JESS: [EXTERNAL] Nested not/and syntax question

2012-01-06 Thread Theodore Patkos

Hello everyone and best wishes for the new year

could someone please give me an explanation why the following two rules 
behave in a different way, although they express the same logical 
formula (i.e., not (Object ^ Pred) )? In fact, only the second rule 
reaches correct conclusions, as I note below.


(defrule Rule1
(not
   (and
  ?o - (Object (name B))
  (Pred (obj ?o))
))
=
(printout t OK1 crlf)
)


(defrule Rule2
(or
   (not (Object (name B)))
   (and
  ?o - (Object (name B))
  (not (Pred (obj ?o)))
))
=
(printout t OK2 crlf)
)

The definition of facts could be like:
(deftemplate Object (slot name))
(assert (Object (name A)))
(assert (Object (name B)))
(deftemplate Pred (slot obj))

where obj is the id of some Object fact, eg.

(defrule Rule
(declare (salience 10))
?o - (Object (name A))
=
(assert (Pred (obj ?o)))
)


What I notice is that Rule1 behaves erroneously when the Object fact 
exists in the KB, but not the Pred fact: although it is supposed to be 
triggered, it is not! Rule2, on the other hand, behaves correctly all 
the times.


When both Object and Pred facts exist or when the Object does not exist, 
both rules behave fine.


So, what is wrong with the syntax of the first rule? No variable 
definition is used outside the not pattern..


Thanks

Theodore



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Re: JESS: Nested not/and syntax question

2012-01-06 Thread Friedman-Hill, Ernest
The difference is actually that the not in Rule1 doesn't have a
preceding pattern, and therefore Jess inserts (initial-fact), so that
the rule won't work unless you've executed (reset) at the beginning of
the session, as described in section 6.10 of the Jess 7.1 manual. See

http://www.jessrules.com/jess/docs/71/rules.html#not_ce


On 1/6/12 8:40 AM, Theodore Patkos pat...@ics.forth.gr wrote:

Hello everyone and best wishes for the new year

could someone please give me an explanation why the following two rules
behave in a different way, although they express the same logical
formula (i.e., not (Object ^ Pred) )? In fact, only the second rule
reaches correct conclusions, as I note below.

(defrule Rule1
(not
(and
   ?o - (Object (name B))
   (Pred (obj ?o))
))
=
(printout t OK1 crlf)
)


(defrule Rule2
(or
(not (Object (name B)))
(and
   ?o - (Object (name B))
   (not (Pred (obj ?o)))
))
=
(printout t OK2 crlf)
)

The definition of facts could be like:
(deftemplate Object (slot name))
(assert (Object (name A)))
(assert (Object (name B)))
(deftemplate Pred (slot obj))

where obj is the id of some Object fact, eg.

(defrule Rule
(declare (salience 10))
?o - (Object (name A))
=
(assert (Pred (obj ?o)))
)


What I notice is that Rule1 behaves erroneously when the Object fact
exists in the KB, but not the Pred fact: although it is supposed to be
triggered, it is not! Rule2, on the other hand, behaves correctly all
the times.

When both Object and Pred facts exist or when the Object does not exist,
both rules behave fine.

So, what is wrong with the syntax of the first rule? No variable
definition is used outside the not pattern..

Thanks

Theodore



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