Re: Difference between Struts and Jetspeed

2003-06-25 Thread Alex McLintock
At 18:58 25/06/03 +0530, you wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I wanted to know more inside information between 
Struts and Jetspeed.
According to my understanding both of them have lots in common such as
1. Following the MVC principle,
2. Ability to write the UI in different technology,
3. Ability to use layouts,
4. Ability to use actions, etc.,
1)
OK, MVC is over rated :-)
With Jetspeed you are not really writing one web app - you are writing 
dozens! Each portlet could be considered a mini web application.
I'd say that you could implement each individual portlet with its own MVC 
sub-structure.
Have a look at the Portlet API to understand more about that.

2) UI in different technology. H. See the portlet API. It is kind of 
Java specific, but so long as your servlet complies
with the API you should be able to write your portlets in Velocity, or 
Struts, or whatever.

3) What layouts? Jetspeed comes with a few layouts of its own - and this is 
ok. Struts comes with no layouts that
I know of.

4) Actions: well we are starting to get silly. We are comparing apples 
to oranges here. Not sure what you mean by an action
in Jetspeed terms.

Jetspeed uses Turbine - which performs a similar set of things that Struts 
does.

Perhaps you are trying to compare Turbine and Struts?

(Incidently - you don't have to write your portlets with Turbine even 
though Jetspeed was written using it).

You can download Jetspeed and quite quickly get a working web application 
framework. You can;t do that with Struts - even with
Ted Husted's cool Struts skeletons.

Alex



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RSS cache for other portals?

2002-10-08 Thread Alex McLintock

Jetspeed has within it a useful mechanism for fetching and caching RSS files.

I've noticed that this might be useful for other applications such as a 
portal application written with Cocoon. (No don't laugh why aren't they 
using Jetspeed you cry).

Anyway if we assume that people have need of rss files and don't want to 
implement their own caching mechanism is it possible to use Jetspeed to 
serve these RSS files which it caches?

Presumably the official way is to have jetspeed running in the same JVM 
as your application and use the java API for retrieving rss files from the 
cache, but that isn't always possible. It would be easier if Jetspeed could 
serve the rss files in the cache

Any suggestions?

Alex




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Re: How to start

2002-09-26 Thread Alex McLintock


   What I can use as a starting point to make my jetspeed portal ?
   The problem is the sample who comes with jetspeed has many features
so I am felling lost.


Just take one of the portlets most close to what you want and start to 
modify that one.

Eg the Velocity portlet if you are a velocity programmer, the JSP portlet 
if you prefer JSPs. (There is one isn't there).

You can ignore all the other portlet types you don't need.

Alex



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Re: why do not the authors of Jetspeed write the detail document about Jetspeed?

2002-06-28 Thread Alex McLintock

Maybe it is because software engineers have such bad command of the English 
language?

Alex


At 09:31 28/06/02, you wrote:
Why?so lack of documents:)

does it take much time?the author have no time? should we pay the money for
this?

OpenSource software!too cheap to get,but too hard to learn.






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RE: Error Occured - Configuring Jetspeed with JSP

2002-06-24 Thread Alex McLintock

At 13:14 24/06/02, John Trollinger wrote:
JSP is very poorly supported in jetspeed... it seems like they are
trying to make jetspeed an extension to velocity instead of making a
portal server.


I think it would be fairer to say that many of the Jetspeed developers 
don't like JSP and therefore don't develop portlets with it, and therefore 
JSP support has fallen behind Velocity.


Alex




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Jetspeed Sites ?

2002-06-18 Thread Alex McLintock


Is there a list of live sites which use Jetspeed. There is the small list 
on the jetspeed
website but that seems to be a bit out of date and quite small.

Thanks

Alex




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