Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?
Optimization for the jvm http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/tooldocs/linux/java.html http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/tooldocs/solaris/java.html http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/tooldocs/win32/java.html in the catalina.bat use CATALINA_OPTS or JAVA_OPS noth both - Original Message - From: Anandkumar Ayyachamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jetspeed Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:24 AM Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed? In the catalina .bat file Carlos Orrego wrote: sorry for the dumb question, but where do you set the CATALINA_OPTIONS to set -Xmx and -Xms parameters? i have been trying to do this for a while with no luck thx carlos -Original Message- From: Saddest OfAllKeys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:29 PM To: Jetspeed Users List Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed? I'm no expert but try the following: -- change all logging levels in the ~/WEB-INF/conf/*.properties files to be INFO instead of DEBUG -- give Tomcat a lot of memory via the CATALINA_OPTIONS. e.g. -Xmx256m and -Xms128m -- look for velocity caching options in TurbineResources.properties and turn it on Please let us know if you find anything else that helps. thanks, Mike --- Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, I'm a newbie too. Welcome. Something I noticed is that some of the example portlets will take a while when you refresh the page (especially if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are having problems). Have you tried making your new portlet the only one on your current pane? That would rule out the effect of other portlets interfering with response time. If that does it, then you can slowly add portlets to identify the problem causer... Woody [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM Hi, I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its functionality etc. My only concern about using it in production is with response time. A user portal page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with just a 'hello world' portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have some fairly intensive servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds. (800MHz, NT, 256Mb, JRun servlet engine.) My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box. cachedOnName=true cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets. Are my response times the norm or am I missing something? Would using external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things (I've tried SQL server and Sybase with no luck).? Thanks! Andrew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Psml management
Hi Metthew, I was thinking about giving psml to users depending on the role as well, but I came to the conclusion that this doesn't make sense because: When people subscribe (i. e. create a new account) they get one specified role anyway. Or do you leave to visitors to choose which role they want to have ? But then, when roles mean security restrictions, your securtiy is gone, because people can choose their role freely. So I thought it would be better to have the assignment of psmls if the administrator gives roles to users. One more problem: What to do if the user has got multiple roles - which psml take then ? Do you know what the built-in role-based psml does in such a case ? Thanks for your answers and sorry for asking questions instead of helping you. Stefan Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 23:55 schrieben Sie: Here are my experiences with the jetspeed psml management system. I've had to change a couple things in ways which somebody else might find useful (please let me know if so!) Also, I am discovering that I may have a (hopefully reconcilable) philosophical problem with PSML. Before I begin, our portal (still in development stage) can be seen at http://nurse.ri.seawave.com:8180/portal/portal You can log in using testcrew/password. We don't plan on letting our users customize their portal pages at all in terms of the layout, presence or absence of certain portlets. However, we need to give them ways to customize attributes of their existing portlets. We also need to service more than one TYPE of user, each with a different pre-defined set of panes and portlets. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we can't use role-based PSML because that would prevent the use of individual settings any change to a portlet attribute would then be seen by ALL other users in the same role. Also, there is no single user from whom psml files for new users could be copied, because that wouldn't allow for different layouts for different types of users. So I changed JetspeedSecurity to point to my own UserManagement class, and overrode the addDefaultPSML() method to make a copy of the psml associated with the user's role rather than the psml of another user (like turbine). Not a huge deal, but now I am arriving at what seems to be a bigger problem: Although the psml file of a user will differ from those of his/her peers only in very narrowly defined ways (only in the manipulation of attributes for portlets), each user still has a separate copy of the file. This means that as we add new functionality to our portal, adding new portlets and presumably moving the existing ones around somewhat, ONLY new users will benefit from these changes. Everytime we want to add a new portlet, we'll have to write a script that will iterate through everyone's psml and manipulate the xml in a certain way, adding entries for the new portlet the exact type of thing that was supposed to be short-circuited by the Customizer. Presumably this will have to be done when the server is shut down, because otherwise the psml files of any currently-logged-in users will be overwritten back to their old state when a they log out. Aren't the notions of CONTENT and SETTINGS separable? Shouldn't this information be stored in 2 separate files? Did I miss some way that the current psml system can allow for this? If not, how much work would have to be done to allow for this? I would certainly be willing to adopt such a project rather than resorting to the mass update script strategy mentioned above... - Matthew Forsyth Seawave.