singing without vibrato

2003-09-03 Thread Judith R Cohen
hi, since vocal cords vibrate, it's kind of impossible to sing without
vibrato; what is usually meant by that is singing without the wide
vibrato that characterizes so much western art music performance
practice. Different cultures and different time periods have various
approaches to degree and type of vocal vibrato, but singing early music,
of course, poses the probably never-to-be-solved problem of figuring out
what they actually sounded like. But in any case, it's unlikely to have
been either, say, Bel Canto or Peking OPera cheers, Judith

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Re: singing without vibrato

2003-09-03 Thread Sam Weiss
At 07:44 AM 9/3/03, Judith R Cohen wrote:
hi, since vocal cords vibrate, it's kind of impossible to sing without
vibrato; what is usually meant by that is singing without the wide
vibrato...
Not so.  Vibrato is only tangentially related to vibration.  Of course, 
all sound production entails vibration, but the predominant 
characteristic of vibrato -- whether wide or narrow -- is the slight 
=waver=  or =variation= in pitch (along with subtle modulations of volume 
and tone).  It is very possible to sing without vibrato.

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Re: singing without vibrato

2003-09-03 Thread TTova
starting long held notes with the purity of no vibrato is exacting, 
demanding but also exhilarating.
singing with less  vibrato is something I have tried to master more and 
more these days..
I find the sound more dangerous and  therefore more exciting.
fascinating comments everyone



On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Sam Weiss wrote:

Not so.  Vibrato is only tangentially related to vibration.  Of 
course, all sound production entails vibration, but the predominant 
characteristic of vibrato -- whether wide or narrow -- is the slight 
=waver=  or =variation= in pitch (along with subtle modulations of 
volume and tone).  It is very possible to sing without vibrato.

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Singing without vibrato

2003-09-02 Thread Fred Blumenthal




Thank you to Cantor Sam Weiss for his response on singing without vibrato.
This isn't the first time he's answered questions or concerns that I've
brought up.

The choral director in my experience who stressed singing without vibrato
was Gregg Smith - a famous choral director, but one of several I've
experienced who weren't singers.  The motivations were A) blend, and B)
intonation.  Smith had - and I'm sure still has - a careful ear for
intonation, but he would tell those singing sharp to darken the tone to
correct it, and those singing flat to smile in order to brighten the tone
to correct it.  I've long felt that this was like taking one medicine for a
variety of ills, and that intonation problems could have more than just two
origins.  I suppose to Mr. Smith hearing singing with vibrato was like
seeing a variety of colors when one wished to see just one.

And in my training in early music it was at first stressed that singing
should be done with no vibrato, but then later that was deemed to be an
extreme position, and some vibrato was allowed, particularly in the music
of Claudio Monteverdi.  As Adrianne Greenbaum and I have been discussing
off-list, there's an explanation that vibrato has roots in embellishment,
so that, at the turn of the Renaissance and Baroque periods, Monteverdi
would be appropriate as a beginning point for vibrato.

To tie it all together: at about the time I knew Mr. Smith, 35 years ago,
he was recording Gabrieli's music in St. Mark's.

Fred Blumenthal
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