used multi-user linux architecture for Jenkins ?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
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Re: Use Master/Slave architecture on the same linux machine.

[iostrym]

Thanks a lot. tested with success. master and slave on same unix machine 
without doing anything else that playing with "add a node" in Jenkins 
administration.

Concerning ressource taken by jenkins slave. do you have an idea ? Because 
if we need one slave per user on the unix machine, there could be a 
ressource problem.

Le samedi 10 octobre 2015 00:02:43 UTC+2, Mark Waite a écrit :
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:58 PM armando  > wrote:
>
>> thanks a lot for details. 
>>
>> I was told that one jenkins installation must be configured as master OR 
>> slave.
>>
>> When I read your post, it seems that it is possible to configure a slave 
>> on the same machine without installing another Jenkins installation and 
>> configure it as a slave:
>>
>> one jenkins installation could be configured as a master and also be used 
>> to configure other slaves ? right ?
>>
>
> That's right.
>
> The general guidance is one slave per machine because a single slave can 
> have multiple executors.  Executors are lighter weight than slaves, since 
> they exist within a slave.  Your use case is atypical because you need 
> different system level attributes (logged in user, signing certificate 
> access, etc.) for different jobs.
>
> Mark Waite
>  
>
>> 2015-10-09 23:51 GMT+02:00 Mark Waite 
>> >:
>>
>>> I can confirm that it is possible to have a master and a slave on the 
>>> same Linux machine where the master runs as one user and the slave runs as 
>>> another user.
>>>
>>> It is atypical because most Jenkins users don't need a specific user to 
>>> execute their build steps.  It is not abnormal or hard to do.
>>>
>>> I've never seen any documentation which describes how to do that, though 
>>> there are help icons beside each of the fields which control that behavior.
>>>
>>> Using our Jenkins server (running as the user "jenkins"), I configured a 
>>> slave to run as the user "mwaite" on the same machine by configuring a 
>>> slave, and selecting credentials for the user mwaite from the "Advanced" 
>>> section of the Jenkins nodes configuration page.  Then I ran a job on that 
>>> slave which executed the command "id".  That command showed that the slave 
>>> is running as the user "mwaite" as expected.
>>>
>>> Mark Waite
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:15 PM iostrym > 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks a lot for your answer.

 Then can you confirm me that it is possible to have a master (user 
 jenkins) and its slave (user TOTO) on the same linux machine ?

 If yes, is it a abnormal and tricky way of doing (hard to do, badly 
 documented, with low chance of success) or is it a common way of doing ?


 Le vendredi 9 octobre 2015 22:58:05 UTC+2, Mark Waite a écrit :

> The Jenkins slave launch will allow you to launch the slave as the 
> user TOTO.  Then all jobs which run on that slave will be executed as the 
> user TOTO.  You can even run multiple slaves as the same user (though I 
> don't know why you would), so long as you use a distinct directory for 
> each 
> of the slaves.
>
> Mark Waite
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM iostrym  wrote:
>
 We have a multi-user linux server.
>>
>> Jenkins in installed and configured as master.
>>
>> Some jobs need to be run by a user TOTO for some specific reasons 
>> (license access for example)
>>
>> One of our solution is to use "execute shell script on remote host 
>> using ssh" but then the workspace is still on the jenkins user whereas 
>> data 
>> are generated on the TOTO home directory. We would like to avoid a 
>> script 
>> to move data generated (pretty dirty)
>>
>> So I wonder if it is possible to install a slave jenkins for each 
>> user on the same linux machine ? Then the job workspace will be on TOTO 
>> homespace.
>>
>> What is the most-used multi-user linux architecture for Jenkins ? 
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
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Re: Use Master/Slave architecture on the same linux machine.

[Mark Waite]

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:58 PM armando  wrote:

> thanks a lot for details.
>
> I was told that one jenkins installation must be configured as master OR
> slave.
>
> When I read your post, it seems that it is possible to configure a slave
> on the same machine without installing another Jenkins installation and
> configure it as a slave:
>
> one jenkins installation could be configured as a master and also be used
> to configure other slaves ? right ?
>

That's right.

The general guidance is one slave per machine because a single slave can
have multiple executors.  Executors are lighter weight than slaves, since
they exist within a slave.  Your use case is atypical because you need
different system level attributes (logged in user, signing certificate
access, etc.) for different jobs.