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com -- Stefan Kuhn M. A. MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745 Jena, Germany Tel: +49(0)3641 571261 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Psml management
Good questions... strictly out-of the box role-based-psml also wouldn't work for us for the same reason, some users have more than one role. I have some custom logic that only looks at the particular roles which are associated with a layout type... in the database these roles aren't differentiated from other roles in any way. The question of users getting to chose their own role doesn't apply to us; in fact users can't even directly sign themselves up to jetspeed. Their jetspeed account only gets created in response to an external process which knows which role they are supposed to be. -matt --- Stefan Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Metthew, I was thinking about giving psml to users depending on the role as well, but I came to the conclusion that this doesn't make sense because: When people subscribe (i. e. create a new account) they get one specified role anyway. Or do you leave to visitors to choose which role they want to have ? But then, when roles mean security restrictions, your securtiy is gone, because people can choose their role freely. So I thought it would be better to have the assignment of psmls if the administrator gives roles to users. One more problem: What to do if the user has got multiple roles - which psml take then ? Do you know what the built-in role-based psml does in such a case ? Thanks for your answers and sorry for asking questions instead of helping you. Stefan Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 23:55 schrieben Sie: Here are my experiences with the jetspeed psml management system. I've had to change a couple things in ways which somebody else might find useful (please let me know if so!) Also, I am discovering that I may have a (hopefully reconcilable) philosophical problem with PSML. Before I begin, our portal (still in development stage) can be seen at http://nurse.ri.seawave.com:8180/portal/portal You can log in using testcrew/password. We don't plan on letting our users customize their portal pages at all in terms of the layout, presence or absence of certain portlets. However, we need to give them ways to customize attributes of their existing portlets. We also need to service more than one TYPE of user, each with a different pre-defined set of panes and portlets. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we can't use role-based PSML because that would prevent the use of individual settings any change to a portlet attribute would then be seen by ALL other users in the same role. Also, there is no single user from whom psml files for new users could be copied, because that wouldn't allow for different layouts for different types of users. So I changed JetspeedSecurity to point to my own UserManagement class, and overrode the addDefaultPSML() method to make a copy of the psml associated with the user's role rather than the psml of another user (like turbine). Not a huge deal, but now I am arriving at what seems to be a bigger problem: Although the psml file of a user will differ from those of his/her peers only in very narrowly defined ways (only in the manipulation of attributes for portlets), each user still has a separate copy of the file. This means that as we add new functionality to our portal, adding new portlets and presumably moving the existing ones around somewhat, ONLY new users will benefit from these changes. Everytime we want to add a new portlet, we'll have to write a script that will iterate through everyone's psml and manipulate the xml in a certain way, adding entries for the new portlet the exact type of thing that was supposed to be short-circuited by the Customizer. Presumably this will have to be done when the server is shut down, because otherwise the psml files of any currently-logged-in users will be overwritten back to their old state when a they log out. Aren't the notions of CONTENT and SETTINGS separable? Shouldn't this information be stored in 2 separate files? Did I miss some way that the current psml system can allow for this? If not, how much work would have to be done to allow for this? I would certainly be willing to adopt such a project rather than resorting to the mass update script strategy mentioned above... - Matthew Forsyth Seawave.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com -- Stefan Kuhn M. A. MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745 Jena, Germany Tel: +49(0)3641 571261 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe,
addMediaType() for portlet-entry?
