RE: New to this group please help me

[Luta, Raphael (VUN)]

No matter what portal or web development tool you're using, you should
*always* first spend some time on the specification of your portal.

You should not even start looking at the toys before answering questions
like (randomly sorted) :

* How many users ?
* Is there already an existing authentication database for these
  users, do I want to use it ?
* How many languages ?
* How many media types do I want to support ?
* How many and which segments/target groups do I have to serve ?
* What content do I want to publish ? How can I get access to 
  this content (disk, db, syndication, etc...) ? Who is going
  to update the site content and with what editorial process ?
* What applications do I need to connect to ? Are they already
  using a single authentication db ? How do I bridge to these
  apps (servlet, http, SOAP, CORBA, etc...) ?
* For each user target group, what application/content do they need
  to access ? can they personnalize their portal view ? what access
  rights should they have ?
* What will be your portal navigation ? Do you plan to set up
  different thematic portal views or a single integrated workspace ?

Once you have written down your answers on these points, you should
have a much better view on :
- what kind of software tools and features you'll need.
- what kind of skills you'll require.
- an estimate of the amount of work required to setup your portal.
- what budget you'll need to complete your portal transition.
- where to start :)

Setting up and running a portal is typically a lot of work, mainly
in terms of technical integration, process engineering and project
management.
Open source software does not magically cancel these, just
ensure that your budget can be spent of these items rather than
being split between software licenses and integration.

Jumping directly from a static website to a portal-driven system
without any defined specification and expected benefits is a recipe
for frustration, lost time, lost money and a very slow website...

> -Message d'origine-
> De : Sangam Dash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Envoyé : mardi 19 novembre 2002 19:38
> À : Jetspeed Users List
> Objet : New to this group please help me
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am a new user just trying to use Jetspeed to develop a portal for my
> company.
> We already have a website, which needs to be changed to a 
> portal so that we
> can have different portlets for our clients and partners.
> I dont know how to start out with.
> Should i copy the existing html files in some directory or 
> should i have to
> convert every html files to reflect portal framework.
> I was thinking to copy the whole website folder to some place 
> in tomcat or
> jetspeed folder and then use the portlet development framework to add
> portlets to my portal.
> I am really confused to start out with it.
> Please help me out.
> Thanks
> sangam dash
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Sean Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:27 AM
> Subject: RE: Jetspeed and OpenLDAP
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Heine, Christian (Extern) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:50 AM
> > > To: 'Jetspeed Users List'
> > > Subject: Jetspeed and OpenLDAP
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > perhaps my question looks like realy similar, but i've searched
> > > the mailing
> > > list and dosn't found any usefull solution.
> > >
> > > I must implements for my organisation a Jetspeed Portal. The
> > > implementation
> > > of Jetspeed works fine (V1.4.1). Now i should combine 
> Jetspeed with a
> > > LDAP-Server, prefered OpenLDAP,
> > > my question is how can i combine Jetspeed with OpenLDAP?
> > >
> > > I know that someone have solved that problem, but i 
> haven't found any
> > > usefull HowTo or examples to do it. It is realy importand for me
> > > to know how
> > > i could realize that, thx for any help.
> > >
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > There are several of us working on cleaning up the LDAP 
> implementation in
> > Jetspeed cvs.
> > I just received a patch and documentation from Suhail for 
> configuration
> > Jetspeed LDAP Security Service with OpenLDAP.
> > Hope to get it reviewed and checked in over the next day or two.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
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Re: New to this group please help me

[Sangam Dash]

Thanks a lot Steve.
All the best for your job search.
i have few questions too, please take your own time to answer these
questions.
what i did was copied the jetspeed folder under webapps with a different
name say mywebsite.
then i changed the logo.gif file
then where shud i put all my html files?
what exactly shud i change in the psml files?
please help me out whenever u have time.
thanks a lot
sangam dash
- Original Message -
From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: New to this group please help me


> Depending on the corporate website, this is difficult to answer in one
> email - especially since your strategy greatly agrees on the current
> layout. I have converted a couple of websites to the Jetspeed
> framework. Its been a few months, but I do not believe Jetspeed
> has changed in that time to affect my procedure.
>
> The first thing I usually do is modify the page template to match the
> existing layout of the company site. This helps you to imagine what
> the site is going to look like.
>
> Next, create the psml's for the portlets. For each page from your
> original website, create a HTMLportlet.
>
> Now, use Jetspeed's customization functions to setup the menus and
> pages. Does the layout use the traditional
> layout of a menu across the top of the page to different "areas", then
> a different menu down the left depending on the area entered?
> If so, I would setup a tab pane where each selection is your "area"
> menu for the top of the page. Under each tab, add another tab pane
> which has your left menu choices for a given area.  Finally, to each
> of the second tabs, add a single html portlet which contains the page
> you want to display. When all is done, change each of the 2nd-level
> tabs into a menu tab. can be tricky because there is - or there was -
> a bug where once you added a portlet to a 2nd-level tab, you could
> not modify any tabs that followed it.
>
> If you have any questions, ask and I will help as best I can. I am quite
> busy these days looking for a job, so I will do my best to help
> when I can.
>
> Steve Belt
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sangam Dash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:38 PM
> Subject: New to this group please help me
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I am a new user just trying to use Jetspeed to develop a portal for my
> > company.
> > We already have a website, which needs to be changed to a portal so that
> we
> > can have different portlets for our clients and partners.
> > I dont know how to start out with.
> > Should i copy the existing html files in some directory or should i have
> to
> > convert every html files to reflect portal framework.
> > I was thinking to copy the whole website folder to some place in tomcat
or
> > jetspeed folder and then use the portlet development framework to add
> > portlets to my portal.
> > I am really confused to start out with it.
> > Please help me out.
> > Thanks
> > sangam dash
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Sean Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:27 AM
> > Subject: RE: Jetspeed and OpenLDAP
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Heine, Christian (Extern) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:50 AM
> > > > To: 'Jetspeed Users List'
> > > > Subject: Jetspeed and OpenLDAP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > perhaps my question looks like realy similar, but i've searched
> > > > the mailing
> > > > list and dosn't found any usefull solution.
> > > >
> > > > I must implements for my organisation a Jetspeed Portal. The
> > > > implementation
> > > > of Jetspeed works fine (V1.4.1). Now i should combine Jetspeed with
a
> > > > LDAP-Server, prefered OpenLDAP,
> > > > my question is how can i combine Jetspeed with OpenLDAP?
> > > >
> > > > I know that someone have solved that problem, but i haven't found
any
> > > > usefull HowTo or examples to do it. It is realy importand for me
> > > > to know how
> > > > i could realize that, thx for any help.
> > > >
> >