Mark Waite


> 2015-10-09 23:51 GMT+02:00 Mark Waite :
>
>> I can confirm that it is possible to have a master and a slave on the
>> same Linux machine where the master runs as one user and the slave runs as
>> another user.
>>
>> It is atypical because most Jenkins users don't need a specific user to
>> execute their build steps.  It is not abnormal or hard to do.
>>
>> I've never seen any documentation which describes how to do that, though
>> there are help icons beside each of the fields which control that behavior.
>>
>> Using our Jenkins server (running as the user "jenkins"), I configured a
>> slave to run as the user "mwaite" on the same machine by configuring a
>> slave, and selecting credentials for the user mwaite from the "Advanced"
>> section of the Jenkins nodes configuration page.  Then I ran a job on that
>> slave which executed the command "id".  That command showed that the slave
>> is running as the user "mwaite" as expected.
>>
>> Mark Waite
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:15 PM iostrym  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot for your answer.
>>>
>>> Then can you confirm me that it is possible to have a master (user
>>> jenkins) and its slave (user TOTO) on the same linux machine ?
>>>
>>> If yes, is it a abnormal and tricky way of doing (hard to do, badly
>>> documented, with low chance of success) or is it a common way of doing ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Le vendredi 9 octobre 2015 22:58:05 UTC+2, Mark Waite a écrit :
>>>
 The Jenkins slave launch will allow you to launch the slave as the user
 TOTO.  Then all jobs which run on that slave will be executed as the user
 TOTO.  You can even run multiple slaves as the same user (though I don't
 know why you would), so long as you use a distinct directory for each of
 the slaves.

 Mark Waite

 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM iostrym  wrote:

>>> We have a multi-user linux server.
>
> Jenkins in installed and configured as master.
>
> Some jobs need to be run by a user TOTO for some specific reasons
> (license access for example)
>
> One of our solution is to use "execute shell script on remote host
> using ssh" but then the workspace is still on the jenkins user whereas 
> data
> are generated on the TOTO home directory. We would like to avoid a script
> to move data generated (pretty dirty)
>
> So I wonder if it is possible to install a slave jenkins for each user
> on the same linux machine ? Then the job workspace will be on TOTO
> homespace.
>
> What is the most-used multi-user linux architecture for Jenkins ?
>
> Best regards,
>
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Re: Use Master/Slave architecture on the same linux machine.

[armandooooo]

thanks a lot for details.

I was told that one jenkins installation must be configured as master OR
slave.

When I read your post, it seems that it is possible to configure a slave on
the same machine without installing another Jenkins installation and
configure it as a slave:

one jenkins installation could be configured as a master and also be used
to configure other slaves ? right ?

2015-10-09 23:51 GMT+02:00 Mark Waite :

> I can confirm that it is possible to have a master and a slave on the same
> Linux machine where the master runs as one user and the slave runs as
> another user.
>
> It is atypical because most Jenkins users don't need a specific user to
> execute their build steps.  It is not abnormal or hard to do.
>
> I've never seen any documentation which describes how to do that, though
> there are help icons beside each of the fields which control that behavior.
>
> Using our Jenkins server (running as the user "jenkins"), I configured a
> slave to run as the user "mwaite" on the same machine by configuring a
> slave, and selecting credentials for the user mwaite from the "Advanced"
> section of the Jenkins nodes configuration page.  Then I ran a job on that
> slave which executed the command "id".  That command showed that the slave
> is running as the user "mwaite" as expected.
>
> Mark Waite
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:15 PM iostrym  wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot for your answer.
>>
>> Then can you confirm me that it is possible to have a master (user
>> jenkins) and its slave (user TOTO) on the same linux machine ?
>>
>> If yes, is it a abnormal and tricky way of doing (hard to do, badly
>> documented, with low chance of success) or is it a common way of doing ?
>>
>>
>> Le vendredi 9 octobre 2015 22:58:05 UTC+2, Mark Waite a écrit :
>>
>>> The Jenkins slave launch will allow you to launch the slave as the user
>>> TOTO.  Then all jobs which run on that slave will be executed as the user
>>> TOTO.  You can even run multiple slaves as the same user (though I don't
>>> know why you would), so long as you use a distinct directory for each of
>>> the slaves.
>>>
>>> Mark Waite
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM iostrym  wrote:
>>>
>> We have a multi-user linux server.

 Jenkins in installed and configured as master.

 Some jobs need to be run by a user TOTO for some specific reasons
 (license access for example)

 One of our solution is to use "execute shell script on remote host
 using ssh" but then the workspace is still on the jenkins user whereas data
 are generated on the TOTO home directory. We would like to avoid a script
 to move data generated (pretty dirty)

 So I wonder if it is possible to install a slave jenkins for each user
 on the same linux machine ? Then the job workspace will be on TOTO
 homespace.

 What is the most-used multi-user linux architecture for Jenkins ?

 Best regards,

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Re: Use Master/Slave architecture on the same linux machine.