Hi, I create a portlet-entry by using BasePortletEntry() BasePortletEntry bpe = new BasePortletEntry(); Then I add MediaType like this bpe.addMediaType(html); But there is an error java.lang.NullPointerException occured. So the portlet-entry can't be created in .xreg file. Can you help me to add Media Type for portlet entry? I'm using Tomcat4.0.3 and Jetspeed 1.4b1 Thank you very much! Thai -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room: C34 Tel: 524-7099 -- This mail sent through AIT WebMail : http://www.ait.ac.th/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
some (newbie) question about using Jetspeed
(first of all, sorry for my english, i'm french) Hi all. I'm quite new to Jetspeed, and really impressed by what can be done with it. I have to make an architectural proposal for a project, and building a portal seem to be a good approach. However, after installing, testing my (simple) own portlets, and reading all the docs i could about Jetspeed, i have a few questions. The answers might help to decide wether or not Jetspeed is suited for my project (i'd like it to...) First of all : in the portal we want to build, navigation have to be possible within a portlet. The concerned portlet is a dynamic page (JSP or servlet). I read in the archives that it is possible to navigate (within a portlet) through html pages, but what about JSPservlets ? Is it possible to keep the state of portlets ? (i mean, for example, is it possible that an IFrame portlet doesn't go back to its base URL after reloading... i'm quite unconfident about that...) I installed an JSP navigation extension (which can be downloaded at : http://grids.ucs.indiana.edu/users/balsoy/jetspeed/MyJSP.zip), which allows the navigation between JSPs, the next JSP being the parameter of an Action Form. Is it possible to do the same (navigation) through classic html links ? I know my questions might seem dumb, and time consuming to read, but some help will be VERY appreciated, since i am confused with Jetspeed restrictions... Thanks for all. Mike from France
Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?
Success! Just to follow up, I modified TurbineResources.properties and changed all logging from DEBUG to INFO. I also enabled some more caching as follows: module.cache=true services.VelocityService.file.resource.loader.cache = true This has had quite a noticable affect. Page refreshes are now sub 1 second. I believe the caching is what did it. The initial compile after restart is still over 2 minutes... but I think I can live with that. Thanks for all the suggestions! Andrew Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jetspeed Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 08/28/02 02:26 PMSubject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed? Please respond to Jetspeed Users List Just a general note, to the speed, the others have given hints on how to speed things up already. The mentioned speed in the beginning of this thread is definitely not normal. I currently develop into a local jetspeed server and none of my portlets had a response time above more than a few miliseconds (tomcat 4.1 increased the speed which already was good in 3.3.x) First of all. The first startup takes a little bit of time since JSPs have to be compiled but after that it should run almost as fast as a normal JSP page, Velocity is close to non existent in the loading times. The speed difference between custom JSP pages an jetspeed portlets/portals is neglegtable from what I saw on my development system. Kudos to the Velocity/Jetspeed/Turbine developers for that they did one hell of a job. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JetspeedLocalization_it.properties italian language
HiAttached is myItalian translation. If any fellow italians are reading this,please go thru it and give comments/corrections. Massimiliano Dessì Cagliari , Italy JetspeedLocalization_it.properties Description: Binary data -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: addMediaType() for portlet-entry?
Have you tried add the entry in .xreg by hand? I read the portlet how-to it says you should add it by hand. i don't know this info is correct or not. Peter Chi - Original Message - From: Bui Quoc Thai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jetspeed Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: addMediaType() for portlet-entry? Hi, I create a portlet-entry by using BasePortletEntry() BasePortletEntry bpe = new BasePortletEntry(); Then I add MediaType like this bpe.addMediaType(html); But there is an error java.lang.NullPointerException occured. So the portlet-entry can't be created in .xreg file. Can you help me to add Media Type for portlet entry? I'm using Tomcat4.0.3 and Jetspeed 1.4b1 Thank you very much! Thai -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room: C34 Tel: 524-7099 -- This mail sent through AIT WebMail : http://www.ait.ac.th/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Psml management