Re: New to this group please help me

[Steve]

Depending on the corporate website, this is difficult to answer in one
email - especially since your strategy greatly agrees on the current
layout. I have converted a couple of websites to the Jetspeed
framework. Its been a few months, but I do not believe Jetspeed
has changed in that time to affect my procedure.

The first thing I usually do is modify the page template to match the
existing layout of the company site. This helps you to imagine what
the site is going to look like.

Next, create the psml's for the portlets. For each page from your
original website, create a HTMLportlet.

Now, use Jetspeed's customization functions to setup the menus and
pages. Does the layout use the traditional
layout of a menu across the top of the page to different "areas", then
a different menu down the left depending on the area entered?
If so, I would setup a tab pane where each selection is your "area"
menu for the top of the page. Under each tab, add another tab pane
which has your left menu choices for a given area.  Finally, to each
of the second tabs, add a single html portlet which contains the page
you want to display. When all is done, change each of the 2nd-level
tabs into a menu tab. can be tricky because there is - or there was -
a bug where once you added a portlet to a 2nd-level tab, you could
not modify any tabs that followed it.

If you have any questions, ask and I will help as best I can. I am quite
busy these days looking for a job, so I will do my best to help
when I can.

Steve Belt

- Original Message -
From: "Sangam Dash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: New to this group please help me


> Hi
>
> I am a new user just trying to use Jetspeed to develop a portal for my
> company.
> We already have a website, which needs to be changed to a portal so that
we
> can have different portlets for our clients and partners.
> I dont know how to start out with.
> Should i copy the existing html files in some directory or should i have
to
> convert every html files to reflect portal framework.
> I was thinking to copy the whole website folder to some place in tomcat or
> jetspeed folder and then use the portlet development framework to add
> portlets to my portal.
> I am really confused to start out with it.
> Please help me out.
> Thanks
> sangam dash
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Sean Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:27 AM
> Subject: RE: Jetspeed and OpenLDAP
>
>
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Heine, Christian (Extern) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:50 AM
> > > To: 'Jetspeed Users List'
> > > Subject: Jetspeed and OpenLDAP
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > perhaps my question looks like realy similar, but i've searched
> > > the mailing
> > > list and dosn't found any usefull solution.
> > >
> > > I must implements for my organisation a Jetspeed Portal. The
> > > implementation
> > > of Jetspeed works fine (V1.4.1). Now i should combine Jetspeed with a
> > > LDAP-Server, prefered OpenLDAP,
> > > my question is how can i combine Jetspeed with OpenLDAP?
> > >
> > > I know that someone have solved that problem, but i haven't found any
> > > usefull HowTo or examples to do it. It is realy importand for me
> > > to know how
> > > i could realize that, thx for any help.
> > >
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > There are several of us working on cleaning up the LDAP implementation
in
> > Jetspeed cvs.
> > I just received a patch and documentation from Suhail for configuration
> > Jetspeed LDAP Security Service with OpenLDAP.
> > Hope to get it reviewed and checked in over the next day or two.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
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New to this group please help me

[Sangam Dash]

Hi

I am a new user just trying to use Jetspeed to develop a portal for my
company.
We already have a website, which needs to be changed to a portal so that we
can have different portlets for our clients and partners.
I dont know how to start out with.
Should i copy the existing html files in some directory or should i have to
convert every html files to reflect portal framework.
I was thinking to copy the whole website folder to some place in tomcat or
jetspeed folder and then use the portlet development framework to add
portlets to my portal.
I am really confused to start out with it.
Please help me out.
Thanks
sangam dash

- Original Message -
From: "David Sean Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: Jetspeed and OpenLDAP


>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Heine, Christian (Extern) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:50 AM
> > To: 'Jetspeed Users List'
> > Subject: Jetspeed and OpenLDAP
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > perhaps my question looks like realy similar, but i've searched
> > the mailing
> > list and dosn't found any usefull solution.
> >
> > I must implements for my organisation a Jetspeed Portal. The
> > implementation
> > of Jetspeed works fine (V1.4.1). Now i should combine Jetspeed with a
> > LDAP-Server, prefered OpenLDAP,
> > my question is how can i combine Jetspeed with OpenLDAP?
> >
> > I know that someone have solved that problem, but i haven't found any
> > usefull HowTo or examples to do it. It is realy importand for me
> > to know how
> > i could realize that, thx for any help.
> >
> Hi Christian,
>
> There are several of us working on cleaning up the LDAP implementation in
> Jetspeed cvs.
> I just received a patch and documentation from Suhail for configuration
> Jetspeed LDAP Security Service with OpenLDAP.
> Hope to get it reviewed and checked in over the next day or two.
>
> David
>
>
>
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