Re: dynamic popup memus
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 15:44 -0500, Marek Gimza wrote: > Yes .. that is a good point. snip... > > > > ** > This message is confidential and intended only for the > addressee. If you have received this message in error, please > immediately notify the postmas...@nds.com and delete it from > your system as well as any copies. The content of e-mails as > well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for employment > and security purposes. To protect the environment please do > not print this e-mail unless necessary. > > NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, > Middlesex, TW18 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in > England and Wales. Registered no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 > 40-00 > > ** > > > > > > > -- > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, > copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of > the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended > addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please > notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, > copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or > attached to the e-mail. > Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the > individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. > Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or > any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept > liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of > software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the > message. > Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered > in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond > House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, > Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom > Hover-activated popup menus are almost as annoying as top posting and ridiculous disclaimers attached to email sent to lists. -C
Re: dynamic popup memus
James, R U trying to copy and paste contents from the menu list? May I ask what your objective is in performing a copy & paste. I think that by explaining your objective and "user-case" scenario would better help the Jenkins "owners" understand your frustration. Kind Regards, Mgimza On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:35 AM, wrote: > Agreed. I find the inability to copy text from the web interface > particularly frustrating. > > ** ** > > I don’t want to be too critical of the Jenkins developers – we all benefit > from the work a lot of people put in to drive the product forward, but I > think we have to accept that sometimes well-intentioned ideas turn out to > be bad ones, and I think the menu changes are in that category. We’ve all > done things that later on turned out not to be so good. Or maybe some > people like the new menus? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com [mailto: > jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Nord, James > *Sent:* 09 November 2012 16:30 > *To:* jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* dynamic popup memus > > ** ** > > Arrghhh! > > > > Well now that’s got your attention/back up[1] I would like to provide some > feedback as to why I’m saying “Arrghhh” and the uses cases that I find are > now killed because of it. > > > > I constantly find myself cutting and pasting bits of info from Jenkins to > place elsewhere and half way through selecting the piece of information I > need the popup menu appears – and this causes the selection to be > deselected – so when the mouse is still moving to select some more bits you > end up with the first bit selected no longer being in the selection :-o*** > * > > (this gets even worse when using a track pad rather than a mouse as you > need to re-position your finger – so selection takes even longer than it > would with a mouse) > > > > The other is I know where the menu is relative to a co-ordinate so I may > move my mouse without speed to the link I want. > > When I do this without looking – (well you touch type so why not touch > mouse!) you sometimes get a popup whilst the mouse is moving and select an > item from the popup not the link that is now hidden by the popup. > > > > They do not disappear with the same stimulus method that enabled them to > appear (that is you can not dismiss them by moving the mouse) (which is > what the weather ones allow you to do – they disappear as soon as you mouse > out of the weather icon – or popup). Even the weather popup can get > obtrusive at times (think a folder with many jobs under it). > > > > I have also found (but can’t recall on which tooltip) that I wanted to get > a “tooltip” (I think it was estimated time left of a build job) and the > tooltip was then covered up by the popup menu – rendering the tooltip > unreadable. > > > > Note things may have moved on as I am on LTS. Chrome is the brower of > choice… > > > > /James > > > > [1] delete as applicable > > ** ** > -- > > > > > ** > This message is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you > have received this message in error, please immediately notify the > postmas...@nds.com and delete it from your system as well as any copies. > The content of e-mails as well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for > employment and security purposes. To protect the environment please do not > print this e-mail unless necessary. > > NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, Middlesex, TW18 > 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales. Registered > no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 > > ** > > > > > -- > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or > privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If > you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the > addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not > use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to > the e-mail. > Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and > not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. > Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any > attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any > damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be > transmitted in or with the message. > Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England > and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and > Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom > > >
RE: dynamic popup memus
Agreed. I find the inability to copy text from the web interface particularly frustrating. I don’t want to be too critical of the Jenkins developers – we all benefit from the work a lot of people put in to drive the product forward, but I think we have to accept that sometimes well-intentioned ideas turn out to be bad ones, and I think the menu changes are in that category. We’ve all done things that later on turned out not to be so good. Or maybe some people like the new menus? From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nord, James Sent: 09 November 2012 16:30 To: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com Subject: dynamic popup memus Arrghhh! Well now that’s got your attention/back up[1] I would like to provide some feedback as to why I’m saying “Arrghhh” and the uses cases that I find are now killed because of it. I constantly find myself cutting and pasting bits of info from Jenkins to place elsewhere and half way through selecting the piece of information I need the popup menu appears – and this causes the selection to be deselected – so when the mouse is still moving to select some more bits you end up with the first bit selected no longer being in the selection :-o (this gets even worse when using a track pad rather than a mouse as you need to re-position your finger – so selection takes even longer than it would with a mouse) The other is I know where the menu is relative to a co-ordinate so I may move my mouse without speed to the link I want. When I do this without looking – (well you touch type so why not touch mouse!) you sometimes get a popup whilst the mouse is moving and select an item from the popup not the link that is now hidden by the popup. They do not disappear with the same stimulus method that enabled them to appear (that is you can not dismiss them by moving the mouse) (which is what the weather ones allow you to do – they disappear as soon as you mouse out of the weather icon – or popup). Even the weather popup can get obtrusive at times (think a folder with many jobs under it). I have also found (but can’t recall on which tooltip) that I wanted to get a “tooltip” (I think it was estimated time left of a build job) and the tooltip was then covered up by the popup menu – rendering the tooltip unreadable. Note things may have moved on as I am on LTS. Chrome is the brower of choice… /James [1] delete as applicable ** This message is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the postmas...@nds.com<mailto:postmas...@nds.com> and delete it from your system as well as any copies. The content of e-mails as well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for employment and security purposes. To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, Middlesex, TW18 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales. Registered no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 ** -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom
dynamic popup memus
Arrghhh! Well now that's got your attention/back up[1] I would like to provide some feedback as to why I'm saying "Arrghhh" and the uses cases that I find are now killed because of it. I constantly find myself cutting and pasting bits of info from Jenkins to place elsewhere and half way through selecting the piece of information I need the popup menu appears - and this causes the selection to be deselected - so when the mouse is still moving to select some more bits you end up with the first bit selected no longer being in the selection :-o (this gets even worse when using a track pad rather than a mouse as you need to re-position your finger - so selection takes even longer than it would with a mouse) The other is I know where the menu is relative to a co-ordinate so I may move my mouse without speed to the link I want. When I do this without looking - (well you touch type so why not touch mouse!) you sometimes get a popup whilst the mouse is moving and select an item from the popup not the link that is now hidden by the popup. They do not disappear with the same stimulus method that enabled them to appear (that is you can not dismiss them by moving the mouse) (which is what the weather ones allow you to do - they disappear as soon as you mouse out of the weather icon - or popup). Even the weather popup can get obtrusive at times (think a folder with many jobs under it). I have also found (but can't recall on which tooltip) that I wanted to get a "tooltip" (I think it was estimated time left of a build job) and the tooltip was then covered up by the popup menu - rendering the tooltip unreadable. Note things may have moved on as I am on LTS. Chrome is the brower of choice... /James [1] delete as applicable ** This message is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the postmas...@nds.com and delete it from your system as well as any copies. The content of e-mails as well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for employment and security purposes. To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, Middlesex, TW18 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales. Registered no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 **