A few comments on the questions raised: - the current PSML system has indeed a known limitation when you try to centrally manage changes to user profiles without impacting their customized preferences. I submitted a proposal on an updated PSML structure to fix this issue about 1,5 year ago but we never came around to fix it as it implies extensive changes and may possibly break compatibility with current installations. Additionally, David has added recently a ref attribute in the PSML markup to tackle this issue differently. Using this approach it should be possible to leverage the layout while still keeping the customized attributes per user. Unfortunately, as far as I know it's still a work in progress. - about your requirements: if I understand correctly your need, you want to give the users the ability to customize their portlets but not to chose them or modify their layout. In Jetspeed terms, you want the user to be able to customize their Portlets but not their PortletSets. To do this the easiest way is simply to remove or hide the ability to customize them ! * copy the WEB-INF\templates\vm\controls\html\jetspeed-tab.vm to a new file (like jetspeed-tab-nocustomize.vm) and edit it to remove the customize links * change the WEB-INF\conf\controls.xreg registry to use your modified template instead of the default one. You have now hidden the feature, if you want to remove it completely : * modify the Customize action (org.apache.jetspeed.modules.actions.controls.Customize) to change the last test from: if (found!=null) to if ((found!=null)(!(found instanceof PortletSet))) recompile and redeploy and you're set. If you're really paranoid you can also remove the following action: - org.apache.jetspeed.modules.actions.portlets.CustomizeSet Remember that you're dealing with an open source system, if you don't like the rules set by the system, remove them ! We tried to make it easy for you to do so and it's much simpler than trying to add new rules or develp very generic ones. -Message d'origine- De : Matthew Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : jeudi 29 août 2002 10:21 À : Jetspeed Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: Psml management Good questions... strictly out-of the box role-based-psml also wouldn't work for us for the same reason, some users have more than one role. I have some custom logic that only looks at the particular roles which are associated with a layout type... in the database these roles aren't differentiated from other roles in any way. The question of users getting to chose their own role doesn't apply to us; in fact users can't even directly sign themselves up to jetspeed. Their jetspeed account only gets created in response to an external process which knows which role they are supposed to be. -matt --- Stefan Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Metthew, I was thinking about giving psml to users depending on the role as well, but I came to the conclusion that this doesn't make sense because: When people subscribe (i. e. create a new account) they get one specified role anyway. Or do you leave to visitors to choose which role they want to have ? But then, when roles mean security restrictions, your securtiy is gone, because people can choose their role freely. So I thought it would be better to have the assignment of psmls if the administrator gives roles to users. One more problem: What to do if the user has got multiple roles - which psml take then ? Do you know what the built-in role-based psml does in such a case ? Thanks for your answers and sorry for asking questions instead of helping you. Stefan Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 23:55 schrieben Sie: Here are my experiences with the jetspeed psml management system. I've had to change a couple things in ways which somebody else might find useful (please let me know if so!) Also, I am discovering that I may have a (hopefully reconcilable) philosophical problem with PSML. Before I begin, our portal (still in development stage) can be seen at http://nurse.ri.seawave.com:8180/portal/portal You can log in using testcrew/password. We don't plan on letting our users customize their portal pages at all in terms of the layout, presence or absence of certain portlets. However, we need to give them ways to customize attributes of their existing portlets. We also need to service more than one TYPE of user, each with a different pre-defined set of panes and portlets. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we can't use role-based PSML because that would prevent the use of individual settings any change to a portlet attribute would then be seen by ALL other users in the same role. Also, there is no single user from whom psml files for new
Re: addMediaType() for portlet-entry?
Hi, I have already added the entry by hand, It's okay. And I have also added by programming like that. It's also okay if I don't use that method, addMediaType (). An error is occured if using addMediaType(). Thai Quoting peterchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you tried add the entry in .xreg by hand? I read the portlet how-to it says you should add it by hand. i don't know this info is correct or not. Peter Chi - Original Message - From: Bui Quoc Thai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jetspeed Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: addMediaType() for portlet-entry? Hi, I create a portlet-entry by using BasePortletEntry() BasePortletEntry bpe = new BasePortletEntry(); Then I add MediaType like this bpe.addMediaType(html); But there is an error java.lang.NullPointerException occured. So the portlet-entry can't be created in .xreg file. Can you help me to add Media Type for portlet entry? I'm using Tomcat4.0.3 and Jetspeed 1.4b1 Thank you very much! Thai -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room: C34 Tel: 524-7099 -- This mail sent through AIT WebMail : http://www.ait.ac.th/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room: C34 Tel: 524-7099 -- This mail sent through AIT WebMail : http://www.ait.ac.th/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?