[Mark Waite]

I can confirm that it is possible to have a master and a slave on the same
Linux machine where the master runs as one user and the slave runs as
another user.

It is atypical because most Jenkins users don't need a specific user to
execute their build steps.  It is not abnormal or hard to do.

I've never seen any documentation which describes how to do that, though
there are help icons beside each of the fields which control that behavior.

Using our Jenkins server (running as the user "jenkins"), I configured a
slave to run as the user "mwaite" on the same machine by configuring a
slave, and selecting credentials for the user mwaite from the "Advanced"
section of the Jenkins nodes configuration page.  Then I ran a job on that
slave which executed the command "id".  That command showed that the slave
is running as the user "mwaite" as expected.

Mark Waite

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:15 PM iostrym  wrote:

> Thanks a lot for your answer.
>
> Then can you confirm me that it is possible to have a master (user
> jenkins) and its slave (user TOTO) on the same linux machine ?
>
> If yes, is it a abnormal and tricky way of doing (hard to do, badly
> documented, with low chance of success) or is it a common way of doing ?
>
>
> Le vendredi 9 octobre 2015 22:58:05 UTC+2, Mark Waite a écrit :
>
>> The Jenkins slave launch will allow you to launch the slave as the user
>> TOTO.  Then all jobs which run on that slave will be executed as the user
>> TOTO.  You can even run multiple slaves as the same user (though I don't
>> know why you would), so long as you use a distinct directory for each of
>> the slaves.
>>
>> Mark Waite
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM iostrym  wrote:
>>
> We have a multi-user linux server.
>>>
>>> Jenkins in installed and configured as master.
>>>
>>> Some jobs need to be run by a user TOTO for some specific reasons
>>> (license access for example)
>>>
>>> One of our solution is to use "execute shell script on remote host
>>> using ssh" but then the workspace is still on the jenkins user whereas data
>>> are generated on the TOTO home directory. We would like to avoid a script
>>> to move data generated (pretty dirty)
>>>
>>> So I wonder if it is possible to install a slave jenkins for each user
>>> on the same linux machine ? Then the job workspace will be on TOTO
>>> homespace.
>>>
>>> What is the most-used multi-user linux architecture for Jenkins ?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
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Re: Use Master/Slave architecture on the same linux machine.

[iostrym]

Thanks a lot for your answer.

Then can you confirm me that it is possible to have a master (user jenkins) 
and its slave (user TOTO) on the same linux machine ?

If yes, is it a abnormal and tricky way of doing (hard to do, badly 
documented, with low chance of success) or is it a common way of doing ?

Le vendredi 9 octobre 2015 22:58:05 UTC+2, Mark Waite a écrit :
>
> The Jenkins slave launch will allow you to launch the slave as the user 
> TOTO.  Then all jobs which run on that slave will be executed as the user 
> TOTO.  You can even run multiple slaves as the same user (though I don't 
> know why you would), so long as you use a distinct directory for each of 
> the slaves.
>
> Mark Waite
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM iostrym > 
> wrote:
>
>> We have a multi-user linux server.
>>
>> Jenkins in installed and configured as master.
>>
>> Some jobs need to be run by a user TOTO for some specific reasons 
>> (license access for example)
>>
>> One of our solution is to use "execute shell script on remote host using 
>> ssh" but then the workspace is still on the jenkins user whereas data are 
>> generated on the TOTO home directory. We would like to avoid a script to 
>> move data generated (pretty dirty)
>>
>> So I wonder if it is possible to install a slave jenkins for each user on 
>> the same linux machine ? Then the job workspace will be on TOTO homespace.
>>
>> What is the most-used multi-user linux architecture for Jenkins ? 
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
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Re: Use Master/Slave architecture on the same linux machine.

[Mark Waite]

The Jenkins slave launch will allow you to launch the slave as the user
TOTO.  Then all jobs which run on that slave will be executed as the user
TOTO.  You can even run multiple slaves as the same user (though I don't
know why you would), so long as you use a distinct directory for each of
the slaves.

Mark Waite

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM iostrym  wrote:

> We have a multi-user linux server.
>
> Jenkins in installed and configured as master.
>
> Some jobs need to be run by a user TOTO for some specific reasons (license
> access for example)
>
> One of our solution is to use "execute shell script on remote host using
> ssh" but then the workspace is still on the jenkins user whereas data are
> generated on the TOTO home directory. We would like to avoid a script to
> move data generated (pretty dirty)
>
> So I wonder if it is possible to install a slave jenkins for each user on
> the same linux machine ? Then the job workspace will be on TOTO homespace.
>
> What is the most-used multi-user linux architecture for Jenkins ?
>
> Best regards,
>
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