But when you refresh are you bringing any new content up? For my app, it is not worthwhile to refresh just to see the same old cached portlets. Josh Hone From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jetspeed Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jetspeed Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed? Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:33:24 -0230 Success! Just to follow up, I modified TurbineResources.properties and changed all logging from DEBUG to INFO. I also enabled some more caching as follows: module.cache=true services.VelocityService.file.resource.loader.cache = true This has had quite a noticable affect. Page refreshes are now sub 1 second. I believe the caching is what did it. The initial compile after restart is still over 2 minutes... but I think I can live with that. Thanks for all the suggestions! Andrew Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jetspeed Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 08/28/02 02:26 PMSubject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed? Please respond to Jetspeed Users List Just a general note, to the speed, the others have given hints on how to speed things up already. The mentioned speed in the beginning of this thread is definitely not normal. I currently develop into a local jetspeed server and none of my portlets had a response time above more than a few miliseconds (tomcat 4.1 increased the speed which already was good in 3.3.x) First of all. The first startup takes a little bit of time since JSPs have to be compiled but after that it should run almost as fast as a normal JSP page, Velocity is close to non existent in the loading times. The speed difference between custom JSP pages an jetspeed portlets/portals is neglegtable from what I saw on my development system. Kudos to the Velocity/Jetspeed/Turbine developers for that they did one hell of a job. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setting security-id for portlet sets.
I am thinking of implementing a portal such that a user will have no customize ability for a project's main portal page. In addition to this main page, a user pane will also be available (tab-pane) which will have full customization. I've been able to set up the security ref's and .psml docs to reflect this. The problem that I don't know how to fix is that the user has the ability to change the security-id for his user pane to a value that effectively removes his ability to customize or even view the pane. I can change the customizer-portletset-layout.vm template to restrict this behavior. Is this an unforeseen bug, or am I missing some configuration know-how? Is anybody else working on this? Thanks for any replies. Jim Locum ACS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Psml management
Matthew and Stefan, You have brought some good points to discussion table. You are right that it isn't very practical (or secure) for the users to assign their own roles. In most environments, it would be an administrative function to assign any additional user roles. Even if particular portal uses self-registration process, the admin would still be responsible for customizing user roles. I am currently working on enhancing the role-based-psml (see http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11735). The goal is to create initial user profile (psml) based on the roles the user is a member of. On first login, the profiler will aggregate profiles from each role to create a single profile. There will also be a feature for the user to reset their profile to default. This, I believe, may address the issue with what happens when role profile gets updated - the reset will recreate the user profile and bring in any new content (customizations will be lost, of course). I have implemented the basic process. One remaining feature is the ability to handle variety of different layouts. For example, one role profile may be tab based, another may consist of a single control, and yet another may be a single menu control. How to combine these to create a meaningful profile? My thought is to stack all tab based profiles and put other types of profiles in their own tabs. If this is something that may fit into your requirements, feel free to provide any comments or suggestions (please use Bugzilla to post any). Thanks! Best regards, Mark C. Orciuch Next Generation Solutions, Ltd. e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.ngsltd.com -Original Message- From: Matthew Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:21 AM To: Jetspeed Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Psml management Good questions... strictly out-of the box role-based-psml also wouldn't work for us for the same reason, some users have more than one role. I have some custom logic that only looks at the particular roles which are associated with a layout type... in the database these roles aren't differentiated from other roles in any way. The question of users getting to chose their own role doesn't apply to us; in fact users can't even directly sign themselves up to jetspeed. Their jetspeed account only gets created in response to an external process which knows which role they are supposed to be. -matt --- Stefan Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Metthew, I was thinking about giving psml to users depending on the role as well, but I came to the conclusion that this doesn't make sense because: When people subscribe (i. e. create a new account) they get one specified role anyway. Or do you leave to visitors to choose which role they want to have ? But then, when roles mean security restrictions, your securtiy is gone, because people can choose their role freely. So I thought it would be better to have the assignment of psmls if the administrator gives roles to users. One more problem: What to do if the user has got multiple roles - which psml take then ? Do you know what the built-in role-based psml does in such a case ? Thanks for your answers and sorry for asking questions instead of helping you. Stefan Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 23:55 schrieben Sie: Here are my experiences with the jetspeed psml management system. I've had to change a couple things in ways which somebody else might find useful (please let me know if so!) Also, I am discovering that I may have a (hopefully reconcilable) philosophical problem with PSML. Before I begin, our portal (still in development stage) can be seen at http://nurse.ri.seawave.com:8180/portal/portal You can log in using testcrew/password. We don't plan on letting our users customize their portal pages at all in terms of the layout, presence or absence of certain portlets. However, we need to give them ways to customize attributes of their existing portlets. We also need to service more than one TYPE of user, each with a different pre-defined set of panes and portlets. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we can't use role-based PSML because that would prevent the use of individual settings any change to a portlet attribute would then be seen by ALL other users in the same role. Also, there is no single user from whom psml files for new users could be copied, because that wouldn't allow for different layouts for different types of users. So I changed JetspeedSecurity to point to my own UserManagement class, and overrode the addDefaultPSML() method to make a copy of the psml associated with the user's role rather than the psml of another user (like turbine). Not a huge deal, but now I am arriving at what seems to be a bigger problem: Although
RE: Psml management
Yes, that sounds really promising, it would have circumvented our need to override the createDefaultPsml() method with Seawave-specific logic. I don't yet have any specific suggestions as to how to work the integration of multiple psml files sounds like a really interesting problem seems like it could be applied to all sorts of psml related issues! But, our more significant problem at this point is the coupling of portet settings with the psml, which wouldn't be solved by the enhanced role-based psml. I'm not sure that it suffice to provide a link that said something to the effect of, Click here to upgrade your portal to the newest version... warning, all your settings will be lost! It would be much better to store the parameters/settings outside of psml. Haven't really thought this through, but if I could decouple user settings from the psml files in a way that would be backwards-compatible, would this system have a chance of making it into a future jetspeed release as a replacement for psml-based settings management? -Matthew Forsyth seawave.com --- Mark Orciuch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew and Stefan, You have brought some good points to discussion table. You are right that it isn't very practical (or secure) for the users to assign their own roles. In most environments, it would be an administrative function to assign any additional user roles. Even if particular portal uses self-registration process, the admin would still be responsible for customizing user roles. I am currently working on enhancing the role-based-psml (see http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11735). The goal is to create initial user profile (psml) based on the roles the user is a member of. On first login, the profiler will aggregate profiles from each role to create a single profile. There will also be a feature for the user to reset their profile to default. This, I believe, may address the issue with what happens when role profile gets updated - the reset will recreate the user profile and bring in any new content (customizations will be lost, of course). I have implemented the basic process. One remaining feature is the ability to handle variety of different layouts. For example, one role profile may be tab based, another may consist of a single control, and yet another may be a single menu control. How to combine these to create a meaningful profile? My thought is to stack all tab based profiles and put other types of profiles in their own tabs. If this is something that may fit into your requirements, feel free to provide any comments or suggestions (please use Bugzilla to post any). Thanks! Best regards, Mark C. Orciuch Next Generation Solutions, Ltd. e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.ngsltd.com -Original Message- From: Matthew Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:21 AM To: Jetspeed Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Psml management Good questions... strictly out-of the box role-based-psml also wouldn't work for us for the same reason, some users have more than one role. I have some custom logic that only looks at the particular roles which are associated with a layout type... in the database these roles aren't differentiated from other roles in any way. The question of users getting to chose their own role doesn't apply to us; in fact users can't even directly sign themselves up to jetspeed. Their jetspeed account only gets created in response to an external process which knows which role they are supposed to be. -matt --- Stefan Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Metthew, I was thinking about giving psml to users depending on the role as well, but I came to the conclusion that this doesn't make sense because: When people subscribe (i. e. create a new account) they get one specified role anyway. Or do you leave to visitors to choose which role they want to have ? But then, when roles mean security restrictions, your securtiy is gone, because people can choose their role freely. So I thought it would be better to have the assignment of psmls if the administrator gives roles to users. One more problem: What to do if the user has got multiple roles - which psml take then ? Do you know what the built-in role-based psml does in such a case ? Thanks for your answers and sorry for asking questions instead of helping you. Stefan Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 23:55 schrieben Sie: Here are my experiences with the jetspeed psml management system. I've had to change a couple things in ways which somebody else might find useful (please let me know if so!) Also, I am discovering that I may have a (hopefully reconcilable) philosophical problem with PSML. Before I begin, our portal (still in
Running applications in a portlet
Hi I've been searching the archives but can't seem to find an answer. I have some Java code that, using the JACOB com bridge, can start an MS-Outlook instance. Now I would like to build a portlet, so I can display Outlook for a user over the net. Is this possible using Jetspeed? I've seen Oracle developing this kind of portlet for the Oracle Portal. Thanks -Steen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Running applications in a portlet
Jetspeed only deals with the actual portal infrastructure itself. The distribution provides several example portlets that allow you to develop many different kinds of portlets from static web pages, JSPs, Velocity, etc. If you can write your Outlook interface into a JSP page--it is straight forward to implement this into your portal using the JSP portlet template. I would advise using the templates to begin with rather than using the Portlet API directly unless you have a real need to extend the way the Outlook interface interacts with the portal. An aside: This Jacob project looks cool. I went to their page, but I am not sure where to begin. I have an IT Request form written in ASP that I am dying to get ported over to Java. Currently the form uses cdo to create a new Outlook task for the IT Help Desk folks. Do you have any code you might be able to share with me to help me with this? Best regards, Aaron -Original Message- From: Steen Bjerre Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Running applications in a portlet Hi I've been searching the archives but can't seem to find an answer. I have some Java code that, using the JACOB com bridge, can start an MS-Outlook instance. Now I would like to build a portlet, so I can display Outlook for a user over the net. Is this possible using Jetspeed? I've seen Oracle developing this kind of portlet for the Oracle Portal. Thanks -Steen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?
A little late getting in on the topic, but if you are using Linux or Unix add the -server option (first one). You should see faster execution. On Wednesday 28 August 2002 12:29 pm, you wrote: I'm no expert but try the following: -- change all logging levels in the ~/WEB-INF/conf/*.properties files to be INFO instead of DEBUG -- give Tomcat a lot of memory via the CATALINA_OPTIONS. e.g. -Xmx256m and -Xms128m -- look for velocity caching options in TurbineResources.properties and turn it on Please let us know if you find anything else that helps. thanks, Mike --- Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, I'm a newbie too. Welcome. Something I noticed is that some of the example portlets will take a while when you refresh the page (especially if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are having problems). Have you tried making your new portlet the only one on your current pane? That would rule out the effect of other portlets interfering with response time. If that does it, then you can slowly add portlets to identify the problem causer... Woody [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM Hi, I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its functionality etc. My only concern about using it in production is with response time. A user portal page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with just a 'hello world' portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have some fairly intensive servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds. (800MHz, NT, 256Mb, JRun servlet engine.) My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box. cachedOnName=true cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets. Are my response times the norm or am I missing something? Would using external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things (I've tried SQL server and Sybase with no luck).? Thanks! Andrew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installation issue
I am installing jetspeed and I am having an issue I am using: Tomcat - Tomcat-4.0.1 Java SDK - build 1.3.1_02-b02 jetspeed - 1.3a2 I go to http://localhost:8080/jetspeed/index.jsp with no problem as soon as I login with turbine turbine I get the following exception. Horrible Exception: java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.apache.turbine.om.security.peer.TurbineUserPeer.(TurbineUserPeer.java:99) at org.apache.turbine.services.security.db.DBUserManager.retrieve(DBUserManager.java:158) at org.apache.turbine.services.security.db.DBUserManager.retrieve(DBUserManager.java:246) at org.apache.turbine.services.security.BaseSecurityService.getAuthenticatedUser(BaseSecurityService.java:312) at org.apache.turbine.services.security.TurbineSecurity.getAuthenticatedUser(TurbineSecurity.java:199) at org.apache.turbine.modules.actions.LoginUser.doPerform(LoginUser.java:111) at org.apache.turbine.modules.Action.perform(Action.java:87) at org.apache.turbine.modules.ActionLoader.exec(ActionLoader.java:122) at org.apache.jetspeed.modules.actions.JLoginUser.doPerform(JLoginUser.java:161) at org.apache.turbine.modules.Action.perform(Action.java:87) at org.apache.turbine.modules.ActionLoader.exec(ActionLoader.java:122) at org.apache.turbine.Turbine.doGet(Turbine.java:511) at org.apache.turbine.Turbine.doPost(Turbine.java:655) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:760) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:243) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:201) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(StandardContext.java:2344) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:164) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.invoke(ErrorDispatcherValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve.invoke(AccessLogValve.java:462) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:163) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.connector.http.HttpProcessor.process(HttpProcessor.java:1011) at org.apache.catalina.connector.http.HttpProcessor.run(HttpProcessor.java:1106) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation issue
I have more information to give. I turned on logging and more information is available. //** java.lang.InstantiationException: Unknown JDBC driver: org.postgresql.Driver: Check your configuration file //* The configuration file reads as follows database.default.driver=org.postgresql.Driver database.default.url=jdbc:postgresql://127.0.0.1/mydatabase database.default.username=user database.default.password=password and database.adaptor=PostgreSQL database.adaptor.DBHypersonicSQL=org.postgresql.Driver I also wrote a class to connect to the database and make sure it was accepting connections and data is retrieved successfully and it works fine My classpath when I start tomcat is as follows Using CLASSPATH: /usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB -INF/lib/xerces_1_3_1.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspee d/WEB-INF/lib/xalan-2.0.1.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jet speed/WEB-INF/lib/village-1.5.3-dev.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/w ebapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/velocity-1.2-dev.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/c atalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/uddi4j.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/ca talina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/turbine-2.2b1-20011124.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_ Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/soap.jar: IT IS THERE!! /usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/postgresql.jar: /usr/JBoss-2.4.4_ Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/mail.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tom cat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/log4j-1.1.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_T omcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/jetspeed-1.3a2-release.jar:/us r/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/jdbc-se2.0.jar: /usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/hsql.jar:/us r/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/ecs-1.4.1.jar:/ usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/castor-0.9.3. jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/lib/activati on.jar:/home/jacksosw:/home/spherelogic/devel/jacksosw/spherelogic:/usr/java/jdk 1.3.1_02/lib/tools.jar:/usr/JBoss-2.4.4_Tomcat-4.0.1/catalina/bin/bootstrap.jar: /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_02/lib/tools.jar I'm at a loss :-( Thanks in advance On Thursday 29 August 2002 10:59 pm, you wrote: I am installing jetspeed and I am having an issue I am using: Tomcat - Tomcat-4.0.1 Java SDK - build 1.3.1_02-b02 jetspeed - 1.3a2 I go to http://localhost:8080/jetspeed/index.jsp with no problem as soon as I login with turbine turbine I get the following exception. Horrible Exception: java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.apache.turbine.om.security.peer.TurbineUserPeer.(TurbineUserPeer.java:9 9) at org.apache.turbine.services.security.db.DBUserManager.retrieve(DBUserManage r.java:158) at org.apache.turbine.services.security.db.DBUserManager.retrieve(DBUserManage r.java:246) at org.apache.turbine.services.security.BaseSecurityService.getAuthenticatedUs er(BaseSecurityService.java:312) at org.apache.turbine.services.security.TurbineSecurity.getAuthenticatedUser(T urbineSecurity.java:199) at org.apache.turbine.modules.actions.LoginUser.doPerform(LoginUser.java:111) at org.apache.turbine.modules.Action.perform(Action.java:87) at org.apache.turbine.modules.ActionLoader.exec(ActionLoader.java:122) at org.apache.jetspeed.modules.actions.JLoginUser.doPerform(JLoginUser.java:16 1) at org.apache.turbine.modules.Action.perform(Action.java:87) at org.apache.turbine.modules.ActionLoader.exec(ActionLoader.java:122) at org.apache.turbine.Turbine.doGet(Turbine.java:511) at org.apache.turbine.Turbine.doPost(Turbine.java:655) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:760) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Applicatio nFilterChain.java:247) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterC hain.java:193) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.j ava:243) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java: 566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.j ava:201) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java: 566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(StandardContext.java:2344) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:16 4) at
